Ephesians 2:8. Jesus IS God NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.
@alanparedes2427 Жыл бұрын
I came to the father through Don Holly
@Sunbear415 Жыл бұрын
@@alanparedes2427 that’s hilarious. Try that in your afterlife.
@alanparedes2427 Жыл бұрын
@@Sunbear415 What afterlife halfwit? The Mormon one or the Catholic one or the JW one or the Muslim one, or the Viking one? Or the 1000s of different heavens depending on what religion you are. Maybe I'll just go to the next level and keep improving with each lifetime?
@CrackedCandy Жыл бұрын
No LDS person would disagree with that. Jesus is the way the truth the life, he is the only way home, his sacrifice, coupled with the grace and compassion of God are how we get home. He does ask us to do some things, like be kind, keep his commandments, etc, but those are not the mechanism to salvation. Jesus is the way. Haven't watched the video yet.
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
@DSDftw!!! Not true Joseph said you had to go through him to get into heaven that is how blasphemous and how much arrogance he had.
@Jack-rm9zz Жыл бұрын
Kevin, I appreciate what your trying to do and how you're doing it but, if you are going to do something like this you have to be way more prepared than you appeared to be. You can't bring up "I heard ... from some guy" as a start to a question. You should have gone directly to the book of Mormon, found what it says and how it differs from Christianity, and then asked them to explain where their evidence is for the difference. You are on to something good, you just need to be more prepared.
@catherinehawkins3302 Жыл бұрын
Satan will always try to distroy followers of jesus christ. Keep praying lds. You are christians.
@kylecityy Жыл бұрын
@@catherinehawkins3302 how can you get mad for a christian telling a fellow christian that he should represent your faith(lds) better when interviewing with them.
@johnkauffman1191 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNihnsR838W3g5s.html I have this video would’ve been a good one
@curtisbemis6640 Жыл бұрын
Mormon lds there still people and all we can do is pray for them and hope God shows them the true path to eternal salvation .
@alanparedes2427 Жыл бұрын
Who cares? Let um fry!
@Landonpfilemusic Жыл бұрын
@@alanparedes2427yeah let us fry! I’m sure you’re right about us going to hell:) You sound like such a loving Christian!
@larry2524 Жыл бұрын
Pray for the Christians too and pray that God show them too.
@alanparedes2427 Жыл бұрын
@@Landonpfilemusic You know you're going to hell? Repent now before it's too late.
@lildurk3004 Жыл бұрын
They sure are, thats all we can do. We cant force them to be baptized. Neither they can force us.
@TheAnimeBlaze Жыл бұрын
My problem with the idea the Jews went to the americas is that there is no evidence that natives knew who Jesus was
@History_MadeMe_Catholic Жыл бұрын
Only the legitimate Christian missionaries such as David Brainerd of the 1700s. . He would fall off of his horse in the snow, with such a burden to pray while on his way to the natives.. He died young due to bleeding of the throat.. He, personally, would agonize in prayer for multiple hours.
@Moose46316 Жыл бұрын
There is evidence of Jesus coming here
@davidfitnesstech Жыл бұрын
NICE CONVO. Both the Christian and Mormon arguments seem to be just different sides of the same delusional coin.
@Sportliveonline Жыл бұрын
How do you know what they wrote down in the first place is true ??
@mytahiti100411 ай бұрын
The Gospel of John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, my doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or weather I speak of myself. My interpretation is if you try to follow the things Jesus taught you will feel a peace come over you that you are doing the right thing. It's not always the easy thing to do the right things, and maybe at times it will be difficult. Much like his apostles experienced. However you will be rewarded and you will feel God's love through the spirit. Read the scriptures so you know his will. You can't live his Gospel if you don't know what it is. Pray always, give thanks, and ask for help in all areas of your life. Here is what I do frequently, in the KZfaq search bar, "I'm Trying to Be Like Jesus - Emily Brown - Music Video." I have been trying to memorize the lyrics of this song. ...."Love on another as Jesus loves you. Try to show kindness in all that you do. Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought, For these are the things Jesus taught. Try listening to that once a day for week straight. Just to see if it helps. Love you Brother.
@mikellasa Жыл бұрын
It's more likely that you both are wrong. Christianity (non-LDS) makes just as many absurd claims as does Mormonism.
@LitoLochoss Жыл бұрын
No such thing as an LDS Christian if you aline that you can become a god you already away from True Christianity you are simple mormon
@nametheunknown_ Жыл бұрын
Hey, Kevin! Just wanted to say I love what you're doing. Your channel mission reminds me of my own. Keep it up!
@Icanonlyimagn789111 ай бұрын
Actually, the Book of Abraham is not found with in the Book of Mormon, but is part of The Pearl of Great Price. So just right there the misinformation whether on purpose or accident reveals the rest of your comment to not be trusted. I love The Book of Mormon, another Testament of Jesus Christ. (Another Witness) It backs up all the Biblical prophets testimonies of the literal coming of Jesus Christ, The Beloved Son of God. It changes my intentions to be in line with Christ and His teachings. It causes a desire within me to want to be virtuous, kind, patient, forgiving… to see others through Heaven’s eyes. It makes me want to seek Christ and be more like Him. I read it hand in hand with The Holy Bible. I’m so thankful for the peace and hope it brings into my life. I cannot imagine my life without it now. 💕☀️
@garychadwick3387 Жыл бұрын
Converts = Big money!! To have eternal families in Mormonism, you have to pay 10% of you income. God really needs money!
@gregisaacs7091 Жыл бұрын
2 Corinthians 11:4 (NET) For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus different from the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the one you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it well enough! The LDS have the wrong gospel, it is another works based salvation. In Christianity Christ paid it ALL. They have the wrong Father. In LDS God was once a man. The Bible says otherwise. In LDS Jesus was not God before He came to earth but He achieved godhood. The Bible says otherwise, Jesus is God and always was God. Jesus declared marriage was from the beginning between one man and one woman (Mt19) yet the Mormons own book taught polygamy was essential to achieve godhood, which brings us to the last heresy, there are multiple Gods. They differ exponentially, they are not the same So the LDS have the wrong Gospel the wrong Father and the wrong Son. They also have the false prophet (prophecies that had not come to pass i.e. the will be a temple mount built in a specific location in Missouri within THIS generation, 160+ years ago) and multiple books.
@VAATAUSILI4139 Жыл бұрын
Left the CHURCH, refused to repent, from personal sins, and can't leave the CHURCH alone.
@VAATAUSILI4139 Жыл бұрын
@@D.c.0 Your extreme lack of knowledge and rebelliousness, can be fixed, that's your agency, rather you repent from personal sins or refuse to repent. THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, is the only TRUE CHURCH, period.
@VAATAUSILI4139 Жыл бұрын
@@D.c.0 You revealing your extreme lack of knowledge, and rebelliousness. Have you forgotten what JESUS CHRIST'S covenant with Apostle PETER? You need to do your homework. You probably have the Bible for over, maybe 40 to 50 years, but don't understand what you're reading.
@VAATAUSILI4139 Жыл бұрын
@@D.c.0 I've across people like you, in the past, I've answered their questions, still don't believe, so I obey and JESUS CHRIST warned members of HIS CHURCH, do not cast pearls to rebellious people, and you're one of them. So, do your homework. And the best and perfect homework for you is, counsel with GOD the Eternal FATHER and GODDESS the Eternal MOTHER, to manifest THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS to you, the only TRUE CHURCH.
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
“We believed that we needed a restoration, a fresh start…” Think about that. It was Joseph Smith who took the steps to start a church. He approached God. He started the church. If He hadn’t taken the initiative, the restoration would not have happened. God was not the initiator of Mormonism. Joseph Smith was. Haven’t heard of the ESV Bible? Dang, “Elders”… educate yourselves. If you claim to be teaching Christianity, at least know something about the major Bible translations. KJV was good 400 years ago, but no serious Biblical scholars consider it the “best” translation out there now. But Mormons have to say that, because that is what Joseph Smith’s scriptures and “revelations” are based on the language in the KJV Oh these poor young brainwashed kids…. They have no idea of all the problems with what they “know is true”…. I was one of them once. It was devastating when I learned how full of holes it is.
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
KJV is more correct to the Hebrew version. ESV loses a lot of meaning in its translation. The fact you are ignorant to that is troubling.
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 Interesting comment, since much of the KJV wasn’t translated from Hebrew. Further, the portions that were translated from Greek didn’t rely on original language sources but rather from the Textus Receptus. Regardless, I never stated that ESV was better than KJV. I do appreciate your concern for me though…. ;-)
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Actually the was an apostacy where the people of Christ's time not only crucified Christ but killed the Apostles or prophets Christ chose essentially destroying the church Christ created by destroying the leadership of the church. If you drop a mirror it shatters into a million pieces. You cannot reform a broken mirror and have a whole mirror. You must start with a brand new mirror, exactly the same as the old.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
And you aren't brainwashed by what you believe as repetitive teaching is essentially brainwashing. We are all brainwashed that is why we need the Atonement to set us straight. No man believes as another in any religion.
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
@@sabreatchley2801 when were the apostles killed, and what were they doing during those decades before they were killed? Who were their successors? Did the teachings and authority of Jesus get passed on to others in the Church, or did it just disappear suddenly? The answers to these questions will surprise you, because they (actual history) are quite different than the Mormon apostasy narrative would lead you to believe. Jesus promised that the gates of Hell would never prevail against His church. He promised that He would never abandon His church. Why does Mormonism contradict these promises of Jesus? Do you believe Jesus? Or not?
@FatherVampire Жыл бұрын
Appreciated how these missionaries knew and used the Bible to answer questions, answering Kev's questions pretty much right on point. It was almost a pro-Mormon vid. 😉
@danite1742 Жыл бұрын
The LDS Church policy is that if you have your name removed from the records of the church then all your saving ordinances are revoked. You lose your salvation. So it is salvation by membership according to church policy.
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
Misrepresentation
@danite1742 Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 Look up a talk given by Mark E Peterson quorum of the twelve in 1973 titled "Salvation Comes Through The Church"
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
@@danite1742 I've read it and you have misrepresented it entirely. The main point that he makes several times is that salvation only comes through Christ.
@notentitledtoyourownfacts2551 Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 - do please elaborate.
@notentitledtoyourownfacts2551 Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 - you said the same thing, that its misrepresentation. The misrepresentation is that Joseph Smith was a false prophet and adulterer, a pedophile and he said you can become God. I'm going to say that disqualifies him.
@mytahiti100411 ай бұрын
Thanks Kevin for giving me an opportunity to address some of your concerns. In my opinion, I believe the only church that actually follows the Bible is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Just a few examples given your criticism of not having just a Heaven or Hell I hear all the time doesn't make any sense having an understanding of the Bible. John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: If it were not so I would have told you. Also see 1 Corinthians 15: 40-41 three degrees of glory are described Sun, Moon, and Stars. Other churches still teach a lot of good things and many Gospel Truths even if they only teach the 10 Commandments. If everyone followed the Ten Commandments the world would be better place. Learning something about God is better than not know anything about good. The Lord has said in LDS scripture; "It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance." An effort a commitment must be made to God usually signified by Baptism. God has body just read Luke 24:39-43 ... where Christ appears apostles;39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. He then eats a honey comb and fish. The bible in many places seems to contradict itself, thus the need for Devine revelation. John 1:18 No man hath seen God... Yet Genesis 5:22 ..Enos Walked with God...Jacob, Geneis 32: 30 .. for I have seen God face to face. Moses, Exodus 33:11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as man speaketh unto his friend...Yet in the Gospel of John; "No man hath seen God at Anytime"? Library translated into French is Bibliotheque, French latin language really means the Library. Revelation 22:19 if any man shall take away from this book of this prophecy, God Shall take away his part out of the Book for Life. Also See Revelation 20:12 for the Book of Life. What is the definition of the Book of Life? I went on LDS mission and would hear many of the same things you have asked these elders a long time ago. Now almost some 40 years later and studying continually all the other churches have different versions of the Bible. Before the King James Version(Used by the LDS church) of the Bible there was the Geneva Bible. As discussed in the Da Vinci Code long suppressed Gnostic Gospels contain secret writings. Now The New American Standard Bible. English Standard Version, Good News Translation, GOD'S WORD translation, The Message, New English Translation, New International Readers Version, New International Version, New King James Version, New and the new Living Translation. It's now humorous to me personally they made a big deal telling me I don't believe in the bible, and forty years later everyone simply changes to a different bible to fit there own narrative, or interpretation. How do you explain so many versions of Bible if this is a big problem for you? Your argument on not following the bible really falls apart here in my opinion. What is traditional Christianity? So your talking about the Crusades, Indulgences, The Hundred years of war between the Catholics and Protestants. Presbyterianism reformed Protestantism which broke off the from the Roman Catholic Church traced to the Church of Scotland or English groups that formed during the English Civil war. Reformed theology of John Calvin and so believes what protestants believe? You think the LDS believe something strange not sure what tradition Catholic and Protestant teachings are. Where is lent in the Bible? Don't get me wrong I think Martin Luther, John Calvin, and John Wesley were all righteous men looking for the truth. "Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:". It was called the Dark Ages. Matthew 5: 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness; for they shall be filled. Thus a need to restore the Gospel with Apostles and Prophets Ephesians 4:11-14.
@louismartin4078 Жыл бұрын
It's good that you sat down with a couple Mormons to discuss scripture. That you did not do your homework and was unprepared was clearly evident. It revealed more or less that they were teaching you, a plus for the Mormon Church, instead of you showing them from the Bible who the Biblical Jesus really is, contrary to their belief that He is the brother of satan.
@johnkauffman1191 Жыл бұрын
And Mormons are very great or latter-day. Saints are great and loving people, but follow a false prophet and if one prophet of God is false every one of the Church living prophets are not of God neither is the church. But we’re all brothers and sisters so pray that they’ll see the light and get to know and love the real Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, our God Amen
@notentitledtoyourownfacts2551 Жыл бұрын
The elder said, "We believe that Christ is the center." - But I'm curious. The center of what? Do they pray to Jesus? Or only to the Heavenly Father? Jesus doesn't seem to be the center, except in name.
@cincyohio1946 Жыл бұрын
They worship and talk about Joseph Smith way more. And before you tell me I'm wrong I went every Sunday for 7 years
@notentitledtoyourownfacts2551 Жыл бұрын
@@cincyohio1946 - I stand corrected. Ultimately my comment was that Jesus isn't actually the focus for them. I think perhaps we are on the same page.. Yes. Joseph Smith is their 'god' it seems.
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
Christ is the center of the LDS faith. The Bible teaches us to pray to the Father in the name of the Son.
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
@@cincyohio1946 you are dead wrong. What is your reason for being deceptive? The LDS do not worship Joseph Smith in the slightest. He is a prophet, but a man none the less.
@notentitledtoyourownfacts2551 Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 - Nah. Jesus is not who you pray to for dinner. You say that, but you are leaving out so much. The Bible teaches you to pray and ask for all things in Jesus' name. John 14:14 is clear. Also Jack - Joseph Smith, the founder of the LDS faith clearly said that there are many GODS other than God, Jesus, Holy Spirit. The Bible is clear that there is only ONE GOD. Joseph's "King Follet's Discourse" made it clear that either what he said was true or the Bible is true. They cannot both be true. That mean's Joseph was either misinformed or a liar. Either way, he is a false prophet and the true Jesus is NOT the center of the LDS faith.
@freemangriffin4953 Жыл бұрын
The mission to help others is wonderful. However, proselytizing others to join the church is the problem. Having conversations about one's spiritual practices is fine and worthwhile. I have a Buddhist practice and go to an LDS church.
@dandelion1239 Жыл бұрын
I’ll pray you trust & believe in Jesus ONLY for your salvation.
@lawrencecarlson2425 Жыл бұрын
Maybe if they all investigated the early bible scripture, they would learn some things. Tel them all about the early texts pastor Kev.
@CrackedCandy Жыл бұрын
Spirit prison is not mentioned anywhere in the Book of Mormon. It is exclusive to the Bible. The three days that Jesus was dead he went to visit those spirits in prison, who rebelled against God in the days of Noah. It is a place.
@Witchfinder48 Жыл бұрын
Jesus was not dead
@Sportliveonline11 ай бұрын
The Titans are referred to here
@CrackedCandy11 ай бұрын
@@Witchfinder48 v18, he died.v19, preached to the spirits (the dead ones) v20 who lived in the days of Noah (you know, who died long ago during the flood) 1 Peter 3:18-20 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
@guytoe Жыл бұрын
Interesting. The scripted LDS missionary approach has changed somewhat since I served an LDS mission decades ago. I've now joined a strict Bible Church. Skip the dubious Book Of Mormon, Bible ONLY. The LDS Christ bears no resemblance to the Biblical Christ. 'Come unto' the Biblical Christ.
@clearstonewindows Жыл бұрын
Interesting, Well when I went on a mission 20 years ago and my dad 45 years ago and my Grandpa's 75 years ago, we all sit around and have very similar mission stories. So keep spreading your lies if you think you need to, or be someone that says this is what I believe.. and this is what they believe... If it's wrong you should have no need to lie.
@guytoe Жыл бұрын
@@clearstonewindows Specifically, how is it a "lie" to state, "The LDS Christ bears no resemblance to the Biblical Christ?" Let's start with their origin ('the LDS as man is god once was' Christ. VS the Biblical eternal Christ with no gods before him.)
@dylanwilliams2202 Жыл бұрын
@@guytoe _"Specifically, how is it a "lie" to state, "The LDS Christ bears no resemblance to the Biblical Christ?"_ Because we believe in the true God and Jesus Christ of the Bible. Jesus Christ who is Lord (Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Philippians 2:11) and the Son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 10:36, John 20:31, Acts 9:20), who is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), who said that God the Father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17), who wanted us to be one with Him and God as they are with each other (John 17:21-23). To us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6). _"'the LDS as man is god once was' Christ."_ Uh, you are either were never a member or you are just very ignorant. We don't believe in the pagan and unbiblical 3 persons 1 being thing the rest of Christianity believes in so you are automatically wrong for trying apply that statement to Christ when it was about the Father. The trinitarian view of God (3 persons 1 being) is not found in the Bible. No verse describes God as 3 persons 1 being in the Old or New Testament, if God was like that then wouldn't you think it would have been explicitly mentioned? It doesn't say that and no honest reading of the Bible would lead you to conclude that God is 3 persons 1 being and every Biblical scholar of all denominations agrees with that. The Bible claims Jesus Christ is Lord (Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Philippians 2:11) and the Son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 10:36, John 20:31, Acts 9:20), He is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), He said that God the Father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17), He wanted us to be one with Him and God as they are with each other (John 17:21-23). Paul very clearly tells us that to us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6). No where in the Bible does it describe God and Jesus Christ like how you all do and there is no verse in the bible to back up your pagan belief and to explain it you have to use sources that came centuries later. Now all that being said, the main tenant of Christianity is that God became man with the personage of Jesus Christ so the phrase "as man is god once was" would be correct in Christianity. Do you not know your own belief system? _"VS the Biblical eternal Christ with no gods before him"_ Just because I feel I need to say it, we don't believe Jesus is a created being. D&C 93:29 “Man was also in the beginning with God. *Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.”* I think it is safe to say Jesus has intelligence so therefore He couldn’t have been created in our theology. Also in Abraham 3:18 “Howbeit that he made the greater star; as, also, if there be two spirits, and one shall be more intelligent than the other, yet these two spirits, *notwithstanding one is more intelligent than the other, have no beginning; they existed before, they shall have no end, they shall exist after, for they are gnolaum, or eternal.”* So there are 2 of our own scriptures that completely contradict the idea of Jesus being a created being and therefore is eternal. Now, Most old testament scholars (both Jewish and Christian) agree that Isaiah 43:10 and all the other Isaiah verses are asserting the supremacy, authority, and superiority of Yahweh and a warning to not worship another God, not meaning there are literally no other Gods. When this verse and all the other ones are read in context then it is clear that Isaiah's reference to forming god is speaking of graven images of metal and/or wood. Isaiah 44:8-18 makes it abundantly clear it is talking about idolatry. When Yahweh said there aren't any "gods" before or after Him, He is referring to an Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Benevolent Ruler to whom man should direct their worship towards. The old testament is filled with references of other Gods and us even becoming Gods. My favorite being Psalms 82:1 “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment” and Psalm 86:8 “There is none like you among the gods, O Lord, nor are there any works like yours.” Most scholars believe that before the Babylonians invaded that the Israelites were more henotheistic and that they believed Elohim or El or Elyon (meaning God most high) and Yahweh or Jehovah being two separate beings and a father (Elohim) and son (Yahweh). Do you want to take a guess on how that worship was done? Exactly like the New Testament describes the worship of the Father through the Son. God is the same yesterday, today and forever and today Jesus Christ is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), do you think that wasn’t the case back in Old Testament times either? Also and again, Jesus said that God the Father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17) so you are flat out wrong that there is no God before Jesus because Jesus said the Father was lol.
@kenziek6707 Жыл бұрын
@@clearstonewindows Man Mormons are are so hateful.
@andreatimmers1720 Жыл бұрын
@@kenziek6707yep horrible fake people
@ChristisLord2023 Жыл бұрын
The text in 1 Peter is telling us that those who were already dead when the sacrifice was made for our sins. They were offered forgiveness just as we are. The reference to the day of judgment doesn't take into account that God is beyond space and time. The universe and the concept of time were made for our understanding alone, God is not restricted by these parameters.
@patricianoel7782 Жыл бұрын
Do you have current, 2022, statistics on number or per cent age of missionaries who go home early?
@dylanhagsauce8629 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@patricianoel7782 Жыл бұрын
@@dylanhagsauce8629 my sister needs to be told as she is in total denial. Thanks 😊
@touranzohdy2861 Жыл бұрын
A very respectful conversation, but had I been there with them I would have steered the conversation more towards the lack of archeological credibility of the Book of Mormon, and many of its anachronistic passages written by a very unaware Joseph Smith who would never have been able to get away with it had he been "translating" the BOM today.
@jimcaulk6225 Жыл бұрын
Good for you for wanting to get more educated, but I think you still need to continue your education. One good resource is a book called "Grit 'n Grace by Lance Earl, its his own journey out of "the church" and into a relationship with the Biblical Jesus. Its pretty in depth but if you stick with it you can get a lot of insight. Maybe you know about this, but there is something called "The ExMormon Files". Where a former Bishop interviews people who have left the Mormon church. One recurring theme in their testimonies is that repeated over and over is that they couldn't get a handle on or understand the concept of "Grace". You could also read, if you haven't already, something called the "CES Letters", a member who has questions about the church's troubling past. Reading this has resulted in many members to leave the church. But what is sad is many who leave give up on God altogether and become agnostic or even atheistic. Instead of turning to Jesus of the Bible.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
The different version of religious books are usually close but some of the verses are off.
@lildurk3004 Жыл бұрын
The Book of Mormon is completely off. Its a book written by man.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
@@lildurk3004 you may think so but actually when properly compared to the Bible the Book of Mormon is actually quite accurate.
@lildurk3004 Жыл бұрын
@@sabreatchley2801 well i have a question for you, can you find anyone in the Bible that was saved just like how you were saved? Can you prove it in scripture?
@lildurk3004 Жыл бұрын
@@sabreatchley2801 if it’s accurate, can you prove it in scripture for me?
@Longe Жыл бұрын
Those who leave the LDS church are believed to go to outer darkness. 1 Corinthians 15:29 reads, “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”. Notice how it says “THEY” and not “WE”? Paul is speaking of pagan customs of the day, not Christian practices! The difference between Mormonism & biblical Christianity is that LDS believe Faith & Works = Salvation (exaltation). Christianity teaches Faith = Works = Salvation. I still believe good works are important, but they are a result of my relationship with God in thanksgiving. LDS MUST do good works, go to the temple, live the Word of Wisdom, wear the garments, etc. in order to be right with God. No LDS could possibly know if the have done enough to gain entry into the celestial kingdom. How could missionaries who proselytize full time for the church say they are not representatives of the church?
@kattoman63 Жыл бұрын
Not true.
@Longe Жыл бұрын
@@kattoman63 Please elaborate on what I shared that was not true?
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
He is a representative of the church what he should have said is what he states as a representative of the church does not overstate the doctrine of the church.
@dylanwilliams2202 Жыл бұрын
@@Longe _"Please elaborate on what I shared that was not true?"_ Literally everything you said is false. _"Those who leave the LDS church are believed to go to outer darkness."_ Is a false statement. Only Sons of Perdition go to Outer Darkness and very few people in all of human history could even qualify to becoming a Son of Perdition, let alone actually becoming one. _"Notice how it says “THEY” and not “WE”? Paul is speaking of pagan customs of the day, not Christian practices!"_ Paul was most sensitive to blasphemy and false practice's. Multiple times he says not to be deceived by false teachers and doctrine (Romans 16:17, Galatians 1:6-8). He said that circumcision, a practice that was part of the Jew religion for centuries, is no longer needed and means nothing now and to stop teaching that it is needed (Galatians 5:2-6). Hell, the whole reason Paul wrote all of his epistles in the first place was to correct those churches when they started to go astray. There are probably other things in the Bible that I am forgetting that reflect his dislike of false teachings. Now with that being said, what makes you think Paul would have included 1 Corinthian 15:29 if he disapproved of baptism for the dead? There is nothing in the text before or after to indicate that he disapproves of the practice, even in greek. You are saying that Paul, while trying to prove that there will be a resurrection, is somehow both condemning baptism for the dead yet also using it as proof that there is a resurrection. Let me try to put it more into perspective for you. Imagine you have doubts about the resurrection and you go to your pastor with your problem. The pastor answers you, saying, "But what about the Mormons who baptize for the dead? If the dead rise not at all, why are they then baptized for the dead?" What do you think you would say? I am sure you would say something like, "Pastor, they're Mormons! Why does it matter what they believe?" Do you now see why saying that Paul was somehow condemning baptism for the dead is pretty ridiculous? Also, Baptism is a Christian thing so you are false by saying "Paul is speaking of pagan customs of the day" _"The difference between Mormonism & biblical Christianity is that LDS believe Faith & Works = Salvation (exaltation)"_ LOL Salvation is not Exaltation. Salvation is being free from sin and Exaltation is being able to progress further. You can have salvation and not exaltation. _"Christianity teaches Faith = Works = Salvation"_ Which is exactly what we teach. _"LDS MUST do good works, go to the temple, live the Word of Wisdom, wear the garments, etc. in order to be right with God"_ The Word of Wisdom is a commandment from God and we are supposed to keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17, Luke 11:28, John 14:15, John 14:21, John 15:10, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 2:3-4, 1 John 5:3, Revelation 12:17, Revelation 14:12). We covenant to God to wear our garments. Going to the Temple is just encouraged. Jesus Christ dying on the cross is what allows us to be forgiven of our sins and is the gateway for us to be resurrected and have eternal life. Without that, no matter what we do, we wouldn't be able to save ourselves from our sins without the atonement. We believe that we are saved by grace through faith but that faith isn't just professed belief and is also expressed in our behavior and/or works (Matthew 7:21-23, James 2:14-26, Titus 1:16, Isaiah 29:13). Or put simply, works are outward manifestations of faith in Christ that allows God’s and Jesus Christ’s grace to increase and affect our lives more abundantly (Ephesians 2:10), similar to what you said. _"No LDS could possibly know if the have done enough to gain entry into the celestial kingdom."_ LOL That is false. If you have a temple recommend then you can enter the Celestial Kingdom. Having a temple recommend is a physical way of saying that you have gained entry into the Celestial Kingdom. Technically, if you have been baptized you can enter (D&C 76:51).
@Joshe206711 ай бұрын
False. Not true. When a member leaves the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they don't go to Outer Darkness. They will not inherit the Celestial Kingdom of glory which is the 3rd heaven (highest heaven or above all heavens) as seen by Paul (in the New Testament). That is what they lose if they do not repent and return to the Church of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 12:2). 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. Ephesians 4:10 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) They will either attain the Terrestrial or Telestial Kingdom of glory. Only a very few (that have come to earth) will go to Outer Darkness (everlasting hell). Only those that have come to a sure knowledge (not faith only) of Jesus Christ and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost will go to everlasting hell. (Matthew 12:31 - 32). 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Doctrine and Covenants 76:32 - 38 32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born; 33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity; 34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come- 35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame. 36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels- 37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power; 38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath. In LDS belief, that is only a very few people (that have come to earth) as stated will go to everlasting hell. Most will inherit one of the many mansions prepared in His Father’s House (Heaven) as Jesus Christ stated. (John 14:2) In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. There are 3 degrees of glory or levels in Heaven or 3 heavens. The Celestial Kingdom , the Terrestrial Kingdom, and the Telestial Kingdom. There is a Kingdom of No glory; Outer Darkness, Eternal or Everlasting Hell, or Lake of Fire and Brimstone, etc. The Celestial Kingdom is compared to the Sun, the Terrestrial Kingdom is compared to the moon, and the Telestial Kingdom is compared to the stars. The Sun is brighter than the moon, the moon is brighter than the stars. So also, shall a person be resurrected to the glory (their countenance shall be as bright as the Sun, or the Moon, or the Stars) of the Kingdom they will inherit or be saved to. (1 Corinthians 15:40-41) 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one-star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: Celestial Kingdom: (read Doctrine and Covenants 76) -Glory of the Sun (compared to the brightness of the Sun) -Dwells in the presences of God the Father and Jesus Christ -This is referred to Strait is the way and narrow is the gate that leadeth to life (eternal life) (Matt7:14, 2 Nephi 31:18, Jacob 6:11) -These are those that will come forth in the 1st resurrection - Only a few will inherit the Celestial Kingdom (3rd heaven) -There are 3 levels in the Celestial Kingdom - The highest level in the Celestial Kingdom is Exaltation - Those that inherit the 2 lower levels in the Celestial Kingdom with be Angels (Messengers) and servants of God the Father. - These are they that did not have an opportunity on earth to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, but if they had heard the gospel of Jesus Christ while on earth would have accepted Jesus and His gospel will inherit the Celestial Kingdom - All Children 8 years and under are automatically saved in the Celestial Kingdom - All Mentally Handicapped Individuals are automatically saved in the Celestial Kingdom. - Those that inherit Exaltation will become Kings and Queens, Priests and Priestesses to the Most High God (Heavenly Father). They will become perfected in Christ and become joint-heirs with Christ and become gods and sit with Christ on His throne, (Matthew 5:48, Romans 8:14 - 17, Hebrews 1:1 - 3, Revelation 21:7, John 10:34 - 36, Psalms 82:1 & 6, Revelation 3:21 - 22, Revelation 1:6, 2 Timothy 2:12). Terrestrial Kingdom: (read Doctrine and Covenants 76) -Glory of the Moon (compared to the brightness of the Moon) -Dwells in the presences of Jesus Christ, but not in the presence of God the Father -will be ministered to by those in the Celestial Kingdom - members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints that weren’t valiant in their testimony of Jesus -These are those that did not receive a testimony of Jesus in the flesh (they had a full opportunity on earth to hear the gospel, but rejected it), but afterwards (in the spirit world) received it - These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men. Telestial Kingdom: (read Doctrine and Covenants 76) -Glory of the Stars (compared to the brightness of the Stars) -Those that inherit the Telestial Kingdom will be ministered to by those in the Terrestrial Kingdom through the Holy Ghost and Angels. They cannot abide the presence of God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. -These are they which were liars, sorcerers, adulterers, whoremongers, idolators, etc., who will be thrusted down to hell (temporary hell/spirit prison) to suffer the wrath of God (suffer for their own sins) and won’t be redeemed from the devil until the last resurrection. -Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. Outer Darkness, Eternal or Everlasting Hell, Lake of Fire and Brimstone, etc.: -a place of NO Glory nor Light. -Reserved for Lucifer (Satan, the Devil, etc.) and his angels (1/3 of the host of heaven that rebelled against God the Father in the pre-existence (pre earth life) that made war (war in heaven) with God and was cast out of heaven because of their rebellion. (Revelation 12:4, 7 - 9) -Reserved for the Sons of Perdition -Reserved for those that have come to a sure knowledge (not faith only) of Jesus Christ and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost which is the unpardonable sin. (Matthew 12:31 - 32). - Committing the unpardonable sin requires a special knowledge of the Savior gained through a sacred experience with Him. President Spencer W. Kimball (earlier Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) helped us understand what this means for most members of the Church: “The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file (members of the Church) to commit such a sin” -Only a very few will go to Outer Darkness (Eternal or Everlasting Hell, Lake of Fire and Brimstone)
@billybravo417 Жыл бұрын
I had tears in my eyes because I had 2 young woman stop by and they are trying to convince me But I was raised Catholic but I'm not happy with their teachings,like call no man FATHER
@FatherVampire Жыл бұрын
Weren't you aware this isn't a Mormon teaching... but comes straight from Jesus: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (St. Matt. 23:9)? Guess you'll have to not be happy with Him. 😉
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't mean in this verse you cannot call anyone father. What he means is not to raise any man above the Father of Heaven our creator. Obviously we all have fathers. Translation of pastor.... father of the church, or in other words the guide. But he also states, paraphrasing here as I don't know the reference, will you worship the axe or the hand that made it? God is our creator he is the Father of our souls. Will we give another that glory or the God who created us?
@FatherVampire Жыл бұрын
@@sabreatchley2801 ... No, it means exactly what it says; call no man your spiritual father (obviously, He's not referring to one's own physical father in the flesh) save for our Heavenly Father. And, absolutely, that specifically refers to anyone claiming to stand in spiritual proxy for God...our Heavenly Father...such as a priest. (And, no, I make no such claim of myself; my moniker was chosen in recognition of an actual historical figure.)
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
In complete agreement.
@Sportliveonline Жыл бұрын
can you do one on the Jehovahs Witnesses and thier control mechanism
@Icanonlyimagn789111 ай бұрын
You should go and learn from the Jehovah Witnesses if you want to learn about what they believe instead of from someone who does not practice what they believe. I met with them for 3 months to learn about what they actually believed so that if I heard them being misrepresented (like Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS are all the time), I could stand up for them. Plus, it’s really cool to learn about other faith practices out there. If your testimony is solid, it can’t hurt you. Only strengthen your beliefs… and you can learn there are really good people out there striving their best to follow God the best way they know how. 💕☀️
@243Venus-43 Жыл бұрын
Them saying Native Americans have Jewish blood, (Book of Mormon) has been completely refuted by D.N.A. Someone needs to tell them.
@dylanwilliams2202 Жыл бұрын
No, there is a group of Natives that have Jewish blood and it has been known for awhile.
@phylodog Жыл бұрын
For me personally, the biggest challenge I find with the beliefs of the LDS church is that the Bible appears to be the "full" story if you will. It describes the beginning, many important stories to help teach people how to live, and a description of the end. If someone is taught the Bible before being exposed to the beliefs of the LDS, the story of John Smith seems like an unlikely addition to the Bible which showed up. It just doesn't sit well but I have very limited knowledge on their beliefs.
@Absraction Жыл бұрын
The whole bible seems unlikely TBH. The way you feel about the LDS Bible is exactly the way I feel about the whole thing.
@jackburton307 Жыл бұрын
The Bible is not just one big book, it is a collection of many books that were gathered and voted on which books to include in the Bible. Even though Revelations is the last book in the Bible, it is not the last book written in the Bible. The Book of Mormon takes place during the same time as the Bible.
@mylesmarkson1686 Жыл бұрын
@@jackburton307 Yeah, but it's just fan-fiction.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Smith and why would you deny anyone the right to testify of God. I don't care where you are from or how you believe you testify of God. The Book of Mormon is the testimony of the people on the American continent testifying of how they came to know God. As long as we aren't adding to the doctrine with this new testament, no new doctrine has been added only a testament of Christ.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Translation of Bible........ Library.
@clearstonewindows2 жыл бұрын
The sound and picture quality aren't great. For more info on the name read the book of 3rd nephi
@erickdesart4246 Жыл бұрын
Just read the original Bible and you cannot go wrong. Do not read any other books or you will follow down the path of satan.
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
Another good one is 2nd Hesitations, totally legit. BTW the Book you mentioned was fraudulently produced by Joseph Smith and his most evil Collaborators, they are burning in hell for rejecting the True Jesus to their last breath and because of their adding to The Holy Bible.
@clearstonewindows Жыл бұрын
@@IamGreatsword sounds like you've not had a chance to look into. You could say you sound like someone at the time of Jesus, passing judgment without knowledge of his mission.
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
@clearstonewindows Okay victimized one I have looked into Mormonism a long time and most likely know more about it than you do, so..... Mormonism is a terrible cult that leads one to everlasting ruin.
@michellesunshinestar Жыл бұрын
Comparative religions is a hobby of mine. Right now I'm learning about Islam, NInja Mommy's channel. I was LDS for 10ish years. I got a civil divorce; I was mad when the church didn't recognize our divorce. And men can get remarried in the temple because of polygamy, but woman cannot. When I learned that, I was so mad.
@nute742 Жыл бұрын
As an update, women can get resealed too (Its already happened)
@carlablair9898 Жыл бұрын
After my divorce I wanted to get remarried. I followed procedure: I wrote a letter to the President of the Church explaining all the circumstances, and I was granted a cancelation of temple sealing. Then I was able to marry my current husband in the temple.
@Ancel31611 ай бұрын
Just follow the real Jesus.
@johnkauffman1191 Жыл бұрын
There’s one thing I don’t agree about after the prophet from the Old Testament. The only other living prophet was Jesus, Christ, our Lord God.
@signin8901 Жыл бұрын
Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Amos 3:1-2
@klaahklee7663 Жыл бұрын
Share this video "TEST OF A PROPHET:BIBLE VS JOSEPH SMITH "
@dylanwilliams2202 Жыл бұрын
That video is garbage that is easily debunkable. Fair mormon as a pretty good article debunking it.
@rotolactor Жыл бұрын
I don't believe in any of it(I'm an atheist), but I really like your nonconfrontational style.
@davidfitnesstech Жыл бұрын
Same. Discussing which ridiculous doctrine and unsubstantiated claims are more plausible.
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
And you came from stardust?
@rotolactor Жыл бұрын
@@estherlewis7458 More plausible and poetic than being the product of two occasions of incest.
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
@@rotolactor How can you trust the thoughts that you think and your own reasoning processes, if your brain is only a random collection of chemicals formed by chance over billions of years?
@rotolactor Жыл бұрын
@@estherlewis7458 Logic and evidence. Give 'em a try!
@catherinehawkins3302 Жыл бұрын
Title should read christian versas christian..
@anonymityonyoutube Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@jlewis8145 Жыл бұрын
Christians don't worship an 'exalted man' from another planet.
@catherinehawkins3302 Жыл бұрын
@@jlewis8145 thaþs right þhey dont.
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
Mormons are not Christians so I don't know why you think that's what it should be called. Presbyterians are truly Christians though.
@catherinehawkins3302 Жыл бұрын
Mormon s are christians i should know because i am both the name of the church has from day one been the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. According to revalation. The nick name mormons was givern to the church. By angry mobs lead by satan who rapped pillaged and killed. Governor boggs.. had an extermination order againts the mormoms. And any man who saw a mormon who they believed was a polygamist.. could be shot on sight... that law was still in forse and used as a excuss. To get people off murder charges.. if they shot a black man.. Boggs law. I thought he was a mormon and he has more than one wife.get off free card!!! This law was repealed in the 1960.s and two years later. Black men could have the priesthood. Without the fear of being shot..on sight . There is brake off group who practice polygamous. Practices. They may or may not call themselves mormons. Its better that mormon name used by predagist haters. Than the name of our savior be used in a blaspamist way.. Hopeing you understand my reply.. FROM ONE FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST TO ANOTHER.. we should all be prepareing for the second coming. In a christ like manor. Not pointing the finger at one another. Prayers for peace on earth should unite all true christians no matter the denomination or building they worship in.. Sincerely.
@00angelbb Жыл бұрын
You were so respectful and open minded in this video and the missionaries did a fantastic job explaining. Getting baptizedbin LDS church this Saturday and my heart is full
@Niceonthefrenchriviera Жыл бұрын
Don’t mix up the kindness of Mormons who are wonderful people,very kind very gentle and very polite with the truth of their doctrine. I almost had this confusion. Being nice doesn’t mean you have the truth. Lots of people don’t realize that elementary fact.
@xander-mk4ck Жыл бұрын
@@Niceonthefrenchriviera well said. I notice that Mormons are some of the fake nicest people around . It’s so creepy . They are nothing but rude , judgmental, and criticizing . Some of the worst people you will ever meet
@oxysz Жыл бұрын
I love you and I know you probably got baptized already but please look into people refuting Mormonism and showing how the Bible disagrees… I want you to find the truth . The scary thing is all the LDS people that end up leaving are so upset they leave God completely instead of finding the truth
@00angelbb Жыл бұрын
@@oxysz I spent a year watching exmormon content and controversies. And the rest of the year watching the defenses of CES letter ect. I made peace. And decided to pray and listen. My faith carries me..indid get baptized. I'm a proud follower of Jesus Christ and the restored gospel
@Niceonthefrenchriviera Жыл бұрын
@@00angelbb By saying it was "restored" you are implying that God almighty cannot protect his words, that doesn't sound like a powerful, omniscient and omnipotent God, does it? Think about that for a second.
@BrianTerrill Жыл бұрын
I find it a little odd that someone can conclude "Mormonism" is a false gospel based less on reading and more on hearsay. We are supposed to READ the scriptures, even Jesus points that out.
@jeaninecookson167 Жыл бұрын
Read the CES letter and Gospel topic essays and you will see for yourself.
@BrianTerrill Жыл бұрын
@@jeaninecookson167 I've already read those. CES letter equals you don't think for yourself, have a nice day dupe
@mylesmarkson1686 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianTerrill When has a Mormon ever thought for himself? The whole religion is based on the idea that leaders must do the thinking FOR you--Otherwise, you wouldn't need their religion.
@BrianTerrill Жыл бұрын
@@mylesmarkson1686 that's a stupid question, something brainwashed liberals ask Christians all the time. Satan has you by the sack so strong you have to resort to stupid talk like that.
@mylesmarkson1686 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianTerrill Someone needs a time-out...and somebody get him his binky!
@jeffs448311 ай бұрын
The easiest way to debunk Mormonism outright is through their Book of Abraham, a book within their BoM. Simply show them Smith's mistranslation compared to the correct translation according to modern Egyptology. They don't match up whatsoever. He attempted to pass off a common Egyptian funerary text taken from a mummy he had purchased from a travelling salesman and claimed it was from Abraham, however, since Egyptian hieroglyphics had just been decoded via the discovery of the Rosetta Stone and was not yet fully understood in America during his time, he got away with it.
@jferristube11 ай бұрын
Let me debunk all so called Christian theology and churches on the planet using the very Bible all of Christendom claim to be the final WORD. That the Bible is all God ever intended us to ever have and ther will be no further scripture outside the Bible. Right!!!??? This is the foundation Root Core Belief of all of Christendom!!! And I assume it is yours also??? ..... every single sect on the planet does not have the complete truth and do not follow the True Christ they all claim to follow and they Falsely claim we LDS are deceived....Nope! They are the ones who are deceived... John Prophesied and saw an angel flying in the midst of Heaven Bringing the Everlasting Gospel to Preach to the inhabitants of the earth before the Great and Terrible Day of the Coming of the Lord... So the question is.... Why would the Almighty God find it necessary to send an angel to bring the Everlasting Gospel IF the Everlasting Gospel IS ALREADY HERE AND CONTAINED IN THE BIBLE. He did send that angel. It was the angel Moroni and the Everlasting Gospel IS contained in the Book of Mormon... All of Christianity claims the Bible is all God ever intended for us. Ther is to be no further scripture from god but here we have God telling us He would send an angel to deliver the Everlasting Gospel! The validity of the Christian doctrines along with all sects live or die stand or fall on this one prophecy by John!!! It doesnt take the HG to tell anyone the answer to this question... Dont be deceived!!! This is His Gospel and Church... Joseph was a true Prophet of God. The Book of Mormon contains that Everlasting Gospel delivered. This is His Church and Kingdom here on earth. The only Church with His Authority!!! And complete TRUTH! Simple!
@indiakant4796 Жыл бұрын
It's just up to the individual if they chose Mormonism or not!
@herbofallon965 Жыл бұрын
We are Latter-day Saints, not Mormons. Non-LDS like to refer to us LDS as Mormons because it gives people the idea we are not ChrIstian. We are not only Christian, but, when the facts are known, we are actually more Christian than Protestant or Sectarian churches. Man-made churches do not have either one of the Lord’s two Priesthoods (Aaronic and Melchizedek) both of which were Restored in 1829. John the Baptist Restored the Aaronic Priesthood. Peter, James, and John Restored the Melchizedek Priesthood. God and Christ both, together, personally appeared to 14-year-old Joseph Smith in 1820 in central New York State. Jesus Christ appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith on more than one occasion. On April 3, 1836, Jesus Christ, Moses, Elias, and Elijah all four personally appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery in the Kirtland Temple in Kirtland, Ohio. Elijah’s appearance that day fulfilled the prophecy concerning him in the Old Testament. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Savior’s one, true Church on the earth. It is the very same Church of Jesus Christ that the Lord organized 2000 years ago, but which fell away a small number of centuries after the Savior was Crucified and Resurrected. In the latter day, through the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jesus Christ Restored His Church back to the earth.
@kenziek6707 Жыл бұрын
Mormons arent christian and why is it you keep running around and commenting on videos you dont even watch?
@Elizabeth-rk3do11 ай бұрын
Christians don't worship an exalted man from another planet. They worship the Creator.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
As the sun provides light being with God in heaven provides the most light and direction. Like the moon it provides light but not as much as the sun, so not being able to dwell with God doesn't provide as much light and direction in the next life. While those who deny the truth may have light but how much light can they receive if they deny God or truth. So like a star provides minimal light on a night with almost no moon, how much light truth and direction can a person receive.
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
Why are you saying things that are vague and very blunt but Whaaa?
@YaakovBuchner11 ай бұрын
" For this is the reason the gospel (((was preached))) even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit". It does not say the gospel will be preached to the dead. It was preached to our forefathers who are now deceased. Corinthians of the King James Bible was not translated from Hebrew, it was translated from Greek and Latin. Amos, a declared prophet in the Book of Mormon stated that Jesus was born in Jerusalem. This was written by Joseph Smith in the early 1800's. The Dead Sea Scholls dating to 200 B.C. declare Jesus was born in Bethlehem, as do all Bibles today. According to the Word of God, a false prophet is to be put to death, and are accursed. This is one of the countless false prophesies found in the Book of Mormon, none of which declare what is found in the Scriptures which have been proven to be consistent throughout history from our earliest found Scripture found in the Dead Sea Scrolls dating as far back as 400 B.C..
@jawnatutorow Жыл бұрын
1 Peter 4:6 isn't talking about literal dead people it's speaking of those dead in Christ that live in the flesh. The gospel is preached to them for a chance to repent. Those who are alive already accept and live for Christ and die to their flesh, the dead reject Christ and/or live for the flesh. Which is outlined in the verses before 6.
@jawnatutorow Жыл бұрын
And the 1 Corinthians 15:42 reference is about resurrected bodies not places for judgment....*you covered it! I'm wondering if maybe Joseph Smith just didn't understand the Bible in the first place, it can be hard to interpret especially if you just bounce around 😕
@michellesunshinestar Жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised they let you film this. You should offer them water and something to eat.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Did you not notice water on the table?
@Ancel31611 ай бұрын
My thing is. Why isn't Jesus enough? His words, teachings and sacrifice. Jesus said to trust and follow him. Not Muhammad, not Joseph Smith or any other prophets.
@Joshe206711 ай бұрын
However, He also authorized prophets and apostles and others to preach his gospel and teach correct doctrine and the plan of salvation, the strait and narrow way Ephesians 2:19 - 20 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Ephesians 4:11 - 13 11 And he agave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: If we no longer needed apostles and prophets after Christ, then why did we need Peter, Paul, Timothy, and others after Christ. We wouldn't have the New Testament without them. Most of the books of the New Testament were written decades after Jesus Christ was on earth. Even today, most religious people follow someone; Pope, Bishop, Priest, Pastor, Minister, Spiritual Leader, Themselves, etc.
@AlbertJLouie Жыл бұрын
No matter how hard the Mormon church tries to convince everyone that the Bible and the Book of Mormon carries the same message. It doesn't for the following Biblical reason: Mormons teach that the angel Moroni came down from heaven and gave Joseph Smith the Book of Mormon. Let's hear what God Himself says about this claim in GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..." There you are Mormons, God Himself telling you that He did not send any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith. Notice that God said it TWICE to make sure that there's no misunderstanding. Next, the Book of Mormon contradicts every central doctrine of the Bible. The Divine Nature of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (the Trinity), the Deity of Jesus Christ, being saved by grace through faith not of works, Mormons believe that one day they can become god's in which God Himself says you can't in ISAIAH 43:10, Mormons teach that God is a man. With so many contradictions and Biblical evidence, the Mormonism is not considered Christian.
@dylanhagsauce8629 Жыл бұрын
They seem like nice kids, I agree.
@Joshe206711 ай бұрын
Revelation 14:6 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgement is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
@wm3277 Жыл бұрын
When they come to my door I dont answer
@fumble_brewski5410 Жыл бұрын
And if you ARE a member the (so-called) LDS church, you’re NOT a Christian, but a cultist.
@mahonri69 Жыл бұрын
Why you "Christians " think you are right, it's hard to fill a cup that's already full.
@LockeDemosthenes2 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Ex-Mormon, but content like this really annoys me. I think all religion is incorrect and illogical, dunking on one particular religion that happens to be slightly more absurd than yours doesn't do anyone any good.
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
Didn’t watch the video, huh?
@mikellasa Жыл бұрын
@@ChaChaDancin I watched the video and agree with him. Want to continue making childish generalizations?
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
@@mikellasa The purpose of the video wasn’t to “dunk on” the missionaries. It was actually pretty respectful and allowed the missionaries to explain their beliefs. So, I’m guessing you didn’t watch the video either. If that’s a “childish generalization” then so be it.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Both sides were respectful.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
I see your testimony all religions are incorrect and illogical. Your opinion. If that is what you believe why did you watch the video anyway????
@lasarotuimaisala314 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 they are funny with their interpretation.
@ifyoudontworkyoudonteat7644 Жыл бұрын
Christians too
@Sportliveonline11 ай бұрын
you have the other 80 Gospels that are not in the Canon of the Bible Gospel of Thomas Gospel of Peter etc etc you have The Aqaurian Gospel of Jesus The Christ when Jesus went to India ~~in fact any body can write anything ~~problem is you cant validate it of verify
@AndrewOlsen356 Жыл бұрын
I cringe when I see a video titled like this one because they're almost always presented like one giant gotcha, not a respectful conversation. Nice job.
@Sportliveonline11 ай бұрын
they cant prove thier theology
@marksanders9887 Жыл бұрын
You’re not allowed to film 🎥 mormons, they think it’s stealing their soul
@jeanie8593 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the missionaries are right and are teaching the truth.
@Elizabeth-rk3do11 ай бұрын
God would never damn people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy. D&C 132 The true and living God offers forgiveness of sins, salvation and eternal life for free. That is how much God loves everyone! ❤️
@Sportliveonline11 ай бұрын
they have a warm feeling in thier heart
@globalman2 Жыл бұрын
why are they always in pairs ?? afraid of getting converted ?
@clearstonewindows Жыл бұрын
May want to read the New testament for yourself to answer this question.
@globalman2 Жыл бұрын
@@clearstonewindows the only fairytale book I like is Cinderella.
@clearstonewindows Жыл бұрын
@@globalman2 I've actually never read that. You don't believe in God? Do you believe in free will? I would recommend reading the book of mormon it's changed my life.
@globalman2 Жыл бұрын
@@clearstonewindows no I dont believe there are any Gods. Those Bronze Age beliefs (Christianity and more recent) are just remnants of a time people didn't know better. Hinduism is a more accurate attempt to depict the World around us and the meaning of it all. The Book of Mormon is possibility the most fraudulent claim there is so no I won’t but you are free to read and believe whatever you wish.
@dacarroll88 Жыл бұрын
As a former LDS church member who did a 2-year mission myself, I feel that you are both wrong. The same logic that can be used to deconstruct the LDS church's truth claims can also be applied to Christianity in general. When you do this, you find that there is a lot of Biblical scripture and foundational Christian doctrine that is based on myth and is objectively disprovable. In the absence of objective evidence to support Christian dogmas (or other religious dogmas for that matter), I feel that secular humanism makes the most sense.
@Sportliveonline Жыл бұрын
Maybe you have heard of The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus The Christ
@ninjanana8730 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to bring information to your viewers you need to be better prepared to ask questions. Just a thought.
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
King Zedekiah
@thomaszibelli5066 Жыл бұрын
The true church is the S.D.A church they keep the true Sabbath of God on Saturday the 7th day! (Exodus 20:8-11)
@Elizabeth-rk3do Жыл бұрын
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
@thomaszibelli506611 ай бұрын
@Elizabeth-rk3do The Catholic Church admits they made the change of the Sabbath from Saturday, Sunday in the catechism! (Daniel 7:25) 👿🔥
@Elizabeth-rk3do11 ай бұрын
@@thomaszibelli5066 The Catholic Church never changed the day of worship. Why do you believe what the Roman Catholic Church tells you? You must be Catholic. God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 The SDA church has lied many times. First, Ellen White said that the Pope changed the day of worship. What she didn't realize was that there was no Pope until 606 AD . Then she said that early Christians changed the day of worship in 135 AD. When that was shown to be false.... Then, she said that Constantine changed the day of worship. But that was a lie as well. On March 7th, 321 AD, Constantine created the first Sunday closure law. All businesses were to be closed. Christians were already worshipping on Sunday.
@Elizabeth-rk3do11 ай бұрын
@@thomaszibelli5066 Jesus Christ said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. Jesus never said to preach the book of Daniel and Revelation. Most Seventh Day Adventists don't even know what the gospel is. They have no hope of heaven. Such a sad story. 😞
@thomaszibelli506611 ай бұрын
@Elizabeth-rk3do It's a part of history. The Catholic Church changed the Sabbath Constantine he wanted that day you can go on Google and read all the Catholic quotes, and other Christians say that Saturday is the true Sabbath. Sunday keeping is the Mark of the Beast of Revelation chapter 13 repent! 🙏
@tywatts7834 Жыл бұрын
Vrs is not the best word
@peterhawkins7130 Жыл бұрын
You look hung over
@eyaidghanim7431 Жыл бұрын
Islam is the only religion of truth your god and my god is one Allah Jesus(Esa) is the prophet and messenger of Allah
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
You are wrong. Jesus is God and you must obey him if you are called according to his purpose, to go and be with the Father.
@eyaidghanim7431 Жыл бұрын
@@IamGreatsword I worship the creator not the creation god does not die and god is self sufficient god knows everything Jesus in your own Bible didn’t know when the hour will take place
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
@Eyaid Ghanim You do err not knowing the Scriptures Jesus is God and it's way above your pay grade to "know" The trinitarian nature of God. God The Father God The Son and God The Holy Spirit are one God akin to 1×1×1 = 1 but hey if your not called according to his purpose then you will be condemned for your imperfection He redeems who he chooses to redeem are you a vessel made for Honor or for the potters field thats the question for us all.
@eyaidghanim7431 Жыл бұрын
@@IamGreatsword Muslims believe in a strong powerful self sufficient all knowing god listen man Christianity is a dying religion just research on any website you want what is the fastest growing religion in the world 🌎
@IamGreatsword Жыл бұрын
Hmm? Nice! I think I might have to join Islam because of your presentation 🤔Sarcasm intended. LOL Not gonna happen I worship God in all his glory and as he wants me to worship him you do not know the truth so what can I expect from a person like you that doesn't know Truth. Jesus is the Way, The Truth And The Life. No one comes to the Father except through Him. All Glory and praises To him.
@JamesOttman11 ай бұрын
bro uses SD 480 p in 2023 💀
@kevenclinton4970 Жыл бұрын
Catholicism is the one true religion.
@dylanwilliams2202 Жыл бұрын
No, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination including the Catholics. The Catholics have nothing to stand on and is filled with pagan idolatry.
@jerusha4marlene Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Kolob!! I spent some time on planet Gaaarrgg but I thought I would see how things are going here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
@fredfernandez9472 Жыл бұрын
its like black and decker VS Ryobi. just drop both and go with Milwaukee