Logic 11 - WHAT HAVE THEY DONE???!!!

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24 күн бұрын

How do we feel about A.I. being used in our trusty DAW is it the beginning of the end or the beginning of the next chapter. Christian takes us through the latest version of Logic (11) what has caught his eye, what he likes, doesn't like. In the next video we will be discussing AI please leave comments below of your thoughts, experiences, fears and exultations.

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@andyneve357 22 күн бұрын

Good video Christian. Actually Logic 11 does work on Intel processors it’s just mainly the stem separation tools and a few of the demanding AI features that are only for M1 and above. Cheers. Andy

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Thanks for that correction Andy.

@FluxriderTV 19 күн бұрын

How can I hear your music?

@nigelcarren 21 күн бұрын

"One DAW opens... another one closes!"

@MOSMASTERING 20 күн бұрын

.."crashes"

@rhythmace1 19 күн бұрын

I'm genuinely amazed I haven't heard this excellent pun made before.

@nigelcarren 18 күн бұрын

@@rhythmace1 I thank you for your kind words. However, in retrospect I deeply regret leaving that comment! Because in accordance with the teachings of my Shaolin master, I am prohibited from practicing Pun-Fu outside of my temple! 🇬🇧🙏🏻🇬🇧

@SteveSensenig 15 күн бұрын

I thought it was "Whenever God closes a DAW, somewhere he opens Windows"

@sensumcommunem 22 күн бұрын

I honestly think that _"Not made by A.I.!"_ will soon become a branding tag across many mediums, art forms, and products. A.I. is simply being used as a buzzword to brand a technology/products which directly affects that company's share price value. A lot of things that are branded as A.I. are not really true A.I., they are what was formerly termed "Expert Systems". The main difference being where the dataset for the old Expert Systems was their access to physical data storage, the new Expert Systems now have access to the internet as their database. Even though what A.I. currently produces is pretty good, and it will get better, I still think there will be a sterile element to it. It won't be anything particular that you will be able to discern, or identify, it will just be a feeling that something is off. A little bit like in the 1986 remake of "The Fly" movie. When they teleport the steak through the telepods: it looks just like a steak, smells just like a steak, but - upon tasting - just doesn't taste right. I think A.I. produced material will be very much like this. Of course, in the corporate world, if the executives can get ad, TV, and promotional music/video for free, then they will use it, but it will be noticeable. Just as the likenesses of many famous actors are now being used in film and TV commercials. You recognize them, and they fit the intended part/role, but - as visually close to the real thing they are - they are still easy to identify as being artificially generated. I think professional composers and producers will take a hit initially, especially those not in the top tiers with a canon of work behind them, but once things start to become _"sameyfied",_ I think that brands will again want to stand out from the crowd by having _"Not made by A.I.!"_ materials promoting their products to set themselves apart from their competitors. And then we come full circle. I think with anything new or novel, they go through several phases: excitement, awe, mistrust, rejection, and compromise. I think that A.I. is currently at the mistrust/rejection phase. There will be a backlash, but that backlash will only carry weight if the big players get involved too (top directors, actors, producers, bands and singers, etc.), because let's face it, they too also face being made redundant. Sure, they can sell their "image rights", but most actors/singers do what they do because of the fame and adoration it attracts, and that will dissipate when their fans know it's just a render of that person, not the person themselves. I think there will then be a period of compromise where A.I. gets to do the boring/mundane elements, leaving the human to concentrate on the more creative elements of the production process. The very thing that makes it unique. I could be wrong, but I hope not. P.S. I am not a music composer or producer, I'm just a home hobbyist.

@pentachronic 21 күн бұрын

To some extent I agree but I think the thing that will seal it for musicians is them playing live to audiences. Being able to play live is proof of skill.

@michaelbirtill691 21 күн бұрын

Isn't that just the same as when Queen used to print this album contains no synthesisers on their albums, only to then use synths on later ones....

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

@@michaelbirtill691 It'll be the same as when people started using drum machines... fake strings, autotune, quantize. At first its lambasted, then it dominates and then it juist settles back into the tool-box of stuff we use.

@michaelbirtill691 21 күн бұрын

@@TheCrowHillCo Indeed. I'm currently writing about AI in education and its exactly the same sort of panic

@AB-wf8ek 21 күн бұрын

I'm already on the other side of this. I think AI tools are just tools, and people are hating on it for all the wrong reasons. I'm a 3D animator, and people saying you can't make anything creative with it are being willfully ignorant to the creative process. I'm finding the tools profoundly unique in their ability to create animations with subject matter that could never be made with any other medium, and it takes a lot of time, energy, and technical knowledge to get the best results. I think the tools will become so pervasive that ignorant people who are not familiar, will begin to doubt everything they see, even when someone says it isn't AI. One of the only genuine things that anyone will be confident in, are people who explicitly say they are using AI, but making work that is undeniably unique and artistic. Unfortunately AI has been marketed as a copy machine by technologists who are not artists, because that's the metric they use to identify how well the models have been trained. The reality is, in the hands of an actual artist, you can make exceptionally unique and personal work. I've been repeating this statement for 2 years now: AI lowers the bar for entry, but the ceiling is just as high.

@Rice_sama 22 күн бұрын

You mentioned you have switched to Cubase from logic. If you haven’t already can you please make a video explaining why and a retrospective on your feelings of both programs?

@RudalPL 17 күн бұрын

Yes, please.

@chakratones 22 күн бұрын

You are on absolutely blistering top form, thank you!

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Wow, thanks, I actually currently have whooping cough so it was quite an editing job!

@adrianomarinelli6150 20 күн бұрын

I think this is one of the best , most insightful videos I have seen in a long time....Im subscribing now!

@bassManDavis1953 22 күн бұрын

I will defo be using the stem splitter, love the way you have presented this new version 11

@starsky101 22 күн бұрын

I’m gonna go right out there and say it, stem splitting is the biggest thing to happen to music since sampling. The next step will be accurate splitting of each part of a symphony orchestra. 3rd trumpet for me, as it has the solo in Birdland.

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

I agree, what people are going to be able to do with this is amazing. ALSO... with no income from streams, or sales, I think this will give people massive freedoms to use the entire canon of recorded music to make something we have never heard before.

@patientzerobeat 19 күн бұрын

Moises software can already split into what Logic does [vocals, drums, bass, other], plus individual drums [kick, snare, hat, toms etc...], keys, strings, acoustic guitar, electric guitar. Having said that, a cursory try of Logic 11 reveals a better algorithm for those basic stems that Moises also does. So I"m thinking Apple has future splitting up their sleeve and don't want to release it until the "other" splitting is more intelligent and sounds better.

@michaelbrandstetter 21 күн бұрын

Thank you, exactly the Logic Pro 11 review I needed!

@brightonmischief 22 күн бұрын

Just tried it on an old band rehearsal recording! Wow - it really works well! This is going to be so useful!

@neilmacmusic 22 күн бұрын

as usual I totally love and am educated by your great videos🙏 thank you so much🎈 if I can mention the S word who would've thought that something even greater could emerge from Spitfire Audio than the essence himself! ...your approach is even more genuine and grassroots than before🤟 cheers

@Dragonit_es 21 күн бұрын

Thanks for the vid, really well done and insightful ❤

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Kind comment, thanks.

@miketkong2 17 күн бұрын

Well done! Thank you for your insightful and honest review.

@jonathanwingmusic 22 күн бұрын

We need more explicit-filled rants from Christian! I love and can relate to this energy 🤣 Couldn't agree more about the points on mediocrity. I am not sure why you would want your DAW to write your music for you - if you're a musician, composer, producer, ideally you got into it to create your own music in the first place. Some might think of it as a good "jumping off point" but why jump off from mediocrity? To only create more copy-paste mediocrity? The world doesn't need more of that. The world needs to hear from YOU.

@ghost-user559 22 күн бұрын

Because not everyone is the same person? A singer songwriter isn’t always a pretentious “composer” like the present company. Whose going to pay thousands of dollars for session players just to make a quick pop song demo or a mix tape for a Garage band lol?

@jonathanwingmusic 22 күн бұрын

@@ghost-user559 I haven't downloaded the new Logic yet myself, but having watched videos, it honestly appears to be a bit of a arrange-for-you-plug-and-play approach. There are already "session" virtual instruments which have existed for years, all the Native Instruments offerings, and many drum kit instruments with pre-arranged midi loops to get you started (for example all the Scarbee kontakt instruments). So this idea isn't new, it's just that it's been consolidated and marketed in such a way. I don't look down on anyone using these tools, but I think if you're opening Logic up to create music, I would assume it's because you want to make music and not have it all arranged for you based on some presets which will invariably sound like anyone else using them. No pretense intended there. All that said, if used to loop and generate ideas over, I think it can be useful. I might actually use it for when practicing instruments, could be helpful to create my own custom backing tracks with changing variables to add into my practice routine and solo over with a bit of randomization introduced to keep me on my toes.

@ghost-user559 22 күн бұрын

@@jonathanwingmusic I did not mean you specifically, more the composers in general, even Christian despite the theatrical approach is still fairly level headed in the end. However people seem to forget where they themselves were 20 years ago. People who have single pieces of equipment in their studio that is more than multiple years of rent tend to forget that most “musicians” are one month away from homelessness, and this is the norm not the exception. And then you factor in college students or below, who basically might just have a lone instrument to practice in their garage, and suddenly they now have an entire band. For 200$ you can have limitless accompaniment and actionable sheet music for multiple instruments, editable midi, and you have live backing tracks for demos if you are a vocalist or singer songwriter. I understand Christians perspective and yours, but I don’t think either can really emphasize or remember what it is to be “normal” or “beginning”. I would wager most for all of humanity the majority of musicians are “mediocre” statistically. They are usually the ones who teach it, preserve it, and the reason we can even read it.

@davidlevymusic 22 күн бұрын

Well said my dude

@jonathanwingmusic 22 күн бұрын

@@ghost-user559 thanks for the thoughtful response and all great points. I grew up using a 4-track portastudio in the 90s so I never really had access to all these kind of tools we have today. The great thing in many ways is the gap has really been closed, anyone with even a used laptop, $20 midi controller, and a copy of garage band can create music for an entire band or orchestra, something I never would've dreamed possible when I was a kid. So I get that! I think there would be a place for the session instruments for anyone looking to create a demo sketch to show friends or a producer - and even I myself have used loops to sketch out structures so I may try this for that sort of thing, knowing I'd go back and replace everything with my own instruments and playing once I get a song structure built. But to me, ultimately there is value in hearing music that comes from the heart of an individual rather than a computer-generated preset. I think that was my main point - taking the wealth and access point to an extreme, I would rather listen to someone with that used laptop and garage band and no musical training but writes a song from their heart and soul, expressing their unique perspective with authenticity even if they have no clue what they're doing technically, than listen to someone who has an embarassment of riches of studio gear/plugins and extensive musical training but creates music which is soulless - technically precise but devoid of any personality and perspective. Of course either scenario can create mediocre music lol. And I agree that most people of any artistic medium lean toward mediocrity statistically, so that's going to happen no matter what (with or without these tools).

@Mysdee-B 22 күн бұрын

I started producing three years ago, and I cannot agree more with educational value of stem splitter. I have analyzed hundreds of tracka using Demucs, and learned a lot. Welcome addition to Logic.

@Iain2000 22 күн бұрын

Christian… you’re on fire here! Absolutely immense video. (Let’s get those mashups and alternate film trailers out there…)

@totalpkgproductions2797 21 күн бұрын

Love the passion...Love the delivery...Love the perspective and love the imagination...💯%👈

@user-pu8yy2dk9v 18 күн бұрын

AWESOME REVIEW CHRISTIAN!!! LOVE IT 👊

@mrdavies7894 22 күн бұрын

You really sum up my own feelings on AI, especially regarding the creative arts. Thank, Christian!

@mybachhertzbaud3074 22 күн бұрын

Music for me has always been a communication of one or many peoples expression of feeling transmitted through the air. The more you remove the human from the process the worse it gets. Alas,🤔 🎶🎹🎶Play On

@bengsynthmusic 22 күн бұрын

But that rules out synths.

@nicebluejay 22 күн бұрын

my laptop just went in the bin lol

@mas3974 22 күн бұрын

Totally agree. Humans are very spiritual and powerful beings. We must always remember this gift and keep it as pure as possible.

@ghost-user559 22 күн бұрын

They said that about sheet music, they said that about tritones, they said that about recording music, then they said that about electric guitars, then they said that about synths, then they said that about mp3, then they said it about samples, and they said it about digital daws, and here we are, and almost no one in this comment section even owns a handful of real instruments. Ultimately it wont really be true, until everything is just an ai radio station, and at that point people will be so far removed from humanity they wont know the difference unfortunately. Point being they have always said this, and yet we still keep making music.

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Indeed... I suspect the connection between sound and emotion has something to do with our abilities to recognise the scream of our child in a melee of other noises. Its not that we hear it per se but that we feel something isn't right. I think it boils down to millions of years of evolution that has left us with nuance hard wired to our feelings, not neccessarily to our full cognitive understanding?

@elbernoffice3152 15 күн бұрын

great point ! Thanks for your enlighting review!

@3rdPersonProductions 20 күн бұрын

“The potential to educate here is outstanding” - absolutely agree. The “Kiss” example was fascinating. Thanks mate 🎸

@MeesterSmeeeth 18 күн бұрын

Gotta love Logic. I've been using it since v1 to make songs and tunes. It's always been 'enough' to allow me to make music, from the days of tapes and Romplers until the incredible stuff built in today. And now, with the latest versions, I made, produced, mixed and released an album -- to zero ears! -- on a laptop from my sofa. Crazy times. It always makes my heart sink when people complain about this stuff. It's incredible. I'd hate to be so jaded and joyless. The bass players may not be of interest, but the new bass instruments most certainly are, they sound great. Even if the built in players play them much better than I can.

@Sinnersainthuman 10 күн бұрын

Great vid Christian!

@IMproduktions 22 күн бұрын

Thank you for this words! ❤❤❤

@antsteep 22 күн бұрын

I have lost a job to AI. I was composing for a metaverse computer game. They have now told me it is gong to be better for marketing if the music is composed by AI and want me to facilitate that for a fraction of the fee rather than compose. They want to ride the hype train rather than have the best results. At the AI music industry moment it is tech bros trying to raise money. They are taking in lots of venture capital money and those investors are going to want to see some kind of profitable business. Is it going to be a viable business model for film makers to subscribe to a service to have AI make their music?

@jonahlouque9621 22 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that man, music is not an appreciated art to the masses. Your idea about a subscription service for music for film sounded outlandish at first, but I think I can see it becoming a reality. I doubt big budget films would do so, but smaller films and Netflix TV show type stuff would definitely do it. At this rate, Media Composing might not be a viable job for much longer.

@TheHouseOfVII 22 күн бұрын

I have been playing with the Stem Splitter - and it's been fascinating. Particularly with drums, being able to hear them in isolation I've noticed so many clever programming tricks or drum hits that I hadn't consciously noticed in the full mix of the track. And I love your idea of taking moving picture and pulling out the music so you can then go in and write your own music with the voices of the actors still in place - hadn't even crossed my mind that would be a use case it for. I mainly used Ableton but I'm definitely going to be pulling out Logic for this!

@damienribot1143 22 күн бұрын

Using AI to separate the voice from the background "noise" in the singer's microphone, was a fabulous solution for mixing a live recording.

@Edbrad 22 күн бұрын

I’m not sure why so many producers are so anti-AI. It’s like I never knew they were such laggards with no vision. Don’t they realize what this will be like when they give us more control, and when it gets better? It will be what we always wanted out of sample libraries. But apparently they’re going to fight it until they get that, and they’ll they’ll resentfully accept it and use it when they see how good it is.

@DanielaTocan 22 күн бұрын

@@Edbrad WE from the Davinci Resolve Audio and Sounddesign Groupsince are not against AI. My Husband did write 40 years ago His Thesis arround Semantic AS expert system for 5 years programming with Prolog AI. The point is the miss use of the big Players in the music Industries against the legal interests of artists.

@fkknsikk 22 күн бұрын

@@Edbrad It's not about the useful tools for musicians. It's about the ones intended to replace them and/or allow non-musicians to pretend they're musicians. Graphic designers are already losing their jobs and many other trades will follow soon. You think bands are going to pay a session player if AI is an option? What are working musicians and producers supposed to do with their many years of practice when anyone can pay 5 bucks a month to pretend they have the same skills? What are the wider consequences of a few companies stealing the revenue of multiple entire industries? It will also affect art as a whole. Most people won't bother putting 100s of hours into something special when they can just take a shortcut and make what everyone else is making. A.I. was pitched as a tool, but that's not what's actually happening, and we're concerned about those choosing to wield it as a weapon.

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Removing backgrounds in photoshop/figma is very similar. Takes a lot of faff out of something that is so so useful.

@peterknockaert9176 22 күн бұрын

The 'No...' at 5'40" is the best response to the whole so-called innovation... and sums it all up!

@nicebluejay 22 күн бұрын

so new musicians learning from these new tools is a bad idea?

@MePeterNicholls 22 күн бұрын

They all have their uses.

@psmusicpro 6 күн бұрын

Goooooooshhhh I love your brutal honesty 🙌🏼

@hankfowler8194 16 күн бұрын

You are at a very high musical level. Will follow you for sure .

@BoogieBear 20 күн бұрын

More excellent comment, thank you Christian 👍

@IsaacStuart 21 күн бұрын

I hadn't even thought of the prospect of using the Stem Splitter for removing music from film/tv clips to dub. I have always wanted to try scoring/writing for picture but never known how to start. I think this is such an exciting tool - Thanks for inspiring as always Christian x

@Jeppe4421 22 күн бұрын

And then out of the blue Christian pops up Stina Nordenstam, one of my favorit artists! An already great video got even greater! Keep puting out fantastic content!👍🍺

@Decranz-sb7pg 21 күн бұрын

I really love the way you discuss in this video. I am old but very young, and I agree that talented people can always squeeze out something interesting where others just become mediocre. I did not download the base player in Logic11 because I can't imagine that I will ever use it. Anyway, everything is good if someone really enjoys it. To record in a home studio is a wonderful hobby. Logic for everyone! And some people love boring music. I'm a little bit picky myself :) Lots of love from sunny Sweden (this week)

@montigol 22 күн бұрын

great honest review

@blqckpop 17 күн бұрын

I’m in mid projects and am a bit concerned about bugs in the 11, but tbh I can’t wait to upgrade eventually. I’m on the M1Max and still running in Rosetta.. that’s how nervous I’m about running into problems. So far though most people give it the thumbs up! I subscribed ‘cause great vid, great style and delivery! Thanks for posting.

@AndyDrudy 22 күн бұрын

I keep wondering as I watch this video - what the hit is on your electricity bill to keep that big synth turned on!

@gesslr 22 күн бұрын

Brilliant idea at 12 minutes in. ❤

@jensnordbjerg9937 17 күн бұрын

So true. Mediocrity through perfection. You are good. Well spotted and well said.

@jonpaulhollingsworth4732 20 күн бұрын

glad somebody has said this about stem splitting. will allow us to learn how to play instruments better understand your favourite drummers swing etc

@Superdelphinus 22 күн бұрын

If you’ve got soundtoy’s little alter boy there’s loads of fun you can have with stem splitter and whacking it on the vocal track and either shift it up or down by an octave. My favourite so far is oh! Darling where a really high pitch Paul Mac going mental had me in stitches (yes I am probably quite childish).

@Uuuuyyyyuuu 21 күн бұрын

hahaha brilliant use! can't wait to try this thanks for the mad genius idea

@ashwinrenju 21 күн бұрын

that new instrument at the end sure does sound dope! waiting for this one from Crowhill!

@leolovetoparty 14 күн бұрын

Nice one - thank you 🙏

@videomove 18 күн бұрын

nice one. interesting thoughts!

@robmullins7052 20 күн бұрын

Excellent perspective.

@Yoshipiano145 21 күн бұрын

I’m also switching to cubase from logic. How are you handling the switch?

@palsheldon6520 20 күн бұрын

this was great...balanced views with outrage... all the feels... :)

@jp20003 17 күн бұрын

Looks great! I’ve been using Synplant 2 for a while, and the AI sound generator is pretty impressive. You can drop any sample into it, and it regenerates it into synthesis along with 20 versions.

@alsoulmusic 22 күн бұрын

I have several software products that have stem separation but my favorite for education is RipX Daw. I have been taking lessons on the Bass and I find it to be extremely useful because it also displays the notes that are played. This makes it great for learning new songs and practicing them. Since it can be opened standalone I don’t have to open my Daw to use it. There are a lot of other features that I have not explored.

@calvin808 22 күн бұрын

I was there in the early 80s when MIDI was being implemented: the community screamed that it was going to replace musicians. (Every musician I know uses MIDI) I was there in the 90s when General MIDI was released: the community screamed it was going to replace musicians. And much like when 37% of the population believed camera's were going to take your souls in the 1900s, AI is just another technological advancement that puts fear into so many. AI is here - we have to get over that, and find ways to work with it. Embrace it, and grow with it. It's nowhere near where it is supposed to be or will be. GREAT VIDEO!!!

@movement6514 22 күн бұрын

Man, you never know whatever you will say is positive or negative criticism, was quite exhausting to listen to.

@bosonbreeder 21 күн бұрын

Wow! Stina Nordenstam! Great choice.

@DanielaTocan 22 күн бұрын

Old cold coffee Christian… the Engine we did identify is the iZotope Engine… implemented in Davinci Resolve since some time…. I mainly use as my DAW Davinci Resolve beside in case of need Logic older version and cubase pro 12. But I allways look to stay compatible to the Fairlight EVO hardware under Windows 7. Check out Syntesia FX from Rhizomatic… with Plasmonic… all it’s from the Absynth Programmer Brian Clevinger and in Heavy Discussion inside the Davinci Resolve Audio and Sounddesign group. In case you like to do know what I am doing in this combination with String Murmations drop some line below my last video at KZfaq to get a invitation for the group…

@georgestorey7186 21 күн бұрын

Great insights. One thing I have learned that works for me, your mileage may vary, is to make the best of what you have at the time, work for you. I'm still using a mid 2010 Mac Tower with a 12 core CPU and the max amount of RAM. I am still on High Sierra so can't update anything but I make it work. Use what you have and make it work. Wish I could update though as it would be fun to play with new toys.

@IlBiggo 17 күн бұрын

I've been using Izotope RX on High Sierra for years. It contains the same stem splitter (called "Music Rebalance"), in addition to a good number of other useful tools for cleaning and polishing audio. Give it a try.

@COLDMKULTRA 22 күн бұрын

Spot on old boy !! 👍👍👍

@listener84 21 күн бұрын

Great video! I wonder what this means for Moises paid subs you have to pay to use published music. Wonder if apple will capitalize twice on using Apple Music to bring songs into Logic to be cut up.

@MrJonnyharry 22 күн бұрын

I never would have thought to use stem splitter to extract speech from picture, to then rescore. That’s going to be great for practice

@GeoffModulate 21 күн бұрын

Have you not played with RipX in terms of stem splitting? It's been able to do this for a couple of years now and it's much more flexible than what that seemingly can do.

@AliBros 22 күн бұрын

Have they fixed the record arming issue where it by default keeps the old arm on when you choose a new track to arm?

@andymcgregortheatre 21 күн бұрын

Don't click on the R so it's not a hard red but a soft red and Logic will select the track you're on to record onto, when you move to a new track then it moves. If you click on the R and make it a solid R then it will stay the same and will stay on.

@dbindle 22 күн бұрын

New Spectral Layers 10 pro splits stems into 7 - vocal, drums, keyboard, guitar, bass, other, and non unmixed (any leftovers). This is the integration to choose when working with Cubase.

@younken24films 22 күн бұрын

Just updated Logic yesterday and separated some famous drum tracks and I agree. We knew these drummers were f'ing awesome but when you hear them ISO'd you just shake your head and realize even more how awesome they are. And I might jam along with it to come up with something new. Fun!

@jakobymaster 22 күн бұрын

The weirdest moment was when playing around with udio and generating orchestral music.. i liked the results. And admitting that was a chilling feeling.

@Harrysound 21 күн бұрын

Cubase has stem splitting. Select an audio region. Click Extensions > SpectraLayers, or go to Audio > Extensions > SpectraLayers. Spectral layers one will only be able to remove vocals but if you get the full version you can separate drums and piano and vocals and guitar and then from there even separate the drums into snare and kick.

@CirTap 22 күн бұрын

Cubase Pro already had a stem splitter built in and it got even better in the latest release (v13), so I you might not need to hop DAWs just for that 🙂 Love the rant.

@sINGLE_hANDED 22 күн бұрын

Absolutely true

@BenCaesar 21 күн бұрын

Yup! Just checking we’re talking about spectral layers right ?? But yes Cubase has had this feature ages ago

@__________hugo 18 күн бұрын

Thank you

@BrunoBrugnano 21 күн бұрын

SpectraLayers Pro 10, when used with Cubase, offers advanced sound manipulation capabilities. Notably, it introduces powerful AI-based features, including unmixing (separating vocals from backing tracks) and improved reverb reduction. Additionally, it provides voice denoising, speech separation, and transcription in multiple languages. The latest version also enhances usability with improved sliders and contextual cut/copy/paste option

@robfel68 21 күн бұрын

Please do a stem splitter shootout - Logic11 VS Cubase/Spectralayers Pro

@benbartlettmusic 14 күн бұрын

Really nice insights Christian! You are a terribly smart chap. (Apart from taking this long to abandon logic…)

@aldo34 22 күн бұрын

On harmonics, I tend to add one of two preamp plugins from a great little company called Fuse Audio Labs on most tracks. The VPRE-31A and 37C. Or possibly an Omega Transformer plugin from Kush Audio. Well priced, and they add some mojo as described. But willing to give Chroma-thingy a go. On the AI 'assistants', I think Drummer is brilliant for getting you close really quickly. So I can see me using the bass for that for some quick ideas...then exporting to MIDI fast. Really can't see me using the keys player at all.

@ryanthomas8045 20 күн бұрын

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Cubase!

@flashpest 20 күн бұрын

You are brilliant

@rockshopindustries 22 күн бұрын

Hey Christian, if you just want to split Vocals/Dialog, you can do this with standard version of Cubase in a few clicks using Spectral Layers.

@wietzejohanneskrikke1910 22 күн бұрын

Depends on which version of Cubase you have. In most cases spectral layers is a separate purchase.

@rockshopindustries 22 күн бұрын

I think Spectral Layers One came with Cubase in version 11 and after; and it will do Un-Mix Vocals. You do need the paid version to do more stem versions. Just wanted to share that the Vocal un-mixing is possible with the included version. Works really well for say taking a phone demo of a Vocal and Acoustic Guitar and splitting apart to get control over each element and building your tune from there. As long as it was a decent performance, this eliminates the need to go and record guide tracks. Kinda a nice timesaver if you build songs on the regular.

@TheCrowHillCo 21 күн бұрын

Ooooh thanks.

@tapeexperiments 18 күн бұрын

Ya, the drum iso on the Kiss is rad. Great idea on splitting stems for the demo usage.

@JohnLloydDavis 21 күн бұрын

Spot on about the role of technology in music. New things should inspire us not scare us.

@deareeMusic 22 күн бұрын

I am using 11, I use Bitwig for creation but I am mixing a ton shows I recorded during the semester at the college I work at. seems to be working well. nice little ui changes. haven't tried the keyboardist and bassist those could be fun for writing songy type songs... u know the one

@gkeaoyrge 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for putting together your views Christian. For me, one of the only slithers of hope left is perhaps the public completely turning away from anything that is either genuine AI or branded as AI when it comes to artistic creation. That and proper regulation - i.e making it law to label AI-generated material as such - I believe is one of the only ways forward for creative people that don't want to use AI for generating music.

@redwithblackstripes 22 күн бұрын

I saw that coming a mile away, glad i switched to studio one i don't need AI bloatware in my daw

@mobsiesixsixsix9785 22 күн бұрын

Ludite.

@dirlogic 5 күн бұрын

I needed my Christian fix. And this was a good one.

@osmancolak 22 күн бұрын

You have Spectralayers in Cubase working as ARA2 Extension which you can already use for stem splitting :)

@rynabuns 21 күн бұрын

there are lots of stem splitting services out there, even free ones (e.g. UVR5)

@danielel9191 21 күн бұрын

Merci Christian... You gave me hope again!

@cutseencinematics 22 күн бұрын

Hey Christian, just a heads up… the audio was quite poor on this video. Lots of noise and your voice sounded almost distorted in places.

@andygreen5565 13 күн бұрын

My guy has a $5000 mousepad. Great video.

@Keyboardnut99 17 күн бұрын

Great video stem splitter has huge creative possibilities couldn’t care less about session musicians, you cant beat the real thing!

@mokosound 21 күн бұрын

Great point about AI as a learning tool. About AI, it's technology. Technology is supposed to help us to get the technical stuff out of the way so we can focus on what we want to accomplish. This can indeed mean that a person can turn an idea into music without having to learn how to play an instrument or even how music 'works'. But as long as the expression, the musical story remains authentic I actually don't think that matters. AI can get it technically right, but al AI can really do is reproduce based on statistics. My believe is that our expression is based on more than that. For me, I'm old school so I play instruments and make my own production and engineering descicions. But I'm also excited to hear what people will do with this new technique and how it will broaden our horizon. Last point: when something becomes super easy to do it is no longer interesting. So, if that's true, music will be all about imperfection (= character) and the beautiful mistakes it will bring. Perfect music is boring, even AI can do that :)

@beatlabpro1 21 күн бұрын

Thanks, Christian. Just a few words on Intel 3,6 GHz 10-Core Intel Core i9, works fast, but it crashes accidentally too often. For 10 years of using Logic I never experienced this before. Now waiting for update :)

@ovonisamja8024 22 күн бұрын

Why is video of Casablanca playing in the project? :) Edit: Ok, I got to that part. Got it! lol

@Phenurios231 22 күн бұрын

It just occurred to me...Am I now able to take any movie clip and isolate the dialogue to have a go at scoring it myself? That is absolutely game changing for me practicing!

@BrendanByrnesMusic 22 күн бұрын

As stem splitting (and all AI stuff) keeps getting more advanced it will be interesting to see if anyone uses it to create something truly interesting or original with it, sort of like how J Dilla was able to create new rhythmic concepts and combinations of samples we hadn’t heard yet. I’m not sure that the ability to remove music from film is such a game changer as I don’t feel like there’s a shortage of visual media for beginners and students to practice on. Nice to have some more options? I’m still waiting to see something that AI does that inspires me, personally. So far, it seems like it’s just providing shortcuts, cutting the need for collaborating with other people out, and lowering the barrier to entry. That’s not all bad, just not that exciting so far. I’m sure we’ll get a tsunami of mediocre music out of it. And maybe, some interesting new music if it’s not overused or if it’s purposefully misused.

@stevesm2010 22 күн бұрын

I'm sure you know, CuBase has Spectral Layers ;-) I look forward to seeing your vid on A.I. I'm excited for the lowering of barriers with A.I. music generations, for people, particularly young people (teens and younger) to be able to create 'music' and whet their appetite for doing it themselves with physical instruments.

@wietzejohanneskrikke1910 22 күн бұрын

It's gonna do the opposite i feel

@paultwist1823 22 күн бұрын

Rantastic! Stem Splitter = Spectralayers when working in Cubase

@robjfulton 22 күн бұрын

I just loved that intro! I agree completely- logic and their team don’t care about anything anymore. I blame the tim apple team culture 😂

@fwscoringmusic6670 22 күн бұрын

My thoughts about the increasing importance of IA I'm the development of Logic Pro as a media composer: Do we have the choice to choose if we're pro or against? I think that we have to deal with it...

@strangelet4588 22 күн бұрын

I have a M1 chip and only 8 gigs of RAM. Has anyone noticed perf issues with these kinds of weaker machines when they upgraded, or did it seem that perf for basic stuff was the same or improved?

@JohnH108 22 күн бұрын

The only aspects of Logic Pro 11 that require Apple silicone are the AI functions. I have Logic Pro 11 installed on my 2017 iMac.

@zibbezabba2491 16 күн бұрын

I have been hugely impressed by the quality of logic updates over the last couple of years so I have updated with confidence. This is the first time I wish I had backed up before doing it. I want my last version back. Anyone know how I can revert back to 10.5?

@benb2694 18 күн бұрын

Love this bloke. Says it all and half of it is beeped out. Great.

@johnrichardson3297 19 күн бұрын

The Crow Hill Company, can you please do a review of your Analogue Solutions - Colossus?

@dandman2k11 22 күн бұрын

I use Artificial Insemination in my compositions almost daily, couldn't live without it

@spencerarnold669 22 күн бұрын

My favourite thing about AI is that its likely to cause some sort of backlash/rebelion against it. A lot of musicians have slept-walked into AI, using generic lyrics, chord sequences and samples whilst quantising, auto tuning and compressing the life out of every performance for the last 2 decades which has made the transition to AI so much smoother because they were acting like semi automatons anyway. Its like people not caring is a human call centre is replaced with AI because they were only reading out set replies anyway. Hopefully with the idea of young people futures in jeopardy and artist income at risk will force people to fight back with the one thing that AI doesn't have which is emotion and human connection...... until AI learns that as well I think the future of humanity's art is going to go the way of boutique fashion, tradition craftmen and organic food. That it will be the preserve of the upper middle classes as a way to show smugness haha