Christina Hoff Sommers & Sir Roger Scruton: Free speech, philosophy, and art

Christina Hoff Sommers & Sir Roger Scruton: Free speech, philosophy, and art | VIEWPOINT

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Do modern campuses actually value ideas and intellectual discourse? Should there be limits on capitalism? Is modern architecture bad? Sir Roger Scruton and Christina Hoff Sommers discuss each of these topics and more.
Sir Roger Scruton's book "Fools, Frauds, and Firebrands": goo.gl/O0YDEZ
Christina Hoff Sommers is the Factual Feminist and a resident scholar at AEI: goo.gl/ChiQYD
Sir Roger Scruton was knighted in 2016 and is a philosopher and write: www.roger-scruton.com/
Class and knighthood 1:00
Sir Roger's definition of conservatism 2:45
Responding to critics on the left 5:15
"All attempts to get rid of everything and start again... end up as genocide" 6:08
Common law versus civil law 7:30
Changes in the culture of art history 8:35
In defense of beauty 12:09
Modern architecture: "A crime against the human soul" 14:09
1960s: The baby boomers grow into immaturity 17:06
"Could we build beautiful cities without bankrupting ourselves?" 18:42
Fools, Frauds, and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left 19:06
The virtue of clarity in writing 20:12
The state of modern campuses 21:44
Freedom of speech on campus 25:30
Outrage culture will undermine friendship 27:19
I don't hate the people I disagree with, but they hate me 28:34
"Freedom is a very good horse to ride, but to ride somewhere" 30:07
Reluctant capitalist 31:59
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@DieFlabbergast 5 жыл бұрын

The entire modern world needs to be "Scrutonized" very closely!

@justagoodlifes 4 жыл бұрын

A great man Roger Scruton has left the field. Much Respect. Rest in Peace, and thank you....

@MechaJutaro 2 жыл бұрын

Let's hope he figured out that he and those who agree with him are the lone arbiters of what is and isn't art. He's within his right to not like De Koenig, just as those of us who enjoy DK's work are free to disagree with Scrunton and his ilk. If Conservatism means replacing Foucalt with Scrunton, let's not cry too many tears for his death and the death of the ideology he represented

@wolfsettgast4945 2 жыл бұрын

@@MechaJutaro HAHAHA..😂😂🤣 What a cynical comment! How is life as an underdog?😭

@cambridge123456789 7 жыл бұрын

I felt like I was sitting at the grown up table.

@Guillhez 6 жыл бұрын

cambridge123456789 such a rare feeling these days

@burleybater 6 жыл бұрын

You were!

@davidanderson9664 4 жыл бұрын

---at a retirement home for the terminally bitter maybe. D.A., NYC

@minihoney13 4 жыл бұрын

I would not be invited to that table 🤔🙁 I had to look up the word 'mansard'. 🙈

@teresaloureiro2525 4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THAT TABLE ... otherwise , BETTER a la MacDonals .

@anthonyzav3769 7 жыл бұрын

Scruton AND Hoff Sommers!!!! my god. what a day.

@mwharton838 7 жыл бұрын

Anthony Zav

@anthonyzav3769 7 жыл бұрын

Roger Scruton is fairly old now. i actually have anxiety over him passing away. who can take his place?

@soapbxprod 6 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson? Niall Ferguson? Maybe not... Roger is the last Kenneth Clark

@Mataharifilms 4 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyzav3769 fairly dead

@ayubious 7 жыл бұрын

As someone who feels disconnected with a lot of the philosophical/political extremism of my generation, you two are currently a much needed voice of reason for me. I have especially experienced the friendship problems of conversational landmines when that shouldn't be the norm at all, I've felt a great deal of anxiety in this area. Thank you for this.

@Shemdoupe 2 жыл бұрын

I've been on a huge Scruton reading binge. He was a great asset to the world and is surely missed. I hope to pick up his mantle out of respect for him. I'm making it my goal to make the world more beautiful and to show the world beauty the way he did. RIP.

@xjboy550 7 жыл бұрын

Once I would have turned to BBC R4 for great mind food like this interview but sadly those days are long gone so thankful for YT/AEI/ the great Christina and the insanely under stated and brilliant Sir Scruton

@prospero0586 7 жыл бұрын

"Mind food." Thank you so much for that phrase. I shan't forget it.

@johnlewis9158 6 жыл бұрын

its great listening to self evident truths put over so concisely and of course listening to Christina Hoff Sommers soothing voice is always a pleasure

@Cagedvole 6 жыл бұрын

sorry to be pedantic but he's Sir Roger, not Sir Scruton, because that's how it works with a knighthood. To a British ear Sir Scruton sounds ridiculous :-) Nobody could quarrel with "insanely understated and brilliant" though

@paintinglockdown7359 4 жыл бұрын

I attend Wimbledon college of art in London currently its painting Honours Degree is ranked second in the world and the statements made in this video regarding art in the contemporary world are wholly inaccurate. One of my colleagues is 19 years old and produces paintings that bare comparison with Rembrandt and the Dutch masters. Yes there are others who are of a more conceptual approach however what is not discussed in this video is the validity of examining the darker side of the human condition. Art is about celebrating the transcendental nature of life but it is equally valid for an artist to look at the opposite side of our species.

@krustomer 7 жыл бұрын

Loved that you spoke directly to us millenials! Makes us want to participate in politics knowing people care.

@obesePETE 7 жыл бұрын

having recently graduated from architecture school, i could not agree more in regards to post-modernist literature being a secret language and completely lacking in clarity.

@metatron4890 6 жыл бұрын

perry K Its obscure.

@obesePETE 6 жыл бұрын

totally dude

@LK-vv2xk 4 жыл бұрын

RIP to an intellectual giant.

@zoobee 7 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a conversation between Sir Roger and Camille Paglia

@burleybater 6 жыл бұрын

A stately ship on a storm-tossed sea, that.

@DieFlabbergast 5 жыл бұрын

Do you think he would manage to get a word in edgewise now and then?

@boorhaave5880 5 жыл бұрын

Uh huh... ok...

@gg_rider 5 жыл бұрын

Camille Paglia speaking in Georgetown pointed out that these classical English Lit writers weren't any establishment or patriarchy. Rather, Dante and others were weirdos, depressives, insane, outcasts. They developed extraordinary skills and talents of expression that became recognized by The Masses and later perhaps acknowledged by elites. Van Gogh wasn't admired except by his brother or close friends until after his death. Shakespeare (as little as I know his works) mocked the royals, hubris, and wrote in common language and slang, for the people. ------- Paglia also brought up positives and negatives about Marx & Marxists with Peterson. ------- Aayan Hirsi Ali is a person who *should* be a hero of the Left, vs dogmatic Islamic fundamentalism, but since "conservatives" such as Dubya Bush and his cheering squad attacked Iraq and others in the Middle East - partly by leveraging Islamic crazies - that drives The Left to knee jerk automatically defend those brown/olive skin non-white victims, while ignoring or denying content and context.

@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 4 жыл бұрын

She's a bit too "manic" compared to Sir Rogers calm and thoughtful manner. I think it would be a disaster.

@JorJorIvanovitch Жыл бұрын

"The principles are deduced from the particulars and not the other way around." That quote, right there, may be the best part of intellectually responsible conservatism. I say this as a center-left person who greatly respects the best parts of conservatism. Roger Scruton is a treasure.

@Brainrot-x3 7 жыл бұрын

Sir Roger, you are looking better than ever.

@sunkencubeoctahedron7844 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! Two civilized people having an intelligent conversation...what a strange sight.

@pagogo84 4 жыл бұрын

The fruits of 'mutual respect'~

@cfwintner1 2 жыл бұрын

I've loved Christina since The War Against Boys. It's nice to see she is just as sharp and lovely while interviewing as she is in print. Great listener and observer. I'm glad the KZfaq algorithm brought her interviews to me. I look forward to the rest.

@wangbot47 7 жыл бұрын

#BasedMom

@MatejCrhak 2 жыл бұрын

Genius! This is the expression i will use a lot, from now on, when describing post-modernism, marxism, nihilism, materialism and so on: *crime against the human soul*

@hamedmoradi5291 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed watching this video. Our world needs people like Roger Scruton who are deeply educated.

@fabiesque 2 жыл бұрын

2 of the most compelling people I listen to. Two heroes. What a combo. Love it particularly the bit about the modern architecture!

@machtnichtsseimann 7 жыл бұрын

Only criticism: too short of an interview.

@machtnichtsseimann 4 жыл бұрын

@Gareth Lloyd - Boooooooooo!

@TheCrusaderRabbits 3 жыл бұрын

I miss this man. I keep coming back to the well. Thanks to all his videos and books.

@timwilkinsongs 5 жыл бұрын

"Love of the things that you've inherited." Sir Roger's perfect summation.

@gastoncoquet9304 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this interview. Being a self-taught person I keep fresh my sense of awe an need of thankfulness. Thank you again for the generosity of sharing your knowledge. From Buenos Aires , Argentina.

@RatherPlayChess 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this interview with Roger Scruton!

@Sannidor 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure how fast I can get the latest book but thank you for the conversation, it was uplifting.

@WormyLeWorm 7 жыл бұрын

I love this; much of the thoughts I've had myself, especially about architecture of today and the fools reiterating jargon... everything about education... It is so refreshing to listen to people who make the same realizations.

@MatejCrhak 2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, you are never fully alone.

@ThatGaymer 7 жыл бұрын

Was wondering when you were going to upload this! Really interesting talk, kind of interested in buying his book now!

@Snakesborough 5 жыл бұрын

I'm very grateful to Sir Roger Scruton. Although I graduated from the universities of Leiden and Utrecht, I never had much liking for books about philosophy. The books of Sir Roger Scruton changed this. Many thanks and best wishes from the Netherlands.

@krileayn 7 жыл бұрын

Been waiting weeks for this. Thanks very much

@VelcroPoodle 7 жыл бұрын

thanks based mom for introducing me to this man. I'm looking forward to learning more from him.

@N_Loco_Parenthesis 4 жыл бұрын

24:27 - I just thought it was a given, what I thought when I entered uni: this place is full of PhDs and Profs, I know almost nothing, and I need to be open to learning and take greatest care over what I'm submitting to make sure I'm not wasting their time. The idea that I should come in and tell faculty what's appropriate for me and my selfhood to be learning. Urgh!

@gpknee 5 жыл бұрын

To both of you, Thank you for your work and generosity in sharing such an interesting and thoughtful conversation between yourselves, two first class scholars. I think this is required listening.

@leddywood 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this conversation. It's very soothing to hear ideas discussed reasonably and with perspective and humility, with humanity and kindness. Without histrionics, deafness, virtue signalling, censoriousness and outage. I am indeed edified. Thank you

@oudguitar 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great interview Christina, Does anyone else feel a new loosely defined center forming around the loud polarization? My fingers are crossed that 2017 will go down as the year we develop online conversational ethics which is to say you don't get a pass from the golden rule just because someone can't punch you through the screen yet. I mean when is the last time you told someone at a bar GFKYS or drink bleach? HA. I'll look forward to reading Roger's book

@bridge5999 5 жыл бұрын

Superb dialogue. Bravo. Two great minds! Thoughtful. Illuminating. Respectful. Listen, learn & emulate these wonderful individuals.

@robbie_ 6 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed listening to both of these people. Thanks for sharing.

@srinjansaha2480 3 жыл бұрын

Always heartwarming to hear Sir Roger speak.

@JoeKawano 2 жыл бұрын

“In the very depths of despair, there is beauty that redeems us!”

@tareksadmi7153 2 жыл бұрын

The Most important part of the interview was the last two minutes! I really wanted to know Sir Roger Scruton's view what can't be bought and sold.

@EmperorsNewWardrobe 4 жыл бұрын

Scruton’s wisdom focuses on the things we should celebrate, as well as the complaints that usually makeup these interviews. For this I find him particularly refreshing

@madraven07 6 жыл бұрын

Conservatives that Liberals can understand. Thanks for reducing the polarization with this talk.

@miwanwang4381 5 жыл бұрын

I like this interviewing. Christina is so nice!

@CaptCutler 6 жыл бұрын

How is it that KZfaq has managed to hide this guy from me for so long?!

@ricardopontes7177 7 жыл бұрын

Scruton 😊

@mylovelyman2 5 жыл бұрын

And the idiotic media in the UK have just got him sacked because he had the temerity to point out facts.

@nikolausgerszewski2086 Жыл бұрын

Tracy Emin's bed is BEAUTIFUL! It's honesty makes it beautiful; it is as beautiful as life itself. She is one of the great artists of our time. If you can't see that, then you're propably blinded by your own convictions.

@ronocism 7 жыл бұрын

Wow. Great discussion!

@consonantsandvowels1 6 жыл бұрын

What a charming interview

@joelkelly4154 7 жыл бұрын

My two favourite living philosophers in one video. Very nice.

@Nicolas-Kage 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this

@stoffan00 7 жыл бұрын

Love her hair!

@BadgerBotherer1 7 жыл бұрын

Roger's is not bad, either; especially for a man of his age!

@CeliaTyree 7 жыл бұрын

Stoffan2000 That's kinda sexist.

@mohann2007 7 жыл бұрын

Isolation party Your hair is sexist.

@stoffan00 7 жыл бұрын

Isolation party k

@duncefunce1513 5 жыл бұрын

It's great, yeah. This is what KZfaq comment boards are all about

@ladyrotha5420 7 жыл бұрын

*_Thirty-four minutes of Reason .....beautiful!_*

@sandorfintor 4 жыл бұрын

Thank You. You are Thee Guiding Light.

@zarkoff45 7 жыл бұрын

When listening to them talk about architecture I wondered what Sir Roger Scruton would make of the architecture seen in science fiction films like "Blade Runner", "Ghost in the Shell", or the old SF movie "Metropolis".

@peterdarley5161 7 жыл бұрын

Guess!

@Awibrahor 6 жыл бұрын

This movies are dystopian, and the architecture matches in character.

@RobSinclaire 7 жыл бұрын

This is Great - thank you!

@gerrytyrrell1507 Жыл бұрын

Courageous & brilliant RIP sir....Dublin

$@katafract2000$

@katafract2000 6 жыл бұрын

This is excellent. Sir Roger is a very great thinker.

@elysanchez6740 Жыл бұрын

I would have enjoyed a conversation from these two great thinkers on the relation between income salary and the living cost. How can people find beauty if they are struggling to live?!

@AbbeyRoad69147 7 жыл бұрын

this is really good. very impressed.

@gaz312 6 жыл бұрын

I would like to see a conversation between Sir Roger Scruton and Dr Jordan B Peterson .

@TheMitso 6 жыл бұрын

Seems to be in the works :)

@humancommunication 7 жыл бұрын

she's absolutely right about Boston city hall.

@danpatterson8009 7 жыл бұрын

Nicely lit.

@merlingeikie 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@CrankyHermit 3 жыл бұрын

Somewhere between an interview and a discussion, this was. No challenge or counterpoint, but I still enjoyed it.

@crazywazydoublehazy 4 жыл бұрын

Scruton has a wonderful way of discriminating knowledge and wisdom without being judgemental. Anyone offended by his words is lacking the open mind to receive them.

@PhenixenFeu 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Christina Hoff Sommers, for this presentation of Sir Roger Scruton, I will enjoy his style And manners as a Gentleman of high Quality...! He is Inspiring ,soft spoken and very intuitive plus he could teach men to be better & absolutely not be just navel gazer especially our own...! I think that it becomes quite unhealthy & very dangerous to be so concentrate too much in our own self...!

@Jacob011 6 жыл бұрын

Another towering intellect to delve into. And I love his shoes! :)

@dennisboyd1712 6 жыл бұрын

WOW, Love of the Actual, coming to the understanding of God's Love for us, is beautiful and part of our inheritance.

@clairerobsin 4 жыл бұрын

Edmund Burke (/ˈbɜːrk/; 12 January [NS] 1729 - 9 July 1797) was an Anglo-Irish statesman and philosopher. Born in Dublin, Burke served as a member of parliament (MP) between 1766 and 1794 in the House of Commons

@LiamPorterFilms 6 жыл бұрын

I agree entirely with everything said.

@perliva 6 жыл бұрын

Great bit about architecture!

@countryboyred 2 жыл бұрын

Two intellectual titans. Wonderful conversation.

@liammccann8763 5 жыл бұрын

I'm really not sure that Sir Roger is a Conservative, small 'c' perhaps. He seems to me a Christian, and very much one of the Anglican/Catholic persuasion. His admiration for the transcendent divine reality is striking and he encourages me to ponder the intrinsic beauty of the human person, 'created in the image'. Nar laga Dhia thu.

@eusebiusthunked5259 5 жыл бұрын

If not Scruton, then who is a Conservative? He seems to be the only one actually claiming to be a Conservative, can you clarify what you mean with the upper and lower case, and provide an example to distinguish them?

@lebimas 2 жыл бұрын

at 17:30 the closed captions should say "like a precious doll from the playbox in the attic", not "like a precious stove from the playbooks in the attic"

@BenThe-nx3le 2 жыл бұрын

💜 Mr Scrutin!

@patrickselden5747 5 жыл бұрын

Wise words...

@tbieter 5 жыл бұрын

I agree

@tomrichardson4375 7 жыл бұрын

Scrotum comes off as someone who is both sincere and genuine ; such personal integrity is in short supply these days...

@helmsscotta 6 жыл бұрын

Autocorrect is not your friend.

@boorhaave5880 5 жыл бұрын

@@helmsscotta Given how wrinkly he is now, I disagree

@leewhite344 5 жыл бұрын

@Wanterhand hilarious that you've used the word balls when the oc misnamed him Scrotum ha

@eugenemurray2940 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite line re politics From the film 'A matter of life and death' David Niven saying over the radio From his Lancaster on fire 'Conservative by nature Labor by experience'

@EdgarInventor 5 жыл бұрын

Keep it up, Roger, the Scrutniy Man.

@JeanPKlaus 7 жыл бұрын

I really love the quote because its very vindicative of today. "Artist going against their vocation". Where are the artist who take a stand say "this is my work and this is what my work intends." An Artist is a director of their vision and if you are not the artist, then you cannot direct that vision.

@johnthehumanist2333 2 жыл бұрын

Please do a vid on nancy friday!

@jla3772 3 жыл бұрын

I love Roger Scruton! "since you are so satisfied with yourself you don't need the university; here's the front door, out you go."

@reginafrants2858 3 жыл бұрын

Sir Roger, you are so sorely missed

@DieFlabbergast 5 жыл бұрын

"The Baby Boom generation grew into immaturity." How very well put! I was there: I was one of them. May succeeding generations forgive us!

@countryboyred 2 жыл бұрын

As a millennial, I forgive the baby boomers. Forgive us as well, for we are not any better. Hopefully society doesn’t completely collapse.

@williamf.buckleyjr3227 6 жыл бұрын

A question of video aesthetics just occurred to me: Why is it that in so many of these videos anymore, the viewer's eyes are distracted by the guts of the studio?? The lights, the mikes, the random clutter on the floor...when did this technique come about??

@azzym8794 7 жыл бұрын

*Christina Is about my age and I am head over heels in love with her* P.S. Edited (Christina's name corrected) on Ms Emily Rosa's advice.

@EmilyRose0 7 жыл бұрын

Your so in love with her that you don't even know her name.

@azzym8794 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Ms Rose. I do get carried away. I will edit to correct. Thanks.

@EmilyRose0 7 жыл бұрын

"On Ms Emily Rosa's advice" ROFL there we go again.

@azzym8794 7 жыл бұрын

*English is not my native language. It is the fifth language I learned later in college. If you have noted another faux pas I will appreciate if you will deign to correct me.

@EmilyRose0 7 жыл бұрын

Its fine, I even thought you did it on purpose to troll me ;)

@Rustsamurai1 5 жыл бұрын

little contemplation on Sir Roger's last comment.

@edwardkirkhope9072 7 жыл бұрын

It is perfectly obvious that many students today are not suited to the intellectual environment a University fosters. The whole point is one is exposed to a wealth of ideas and thoughts that require effort to understand and meaningfully explain. All sorts of information is there to be sought, marshalled and utilised to help one understand the world we live in. Why do we think the way we do? How did we get here?! What do we know about our ancestors? What can we reliably now about them? What knowledge matters? What is knowledge? How has the past shaped our world today? Why does my society have certain rules? Do we need rules? Should we offend people? Do we have a duty to offend? Is offending people disgraceful? What matters in life? Who should we listen to? Etc etc etc. A mature person asks questions and listens to the answers and tries to understand what answers are important. Too many students have no concern for freedom of speech and are determined to be offended. They will learn if they adopt some humility.

@mfsperring 7 жыл бұрын

Very interesting man but I can't stop thinking of Peter O'Toole. Lol

@hexum7 7 жыл бұрын

Why did Endora change her make-up?

@Adam-Friended 7 жыл бұрын

Liberty, yo! FREEDOM!!!!

@Maelli535 5 жыл бұрын

On architecture: How does Norman Foster get away with buildings like the Gherkin that waste enormous amounts of the clients space? Shearly his fame (or is "notoriety" the better word?), I would guess.

@no_namematrix8630 4 жыл бұрын

I don't want to make this weird but these are some good looking old people!!!

@nikeisagreekgoddess4135 6 жыл бұрын

21:54 - 22:05 Shouldn't that be part of our analysis of the past though? Why should the past be assumed to have only accurate lessons?

@OmPrakash-cq4mz 4 жыл бұрын

What a piece of man !

@Marmocet 6 жыл бұрын

I just looked up Boston City Hall. That is one monstrously ugly building indeed. There are lots more like it. It's almost as though there is a camp of modern architects who are bitter, resentful people who delight in plopping these hideous buildings in the middle of beautiful spaces. EDIT: Upon further reading, I discovered it was designed in 1962. No surprise there. Just about every building designed and built in the 1960s and 1970s is a monument to ugliness that should be razed.

@Colleens-Corner Жыл бұрын

I like the 70’s look 😂

@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 2 жыл бұрын

The people Sir Roger is talking about (angry student activists and their elders lost in post-modernist LARPing and experimentation) would be outraged at how Sir Roger-- in their view-- mischaracterised their behaviour and central impetus. See, THEY don't feel they're mindlessly destroying that which they oppose. They don't feel they are only advertising what they dislike and not showing what they love. Quite the opposite. They feel they are passionately protecting all they love from the forces which threaten its beautiful bloom and progression (personal freedom, sexual revolution, experimenting with identity, socialism, half-baked belief in Utopia, equality, minority groups in their country who need advocacy, connection of people all over the globe, the environment etc). Anything that threatens THEIR version of conserving and nurturing the things which THEY value is deemed immediately to come from wrong side of history' and they fight it in order to conserve THEIR values and skewed world view. They don't see it that way of course and seeing every point from their point of view was such fun-- I was playing Devil's Advocate the whole way through this great interview as if my life depended on it. Great fun and I highly recommend people go 'undercover' and try and see how well they can stealthily merge with their ideological, philosophical or political adversaries and truly understand how they'd react or deal with things in debate. Thank you for this upload, much better than a crossword puzzle when it comes to mental exercise. :)

@senglomein5766 2 жыл бұрын

I agree that one of the main functions of art is to reconcile our tragic existence through the beauty of a new perspective. What I don't agree with Roger on is his assumption that its all antagonistic to tradition. There were a few mid-century movements like Gutai in Japan or the New York School (abstract expressionsts) which derive from a counter-culture perspective, but over the years just like most things: they have found their place within society. No longer are these recieved as something repulsive or disgraceful, rather, just like classical painting, a unique take on the same thing we call life

@TeaParty1776 Жыл бұрын

>reconcile our tragic existence Reconcile to what? Why,basically, tragic?