We Made A Modular Espresso Machine

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Chronova Engineering

Chronova Engineering

Жыл бұрын

In this video, we introduce the Epoch manual espresso machine, and share some of our design and manufacturing process.
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@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, thanks for checking out our video! If you have any questions about the espresso machine, let us know in the comments below.
@aarondavidson6409
@aarondavidson6409 Жыл бұрын
There should be an option to pin this to the top of the comment feed :) Amazing work, looking forward to hearing more!
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын
Where are based/from Chronova?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Jane, we’re based in Hampshire, England.
@smartwatchonpluto
@smartwatchonpluto Жыл бұрын
You could easily make a activated charcoal water filter from this.
@nightowl9792
@nightowl9792 Жыл бұрын
I am appalled to see that you are charging £750 for one of these units, not even assembled, or with a base or handle! That’s almost double the price of the aram and the robot, which are almost identical to your designs… plus, that’s the kickstarter price, so there isn’t even any guarantee that you’ll send the products!😢 how can you possibly justify such an outrageous price?
@MrCrazyChemist
@MrCrazyChemist Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could send one to James Hoffman, maybe he'll review it and give you lots of exposure.
@kajetanjawr995
@kajetanjawr995 Жыл бұрын
thought the same thing xd
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
We will reach out to him and see if he’s interested. Thanks for the suggestion!
@nathanfauvette2151
@nathanfauvette2151 Жыл бұрын
There's little to no chance he will, he doesn't do Kickstarter projects as far as I know, Lance Hedrick might though.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness Жыл бұрын
@@nathanfauvette2151 He's reviewed or participated in a few.
@felicityfoo6240
@felicityfoo6240 Жыл бұрын
@@weatheranddarkness I believe the kickstarter campaigns he has reviewed are mostly posted years/months after the product has been released. If not mistaken, he reviews product variations that the end consumer receives to have an accurate user experience
@TheBookDoctor
@TheBookDoctor Жыл бұрын
Genius pressure gauge. I love really clever designs like that which turn "unwanted" aspects of materials into something useful.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness Жыл бұрын
It's the same theory as a torque wrench. Which in a way is the same concept as how a mechanical dial gauge works too, just with parts at different scales.
@gelo1238
@gelo1238 Жыл бұрын
I think this was used in early torque wrenches
@lephtovermeet
@lephtovermeet Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly quite impressed with your manual machining ability. Those are some high precision old school techniques and I'm glad people still remember and use them.
@QWEEKEN73
@QWEEKEN73 Жыл бұрын
That is so cool! I think the use of fundamental application of physics over a need for gauges is such a neat idea. Interested in seeing where this goes!
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 Жыл бұрын
Did I watch a 17 minute ad for a nearly $1000 machine that doesn't even ship to my country the same day I purchased a semiauto espresso maker? Yes I did.
@canowyrms
@canowyrms Жыл бұрын
These look like fantastic products - a lovely intersection of engineering and coffee. I love that end-user DIY is so highly considered and accommodated. I would love to see James Hoffmann give these a go - please see if you can get in touch with him!
@error.418
@error.418 Жыл бұрын
Or Lance Hedrick for that matter
@Myrkskog
@Myrkskog Жыл бұрын
As a furniture maker and woodturner and someone that has long been tempted with mechanical coffee machines, this is so cool. I look forward to it's release!
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 8 ай бұрын
The torque wrench design for estimating pressure is really clever. I love it
@SwervingLemon
@SwervingLemon 19 күн бұрын
Except that it can't possibly relate the actual chamber pressure based on applied torque. There's too many variables that affect how much input torque you might need to get to eight or nine BAR in the helix machine. Less of a problem on the fulcrum machine, but still not a substitute for a direct pressure reading.
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 19 күн бұрын
@@SwervingLemon thus the word, "estimating." 😉
@SantiagoLuz
@SantiagoLuz Жыл бұрын
All of this is fascinating! Impressive! You solved two main issues of ARAM espresso machine that bothered me the most. Water temperature and pressure reading - this one in such elegant way!!! Awesome!
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool 4 ай бұрын
Amazing, really cool to see all the engineering details, I’d definitely pick one up whenever they become available
@latui7350
@latui7350 3 ай бұрын
This is so wonderful!
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 Жыл бұрын
I *LIVE* for well-engineered mechanical devices with elegant simplicity. I wish your team all the success you deserve!
@jaguirre940
@jaguirre940 8 ай бұрын
looks amazing and really enjoyed the assembly/explanation bit it honestly looks like joy to use and cant wait to replace my faulty delonghi with this!!
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
The Helix is a eureka moment; it could make this wonderfully accessible to users with limited upper body strength or mobility.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын
Its a copy of Spinspro, a manual helix espresso machine.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын
Actually, there seemed to be even an earlier version. Aram Espresso Maker, it was featured on James Hoffman channel. Its identical to this, even in shape.
@TheBrokenEclipse
@TheBrokenEclipse Жыл бұрын
I love the thoughtfulness and the simplicity you have given the design.
@user-vl1xv1tu8n
@user-vl1xv1tu8n Жыл бұрын
Perfect !
@benjaminabbottscott
@benjaminabbottscott 7 ай бұрын
Gorgeous.
@johnmoorefilm
@johnmoorefilm Жыл бұрын
Lovely stuff will do
@koyomifebius3219
@koyomifebius3219 8 ай бұрын
All i can say is impressive!
@igordemetriusalencar5861
@igordemetriusalencar5861 Жыл бұрын
I love my Aram!! I will check it out, I see the inspiration.
@cosmomaker
@cosmomaker 28 күн бұрын
Great product 👏👏👏🚀
@J.C...
@J.C... Жыл бұрын
Nice bookmatch! 👌
@reeciep
@reeciep Жыл бұрын
James Hoffman reviewed the Aram Espresso Maker about 3 years ago which uses a principle similar to the Helix
@JoshuaRilliet
@JoshuaRilliet 4 ай бұрын
Bonjour, je ne suis pas amateur de café ni de thé mais vos machines je les trouve magnifique, superbement réalisées, un savant mélange de beaux matériaux et de belle technologie certes "simple" mais d'une efficacité redoutable. Bravo et merci pour la vidéo explicative de la construction, l'ancien chaudronnier/mécanicien en tous genres que j'étais, apprécie de regarder ce genre de vidéos bien filmées, bien montées et agréables à visionner.
@IOUaUsername
@IOUaUsername Ай бұрын
I want one of these that mounts to the kitchen sink or bench like a faucet/tap as a fixture in the kitchen. It would pair beautifully with a boiling water tap system. Maybe a hydraulic pedal tucked under the cabinetry at floor level. Baby oil is food safe (just upsets your stomach) and used in mountain bike brakes.
@BenJoelLush
@BenJoelLush Жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@jalfredprufrock1915
@jalfredprufrock1915 7 ай бұрын
This deserves to be open source
@CaptZenPetabyte
@CaptZenPetabyte Жыл бұрын
Seriously #wishlist ❤
@onlooker774
@onlooker774 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing it mass production...
@hohinlam7996
@hohinlam7996 Жыл бұрын
engine bros for the win love it
@_brutalista
@_brutalista 2 ай бұрын
Looks very interesting, I would seriously consider this if it's in my price range. I like things that are built with an intent to last.
@The88Cheat
@The88Cheat 11 ай бұрын
So. Cool.
@liamosuilleabhain9965
@liamosuilleabhain9965 Жыл бұрын
I presume it's already addressed in following versions, but the cuts at 5:59 could cause some fatiguing at the corners. Lovely machine.
@patkirk960
@patkirk960 Жыл бұрын
Bothered me too. Radius at the ends of the thinned section is a must
@generalfeed123
@generalfeed123 9 ай бұрын
love the idea just wish it was in my price range
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for James Hoffman to get his hands on this
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын
Several similar design in aliexpress, not sure where the novelty lies? In the helix design maybe?
@methylmike
@methylmike Жыл бұрын
Uhhh, guys, holy shit! This is art
@FURIOUSAM31
@FURIOUSAM31 Ай бұрын
I'm Italian this looks great
@Rickard05
@Rickard05 Ай бұрын
GOD I WANT ONE
@POTThaesslich
@POTThaesslich Жыл бұрын
beautiful design, the pressure gauge works similarly to a torque wrench I have for my bike. Great product, alas I fear it'll be outside my price range.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
Beautifully designed and executed. An inspirational pair of espresso machines. Good luck with the Kickstarter campaign 👏👏👍😀
@btudrus
@btudrus Жыл бұрын
Is it plastics inside - that white cylinder? If so, do you have a better alternative, maybe?
@BillBroadley
@BillBroadley Жыл бұрын
Certainly looks like it, I read the kickstarter page, some forums, and watched the youtube videos and couldn't find anywhere that mentioned the material.
@ll-tb2tg
@ll-tb2tg 9 ай бұрын
will these be for sale to the general public after the kickstarter? The epoch helix looks like the best manual machine I've ever seen! Wish the algorithm had shown this video to me sooner
@amirmwsc
@amirmwsc Жыл бұрын
very interesting
@cascaderetriever7618
@cascaderetriever7618 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful! I want one! the plastic cylinder liner scares me. So many plastics leach pfas and stuff into hit fluids. Will it be available in stainless liner?
@binder946
@binder946 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact you designed a simple durable machine that can last over many generations. I really think it should be bought back the art of forever machines with multi generational life.
@champs1076
@champs1076 10 ай бұрын
Wow that's "Aram" 2.0 - impressive 👏Also, I don't bother if it has some eletric component in it, like in the Flair58 for pre-heating the system ☕
@dator36
@dator36 11 ай бұрын
Do you think you'd be able to design a box to disassemble the press and store it easily for travel?
@DeLucaEspressoRepair
@DeLucaEspressoRepair 7 ай бұрын
I would close to try this machine ☕
@user-qk9yd1rb5g
@user-qk9yd1rb5g Жыл бұрын
將成為一個 精美 實用 收藏品
@08yannch
@08yannch Жыл бұрын
last generations? uses custom one way valve when it wears out replacement will be all but impossible, aluminium torque bar with no way of re-calibrating (aluminium being less than ideal as cyclic loading will have a grater effect as compared to a ferrous metal), custom pivot bushing sure it will have a long service life but if it is damaged during service or use it will be all but impossible to replace, and custom lead nut i like how you glossed over this part in you're video leading me to believe you are aware of its shortcomings.
@bertusbob
@bertusbob Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@playmaka2007
@playmaka2007 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see James Hoffman get his hands on this!
@wazzup105
@wazzup105 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@jslanfranchi
@jslanfranchi Жыл бұрын
Interested to see how this goes! Good luck to you, very smart approach to the pressure gauge.
@cricocoo
@cricocoo Жыл бұрын
Instead of kickstarter, maybe you could organize full week workshops for people to learn metalworking, woodworking, espressoworking and end up with their own personal machine. Good luck!
@phpn99
@phpn99 Ай бұрын
We now need James Hoffmann to review the designs
@KarooD
@KarooD 9 ай бұрын
A very inspiring design - congratulations! A query: Does the metal piston ( and conrod ) result in any significant heat loss; and, if so, would a more efficient material for these components perhaps be preferable? This would minimize the preheat cycles required; especially in a camping/camper environment.
@allenng2348
@allenng2348 Жыл бұрын
Saw this and got excited...went to their website and saw their other work (a good sign for a KS campaign)...then saw that their other work is all €5,000 - €10,000...not hopeful that this will be at a price point in which I'll still be interested. :-(
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob Жыл бұрын
£750.
@evrythingis1
@evrythingis1 Жыл бұрын
@@Plan3tBob And makes coffee worse than a $15 french press LOL
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob Жыл бұрын
@@evrythingis1 :( Shame it is so expensive too as I love the idea of what it is and how it's made. However I couldn't justify the cost and if I did go for a manual it would likely be something which is on version 3-4 by now to iron out the kinks.
@brandonb417
@brandonb417 Жыл бұрын
Two questions: 1) Why would there be a higher concentration of water in the center of a larger, 58mm, basket when water always seeks level, and pressure does not favor one side or the other, it is a uniform force over an area, the only time you get uneven distribution is in flow where wall friction reduces flow at the edges, I can't imagine flow is so high it would cause this. 2) For forces, couldn't the mechanical advantage just be increased to make it easier to pull the shot? Seems like the large amount of accessories for 58mm filter baskets would push a move toward that end, such as a jack leveler. I've been using one of those with my double boiler machine and it is a life saver.
@MassDynamic
@MassDynamic Жыл бұрын
sometimes a simple machine is the best machine.
@benzac119
@benzac119 Жыл бұрын
Really love what you guys did. Not just only highlight the craft and care that goes behind the the product but also manage to be completely honest about how it work and how it will deliver. Very rare for kickstarter project indeed.
@SantiagoLuz
@SantiagoLuz Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!! This is fascinating!
@user-yj6nb2xl3g
@user-yj6nb2xl3g Жыл бұрын
James Hoffman = Heat Managment
@PeterSpringhall
@PeterSpringhall 6 ай бұрын
Looks very interesting but I’m too late for kickstarter. When do you think the lever version would go into production?
@JeffRAllenCH
@JeffRAllenCH Жыл бұрын
Made me thirsty for s coffee just watching it! Looking forward to ordering one.
@danielzaytsev644
@danielzaytsev644 Жыл бұрын
any idea when it might launc? very cool product and very cool video!
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, the campaign is now live on Kickstarter: www.kickstarter.com/projects/chronovaengineering/epoch-the-modular-manual-espresso-machine
@error.418
@error.418 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my very first concern was temperature control. Glad you discussed it, but would certainly like to hear more.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Username, we have some additional temperature tests planned, from which the detailed results will be published on the Kickstarter page.
@error.418
@error.418 Жыл бұрын
@@chronovaengineering Super appreciate it, thank you!
@1943vermork
@1943vermork Жыл бұрын
I stopped using ROK espresso lever machine because of the lack of pressure gauge and poor temperature stability. I’m now using Flair 58 equipped with the heating element and fitted a temperature probe to make sure I’m pulling a shot at 94C. And even with all that, there is quite a learning curve and tricks to use for the heat consistency. Also, I highly recommend using a puck screen. Lever machine destroy the puck when transferring the water from top to bottom. Else you end up with crazy channeling and a dirty mess to clean. Love the screw system but I can already see it will most likely be too slow when priming the piston (losing heat and time) and then purging after. Manual lever machine are quite time consuming when used regularly.
@moyanoarturo
@moyanoarturo 10 күн бұрын
Amazing design! I have a question, how do you atacch the screen shower and gasket to the cilinder? Thanks!!
@cjfthistle
@cjfthistle Жыл бұрын
Please, can you give us an idea of price? Even a ballpark figure? I need to know if I can afford to dream of owning one!
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher, we’ll be offering several tiers ranging from DIY kits priced around £750 up to £3000 for personalised machines. One of the middle price tiers will be a finished machine for around £950.
@michaeldimmitt2188
@michaeldimmitt2188 Жыл бұрын
@@chronovaengineering Thank you for a clear answer. It really helps us dreamers!
@elitedeciel
@elitedeciel Жыл бұрын
@@chronovaengineering Though I really think this is going to be great product, it's above my current budget. But it's a beautiful design!
@lorimcquinn3966
@lorimcquinn3966 Жыл бұрын
@@chronovaengineering The pricing is very close to established market options which have established parts back-up and no PTFE chamber. I'll have to pass although it's interesting to say the least. Good luck.
@kevingrant5904
@kevingrant5904 Жыл бұрын
I would love to buy one of the lever press ones. I hope your kickstarter works out. I’ll definitely buy
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, thanks for your support! The Kickstarter is now live and accepting pledges: www.kickstarter.com/projects/chronovaengineering/epoch-the-modular-manual-espresso-machine
@micmike
@micmike Жыл бұрын
Nice, it would be a great project to build the entire press.
@TomatePasFraiche
@TomatePasFraiche Жыл бұрын
Ah man, I'd love one of those but too expensive for me. Good luck with the project, it looks amazing already!
@paulie-g
@paulie-g Жыл бұрын
They're too expensive for anyone, period. $1200 is robbery unless you consider this an object d'art. You can get an excellent pro-level machine with a manual lever for that money.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Жыл бұрын
@@paulie-g Not for poor people, that's for sure. But they will sell thousands nonetheless. The kind of people who spend three grand on a boiling water tap aren't going to blink an eye at this. Once one person in a wealthy circle buys one, they'll all have to have one.
@dreamvisionary
@dreamvisionary Жыл бұрын
Beautiful looking machines.
@JustTony72
@JustTony72 Жыл бұрын
As a manual espresso lover. This is deeply satisfying
@coffee201
@coffee201 Жыл бұрын
This looks fantastic
@petrokemikal
@petrokemikal Жыл бұрын
Lovely piece of engineering !!
@abdulhamidwalidabdulhamid2353
@abdulhamidwalidabdulhamid2353 Жыл бұрын
The hand drill.
@The_Loathsome
@The_Loathsome Жыл бұрын
This looks amazing. I would consider having an option for an unstained and unfinished handles. I sanded the lacquer off my Flair 58 handle and put a mix of rosewood/Purple Heart stain on it and it absolutely pops.
@superbanaan8175
@superbanaan8175 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video for enthusiasts, no nonsense and lets the machine speak for itself. I think most people are somewhat sceptical with these kinds of machines with the common pressure and temperature difficulties, both tackled in the first 5 minutes. Really exciting, would love to see an independent review as well.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks Superbanaan! “My Coffee Show” put out a first impressions video from the London Coffee Festival if that helps: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fd6Ed8iXtKepfmg.html We’ve requested a review from several other UK coffee KZfaqrs but we’re still waiting to hear back from them.
@blantonator
@blantonator Жыл бұрын
@@chronovaengineering you need James Hoffmans approval for sure.
@zconiglietti
@zconiglietti Жыл бұрын
What's the white cylinder made out of?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Dusan, the cylinder liner is food-safe PTFE.
@chornykot03
@chornykot03 Жыл бұрын
looks great, how much water can fit into the tank?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Leonid, the max volume is approximately 90ml.
@Ti_Flame
@Ti_Flame Жыл бұрын
Is the Material only in prototyping Out of Aluminium?
@Nasin_Racing
@Nasin_Racing 11 ай бұрын
I love your design idea and I'm interested to buy one for using in my home. May I ask about the price and do you shipping to another country ? . Thank you very much 😊
@warmooze
@warmooze Жыл бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous piece of engineering, but why does it lock the wrong way?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi warmooze, our machines are compatible with La Pavoni portafilters, which lock right-to-left.
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous. Brilliant ideas and designs. I notice that when you lock in the coffee grounds holders that it turns counter-clockwise. I find that very counter intuitive. Certainly counter intuitive to the machine that I'm accustomed to. As for mounting bases and your comment regarding narrow boats, you could also make a bulkhead mount to keep it off the counter entirely.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment David. We opted for the counter-clockwise lock to maintain compatibility with La Pavoni portafilters, which also lock this way. Great suggestion re bulkhead mount. We will look into that if there is enough interest.
@MasterOfNone2023
@MasterOfNone2023 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing piece of design and engineering. Will you be making the plans available for purchase? I'd love to try making one once I finish getting my shop set up for machining
@paulie-g
@paulie-g Жыл бұрын
They're charging $1200 for it, so my guess is a big, fat "no". Yes, it's well-engineered and well-machined, but the price is insane.
@rharris22222
@rharris22222 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of a direct cylinder espresso machine today. I was imaging two possibilities for water entry. One was a standard spring check valve, which would be much less elegant than yours. The other was a pair of side ports similar to a two-stroke engine. One for entry and one for overflow. All that to say that I have given the design problem at least a little thought and I really admire your solution!
@HauntedSheppard
@HauntedSheppard Жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@cadthunkin
@cadthunkin Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel a few days ago. Every video is so good. I'd like to know more about the electronics behind the little cnc mill you did. I've used arduinos for 3d printers but you mentioned a cnc shield. thx
@CHGLongStone
@CHGLongStone Жыл бұрын
Great piece of engineering 🤝
@hevancleifrasson5923
@hevancleifrasson5923 5 ай бұрын
Aram espresso sends a hug
@jonaskuhn4001
@jonaskuhn4001 8 ай бұрын
Is there any difference to the Flair?
@pigetstuck
@pigetstuck Жыл бұрын
plastic liner?
@noberubes
@noberubes Жыл бұрын
What is the water chamber made from? What would be the max shot volume of water?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Philip, the inside of the chamber is food safe PTFE (aka Teflon) and the maximum chamber volume is around 90ml. Hope that helps!
@tom9836
@tom9836 11 ай бұрын
can the height be higher to allow more space for a digital scale + cup under the basket?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering 11 ай бұрын
Hi Tom, yes, one of the optional add-ons is a riser block which increases the clearance under the basket.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness Жыл бұрын
I don't know about doing threaded grub screws on plastic though.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Жыл бұрын
The grub screws only apply a very light pressure on the plastic. They locate in the groove in the liner to prevent creep over time. The liner is predominantly held in place by the group seal and portafilter.
@a-aron2276
@a-aron2276 Жыл бұрын
The pressure readout is ingenious.
@LyndanTylor
@LyndanTylor 5 ай бұрын
Is there a away to buy this since the Kickstarter is over?
@ChrisKramer_
@ChrisKramer_ Ай бұрын
Where can we buy one of these?
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