If pattern density is even close, you definitely want to use the larger 4 buck over BB for coyotes. The much greater downrange pellet energy of 4 buck will kill coyotes a lot farther than BB's.

Fantastic video. This information is great. Far to many people never take the time to pattern their shotgun and it's ever bit as important as sighting in your rifle.

Thank you for your time and effort, good info and camera work!

Great video! I have been reaching Coyote rounds all night and this has been by far the most informative/accurate I’ve seen yet. Like the way you think and thanks!

Awesome video! I’m so glad you didn’t include the heavier than lead loads since they cost so much. I do most of my calling in Arkansas and found out there was a law against shotgunning coyotes with buckshot sizes. I spent a lot of time hunting with the Winchester BB. Thankfully that law has just changed so I can use #4 buckshot. Now I’ll load the first 2 shots as Winchester BB and the rest as #4 buck

So much cool info and funny stuff great man! Keep making more videos

Hornady heavy Magnum coyote BB 3" I found is the best for my shotgun. I can usually roll them at 50-60 yards. A pump shotgun is the way to go. I think they hold a better pattern than a semi and it's more consistent

Excellent show brother. I've been calling foxes, coyotes and bobcat for over 4 decades and primarily just using the shotgun the past 15 or so. I've taken them with everything from #6 20 guage high brass to 00 12 buck. For me here in eastern Kentucky the #4 buck has definitely been the winner. I've never felt the need for the heavier than lead stuff because I've killed them at ridiculous ranges with #4 buck. While that's not the normal it can be done and I'd never believed some of those kills had I not done it myself. Thanks for the smooth bore love and God bless.

That bb at 50 yards definitely puts them down. I would try a different choke because I'm telling you that's the stuff to run. I love it and I made the switch a few years ago after using exclusively #4 buck

Good review. Still relevant info years later

to save on the sheets you could mark first shot drawing triangles per hole.. then next shot on same sheet is known

That very 1st shot is a damn EXCELLENT pattern...

Thanks for the video. Some good info there. I did call Hornady to check how much of a difference that choke would make and they confirmed as you mentioned that it would have an impact because of the wad cup. Ben Smith below probably has the best idea as they said it needs to be used with an open choke and they also mentioned that it would work good with an IC choke. If you ever run this test again would love to see how the results differ between the chokes. Anyway, thanks again and you got a subscriber. Appreciate your good work.

Good video as always I like that varmint X w/shot-lok I patterned my Mossy 500 w/a Carlsons turkey choke made for the Winchester triple beard w/shot-lok using the varmint X w/shot-lok out to 75 yds did ok but that 55 was nice keep up the good work thx

Looks like my backyard! Minus the Sauguaro cactus, great video, I use 3 inch magnum Hevi shot in BBs and works great with a Carlson dead coyote choke tube, give it a try! Tony Parrish...Douglas AZ

I found that the Hornady Magnum Coyote didn't like a ported choke tube(similar wad to Federal Flight Control). I tried the Carlson's .660 Longbeard choke in my Winchester and the Carlson's .660 non-ported turkey choke and the Hornady really liked the non-ported choke. I am going to try the Winchester Varmint X BB to see how it patterns. I tried an improved, modified and full choke also.

The cooper and nickel plating keeps the shot from balling up in the fur also. From experience, the standard lead sometimes rolls up in the hair and never penetrates.

Awesome video... Thank you for taking the time and expense to test those rounds. The Varmint X round is what drew me to this video. I've been interested in this round and this is another video showing a great pattern for that round... I can't find any locally though. One comment on the approach though.. For a fair comparison though, the Federal premium (orange box) should have been shot with an IC choke... It's really the wad design that sets that round apart. It's got a rear braking wad that slows the separation of the shot from the wad and keeps it together longer for tighter down range patterns.... A full or tighter chock mangles the wad and defeats it purpose. Any chance the next time your at the range you could try the Federal Premium with an IC choke at the 30 and 50 yards and compare to these patterns? Thanks... I've liked and subscribed!

federal flite control #1 buckshot is my do all for everything. from coyotes and bobcats to self defense load, it performs and patterns great.

I use Hornady B.B. thru a skeet choke and have a killing pattern at 45-50. With full it’s a terrible pattern at 35. Full choke defeats the purpose on the wad cup. Same for Federal Flite Control rounds. IC of Skeet.

I'm actually trying to learn and this video helping me very helpful

Way to go 12B! I load lead T-buck(.200) for predators up here in Minnesota.

Made my first shotgun kill on a coyote yesterday with Varmint x yesterday. Bang flop not a twitch, I'd guess 30 to 40 yards on the shot. I am using an 870 with an undertaker turkey choke. 30 inch pattern at 50 yards. Good stuff!

I'm using Hevi-Shot 3.5in Dead Coyote T-shot and a JEBs .660 Headhunter... I take shots out to 70 very often, it's a great set-up, but very costly.

Great video. In Ireland we used to have hound driven hunts for foxes to guns. 3" #2 birdshot was deadly out to 50 yards easy. #4 buck held a nice pattern wonder how it would perform against a whitetail doe.

I don't use them for Coyote but that 41 pellet of 4 bk Remington load shoots amazing patterns in my cylinder bore tactical Mossberg 930. I consistently got all 41 on a four foot square of paper at thirty yards with them. The three inch triple ought shoots amazing out of my tactical too. Everyone I've ever seen do these tests proved the Hornaday loads are all pretty poor. I got the same results with them.

Morning CIC....Great and well thought out video, thanks. I'm curious if you've killed any coyotes at the 50 yard mark with your choice of Winchester BB's. I ask because I'm curious about the penetration at that distance. For me, I would have chosen the # 4 buckshot in spite of the lower pellet count because more is only better if the "more" gives the desired penetration needed. Perhaps the BB's will, I honestly don't know, but at 50 yards I have some doubt....Thanks again for taking the time to publish this vid. Mark.

Nice to see a shot pattern break down by shell over distances. Good information. I shoot a modified most of the time. Thanks for sharing.

Iv been killing song dogs with the hornady magnum coyote BB for 2 seasons now and it kills them dead quick every time! Still love a straight #4 buck but the hornadys really take the cake! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘

The Hornady bb needs a cylinder or IM choke, you see a massive difference in pattern.

as a old killer of wily 2 3/4 in a long barrel never in a 3 for double ott

Due to the laws where I'm from I can only use BB lead or steel shot size F for coyotes. since this video have you taken any coyotes with the winchester BB shot? And if so at what distance. Was it effective etc.

Not every choke out the lends itself equally to improving shot patterns. It's very much a tailored setup when you find a combination. One gun one choke just shows what patterns well for your setup. You want to knock a predator down and you get shots around 50 yards toss a slug downrange instead of bb rounds.

Choke, Choke, Choke...I tried 7-8 diff chokes in my moss berg 835 before I found extra full turkey choke by H.S. 3.5" rem 00 was 18' group at 30 yds. 3.5" winchester #4 buck was 24" group at 30 yds. taken yotes out to 80 yds behind the dogs. still good review

Which of those 4 rounds has the least amount of recoil and blast? Not looking to kill myself with recoil. And the one that recoils the least, how would you compare it to? Like similar to a 2 3/4" buckshot load?

I have my mossberg 500 but my barrel is ported 🤔 do I need a rifled barrel or do I just need to adjust my choke ?

I know that you are using the SBE, but I was wondering what barrel length you have? I am going to invest in a shotgun strictly for coyotes and would like your input please. Thanks in advance.

King of the castle!

Nice video. Appreciate the info. May I ask which Kicks choke were you using?

Everything looked left adjust your red dot or get rid of it and shoot straight barrel & bead it's only 59 yards.

I’ve always felt Remington 4 buck is best out there

I believe those hornady rounds have flight control wads in them should try them again through cylinder choke tighter choke will actually make them shoot worse

Great Review thank you 👍 🇺🇲 The Vermonter

Hey , what is the exact name of the winchester and rem rounds ? Are they the varmint x winchester 3" bb lead ? Thank u just trying to confirm

What are your thoughts on 12 gauge 3in heavy shot #2 for coyotes?

What kind of gun setup is this? I've never seen the red dot mounted on the stock like that? What kind of choke is this?

good video

Great video SAPPER. #EngineersLeadTheWay

One other important question is what choke tube are you using

I didn't catch what choke size constriction you were using.

Never put 00 buck through an extra full choke...it just causes pellet deformation and that's why you have the bad pattern🙄

Would it be ok to use your final tally board graphic in one of my own videos. This gives me a good base to see if improvement with other ammos and chokes is possible. Thx

Did you ever try the hornady stuff with a modified or improved cylinder choke?

what shotgun are you using? I like the camo pattern on it.

You need a full size pickup!

4buck no brainer. But with turkey choke the varmint x looks promising

What is equally important that no one seems to talk about or think of is what does the shot that your using do on impact? You may have more shot hitting a paper box but how many are penatrating deep enough to be lethal. Myself I did mostly the same testing but shot 4 different chokes as well feeling yes it's my gun not yours but if I do get a shot I want to be as deadly as possible. I'm no expert an just one opinion with so many others. When you have a round ball pushing through verse a sharp edge also cutting much like a broad head you will have less bloodshot areas an more bleed out an deeper penetration if its slicing much like a knife or broadhead the Federal Black Cloud which myself I shot for everything now furs, upland, waterfowl. My opinion only. I have faster an more clean kills works very good I'm not a weekend warrior but hunt for a living an thought I would share what I have learned over 35 years being a guide an wasting thousands of dollars on the newest an greatest Happy holidays.

What choke tube are you using?? Great video

What back sight are you looking through?

What about changing your choke at 50 yds?

What kind of choke were you using?

What size choke are you using?

I was told by old time coyote hunters bb has a better chance getting through the fur. buckshot can ball up.

Are you in the Phoenix area?

What choke are you running?

should of started at 50 yds.. then of course if good then closer shots be zapped coyote... you be surprised hose some shots don't make it to 50 yd line

I'm try these 2 rounds

It will save you some money to staple the 2x4 to the sides tht looks like cardboard and simply put the orange dot on the white side.

Remington 3" 4BK is the best there is!

10:48 what choke is that

Copper plating has not much to do with pattern but more to do with better penetration

what choke are you using?

What shotgun?

Are you in AZ? What part of so

Hey buddy great video, those hornady Shells are garbage, try rem doubles and triples, the triples are double stacked inside and will blow your mind with that kicks choke, and if you have a shotgun that uses a beretta/ benelli Mobile style choke then it will really blow your mind. I very often kill deer out to 100 yards with a shotgun and hand loads but factories you can for sure get out to 80

The 70 bb count is actually better against the two legged coyote at 20 yards...good self defense load for home ...they won't need 911..

What kind of shotgun is that

You should give 00 buck another chance. Hornady 3 in 00 buck is showing terrible patterning at 35+ yards,, whereas Winchester and even cheap Black Aces (80cents per round) are landing an average of 4 of 9 pellets in a 12 inch circle at 40 yards. Even 2 pellets of 00 buck on a coyote's chest is a cleaner kill than 10 pellets of #4 buck.

Good video #4 buckshot by far. I would’ve had to shoot off a rest to be confident.

4 buck 3 times the power than bb per pellet

I wholeheartedly think, you can’t be a serious KZfaq hunter or gun guy unless you own a Tacoma Tundra or a Wrangler

I'm late to the party with this comment but I was curious if you're still using #4 buck. I just recently started getting interested in hunting coyote with shotgun. The few people I know who hunt coyote with shotgun swear by bb's. Brand of shell seemed to be shotgun specific. FYI, I'm also a fan of chicken d*cks.

pattern will never be the same you can shoot 5 rounds and will never be the same

i just use 4 shot turkey load 3 1/2 killed lots coyotes 60 yds easy

SAPPERS lead the way!

TURNED out by chicken ducks lol

Using numbers only are boring and hard to pay attention to. In fact, I had to replay your conclusion twice, and still couldn't keep track!!!

Don't shoot at coyotes beyond 40 yards if you want clean kills .

Come on SAPPER! - if you’re pattern isn’t on center target you don’t get to just choose the grouping you want to make it all better 😢 - if you’re shooting rifle, do you just pick 3 or 5 rounds off the target out of twenty one say “this is my tightest group!”??? Placement matters. If the shot is consistently drifting left… then we can say it’s probably you… but placement matters even with a shotgun. - if the pattern isn’t consistent… I don’t want to use that shot or choke 😎

You really have to try different chokes hear in the great communist state of New Jersey we use shotgun only for deer Iv been hunting here for 57 users different chokes make different patterns. And different shells can very from shell to shell. Even if they are the same make and shot size with buckshot it can be a nite mare finding to find the write combo you may have to shoot till your shoulder or your cash 💰 pocket can’t take it any more. Iv been shooting no. Buck for the last 5 years with good success. It’s just what my gun likes 🙏

So, making a factual statement of effectiveness off of only 1 shell fired is worthless. You need to shoot more than 1 because there might be a freak of assembly or you just did not aim quite right, or some other factor. And as for the choke, some wads are designed to hold a tighter group and using too tight of a choke ruins the effectiveness of the wad! The same gun with an improved choke could have shot so much better that it would have left every other shell looking like trash!

30 yards estimate? 50 yards estimate? ESTIMATE, AKA NO FRIGGEN CLUE SO JUST GUESSED!