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Oldboy - What's the Difference?
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6 жыл бұрынIt made our list of favorite adaptations of all time so here's a deep dive into the bonkers story of a man locked away by for years, and his struggle to get revenge. Park Chan-wook's incredible 2003 film deviates from the original manga in just a few VERY meaningful ways, so here's your SPOILER WARNING! It's time to ask, What's the Difference?
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@FrostyFlameTV 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first case of the book being actually LESS disturbing than the film.
@onex7805 6 жыл бұрын
The Shining.
@cinderwood3218 6 жыл бұрын
Why was goto induced to fall in love with the girl in the manga? In the movie it was part of the villain's revenge, why in the manga?
@abdellnunez1403 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot The Mist.
@sparshrastogi2646 6 жыл бұрын
WonPorky I just finished the manga. It makes abit of sense. He hypnotized them to fall in love and then they really started to like each other, however if you remember there is a lock on a second hypnosis, so in the epilogue they show got dreaming where this gets unlocked by the “flowers” song and eri kills herself, a final blow from dojima to goto. He always wants to have that threat over him.
@cameronfleming488 5 жыл бұрын
@@onex7805 yes, but the film is still better than the book. King can't write.
@justicefora11 4 жыл бұрын
For the last scene, the main actor Choi Minsik asked the director Park Chanwook whether Daesu still knew Mido's his daughter. The director didn't give him an answer or any direction on that and went on filming the scene since he wanted it to be an open ending. The main actor, Choi Minsik later said he had figured he could not have acted Daesu in that scene without settling his mind, so he acted while having an image of Daesu failing to lose his memory and still knowing the truth.
@inigo-montoya 3 ай бұрын
so, the daesu who lives is the father and not the lover?
@constancebasco6421 5 жыл бұрын
Park chan wook the South Korean director who adapted oldboy said in an interview he felt the manga would not translate well cinematically and that while peeing he tried to ask the right questions that would lead to answers. Like why 15 years maybe it's enough time for the daughter to grow up but why would the villan want that... so on so on. I have to say that's what's special about park chan wook oldboy , it's a haunting wierd trip.
@daisys1616 6 жыл бұрын
The plot twist was so good
@TheAngelmisa 6 жыл бұрын
Daisy S And sad....
@mishaz4820 6 жыл бұрын
Daisy S Meh. If incest does it for you maybe.
@LeoSkyro 6 жыл бұрын
It really hit me like a truck, I actually audibly gasped. I might have seen that coming, but I am making an effort of enjoying movies more in the moment and not analyzing plot as I'm watching, and boy did it pay off in this case!
@shagb3955 6 жыл бұрын
watch Under the Skin then
@datdamnkez 5 жыл бұрын
I swear went I found out about the plot twist my jaw hit the ground
@newwave26 3 жыл бұрын
Park Chan-wook is such a brilliant guy. He didn't just adapt the book but he improved, developed the ideas, philosophies and of course the freaking trippy and cinematic visual.
@megavidaeos 4 жыл бұрын
Manga: ten years Movie: fifteen years Remake: twenty years This poor guy is going to spend his whole damn life in that room if this story is retold many more times.
@KitsGravity 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@DanteYewToob 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen it, but I'm just assuming the American one did 20yrs to make sure the daughter was old enough. Anything under 19-18 would just seem like an old guy taking advantage of a young girl, but typically past 19-20 and Americans assume you can make your own decisions and maybe it was intended to feel more consensual.. Idk. But I am willing to bet the longer time was to make the daughter older. I'd bet money on it.
@FlyingBoer 4 жыл бұрын
There is a indian Bollywood version in which he did 14yrs
@v-trigger6137 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingBoer you mean "Zinda" starring Sanjay Dutt? that movie was a literal ripp off, the production company behind the original movie even wanted to sue the producers of Zinda. but before they could do anything the korean company bankrupt
@Chalize 3 жыл бұрын
Hotel: trivago
@SpikeJet2736 6 жыл бұрын
Funny that out of these two versions, it's the Japanese one that doesn't involve incest. Go figure
@RenegadeShepard69 6 жыл бұрын
I actually thought that aspect out of all things in the movie definitely was the most truthfully taken from the manga up until this video....
@bobbobete9546 6 жыл бұрын
ironic
@psychokinrazalon 6 жыл бұрын
Since when are Japanese manga known for incestuous relationships?
@zan3958 6 жыл бұрын
What is the twist in the manga?
@SpikeJet2736 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say half of anime and hentai but it is alot
@lonememe 6 жыл бұрын
I remember my first time seeing OldBoy and that plot twist was just iiinnncredible. It still gives me goosebumps to think about it. Anyway, I had no idea it came from a manga too, but great video! Thanks!
@brunodiaz696 6 жыл бұрын
nothing like the first time discovering what was inside the box
@LeoSkyro 6 жыл бұрын
I saw the box and went "uh, this reminds me of Seven, what could me more fucked up than what was in that box? maybe his daughter's head?" and right as I thought that.....BAAAAM the twist. Fuck it was good, it made me gasp out loud.
@lonememe 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not kidding, it literally gives me goosebumps thinking about it still. Hoping to have my girlfriend watch it for the first time soon!
@toddgarver5397 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh the old I made you sleep with your daughter gag. Classic *Also Spoiler Alert
@elbonnybar 4 жыл бұрын
the "Oh, Shit!!!" moment hits you like a truck. fairly fucked up.
@saugesmith803 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this film, a true masterpiece, glad you covered it
@xanderbisson2302 6 жыл бұрын
Sauge Smith i
@guthax30 6 жыл бұрын
Xander Bisson ...agree. 😄
@janpangilinan2979 5 жыл бұрын
story telling at its finest.
@MarvelousPhilly 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's 100%, one of the most well made movies of all time (imo). The acting of the protagonist is so damn believable.
@guthax30 5 жыл бұрын
The Marvelous One Not to mention the physical transformation. It looked like the actor not only put on and took off a lot of weight but the way his skin looks it seems he might have also tried to avoid sunlight when preparing for the role. or it's just an excellent make-up job. Also, get this: Choi Min Sik changed his accent for this role. Apparently the Korean language went through a lot of changes in real life during the 90s while he was locked up. That's why Mi Do asks "Do you always talk like that?".
@ayushchawdhary537 4 жыл бұрын
The hallway fight scene is so epic literally everyone is just copying it .
@kush2789 Жыл бұрын
Which other movies/shows are copying it? Do you know any?
@seragyasser2005 Жыл бұрын
@@kush2789 Daredevil the hallway fight s1 ep2 actually made a very good tribute to the original fight scene in old boy , there are a lot of other awful ones though.
@Ender_Blue2021 2 ай бұрын
@@kush2789 Kingsman Church scene is also an homage to Oldboy (2003)'s hallway fight scene.
@msscott22 Ай бұрын
@@kush2789 Feels like John Wick and all the sequels are just this scene over and over again.
@bangitybangbabang 6 жыл бұрын
The plot twist made me SCREAM out loud.
@bangitybangbabang 6 жыл бұрын
5timesAcademyAwardswinner Kirk Lazarus ... thanks for sharing
@commentcopbadge6665 6 жыл бұрын
It made me call my slutty sister to come over for Netflix. I know, I know I'm very lucky.
@CidGuerreiro1234 6 жыл бұрын
^That's hot.
@papastalin1543 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@richydum2678 5 жыл бұрын
The ending for the movie wasn't a happy smile. It slowly turned into a light sob of remembrance of his past.
@WisteriaNerium 4 жыл бұрын
It's ambiguous
@tokyomobster3072 4 жыл бұрын
@@WisteriaNerium he definitely doesn't look happy. His smile is a grimace. Perhaps he's outwardly happy as if he's forgotten, but deep inside is the knowledge of the whole event
@Monkeycivil 4 жыл бұрын
Laugh and the world laughs with you; Cry, and you cry alone.
@blacksunnydays 4 жыл бұрын
It was like he somehow knew that what he was doing was wrong
@WisteriaNerium 4 жыл бұрын
@@tokyomobster3072 could be that he doesn't remember but deep down he knows he's still a monster. Doesn't knows why but he just feels that.
@Samuel-pt7rm 6 жыл бұрын
This is best Christmas gift anyone can give me.
@aryankamnetz9808 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed it is I was waiting for this one for so long
@thelurkingpanda3605 5 жыл бұрын
same
@MaximumMadnessStixon 6 жыл бұрын
The thing that killed me about the Spike Lee film is that the idea behind "Oldboy" actually has a lot of potential for remakes/spin-offs/etc. Someone who is held captive against their will only to suddenly be let free? There's hundreds and hundreds of different directions that story could go! So why just retell the exact same story over again? If they ever try to remake it again, I hope they just use the set-up but come up with an original storyline and characters.
@emile1365 4 жыл бұрын
It's the count of Monte Cristo, but the Count is let out, but I see what you're driving at.
@tiaaaron3278 3 жыл бұрын
Spike Lee is a hack. He could have adapted the manga and put his own spin on it but chose to make a shitty uninspired remake instead.
@Jazmin_GG 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t tell the same story he literally missed all the entire point of the original movie, it was so shitty it doesn’t deserve to exist
@emmabennett7699 Жыл бұрын
@@tiaaaron3278 I like Spike Lee, and haven't seen his Oldboy remake, so I'm gonna keep it that way :) He is great when he's being original
@haganeelric98 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to mention that Old Boy is part of a trilogy called The Trilogy of Vengeance (or something like that), along with Sympathy for Mr Vengeance and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. I totally recommend all of them as they share a final plot twist that you never see coming.
@clownpendotfart 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, but don't recall there being much of a twist.
@amjiva 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lady Vengeance didn't have a twist, and it was the weakest of all 3 films. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance didn't really have a twist either. Oldboy is the one that is popular because of the wild twist. However, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is the overall superior film. It's basically a Greek tragedy, and it's shot so wonderfully. Oldboy has plot devices that seem more contrived. Mr. V flows more organically.
@wiktoriakocan778 6 жыл бұрын
there was also I saw the devil, has the same actor for the main character, I highly recommend!!
@swishpronoob 6 жыл бұрын
In what order should I watch them?
@MateDrinker33 6 жыл бұрын
swishpronoob: It doesn't matter; unlike most Western film trilogies, with Park Chan Wook's "Vengeance Trilogy" instead of being linked by plot or by characters the movies are instead linked by theme. However, if you do want a real recommendation, I would just watch them in the order that in which they were originally released (FUN FACT: One major advantage of watching them in order despite not mattering from a plot standpoint is that you get to see how badass of actor Choi Min-sik is after watching him make the leap from playing the protagonist role in "Oldboy" to portraying the antagonist in "Lady Vengeance"! :D).
@BugsMcCoy 6 жыл бұрын
I swear there's only one guy narrating this. Clint and Michael always sounded the same to me.
@It9LpBFS37 6 жыл бұрын
There were 2 of them?????
@Simon-zu2rb 4 жыл бұрын
It is one person... The name is Clint Michael, that's the twist.
@15awesomehighfive 4 жыл бұрын
@@Simon-zu2rb Ah, George's long-lost brother.
@frankunodostres473 6 жыл бұрын
the music in that movie is incredible!
@pinkstarlight7640 6 жыл бұрын
frank unodostres yess I completely agree
@sichiu 6 жыл бұрын
Especially the fight scene bit!
@MateDrinker33 6 жыл бұрын
frank unodostres: That and Lady Vengeance both. :D
@Karl_Marksman 6 жыл бұрын
Can't think of a movie with better music than Oldboy. The waltzes and shit. Suits the hyperdramatic style of the movie so well. I still have the melody to a bunch of the songs in my head. Cries and Whispers omg
@ragnarlothbrok9094 5 жыл бұрын
artist's name is jo yeong wook if you're interested in more of his masterpieces.
@Rorschach003 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think that the reason for revenge in the manga is uhh kind of really dumb?
@ericrhodes5174 5 жыл бұрын
He wanted revenge on him because he saw him cry as a child?! LMAO! That is so stupid yet so Japanese. When I first found out the twist, I was like 'Of course that would be his motive'
@nathanlevesque7812 5 жыл бұрын
You have to read the manga to get it. It could be condensed to an essay, but no one would watch let alone read that just to find out that it's esoteric. Most people don't get it.
@ericrhodes5174 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 I've read the manga. The manga isn't high art, it's just a simple revenge story and an unremarkable on at that. There's a reason why it was so swiftly forgotten on it's original release. No one would give a damn about it if it weren't for the film.
@nathanlevesque7812 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericrhodes5174 Eric Rhodes That it went over your head doesn't surprise me. I already said most people don't get it.
@yutubes2465 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 You're hilarious. The old boy manga isn't intelligently written like you seem to think. The twist is stupid nonsense wrapped in unearned tension. For someone calling other people stupid, you're pretty stupid your self
@crozraven 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You guys finally cover this masterpiece!
@jazzerrivera2351 6 жыл бұрын
Still cannot watch Oldboy to this day, it fucked me up so bad, emotionally. Great vid!
@aegresen 6 жыл бұрын
I recommended Oldboy to a guy who's not really a cinephile and he came back the next day all flustered saying that he'd never ask me for a recommendation again because the ending fucked him up so bad! Poor guy.
@jazzerrivera2351 6 жыл бұрын
Geralt ofTrivia I absolutely do not blame him lol. I watched it with absolutely no knowledge what the movie was about and .. the rest is history lol whenever I recommend it, I have to always say a disclaimer as a heads up.
@Altorin 6 жыл бұрын
Jazzer Rivera "watch old boy. It will fuck you up. You will hate me for recommending it. But you will love it. And secretly you will love me for recommending it. Eventually. Secretly told only to yourself like whispers in a dream"
@tracyrain4941 5 жыл бұрын
Oldboy film: amazing actors, amazing fight scenes Director: worth watching anything he's done Choi Min-Sik: awesome actor Bought the film after seeing it in a shop but knew nothing about it! Paid full price and have never regretted it! Definitely one for any film buffs to watch. LOVE IT!!!
@snazwonk2066 6 жыл бұрын
when movie is better then manga. Madness... But i love it.
@uncharted3awesome 6 жыл бұрын
I can't, for the life of me, tell their voices apart
@2devilbat 6 жыл бұрын
Felipe Trindade i started watching michael from way back when on his tasted series, why would you eat that, so you would think im familiar with his voice and can tell them apart right. N o p e. Clint and michael sound EXACTLY the same.
@amanofculture4892 5 жыл бұрын
There were *two* guys?
@kilarthmac 5 жыл бұрын
i forgot that there were two narrators when i watched this video lmaoo
@clitcrusader4897 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT
@5050TM 6 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry WTF???????
@taniatakoyaki 4 жыл бұрын
when i read the manga, i feel betrayed that the ending is kind of stupid. i mean yo wtf hahahahah. we waited for that long just to finally know that its really not that big of a deal. This also makes Old Boy movie adaptation 2003 a legendary
@misterStevePikk 6 жыл бұрын
I think I would be disappointed if that was the twist after 1600 pages. Maybe it's better than it sounds
@Naruto_from_the_Naruto_show 6 жыл бұрын
misterStevePikk Maybe it's about the journey, not the destination? Okay, kinda
@onex7805 6 жыл бұрын
I've read it. The execution isn't much better.
@Altorin 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a twist in the manga. Not really. Just a terrible terrible motivation for the antagonist. That's why the movie is a Korean movie that is one of the best films ever made period and the manga is something no-one has ever heard of.
@TheOriginalDogLP 6 жыл бұрын
I have to defend the manga here a bit. The movie is much better than the manga in most of the aspects, but the twist was never intended a twist in the manga.
@DSan-kl2yc 6 жыл бұрын
The manga isn't super long either. Manga tends to be brief and fly fast. It's not a movie for art but 9 volumes is not long for manga. The manga is pretty decent. The movie has some cool stuff and is a notch above it but the manga adaptation that was straight would be good too. The villain motivation is given gravity by the extent that he went. Not really the action that it was. The twist and the villain motivation aren't the same. If by twist you mean him sleeping with his daughter because the protagonist really doesn't care that some dude slept with some girl(as he saw it).
@TheSpanishzombie 6 жыл бұрын
This movie is so good, nothing like old boy, sometimes you gotta watch asian movie to see the crazy shit they do, this movie would never been made in the US, and the main actor goddamn
@sjbrooksy45 6 жыл бұрын
TheSpanishzombie yeah he's great, loved him in "I Saw the Devil"
@user-wk3on9mt7f 6 жыл бұрын
Except it was (re)made in the US. By Spike Lee. Almost exactly, though the twist is modified... and the movie is shit. Everything hinges on the twist, honestly.
@VitaliyMilonov 6 жыл бұрын
TheSpanishzombie You guys do realize that "oldboy" was the worst of Park Chan-wook's vengeance trilogy?
@user-wk3on9mt7f 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like "Mr. Vengeance" the most
@VitaliyMilonov 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Early Yeah, me too.
@jackfables3470 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note that, while, in the manga, Ojisan and Eri are not explicitly revealed to be related, they still have the same distinct nose and, out of all the characters in the manga (however important or trivial), they are the only ones to have it. It's like Bram Stoker's Dracula : in the novel, Dracula and his female companions have the same distinct aquiline nose and it's never explained if they are family members - let alone the exact nature of their relationship (friends, father and daughters, teacher and apprentices or lovers). Also, even after they both learn their love was caused by hypnosis, they still decide to be a couple - though they still decide to go out of their way to keep their relationship hidden from every single person who learned about the hypnosis.
@Darkman1025 6 жыл бұрын
That continuous fight scene in the movie is freakin awesome! Glad you guys did this one. Loved the movie but haven't read the manga yet.
@fakenews6133 6 жыл бұрын
Killing the men with a toothbrush was pretty cool in the final scene too. And how he deafened that guy so he couldn't hear the leader's commands, forcing the leader to shoot him was pretty cool too. And that time he casually pulled a knife out of his own back
@cryoboy 6 жыл бұрын
I want to encourage fans of this movie to also check out the hollywood remake, preferably watch them both back to back. Seeing the flat and lifeless cinematography of the Spike Jonze version, the subpar editing, the generic soundtrack, the "just gimme my paycheck" acting and especially how laughably bad they handled the big reveal scene at the end will increase your appreciation for the original even more.
@saiashwin26 6 жыл бұрын
Its Spike Lee not Jonze
@XeroFailGames 6 жыл бұрын
Sai Ashwin i was about to comment this
@amjiva 6 жыл бұрын
And if you really want to be offended, check out the blatant Bollywood ripoff of Oldboy entitled, "Zinda." Just search KZfaq for Zinda fight scene or hammer fight scene. It's so fucking bad. They even give the Indian star the same clothes and haircut as Oh Dae-su. Then the director had the audacity to say that his movie wasn't a remake and gave no credit to the original film or the manga.
@XeroFailGames 6 жыл бұрын
Austen Green ive seen the terrible bollywood literal shot for shot ripoffs of the man from nowhere (korean action movie) and knight and day ( tom cruise and cameron diaz)....and people wonder y i bash bollywood
@plum_swf 6 жыл бұрын
Those... eyebrows...
@ianlabat8724 6 жыл бұрын
Weird theory, could both main characters exist in the same universe? The movie and the film show the same building, with a floor that locks people away inside of it, but show two different people locked up by two different psychos.
@siegvash 6 жыл бұрын
Could be. Except that the building is similar, not the same. Both of them happen in different countries but it could have happen in different places.
@christopherfarrel264 4 жыл бұрын
@@siegvash what if there's a cult consist of these rich guy that set up this kind of game in every country?
@doodle_pug 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherfarrel264 It doesn't seem that far fetched since what is going on in reality seems even crazier nowadays 🤔
@sheiringhoddoucy1804 2 жыл бұрын
That was the conceit in Spike Lee’s remake-a concierge style prison service for the super rich, with hundreds of victims.
@GippyHappy 9 ай бұрын
I love that each adaptation just has him locked up for longer and longer. It started with 10 years in the manga, 15 years in the movie, then 20 years in the remake. Let the poor man go.
@froteet 6 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys are doing "What's the Difference?" But do you take suggestions, because I feel like Irvine Welshs inagural novel "Trainspotting" should be compared against it's it's film counterpart
@maxgonzo6155 6 жыл бұрын
froteet YES!!
@jeanaltuve1696 6 жыл бұрын
Omg!! YES YEEEES!!!
@guthax30 5 жыл бұрын
They should have done that one when T2 came out!
@elbiousuca2957 4 жыл бұрын
They lost the part in the book when ginger protagonist is ashamed tht he dyed in black....when redhead pubs.
@bitnissan 6 жыл бұрын
The Korean film is a master piece and the ending enhances it without the ending it is just another good movie. The pacing is right, the color everything it all seems surreal...pacing is so important in a film like this to believe how the character becomes broken to share his depression elation emotional thoughts and him falling in love. The US version does none of this rushes everything and doesn't leave you asking questions.
@JJMomoida 6 жыл бұрын
"The manga is crazy long! at 8 volumes!" Really? 8 volumes is "crazy long?"
@GigaChadh976 6 жыл бұрын
Carlos Hernandez Yes.
@larsthurgood811 6 жыл бұрын
Long for lazy ass bitches.
@XxsasukevsnarutoxX 5 жыл бұрын
Naruto is 70 volumes
@havoc467 5 жыл бұрын
@@XxsasukevsnarutoxX I think one piece beats it no?
@Drexlerr 5 жыл бұрын
@Decriminalize Darwinism Why are you getting so angry at a simple statement, a story being long is subjective to the person reading it.
@edmondlee7149 6 жыл бұрын
Oldboy, in my top5 of all time fave films. Great vid.
@KeeGan1926 4 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw the corridor fight scene I was in literal awe. I don't think any scene from any movie ever made me feel such a thing.
@Thatdeal79 6 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious why the motives were changed in the film. Sadness over a choir audition wouldn’t of translated very well. Lol
@iameberitte3032 5 жыл бұрын
Funny because he was also being toyed on I Saw the Devil. Brilliant actor!
@zoommikerobinson3315 6 жыл бұрын
Your editing and software (not to mention the dynamic dialog), really made this Cinefix "What's The Difference" awesome.
@asc6911 4 жыл бұрын
Oldboy is my favourite film. It is without a doubt the one film I wish I could see again over and over again for the first time.
@elathodivelayudhan7651 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest i predicted that Mido was DaeSu's daughter quickly but never thought there would be a darker side to the story
@eenix 5 жыл бұрын
This film is the proof where a movie can be better than the original manga.
@Arkkimonni 5 жыл бұрын
Not word to word, but I still remember the ending line of Oldboy's letter to the hypnotic lady: "Even if I am a monster, don't I too, deserve happiness?"
@johnroxas123 6 жыл бұрын
The true intention of the film was more compelling than the manga.
@Skankhunt-ry4qj 5 жыл бұрын
2003 oldboy is a masterpiece
@miahballez 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the first adaptation of the manga the best cause it's what introduced me to the manga. And because the twist at the end was something I would have never guessed and caught me completely off guard. The only movie ever to have me shouting at the screen, "what?!".
@bumi2514 4 жыл бұрын
you guys freaking did Old Boy!? This channel is honestly too cool to exist.
@TheFridge0x 5 жыл бұрын
This film has my favourite fight scene from any movie, that hall way is just beautifully shot and gruesome in equal measure.
@alvarooverlay5405 6 жыл бұрын
im really impressed theres no whats the difference about the wanted movie and comic
@jakhaiwilcox2193 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should do WANTED next. The comic and the movie are basically two different stories
@profthedog 6 жыл бұрын
This is in my top 10 movies of all time. I just love and it's the movie that got me into oriental cinema. Masterpiece. Great work on the video, just a thing that I wanna point out: in the end of the movie Dae-Su, that asked the hypnotist to erase his memory, when first hugs Mi-Do, is happy cause he doesn't remember that she is his daughter, but then is face morphs into disgust/terror, almost as in the end the hypnosis didn't work out. But then it ends and you're left with that mixed feelings, I think that part is absolutely brilliant, whether it was real or not. Fav channel on youtube by the way. Awesome work, everytime.
@Abdullahs_World Жыл бұрын
Music, Story, Cinematography, Acting, Dialogues 10/10 from 1st minute to last second totally eye sticking movie! Curiousity at peak. And you know new movie of this director is just out "Decision to leave" I mean come on! Just another awesome movie.. I just watched last night.
@francinesux 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best movies I've ever seen! wow (make a video abt Lolita - if with both movies, better - plssss)
@taegyuan2869 6 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of Oh Dae Su is all over the place.
@2devilbat 6 жыл бұрын
Taegyu An same with Goto lol its either like Gohdo or like “go to”.
@Karl_Marksman 6 жыл бұрын
Mashi the space kid most europeans can't pronounce caesar. Give them a break :p
@enzodapan5016 7 ай бұрын
Oldboy and his whole unofficial revenge trilogy is amazing. They're not just your normal revenge thrillers but ones that examine its destructive nature on how it can lead people to the most dangerous places.
@eliroth9978 6 жыл бұрын
My second favorite film of al time! Thank you Cinefix, best Christmas gift ever!
@feywinterfox9630 6 жыл бұрын
YES! I LOVE the movie, but something that has always bugged me is that while Oh Dae-su is by no means an angle or great guy (ain't evil that is for sure) he wasn't the one that started spreading the rumor about Lee Woo-jin's sister. Yeah he saw them but it was his friend Joo-hwan started spreading it! I mean I get that Dae-su told what he saw but he also told his friend not to tell anyone, in more of a, "wow that was a odd thing I saw...oh well, BETTER NOT TELL ANYONE!" then changed schools cause he was moving! I know it's opinion, but the way I see it the guy you wanna luck up for really kicking it off is Joo-hwan! Maybe find Dae-su and have a few guys beat him up with a message of "keep your mouth shut!" I don't know that is just my opinion!
@tiaaaron3278 3 жыл бұрын
You're right but Woo-jin was never exactly in his right mind either. He just looked for someone to blame for his problems and Dae-su seemed like the perfect culprit. He eavesdropped, watched the sibling sex and ignited this mess. He also had daughter which Woo-jin could and did exploit. That drunk friend guy didn't have anyone (Woo-jin killed him anyways) and while he was guilty too, he didn't start the chain of events that led to the sister's death.
@feywinterfox9630 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiaaaron3278 VERY GOOD POINT! I didn’t even think about that!
@jacksonelh 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing movie, way better than the manga I say.
@Zanaki113 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a post on reddit talking about oldboy on my phone at work, didn't reply to it, didn't look it up, didn't even click on it now here I am at home and this is the first thing recommended to me, wtf google, wtf.
@thepeterparkershow 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Xmas gift... I've been suggesting you guys cover this since 2016. Happy Holidays, Cinefix!
@rornoa2821 5 жыл бұрын
Man I just watched this movie today! And it's on my recommendation! Hmmmmmmmm
@elcineaste 6 жыл бұрын
I like this film
@elcineaste 6 жыл бұрын
The Korean version
@arturdent5168 6 жыл бұрын
never seen it, must watch it
@lukess.s 6 жыл бұрын
Artur Dent DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO
@arturdent5168 6 жыл бұрын
+Luke S why not?
@hollowkid97 6 жыл бұрын
Artur Dent spoilers. That should be obvious...
@XZeroCounterX583 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't healed from watching the movie yet. I don't remember any movie with such an emotional impact. I can't rewatch this movie. Especially his smile breaks me.
@Grnvolpe 6 жыл бұрын
I love Oldboy. Great job as always
@aidancooper675 6 жыл бұрын
snowpiercer what's the difference
@sebaseba6710 6 жыл бұрын
hey why don't you guys make "what's the difference " of Snowpiercer
@prince_dogboy 6 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, and the "What's The Difference" segments are greatly appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work!
@fillerlyn7764 5 жыл бұрын
0:20 That pause was perfect
@PedroSilvahf 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt mind if this video also had the spike lee remake. Just for curiosity since this film went so bad its unbearable to watch the whole thing
@prelude2disaster 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly watched the S. Lee version wondering why they even bothered. Most of the changes were so minute, it may as well have been a shot for shot remake (Ala Psycho w/ Vince Vaughn) and what was changed was for the worse. Admittedly, I went in expecting it to be worse so was pleasantly surprised it wasn't another "Ring" scenario but... it was utterly pointless and I could've used that time watching the Korean version.
@cwxgames468 6 жыл бұрын
I actually liked it and it got me pumped when the rumor that Josh Brolin was in the running to playing batman came out.
@kingRukus39 6 жыл бұрын
the spike lee one isnt bad. it just serves no purpose. It would be a perfectly acceptable if not weird film if the original film and manga didn't exist
@cwxgames468 6 жыл бұрын
that point could be made for anything the have covered on here
@Romidamn 6 жыл бұрын
Quite honestly, I think I would have really enjoyed Lee's version... Had it not been for Park's. Lee's is entertaining. Park's is an award winning (at the Cannes festival, mind you, basically the Academy Awards for artsy movies) masterpiece.
@jongmagee 6 жыл бұрын
The original manga reason for locking him up is so lame.
@Altorin 6 жыл бұрын
Daisu's look at the end isn't really happiness. I always saw it as a soft realization that nothing will ever be ok for him ever again. So, kind of like the ending of the manga but in a completely different context. He has the memory of her being his daughter removed, so they can be together. And she hugs him and he smiles, but it's a manic unhinged smile tinged with sadness and regret that will never ever leave him and he will never know why. That is why old boy is so powerful. Because it has a really really deep ending.
@Mr.CoolDood 4 жыл бұрын
One of the great movies I have ever watched
@JohnTheBear 6 жыл бұрын
Is oldboy still on netflix? i would love to watch it again but with friends this time!
@Lmaoh5150 6 жыл бұрын
John TheBear Yep!
@hollowkid97 6 жыл бұрын
Not on Canadian Netflix :(
@oneoveronethirtyseven9161 6 жыл бұрын
Just watched it last night as well after seeing CineFix's video on adaptations. I went in knowing nothing about it and man I was not expecting what I saw. Haha.
@James-nv1wf 6 жыл бұрын
We need to boycott Canadian Netflix. As free as Canada tries to preach itself to be, its looking more and more oppressive each year. Freedom of Speech for instance.
@Nick-4K 6 жыл бұрын
Do the star wars prequels books vs movies. I'd like that.
@bigstunna2049 6 жыл бұрын
NET Alliance - Star Wars Fun I'm surprised they haven't done that yet
@irvingramirez2335 6 жыл бұрын
The revenge of the sith boook wassssss sooooo much better like fuck Palpatine sounded wayyy more convincing in the book of how he turn anakin
@Altorin 6 жыл бұрын
The thing is, this is more about movies based on books. That is a book based on movies. Slightly different. Still an interesting thought.
@onex7805 6 жыл бұрын
Novelization? Revenge of the Sith novel was pretty good actually.
@StormDatIsApproaching 6 жыл бұрын
Except, they're talking here about adaptations. Movies taking ideas that originate from books and turning them into new pieces of art while keeping contact with the feel of the source material. What you're talking about is a novelisation of a blockbuster, made to sell money, and of course the book is going to be different, since the movies were so poorly written, they would've had to be brain dead to sell the script beat for beat.
@MelancholyRequiem 9 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Spike Lee making a very faithful miniseries adaptation of the Oldboy manga could have actually been good.
@lancinekeita4823 3 жыл бұрын
THIS MAN HAD THE MANGA DOWNLOADED..... I NEVER THOUGHT OF DOING THAT!!
@slashbash1347 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. Do Charlie and the Chocolate Factory next!
@ECL28E 6 жыл бұрын
Not much, really. It stick EXTREMELY close to the book, right down to the song lyrics. THe only difference is the addition of Willy Wonka's backstory
@Beastman112274 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta do ichi the killer
@davidhenriksson285 6 жыл бұрын
Cry and you cry alone, laugh and the whole world laughs with you!
@GigaChadh976 6 жыл бұрын
David Henriksson Wrong order.
@jacobpowell9941 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you paused a second time before the mido spoiler, and holy shit that was great.
@mastermavrick 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm i might have to read the manga, knew of it but never bothered with it, when i watched the original. Might do so now.... But with that..manga vs moive -- "ichi the killer" will that one ever get covered then?
@brycejohnson6515 6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO THE GODFATHER
@sucktitles 4 жыл бұрын
I'm such a movie geek that I recognize the Action Essentials pack in the blood spatters at 6:49
@milescampbell521 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Made me want to re-watch the film i haven't seen in years AND read the manga!
@George-gn2qn 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference trainspotting!!!!
@SkotKozB5 6 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion here. The Spike Lee Oldboy wasn't terrible. In fact I feel he explained the ending better than the original did. Does that mean I'll watch that over the original? Hahahaha no. Fuck no.
@gamerunamed538 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a coincidence! I’ve just watched this masterpiece with my brother the day before this video was uploaded, he had never seen it before (for me it was a rewatch).
@MrJesseforsell 6 жыл бұрын
This was really great! Good job!
@luisrentas870 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen some great cinematography in TV shows lately and would love it if you guys did some more videos with that! House of Cards, Westworld, Broadchurch, Black Mirror, to name a few/
@Rendezman562 5 жыл бұрын
great film, a modern masterpiece!! I refuse to watch the American take on it though!!
@giuliogrossi7163 5 жыл бұрын
At the end of the film, Dae-su's smile turns into a look of pain so it is unclear whether the hypnosis really worked. Dae-su isn't happy.
@manuelcano8995 6 жыл бұрын
Cool !!! It comes from a MANGA? But the movie is just UNIQUE , A PIECE OF ART, period.
@fortkavanagh 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an anime of this.
@adamliddle2060 6 жыл бұрын
i thought that sounded like a terrible idea but upon further investigation, yes pls
@fortkavanagh 6 жыл бұрын
it would probably be a action/mystery, we need more animes like that in this day an age?
@adamliddle2060 6 жыл бұрын
nah, it just needs to be a mindfuck. would probably be pretty successful too like death note or code geass without the supernatural stuff.
@fortkavanagh 6 жыл бұрын
how about a action/mystery/mindfuck theme for this anime?
@babag883 6 жыл бұрын
A noir story
@oppaheimer88 5 жыл бұрын
One of the rare moments where the film adaptation is better than the original source.
@rocheambre357 6 жыл бұрын
I got a t-shirt, iphone case and tattoo of this movie, so... I kinda liked it ahah I'm really happy you finally talked about it
@jaketheps2punk 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the upload!!!
@haiderh042 6 жыл бұрын
So basically Movie > Manga
@kvhd5868 4 жыл бұрын
the manga is better 🤷🏾♂️.
@dizzyarcher01 6 жыл бұрын
i liked the mouse part in the remake. that was dark. great video, a wonderful Christmas present :)
@ansaditya 6 жыл бұрын
it has been remade in Indian cinema by the name 'Zinda' .. a fantastic movie .
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