Everything Wrong With Dune In 20 Minutes Or Less

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Dune is awesome in many, many ways... but not in the "finishing the story" kind of way. Cliffhangers in movie's aren't always fun. But anyway, let's talk about the sins, because Dune has many!
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@aidankeohane3370 2 жыл бұрын

The Harkonnens saw Duncan take out 3 of their guys in 2 seconds and they were just like “there’s no scenario where this guy doesn’t get in the thropter, but there is one where he does and we’re alive as well. Take the keys buddy! It’s all yours!”

@matheussanthiago9685 2 жыл бұрын

classic "I'm not payed enough for this shit"

@darken0id306 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i loved that scene because it made the basic grunt soldiers feel more like actual human beings that dont want to get killed just for the sake of glory or honour or some shit like that. Also its fucking badass how Duncan just takes the Thopter because the soldiers just peace the fuck out.

@epiphi 2 жыл бұрын

This is... exactly accurate.

@gregoryf9299 2 жыл бұрын

Contrast with the guy who allows himself to be cemented into a wall on the faint hope he MIGHT assassinate someone (was he supposed to assassinate the Duke? The Hark’s were told not to kill Paul but maybe wall-guy didn’t get that memo, lol)

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryf9299 well since the movie skipped all the political backdoor maneuvering its easy to see your confusion

@911Sway Жыл бұрын

50 sins for not understanding that worms cannot travel through stone. If there are rocks, its not worm territory. They can only travel through open sand.

@TheDalisama 3 ай бұрын

A lot of the sins listed in this are things explained in the book that were either omitted entirely or cut from the film. However, a feel like quite a few listed are explained in the movie or can easily be understood from cues, like the fact that worms aren't everywhere. In the scene in question Paul specifically says to head for the rocks. And they aren't falling in the "freefalling" scene. I saw the movie before reading the book and understood that without issue.

@andyjacobs7010 3 ай бұрын

@@TheDalisama Not that it's relevent to Cinema Sins since "The Books Don't Matter." But Worms stake out their own territory which is one reason why they aren't everywhere. They don't hunt in packs.

@charlieheadlam8771 2 ай бұрын

50 sins for not knowing how lasers can't do shields

@xxCrimsonSpiritxx 2 ай бұрын

Sooo.. A gigantic worm that evolved in the sand with so many stones can eat an entire harvester made of metal and all sorts of harder than rock elements, but suddenly a human sized rock is just too much for the worm to finally eat in a lifeless desert?

@nicklehner6185 2 ай бұрын

@@xxCrimsonSpiritxx you do know that rocks dont float on the surface but reach down a lot so it wouldnt fit in a worms mouth like a harvester ...

@_pich 6 ай бұрын

the spice lets the spacing guild successfully navigate because they trip balls on it so hard it lets them see into the near future and steer between the stars before they reach them 👍

@PvtPartzz 2 ай бұрын

This is the best explanation

@Zoey_the_Rat 2 ай бұрын

Would have been damn nice if this movie explained ANY of the book's lore

@TylevGD 6 күн бұрын

@@Zoey_the_Ratif the movie explained the dune lore, it’d be like 7 hours long lmao

@alexpaul4144 Күн бұрын

Was I the only one that just assumed if it was needed by navigators to go ftl (essentially) that it had to be a drug of some Kind ? Otherwise it would be talked about like a fuel

@WakenerOne 2 жыл бұрын

1:59: You missed a sin. When the caption tells you that it's the year 10,191, what it _doesn't_ tell you is that this date reckons from the founding of the Spacing Guild, not the A.D. calendar. So the story takes place not 8,000 years from now, but over _25,000_ years from now. You'll need CinemaSins 27,000 to verify the state of the world. Requiring homework is definitely a sin. Also: Reading.

@summertyme5748 2 жыл бұрын

Yet unnecessary exposition is a sin as well. Do we need to know any of this?

@WakenerOne 2 жыл бұрын

@@summertyme5748 No more than we need to know that the year is 10,191. But if they feel the need to tell us that, then they need to tell us that 10,191 does not mean what we think it does. What's the point in telling us the year if that year is 17,000 years later than we would expect from what they are telling us? That's double the time they're telling us has passed, plus all of recorded history - _twice._ They could at least say that it's the year "10,191 S.G." Two letters. Or, they could say "25,000 years from man's first flight." Either way, if it's information that needs to be conveyed, then it's information that needs to be conveyed in a manner that doesn't make the viewer get the wrong information.

@kingcosworth2643 2 ай бұрын

Well the one he missed is made up for at 3:38, giving sin for the claim that writing the cause of death on a gravestone is uncommon and bizarre. Today it is certainly less common then in the past, but up until only recently (in the history of placing gravestones) writing the cause of death was done for pretty much every single gravestone. I'm certainly going to pace it on mine, it adds interesting detail for people walking around graveyards, for which many do.

@yipjohn6710 Ай бұрын

@@kingcosworth2643nearly everything in the video is made up there is hardly any criticism that is credible

@vijayanand6650 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I like about the book is how when Paul fights Jamis, he doesn’t know how to attack quickly because he has only trained to fight opponents with shields. He has to adapt because while he can defend very quickly, his attacks are planned to be slow enough to pass through a shield even though they aren’t wearing them. I just feel like not enough people mention this.

@mcmarkmarkson7115 2 жыл бұрын

Duncan said they fight like daemons and better than anyone he ever met. Paul must be better than Duncan to adapt that quickly.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 he wasn't just trained by Duncan and Gurney, but also by his mother Bene Gesserit, that means he is also a master of the Weirding Way, and yet he had a very hard time against Jamis. its something that the movie doesn't adapt well, its not that he is afraid of killing Jamis, is that his training is all about extremely fast defense and slow attacks, meaning he could easily repel Jamis attacks, but had a very hard time hitting him. the way he defeats Jamis is basically by seeing through his prescient that he was going to switch his blade from one hand to another and use it as a opening to finally hit him. if you read the book its all there, EXCEPT all the inner monologues that make sense of all that is happening and all the lower level play as Jessica and Paul try to manipulate the freemen and each other by carefully choosing their words and actions. for example, when Jessica says "he never killed anyone", she is only saying that so no one realizes his weakness about his training.

@kennethfharkin 2 жыл бұрын

@@danilooliveira6580 "the way he defeats Jamis is basically by seeing through his prescient that he was going to switch his blade from one hand to another and use it as a opening to finally hit him." Absolutely not. In both the book and the film the fight itself to Paul was a hidden nexus. He could die or he could live but the encounter itself was hidden to him. The knife hand switch was a warning given to him by Chani which he was wary for. As far as the fighting style, in the book his shield reactions were ingrained on both attack and defense. While his defense was fast it was also tuned to take advantage of the knowledge a shield would be there to aid in his defense. This is something Jessica saw in the fight and if Jamis had recognized it he could have taken advantage of it. In the film they had the first exchange where Paul asked if Jamis would yield. In the book he drew blood while in the film he simply held Jamis at knifepoint and vulnerable. The effect was the same. From that point on the film stressed more Paul's reluctance to kill Jamis with the implications of that killing and the jihad it brought closer, than the shield conditioning. I actually think that worked very well in for the film. The build up where Paul had seen possible futures with Jamis as a friend and teacher drove home the cost that was weighing on Paul should he take Jamis's life. The focus on ingrained shield reflexes could easily be handled in the next film, in the time after the fight with a brief comment from Jessica to Paul about being aware of his conditioned reflexes. I would not be surprised for Villenueve to include that but I would expect no more than a brief passing mention of it as part of the ongoing story.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethfharkin you are right, I got confused because I remember Paul mentioning his prescience during the fight, it was because of Chani's warning and Gurney's teachings about keeping an eye on the knife and not the hand that he could exploit the opening. but the problem of saying its because he was afraid of killing Jamis is that he wasn't exactly hesitating to kill him when he needed to even if he was weary and the visions were getting in the way, hell, he even exploits Jamis fear as Duncan taught him. I mean, the only reason Jessica says what she said and Paul confirms is because she didn't want people to think he was being needlessly cruel with Jamis and didn't want people to know his weakness, during all that time Jessica was trying to create a legend for Paul after all. the thing is, in the movie it works perfectly like in the book, except we are not seeing what is going on in their heads to know their intentions. so either because he was afraid of killing Jamis, or Jessica was trying to make sure people didn't think he was being cruel while protecting his weakness, it works either way. though as someone that read the book I like the fighting style conditioning more, because that shows you how manipulative Jessica and Paul are with the freemen, they are basically playing a long con.

@luke7503 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think it would be impossible to show naturally in the choreography, I think they did well to show his talent but that it was an unfamiliar fight

@JMilMovies 2 жыл бұрын

The ornithopter was not freefalling through the sandstorm. He shut off the controls so that the storm would carry the ornithopter instead of him trying to fight against it. Its the storm itself that pushed the ornithopter up to the 5000 meter mark. 1 sin removed.

@alexnash3024 2 жыл бұрын

Good man

@matthewknauf3625 2 жыл бұрын

agreed, I demand a recount!!

@thefogg 2 жыл бұрын

yeah thats exactly what i thought was happening. and is the most logica sense

@LoganNightmares 2 жыл бұрын

Own that fraud

@salflores713 2 жыл бұрын

No buddy that's still a f****** sin

@gerardlacroix6015 2 жыл бұрын

Gurney : Someone could imitate my stride... Cinemasins : They wouldn't. Face dancers and Gholas : *Chuckles*

@matheuslopes5287 3 ай бұрын

My first reaction to that line was that it was obvious foreshadowing... though indeed no one imitates his stride in the movie. Perhaps now in Part Two it happens?

@riley8704 3 ай бұрын

@@matheuslopes5287try part 3.

@matheuslopes5287 3 ай бұрын

@@riley8704Yup. Turns out they debuted in the later books.

@NateGH36O 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of these things that “aren’t explained in the movie” I feel are totally fine. The movie gives you just enough information to accept what you’re seeing on screen, and if you’re more curious about how it works, well then hey, you’ve got plenty of answers on the internet from thousands of pages of lore to back it up.

@archkull Жыл бұрын

I got a friend to finally get into reading Dune by watching the movie with him because he found the world and story so enthralling he wanted more. I think they did a great job simplifying just enough to make it adaptable into a movie while still preserving the lore and story elements well enough to understand most of what is going on even if you go in blind.

@saltyalpaca2618 3 ай бұрын

And even if you don't care to deep dive, it's okay to not know everything. I can't make my computer from scratch, I couldn't build my house and get all the electricity, gas, and water going. Do I complain about that, or quietly have an issue with it? No, never once crossed my mind until making this example.

@yipjohn6710 Ай бұрын

this video is a shit show of random stuff that dosnet matter w him trying to get a laugh

@lorenzoniccoli99ln Ай бұрын

Imo this is how movie adaptations should be made Not too much, not too little

@HughMann989 2 жыл бұрын

There’s a misconception that the shield wall refers to the wall of the city, the shield wall is a naturally occuring “mountain” range that blocks off sandstorms and prevents worms from burrowing underneath and passing through, although the movie makes it seem that it’s the city wall

@Sam_T2000 2 жыл бұрын

also, I thought in the books the Shield Wall encompasses a much larger area than just a single city, doesn’t it?

@HughMann989 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sam_T2000 yes, it covers the entire north pole of Arrakis, it’s a huge area that the city is only a part of

@gakabler 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually better represented in the 1984 movie

@Sam_T2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@gakabler - it’s been a while since I read the books… what name do they use to refer to the actual energy shield that protects the palace/city? it’s shown as the orange boxy thing in 1984, and implied to be shut down by Yueh in 2021…

@alt8791 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sam_T2000 those are just shields.

@DanteYewToob 2 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised how many people misunderstood the shields. The shields stop anything moving fast, like bullets. They only let something through under a set speed limit, hence why they use blades… because guns are essentially useless. Combat is less about powerful strikes and more about making an opening and misdirection so you can push a dagger through the shield slowly without being noticed until it’s too late.. (sound familiar?! It’s an allegory for the whole story.) Those darts don’t “drill” through the shield or whatever, they fly fast until they detect the shield, slow down and pass through. But if it’s slow, you can just grab it. So they are razor sharp and spin so you can’t grab it without having a tiny buzsaw cut off your fingers. You’ll notice the bombs do this too, they fall and then slow down at the last second to pass through. It’s a very unique idea that gives us a really cool and different style of combat where everyone is on equal footing and skill and technique make all the difference. It doesn’t matter how strong, or big, or tough you are… you cannot hurt your enemy without the technique and misdirection skill to make an opening and get a slow dagger through before they do. P.S. The shields allow slow things through because otherwise no air would get through, and it would make moving around very difficult if your limbs bounced off each other while you walk.. so the set speed is fast enough that you can move naturally but slow enough that it blocks most projectiles, strikes and impacts. Also, different shields have different limits. Combat shields might have a higher speed limit so the soldiers can move faster, and be more agile without triggering the shield. Imagine trying to run and you accidentally run a bit too fast and your legs repel each other and you plop.. the casual shields that are worn for normal use, like meetings, or the one Harkonen used are set much slower, because you’re unlikely to be breakdancing at a meeting. Make sense? Hope this helps explain for anyone confused. I didn’t cover everything but it’s a cool bit of tech that absolutely makes sense once you understand it.

@palehorseman9923 2 жыл бұрын

From what I understand, the show didn't seem to explain it that well, or spend much time on it, causing a lot of the confusion. Seems like it was one of the things that may of gotten cut for time?

@CommanderSilence 2 жыл бұрын

Ur so nerdy damn

@pattonpending7390 2 жыл бұрын

NEEEEEERRRRRDDDD!

@mcmarkmarkson7115 2 жыл бұрын

Then we see how the shields are useless as every projectile penetrates the shield. Then Giant super lazer and rockets turn everything to ass Lmao. I love dune, but it makes no sense.

@LordMuffinToken 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 dude, he JUST explained it

@flyingninja1234 2 жыл бұрын

There aren’t any thinking machines, at this point in the Dune universe. So Dr. Yueh can’t be a robot.

@HarBosSar 2 жыл бұрын

The glowing sphere is called a ....**drumrolls** .... a Glowglobe, which is a suspensor-buoyed illuminating device in the book...

@artembentsionov 2 жыл бұрын

Paul was trained by Duncan (a Swordmaster of Ginaz), Gurney (a troubadour warrior), Thufir (a warrior mentat), and Jessica (a Bene Gesserit). He’s learned to combine all four styles

@petarded8529 2 жыл бұрын

Straight up. Usul and Chani are gonna go full badass in part two. God mode *almost* engaged.

@catherinesanchez1185 2 жыл бұрын

@@petarded8529 I hope they include the scene from the book where someone comes to challenge Paul and Chani kills the guy herself because she didn't want Paul's time being wasted on such a loser. LOL ! There's very little humor in the Dune books, but that was hilarious. We got a little of that in this movie when she tells him "don't worry, Jamis is a good fighter , he'll kill you quickly , you won't suffer" I think I was the only one in the cinema that laughed out loud.

@jdwoods5790 2 жыл бұрын

@@petarded8529 also the fact that the 2 parts are just the 1st book

@KeytarArgonian Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that a Bebe Gesserit’s abilities are separate from their ‘weirding way’ fighting style. I feel like that should count for two.

@artembentsionov Жыл бұрын

@@KeytarArgonian right, but don’t they use Prana Bindu techniques to meditate and reach the level of preparation necessary for the Agony?

@excelsior8682 2 жыл бұрын

12:09 Those bombs were actually much MUCH older technology in terms of weaponry. It was not standard whatsoever and EXTREMELY expensive, and certainly wouldn't have worked outside of a sneak attack. But the Baron had to make a few sacrifices (AKA spend over 60 years worth of cash) in order to reclaim Arakis for himself. Which, I'm assuming, is what the Emperor wanted, in order to take care of two birds with one stone.

@catherinesanchez1185 2 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping this gets addressed further in the 2nd movie with the Baron and his nephews. One of them tries to have him "wacked" and it fails. He then explains to them how much $$ and effort he put forth to get control of Dune again , even knowing what the Emperor was doing . He was playing the long game , not for himself but that his "house" would be the most powerful in the future. He's a fascinating character. Also, did everyone note that all the Harkonens that serve him look thin and malnurished, while he's huge and eats meals that could serve 6 people? Great detail!!

@FemboyHasu Жыл бұрын

It was artilery, baron was proud of himself for using it but he had to disable shields in the city because he had a traitor to do that yueh. He hoped that Padishah the emperor would appreciate him for that.

@raymondhamill6702 7 ай бұрын

@FemboyHasuno if I remember Rabban asked The Baron if he could keep the Artillery after they defeat the Atriedes forces and The Baron says no that he's going to melt them down for the metal because they had done their job and had no real use for them after that

@EdWiley671 2 жыл бұрын

“Someone might imitate my stride” Sins: “They wouldn’t” Yes they would.

@robertglory6468 2 жыл бұрын

For an explanation, the shield is used to stop guns and slug throws. It stops fast moving objects. That’s why swords are used to heavily for combat and why the swords goes through the shield.

@themimsy 2 жыл бұрын

I just realized… The body shield technology in this movie follows the same logic as Oobleck. If you hit it quickly it stays solid and protective. If you push into it slowly it turns to liquid and doesn’t protect anything.

@THEShoky 2 жыл бұрын

So a non-newtonian energy shield.

@allisonpozzo 2 жыл бұрын

In reality, that's similar to how Kevlar works. Kevlar is more effective at stopping bullets because they are high velocity with low momentum, while you can still be slashed or stabbed through it (although some are designed to be resistant to blades as well).

@mcmarkmarkson7115 2 жыл бұрын

Too bad people in dune too stupid to wear armor that protects against knives under the shield

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 only in big landing ceremony. Something about a sneak attack on the planet made them not put their armor on.

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

They've been working on making non-newtonian body armor. Only issue so far is that it's way to heavy to be practical.

@Alphasnowbordergirl 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the shield protects against basically bullets which would have high velocity which made people go back to using blades which does not have enough velocity to be stopped by the shield. Basically the author's way to explain why swords are used in the future instead of guns. But the books don't matter so...

@Excalibur01 2 жыл бұрын

Adaptations like these don't care about the lore

@Alphasnowbordergirl 2 жыл бұрын

@@Excalibur01 I was quoting the cinemasins motto "the books don't matter" as stated in everything wrong with cinemasins. I have never watched either Dune Movies or read the books and any knowledge I have is because of Lost on Adaptation by Dominic Noble

@Symmonso96 2 жыл бұрын

@@Excalibur01 except they explain the movie and show it many times in action

@ukmediawarrior 2 жыл бұрын

According to the books they have advanced to the point of laser guns, let alone bullets, but invented shields to protect against bullets and found out if someone shoots a laser at someone wearing a shield the reaction is about the same as an atomic bomb going off .... so they don't do that and went to swords and knives again.

@Excalibur01 2 жыл бұрын

@@Symmonso96 But were those explanations IN the movie?

@gabrieldiehl1068 2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, the worms don't swarm the Harvesters because they have individual territories. Worms don't risk fighting another worm unless shields are involved[honestly yeah why don't they make shield decoys] so worms can be slower at attacking harvesters[though it is still only like, 10-20 minutes between each attack in the books]. As for the Worm in the desert, in the book it mentions a specific "trap" that can form in the sand that when stepped on basically does the same thing as a Shield[amplify the steps and subsequent collapse of the naturally occurring trap, basically signaling "Lots of big Tasty Food over this way." Could be slightly wrong though.

@chadharger9323 Жыл бұрын

It's not so much 'territory' but rather 'vibration'. If Worms feel unusual vibrations within the ground then they go after it no questions asked. It's like blood in the water for sharks. Even an individual running across the land is enough to set a worm off. Heck, a cat walking across Dune could set one off.

@archkull Жыл бұрын

@@chadharger9323 But Arrakis is still huge and even if say a cat set a sandworm off, it could end up with the cat leaving the worm's territory or reach rocks before the worm reaches it.

@ashleighparker4623 Жыл бұрын

yup you're right - the trap/fake shield is called a thumper in the books

@shankthebat8654 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when they found actual, you know, movie sins, instead of just snarking on the movie every chance they got.

@vKILLZ0NEv 2 ай бұрын

Pepperidge farm remembers

@becausebuzzbomb6133 2 ай бұрын

Funny that most of the chances they get come from their own ignorance. Stopped watching after a minute and a half. CinemaSins have become just a dumb "entertainment" channel with no depth of intelligence in it.

@nevmiku 2 ай бұрын

@@becausebuzzbomb6133 "Funny that most of the chances they get come from their own ignorance." Book is a prerequisite? +1 sin.

@Noir0rioN Ай бұрын

yeah. those were the days.

@davidtaylor142 2 жыл бұрын

I love the design of the ornithopters so much. Probably the coolest ship design I've ever seen while still being true to the book

@Kashis_Corner 2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the expanse? The Roci is pure perfection

@josiesbooksandbakes7 2 жыл бұрын

I know my dad and I were literally raving about them the whole movie was so wonderfully book accurate

@alyssamorgan747 2 жыл бұрын

@@josiesbooksandbakes7 uh, you realize that they gender-bendered a character, right? As in turning a male character, whose been male in the book and in the 1984 AND 2000 mini-series, as a female. That was not in the book. This was a stupid version that should never have been made.

@davidtaylor142 2 жыл бұрын

@@alyssamorgan747 that was pretty much the only thing that was changed and it changed nothing about the story. It does not matter what Liet Khines' gender is. Stop being a baby.

@FuckYoutube554 2 жыл бұрын

@@alyssamorgan747 Who gives a fuck lmao

@patrickriley674 2 жыл бұрын

“How do you know about my dreams?” “ I DO YOUR LAUNDRY PAUL!” Classic Cinemasins! 😂

@anumeon 2 жыл бұрын

But it could have had a bigger impact.. "How do you know about my dreams?" "THE SERVANTS WHO DO YOUR LAUNDRY TOLD ME PAUL!" :D

@RenegadeShepTheSpacer 2 жыл бұрын

Snore.

@mohammedmuneeb6888 2 жыл бұрын

Deserves more likes

@NibNa5ty Жыл бұрын

having not read the books, i loved this movie. The score is amazing and the visuals are just stunning

@maruf2050 Жыл бұрын

Same for me and I am very critical of most movies especially in recent times, but dune movie sucked me into the dune world.

@TraceguyRune Жыл бұрын

The cast is great too.

@chrismills7703 2 жыл бұрын

So you sinned the movie several times because "the shields don't protect anybody from anything," but then you also sinned the movie for Baron Harkonnen surviving the poison gas attack... which it was explicitly shown that he survived BECAUSE HE HAD HIS SHIELD ON

@mikyto7313 3 ай бұрын

The Baron survived because he flew to the ceiling. The gas passed through the shield as indicated by the buzz of red around him when Leto breaths out the poison.

@Mr.Mister974 2 ай бұрын

Thr shield just helped with him getting less poison and it also alerted him ti fly away@@mikyto7313

@oantimido 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, you don’t want really want to revisit how they portray space travel in the ‘84 film

@jesselona9713 2 жыл бұрын

That haunts me everyday

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 uhh no. The Baron was a calculated evil mastermind. Also a pedophile. Imagine also a fat Darth Vader armor look but still agile because the grav tech. The Lynch Baron was a disease ridden creepy weirdo that had heart plugs in his minions. Yeah nah.

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 back in the day they weren't comfortable with portraying the pedophile aspect. But making him physically sick and disease ridden is not accurate to the character. Dude also again work intimidating armor. Not naked all the time like they portray him all the time.

@cortarmstrong8768 2 жыл бұрын

@@philipmartin2919 lmao dude Chalamet and Zendaya are like objectively among the most attractive young actors in Hollywood

@vizz00 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 are you telling me Rebecca Ferguson isn't beautiful? Man, you are a mad lad

@hanklestank 2 жыл бұрын

I think when Paul puts the thopter into freefall, they are getting whipped around by the winds, kind of like in a tornado, but way more powerful - I think they mentioned the winds being around 600 km/h? So basically they've been getting bounced around in there for a bit, that's why he's passed out, then they finally get tossed up and out to 5,000 meters, and he's able to use the wings like a glider. At least that's what I got from the scene

@mundanestuff 2 жыл бұрын

Yup. "Free fall" should maybe be "free flight", he could have sung "Let It Go" or "Jesus Take the Wheel" to be more clear he was just not going to control the 'thopter, just letting the wind do whatever it wants to do with them. I just assumed they would float at whatever the wind speed is, like a balloon. In a hot air balloon, you don't feel the steady breeze, you feel the gusts. It seemed pretty logical to me at the time. The sketchy part is the wind can loft rocks of a certain size, I wouldn't expect the 'thopter to be held aloft by it too.

@TiberiusCreates 2 жыл бұрын

@@mundanestuff I recall the scene being much more in depth in the book. It really explains how he guides the thopter through the winds but without using the engine

@barence321 2 жыл бұрын

The novel calls the storms, "Coriolis storms," which is a fancy name for "sand hurricanes."

@hanklestank 2 жыл бұрын

@@barence321 Oh ya! I think they mention that name in the movie as well - something like "We chased them into a Coriolis Storm. Nothing could survive that..."

@camerongct 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 I am a little confused why you would recommend Lynch's film over this one, if your main dissatisfaction came from lack of faith to the original book. Lynch portrayed the weirding way as like, sound guns my man. It got some stuff right but also did entirely its own thing in a lot of ways. I would recommend the sci-fi TV show over both, honestly.

@BroncoBleymaier Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t a free fall. He stopped fighting the dabs storm and the updraft carried the chopper above the storm

@newmoon766 Жыл бұрын

Aaah, nostalgia. I read this book while driving from California to Virginia in 1975, in a black Dodge Dart without air conditioning. My older sister was doing the driving, my mom and her parents were crammed in the back. I was 14, so not driving yet, but rode shotgun as navigator. There wasn't much for me to do on those several days we spent driving across the Mojave desert on a highway where you could see a perfectly straight road stretching from horizon to horizon. Did I mention it was summer? We got a flat tire outside of Victorville, where it was 110 degrees. I got sun poisoning on my right arm, being on the south side of the car. Anyway, I made it through the whole book in those few days. So, I have a certain personal connection with Dune. And yes, the pace is very, very, very . . . sloooow. (We did stop at every cavern tourist spot we came across.)

@mrgreatbigmoose 2 жыл бұрын

What I love about Dune duels is that the shield gets relied on. Speed is no longer a factor, control is. Until you get on a planet where shields are useless. Then everything they'd learned is useless. Shield habits get you killed!

@FreemanicParacusia 2 жыл бұрын

You’d think traditional slugthrowers would make a comeback in an environment where shields are useless. Cheaper than a lasgun and highly effective.

@BDarOZ 2 жыл бұрын

that is, if it was portrayed properly. as it is, the shields do nothing really, duncan fights as fast as someone would do without shields, and still goes through enemies shields like butter

@masonwilliams4361 Жыл бұрын

@@FreemanicParacusia They don't do a good job explaining in the movie but you can't use lasguns on Shields because they both blow up That's why last guns are used on aracas no sheilds means no threat. The most usefull weapon against shilds are stone burners but those are Banned by the council of Lansrod

@callmefleet Жыл бұрын

@@FreemanicParacusia well the shield is powered by a phenomenon called the "Holtzman effect" and I don't the specifics of it but if a lasgun comes into contact with a shield, it would cause a nuclear explosion

@augustlavdal6187 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand those small ships when the villains invaded, they were able to bypass the big ships and blow them up? The whole shield thing got me confused and honestly not so interested. So many scenes of visions and slow scenes, they could have explained the shields better imo.

@LemonLord89 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind of frustrating watching this, knowing everything I know about the books and how Cinemasins got a lot of it wrong (such as how the shields work, or the fact that yes, Jessica and the other Bene Jesserit have the ability to choose the gender of their offspring) but at the same time understanding that that's less the fault of Cinemasins and more the fault of the movie for not explaining it better. I've read the books and loved the movie, but this video really highlights the difference in experience for those who know the books vs those who are completely new to the franchise.

@monmothma3358 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I haven't read the book and I only got the shield thing now (deduced the gender part, only way that comment made sense). Tricky balance, as too much exposition can make people feel spoon-fed, and you have to find a semi-natural way to the deliver the info. That's much harder in a movie than in a book.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

@@monmothma3358 yeah, a lot of it has to be "show, don't tell" so it doesn't get obnoxious, but people also need a bit of suspension of disbelief to understand that those things are possible in the context of the world of Dune without a deeper dive into details. that is why I think the movie is GREAT for people that already read the books, its a nice adaptation if you know what is going on inside the character's heads and a lot of the exposition. but hopefully we will get a director's cut or extended edition in the future that will include a lot of the cut content.

@pizzawashere8940 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, I feel like "Why didn't you chose a boy" implies there is a choice

@perseusveil9376 2 жыл бұрын

There's literally no need for the movie to tell or show how they can choose the gender. They are witches with weird powers > Check. They cross genetic lines > Check. The Reverend Mother expected Jessica to choose a daughter > Check. Thats it.

@vizz00 2 жыл бұрын

I think the whole choosing what gender to breed is pretty self explanatory when Mohiam literally says "you were told to only bear daughters"

@SerunaXI 2 жыл бұрын

Just a simple reminder that the story isn't set "8000" years in the future, it's more like 18000. That year counter that's at the start of the film is based on the formation of the Guild and their monopoly over space travel. Much of galactic politics stagnated for 10,000 years, and many people are well aware of that stagnation, and enforce it. We are watching the story of the moment that stagnation reaches a tipping point.

@chriszewski 2 жыл бұрын

With regard to the harvester and the worm and how its always attacked: Wasn't it mentioned in the film (maybe even during the dialogue Cinamasins is voicing over?) that there are indeed decoy operations to lead the worm a far distance from active harvesters? Could've sworn that was a thing.

@lalalachacha248 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the in-depth description of how they wasted Yueh. That was the only issue I had with the movie.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

for me it was that and skipping the dinner scene. but I guess they really wanted to keep the mystery of the betrayal, so while in the book it follows Yueh and we know from the beginning what is going to happen, in the movie a different approach is more interesting. though I wish they had shown more of Yueh and the meaning of the emperor's mark, though to be fair that would probably have been a huge red flag about his potential betrayal.

@Kronical69420 2 жыл бұрын

The entire movie lacked character development. As beautiful looking as it is at points, this movie just wasnt very good. No dinner. Lack luster fights.

@Sam_T2000 2 жыл бұрын

if I could make one change to the script, I’d add a “dinner scene” on Caladan, after the Change Ceremony, where they sit around and give us some basic explanation of the politics and CHOAM and such, possibly introduce Irulan and Feyd, and give us some info about Yueh and hints at his plight. but in defense of the script as-is, the Atreides were doomed no matter what… if it wasn’t Yueh that betrayed them, the Harkonnens would’ve found another way to destroy them.

@markanthony1004 Жыл бұрын

@@danilooliveira6580 Both of those are huge omissions

@lbwlawyer 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, do not mock the space bagpipes. Saw this in a theater and trust me, SPACE BAGPIPES ROCK

@reikun86 2 жыл бұрын

Especially in IMAX. A+ for sound editing.

@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын

There were no bagpipes in the book. I guess the filmmakers couldn't wrap their minds around the baliset, which both Gurney and Paul play. Oh, and this takes place 20,000 years in the future, not 8000. The people of the Imperium reckon their calendar as starting the year of the formation of the Spacing Guild, which was 10,191 years previously.

@mycroft16 2 жыл бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani It's a stylistic choice, not a "we have no clue" choice. Much like Moulin Rouge used modern music in place of period correct music. Using music the audience would identify with in terms of mood and energy as opposed to what a period correct audience would have identified with allows US to get into the same kind of mood they would have. It's the same sort of thing here. We know what bagpipes mean. We know how they are used. We know the history of them in battle, funerals, etc. So they set the tone for us. A baliset wouldn't do that because what the hell is a baliset anyway? It works in a book because you don't have to hear it or see it. It can be whatever. But in a film, it's different.

@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын

@@mycroft16 There's a video of Patrick Stewart playing a baliset. It's a stringed instrument that (to my ears) combines a guitar with some sort of eastern European stringed instrument (as it would, given the context of the novel). So Lynch treated the moviegoers as though we could understand this concept. Villeneuve treated the moviegoers as though they were idiots who couldn't wrap their minds around new ideas. Balisets are played both in the Imperium and among the Fremen (Jamis owned one, which Paul inherits). I'd fall off my chair laughing if it turns out that Paul inherits a set of bagpipes from Jamis. Loud, rhythmic sounds... just the thing to call a worm, or at least deafen everyone else if played inside the sietch...

@astrosherlock374 2 жыл бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani Are u fucking daft? Baliset is the personal choice of instrument for Gurney, he plays it as a poet and bard, hell, there's a deleted scene of Brolin playing the Baliset. The bagpipes are the Anthem of House Atreides who trace there lineage to the Greek king Agamemnon, also where bagpipes were heavily used. Not to mention the weather of the planet Caledan is wet, cold, and very reminiscent of the current UK. Also the name Caledan is the play on the name Caledonia, the Latin name for Scotland. There's a reason Bagpipes WORK, it makes SENSE in the context of the house's history and place.

@jiveaces 2 жыл бұрын

These types of “critiques” are everything wrong with the internet in one sentence or less.

@waltermalone216 2 ай бұрын

Everyone has known for years this is satire.

@anthonywesley5306 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this “sin” counting was like having a conversation with someone who’s really stupid

@Jayk129 2 жыл бұрын

I just want to say, as a huge DUNE fan, the Quiz Master Burt Bacharach joke was chef’s kiss good.

@NicolaiAAA 2 жыл бұрын

That cracked me up. My dad and I call it the Cuisinart's Hatrack. 🤣

@Zadkiel862 2 жыл бұрын

"What is this glow sphere?" A glow....globe. It is literally a floating flashlight...

@petarded8529 2 жыл бұрын

Right? How is that a sin? I want one.

@nationalhamleague5352 2 жыл бұрын

The stupidity

@Amber_Oakheart 2 жыл бұрын

As a Canadian, the use of meters for the worm and feet for depth didnt feel out of the ordinary, we switch it up all the time here xD

@lewismisselbrook5558 2 жыл бұрын

“Quiz Master Burt Bacharach” dude that got me 😂

@tigerstache8132 2 жыл бұрын

The fact they didn't give a sin off for the unbelievably amazing sound design makes me sad. But yeah unless you either read the books or had someone to answer all your questions who did I can't imagine how you weren't confused as hell leaving this movie

@MajorMlgNoob 2 жыл бұрын

I mean the narrative is pretty straightforward

@sydneemckinzie3202 2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't confused at all. I absolutely loved it

@eZaFVulcan 2 жыл бұрын

i think this is just you, the movie was very easy to follow

@EightThreeEight 2 жыл бұрын

@@MajorMlgNoob Actually, it IS quite complicated. But the film is so well paced that you don't really notice.

@CheB4900 2 жыл бұрын

The overall is easy to follow but the overall significance of everything is lost

@civil_villain 2 жыл бұрын

The shield protects you from a quick glancing blow with a blade; which would be very effective in a fast paced one-on-several bladed fight.

@stevenminuteman8996 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s a silly sin for a few reasons, first the shield is good because it stops fast moving objects, wonder why there are no guns? Shields would stop the bullets therefore making them useless. This is obviously not shown because any truly fast weaponry would have stopped being made as soon as everyone got a shield. Second the reason why the shield doesn’t always stop the weapons is because it’s extra effective against untrained soldiers who don’t know how to slow their strike at the right time. Of course most soldiers are able to do this but you still have it for the few times it does block a hit.

@civil_villain 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenminuteman8996 Exactly!

@Real_MisterSir 2 жыл бұрын

Then one easily wonders why they didn't use physical shields too, or spears. Swords have never been a main weapon of any armed melee combat anywhere, they have always been used as backup or compromise. If everyone knows what these energy shields are and how to get around their weaknesses, you'd think that just a single intergalactic faction would have invested resources into mitigating those glaring drawbacks. For all intents and purposes, Dune is just not very well written. It is incredibly expansive, but the details leave a lot to be desired.

@shaftshaft 2 жыл бұрын

@@Real_MisterSir were you really hoping they’d spend 20 minutes explaining why tech to defeat the shields hadn’t been made yet?

@munstrumridcully 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Like when Duncan was fighting off groups of Harkonnen soldiers, and their panicked blows were too quick so they just skidded off the shield. As an aside-- Duncan Idaho was a _BAAAAD_ man! He not only fought his way out of the ambush while being incredibly outnumbered-- my man killed multiple Sardaukar! That _must_ have hurt their warrior pride... Can't wait for part 2 to see how the Freman do against them!

@saren874 Жыл бұрын

Missed one: Paul enters a fight to the death but doesn't do anything to prevent his hair from obscuring his vision.

@josefzalusky7307 2 ай бұрын

He's just built different

@soulfury123 2 жыл бұрын

The pacing and style of this movie really did Herbert justice. I found that most of the dislikes by the sub creator were just his comical tone. You could apply it to a person walking across the street and it would make them seem silly. Wow, look at that, one foot in front of the other. Who would have thought that out?

@MrJakeasaur98 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this movie so this was gonna be a tough one for me to watch, but the point about Dr Yueh resonates with me because the film was definitely lacking enough explanation about his character. I understand why some scenes were missing for pacing purposes, but the explanation behind Dr Yueh's betrayal has always felt like a really important part of the story to me.

@howardmiller5381 2 жыл бұрын

To a certain extent, I think that Denis Villeneuve trusts that most people who watch this movie already know the Dune back story, or won't get Imperial Conditioning without a lot of exposition. Maybe they made a stab at it and cut the scenes in post.

@markanthony1004 Жыл бұрын

It basically launched the story and there’s should’ve been more explanation

@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629 Жыл бұрын

@@howardmiller5381 Yeah maybe like 1% of people have read the books and know the backstory, explanation to his background was definitely needed

@akinah3827 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I didn't watch it. Looks horrible

@jonathanmarkoff4469 Жыл бұрын

@@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629 Indeed. Movies don't get to assign required reading.

@SolCresta3405 2 жыл бұрын

20:23 - All this ending needed was a “To be continued” or a “To be concluded” to make this complete.

@NickOnFire1490 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, when this movie was made Dune Part 2 hadn’t been greenlit yet, so they didn’t officially know they would be able to make a Part 2 until after Part 1 had come out.

@SolCresta3405 2 жыл бұрын

@@NickOnFire1490 But considering we clearly had “Part One” in the title…

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@lainiwakura1776 2 жыл бұрын

@@SolCresta3405 Because it wasn't the complete story.

@SolCresta3405 2 жыл бұрын

@@lainiwakura1776 I know that. That’s why we needed a “To be continued” or “To be concluded” in this ending.

@thegrownsimmer9472 8 ай бұрын

LOL everytime he'd have a premonition/dream of Zendaya i'd go "another Zara commercial"

@nobodynemoq 2 жыл бұрын

4:56 You simply killed me with "I DO YOUR LAUNDRY, PAUL" 🤣

@barence321 2 жыл бұрын

I liked the jokes about the Guild Heighliner (ovulating? sperming?), but the point of those shots was to show how unbelievably fricking HUGE that thing is. Remember the enormous Imperial ship with the carpet? Compared to the Heighliner it is a tiny insignificant speck. Same for the Atreides and Harkonnen warships. The Guild is the most powerful force in the Dune universe. Nobody messes with the Guild. Not even the Emperor.

@TransientWitch 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, that's not true. One person messes with the Guild. The power to destroy something proves you have absolute control over it. And they do not control the spice...Do they? =3

@barence321 2 жыл бұрын

@@TransientWitch Even Emperor Paul "Muad'dib" Atreides leaves the Guild pretty much alone. If I recall correctly, the Ixians manage to make ships that don't need Guild navigators, but that happens during Leto II's multi-thousand-year reign. I might have that completely wrong. It has been years since I read the novels.

@Lordborgman 2 жыл бұрын

@@barence321 Wait till they hear about No-Ships and Chair-Dogs.

@TransientWitch 2 жыл бұрын

@@barence321 he forces them to agree to his terms, unconditionally...because he threatens their only source of relevance...which is what I was referring to. He told them to halt the attack on Arrakis, and barely addressed Shaddam until he was ready to lay down the terms of his reign as Emperor, and that was mostly to tell Shaddam he would be giving over Irulan's hand and accepting permanent exile to a reformed Salusa Secundus. And that he would give all of his CHOAM profits to Paul as dowry. He may not have done much after that, but he most certainly put the Guild and Imperium in a vice

@magicmulder 2 жыл бұрын

The Guild’s power lies in their navigators’ control of interstellar travel, not military strength. Heighliners are basically teleporting warehouses, they would not stand a chance against warships.

@ampersand08 2 жыл бұрын

I *love* how drawn out this movie is. I think it's one of the most effective stylistic choices the movie makes.

@TraceguyRune Жыл бұрын

The movie isn't drawn out. Have you read the book? The movie covered like 10% of the first 1/3 of the book.

@ampersand08 Жыл бұрын

@@TraceguyRune That's ... that's literally the definition of drawn out, my guy.

@excaliburknives3572 3 ай бұрын

I don’t. It makes for a fucking dull movie watching experience.

@ampersand08 3 ай бұрын

@@excaliburknives3572 Okay!

@stephendaniels4818 9 күн бұрын

I can’t believe you missed the fact Leto wakes up to a light while Paul stays asleep during the bombing

@jesmarina 3 ай бұрын

I love the drawn out scenes without much action - paired with the music and sound-design it is filled with atmosphere and a lot of the explanations about the environment from he book are done visually, which I love. The visual and sound design is stunning in this movie. I agree on the very thin description of Doctor Yueh - it is missing so much. I think some sins off for just being an awesome movie, would be in its place, but hey......it's your rodeo and I enjoy the ride every time.

@joe970 2 жыл бұрын

1:50 Not to go against the almighty sinners, but Dune is actually set over 20,000 years in our future....the year reset after a galaxy wide war against AI and machines and such....so yeah.....SIN!

@MSUParker 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like Skynet

@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын

It's 10,191 years after the formation of the Spacing Guild. The Butlerian Jihad was a war between opposing ideologies, not literal robots. People who bother to read the Appendices of the Dune novel would know these things.

@lykeice1069 2 жыл бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani ACCCKKKKSHUALLLLLY!

@edwardmccabe7650 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he never removes a sin for anything in this film, wether it’s the VFX, acting or just the ornithopter, is a sin in itself!

@summertyme5748 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on the Ornithopters. Film deserves FX Oscar’s just for that!

@danielbernini 2 жыл бұрын

Right? I love Cinema Sins, even when they destroy filmes I also love, but this one felt more.... bitter? Not sure, it was the first EWW video that I felt more whiny than fun, it was strange, lol.

@Mediocre_Music 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielbernini Yeah, there was a video I saw recently about how they pretty much miss the point of most movies and have 0 ability to suspend disbelief, but I’m indifferent

@TibsPlays 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was looking for this comment. I’m all for nitpicking and tearing films apart for entertainment, but come on, not ONE sin off? This movie had so many incredible elements!

@neo1343 2 жыл бұрын

Can we make a video to just sin Cinema Sins lmao

@NyamatsatseWacho 2 жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity at 3:53 to say, "That is MAHOGANY!" 😂

@TraceguyRune Жыл бұрын

1:44 I take it you've never read the book before. That's clearly without a doubt a a suspensor lamp, ripped straight out of Chapter 1.

@SPCv4 Жыл бұрын

The whole motto of this channel is that he sins the movie, not the books that the movie was based on.

@acidsugarz 2 жыл бұрын

NOT A SINGLE SIN REMOVED FOR THE AMAZING CHOREOGRAPHY OR SOUNDTRACK?!?!

@Janken_Pro 2 жыл бұрын

Um. What choreography?

@carsonbrown3961 2 жыл бұрын

@@Janken_Pro choreography just means the planned movements on screen, so the fights and stylized movement scenes

@Janken_Pro 2 жыл бұрын

@@carsonbrown3961 i know. But what was so special regarding choreography here?

@carsonbrown3961 2 жыл бұрын

@@Janken_Pro I think they just mean that the fights were very well choreographed

@Janken_Pro 2 жыл бұрын

@@carsonbrown3961 i got that, but how are they very well choreographed?

@cromwell300 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair in those fights scenes the wielded of those blades are so well trained that they are able to swing at the right speed to initiate the killing blow and pass the shields. We can see this when the Atreides are fighting the Harkonnen footmen and it takes a while for anyone to die. Then when the Sardaukar show up they are so damned good that they are able to bipeds the Atreides shields with little issue. And yes I am a nerd

@MausOfTheHouse 2 жыл бұрын

Nerd alert

@fenriraldrek1022 2 жыл бұрын

in my fencing group we actually tried dune style fighting with daggers (slowing a certain amount before contact) and it is... very weird.

@danielsterling3995 2 жыл бұрын

The next step, nerd, is to give us something free for a price

@agnez9711 2 жыл бұрын

@karladrian9556 2 жыл бұрын

NEEEEEEEEERRRD

@koltonwelch3051 2 жыл бұрын

Can we talk about how almost nowhere in this movie anyone talks at a normal tone? I felt like everyone was whispering all the time and none of it made sense

@joshualavender 2 жыл бұрын

Jessica: "I have to tell you something important about Paul." Leto: "I don't want to hear it. I'm completely uninterested in whatever important thing you have to tell me about my only son and heir. Also, I'm horribly insecure. Hold me!"

@Zombiesnyder13 2 жыл бұрын

I love a blockbuster that thinks outside the box Especially during an era where every big studio wants to be like Disney in terms of tone

@eliascrooker7773 2 жыл бұрын

Most Disney films are better than this half-movie.

@user-yt2xv1gs7l 2 жыл бұрын

Eh they took an old popular book, that had been already adapted

@loopybrogaming1149 2 жыл бұрын

this movie was dogshit

@jjcymbolic 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone has an opinion, as they should. But I agree. Frankly, from my opinion, Disney mainly makes movies I can't stand.

@johanvanderpants9363 2 жыл бұрын

They took old source material and remade a movie to start a series of yearly blockbuster releases. That’s literally the MCU playbook. They even cast a ton of people that are in the MCU. That’s about as Disney as it gets.

@neo1343 2 жыл бұрын

honestly the biggest issues are of this movie is really just the dialogue, too much whispering under their breaths, without the subtitles it was hard to tell what some of them were saying

@agnez9711 2 жыл бұрын

@fortsterling5130 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they tried too hard to avoid the internal dialogue but also include some of the thoughts people are having. It makes it feel kinda forced

@neo1343 2 жыл бұрын

@@fortsterling5130 it was legit the volume for me. I didn’t mind the pace, I went into the movie expecting it to sorta be a world building slow burner. But the dialogue volume was a mild issue. Kinda similar to Tenet in a way

@hiepowell1269 Жыл бұрын

I love watching these videos and you are extremely funny, this one takes the cake however. Your humor in this had me LOL'ing. "Nobody Panic"

@Kashis_Corner 2 жыл бұрын

I’m definitely telling my son that “goodbye young human I hope you live” line 😅😅

@Exasperaties 2 жыл бұрын

The palm xylophone transition to, "Look, I don't know what it is, and you don't either. Shut the fuck up" killed me lmaoo.

@mrbejam Жыл бұрын

“Ornithopter won’t start cliché” Yup. That was the one that made me think to watch this video 😆

@Thatonedude90 Жыл бұрын

Why does cinema sins act like he is watching a factually sound documentary but it’s actually a sci fi fantasy

@jwood8769 2 жыл бұрын

This movie is long n slow, but I absolutely loved it. It’s everything I wish they did to the Star Wars franchise instead of trying to make them an MCU franchise.

@Kur0m0ri 2 жыл бұрын

So true. I hated the new trilogy mostly because there are already so many amazing star wars comics and novels out there they could have used for reference. But disney wanted 2 directors to work on them who put the tone of the movies all over the place. Also, i think the prequels did a fantastic job in showing of many really creative designs of planets and locations, something the new movies lacked completely

@kongming66 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏 Hit the nail on the head

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing is slow after you've watched Tarkovski's Solaris \ Stalker movies :)

@187420666es 2 жыл бұрын

Calm down dude it’s just a movie

@jackcassidy9963 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kur0m0ri Tbf the prequels were also pretty lacking in good writing and plagued by bad pacing

@mcameron1981 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of these points could be explained by some narrative exposition. But I think a certain film from 1984 has shown us that that isn't always the best idea.

@r34p3r_here 2 ай бұрын

I almost died from old age after watching this movie in the theater.

@MuSlaaf Ай бұрын

cluh

@thewestisthebest6608 Ай бұрын

The thing about the Sardaukar is that they have gotten a bit soft over the years. They fraught many wars in the past and brought all the great houses to heel but that was a long time ago. Now they’re mostly just the Emperors ceremonial army and in fact this is why the Emperor feared house Atreides. Because Duke Leto was building up his forces and training them heavily. He also was well liked by the other houses and so the Emporer feared a rebellion might be on the horizon. That’s why he killed them. Out of fear.

@SpartanAPPOLLO 2 жыл бұрын

As a book reader, I really enjoyed this movie, it’s a very satisfying adaptation! I really enjoy watching Cinemasins on movies I enjoy to see the faults, and the gaps in explanation, that I don’t notice. Plus a lot of the subtle jokes they make at the movies expense are top tier! The glow sphere joke is probably my favorite 😂😂 also the “blooper” jokes at the end were so on point! Nailed this one Jeremy and team!

@generalnawaki 2 жыл бұрын

I loved it, it's honestly one of my favorite movies and not just because of the balls to the walls, pleasure center of the brain tickling that is the music score.

@BigBearAce 2 жыл бұрын

I both loved and disliked the movie because I'm a fan of the books. Visual BEAUTIFUL though.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

yeah the problem with the movie is that its not a bad adaptations, the problem is that its an adaptation for people that already read the books. if you read the book a lot of it fits and make sense to you, but if you didn't a lot can be easily misinterpreted or straight up go over your head.

@RenegadeShepTheSpacer 2 жыл бұрын

This comment was planted for sure.

@njm2699 2 жыл бұрын

@@danilooliveira6580 yeah no doubt, I went into the theater w/o reading the book and I understood the plot and everything, but was confused by some of the nuances such as the way the shields operate or the sort of emphasis on the worms to the fremen religion, or how Duncan Idaho, Paul, and Jessica were able to get out of Arrakeen. It wasn’t until reading the book shortly after where I understood a lot of these things. Herbert explains how for instance their was a planted Ornithopter for Duncan Idaho to escape for instance, or that Lasguns when coming into contact w a shield will cause essentially an atomic-like bomb to go off etc. or that Fremen don’t wear shields bc it is essentially worthless (and also why they have projectile weaponry such as what Paul was aiming when coming into conflict w Stilgar’s sietch). After reading the book, the movie was much easier to follow for those reasons.

@perceivedvelocity9914 2 жыл бұрын

This movie does not take place 8,000 years from now. It takes place 10,000 years after a Terminator style war against thinking machine's that almost lead to humanities extinction. A new calendar was created after the war. The movie didn't mention anything about it. Honestly the only reason why this matters is because it explains why they do not use computer's in the distant future.

@agnez9711 2 жыл бұрын

@CarlyCatharsis 2 жыл бұрын

--N-E-R-D--

@sectorgovernor 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's actually around 18 000 years later. I would have written the approximately year according to our calendar in that scene.

@stevenscott2136 2 жыл бұрын

The bot ad in the first reply kind of proves the Butlerian Jihad had a point.

@kristy6643 2 жыл бұрын

i love u cinemasins thank u for making me laugh love, a huge dune fan

@DaTux91 3 ай бұрын

I recently watched this movie and I straight up don't remember about 50% of these scenes.

@Jon-uu4fj 2 жыл бұрын

This is great. Dune is one of my favourite books ever so I watched this through a very biased lens. This is basically, "all the shite that doesn't make sense if you haven't read the book". Which probably explains why my gf hated it.

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

yeah I think that is the biggest problem with the movie, it feels like it was made for people that read the book and already know all the nuances and inner monologues going on.

@issaggg1087 2 жыл бұрын

as someone who hasnt read the book (only know a summary of it) but going into it as a fan of Denis Villeneuves films it was pretty easy tocatch onto the whole story, that being said it is a film that demands your attention the whole time.

@fleshy07_40 2 жыл бұрын

I never read the books but I love this movie, I like how fight scenes weren’t just the entire movie and there was a story

@papabird4425 2 жыл бұрын

I have met or even heard of an incredibly few women that enjoy dune.

@josefzalusky7307 2 ай бұрын

I'd never even heard of Dune before this movie came out, and I fucking LOVE how little explanation there is. You get the bare minimum and then you're dropped into Paul's shoes, treated like you already live in this world. Instead of an exhausting amount of explanation, the world is shown to you, you experience it. Dune, parts 1 and 2 now, respect my intelligence as a viewer to pick up on and track with what I'm being told and shown, and that is a bigger and better achievement than almost anything else in the movie.

@Tridus 2 жыл бұрын

For the sin 135. He does have a Sherlockian way to predict the enemies moves. He checks all possible outcomes two days before the fight

@archkull Жыл бұрын

Also he was literally trained by Duncan and another legendary fighter since he was a child.b

@adsfornothing3146 Жыл бұрын

yeah that's the whole point, he can see the future

@dr.matthewhertert310 3 ай бұрын

i LOVE how you guys felt the need to put a giant arrow indicating the HUGE GLOWING LIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN hahaaaa

@joshuaperraton6748 3 ай бұрын

“Maybe I’m missing some fear cues” my brother in Christ the introduction to Baron Harkonnen is literally directly inspired by the reveal of Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now… it’s so fucking clear

@theexdoge4753 2 жыл бұрын

Duncan just pulled a blade out of his chest, I think you can excuse him for being a bit vocal.

@taylorbeagley3120 2 жыл бұрын

"I DO YOUR LAUNDRY PAUL!" I haven't laughed that hard in a long time 😂

@willieetcheto5211 2 жыл бұрын

Love these videos! Well done

@elibrown72 2 жыл бұрын

This video was AMAZING and HILARIOS, nice job cinimasins

@Mike__B 2 жыл бұрын

My two biggest gripes with the movie first it's all the publicity Zendaya did for this movie yet it seems like she's in all of 5 minutes of the movie, and two... the sequel did not get greenlit until after the movie came out, where as other big movies would be filming the sequel while all the post production work is done on the first so you usually have to wait maybe a year to see it, part two however isn't set to START filming until this summer... and damnit don't make me wait like that!

@timredlich2170 2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, the sequel probably would have been filmed directly after the first, if it was a standard blockbuster ala marvel. Because Villeneuve decided to go for a more artsy and slow adaptation while keeping the budget high, the risk was just way to high for the studio to greenlight and film one of the most expensive movie sagas, which could've been a flop.

@Mike__B 2 жыл бұрын

@@timredlich2170 Oh absolutely it was too much for the studio to give him a check. That said, as a viewer I don't care about silly things like money, I saw another "Golden Compass" where we're left with a partial story and the hopes that it does well enough to finish it in the case of Dune yes it is, the Golden Compass they just dropped it.

@magicmulder 2 жыл бұрын

They should’ve filmed it back to back like the Lord of the Rings movies.

@carsonbrown3961 2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, Zendaya has the public eye in the way some of the other actors in this don’t even if some of them are better actors

@danilooliveira6580 2 жыл бұрын

Chani should have a bigger part in the next movie when we see Paul joining the freemen

@kevinclapson 2 жыл бұрын

Any combatants ability to penetrate a shield at the end of a quick blade movement is effectively a display of how insanely good they are with a blade. Able to cease such quick movement in time to land a blow. Both Duncan and Gurney are widely considered to be among the best blademasters alive.

@mycroft16 2 жыл бұрын

With Duncan being an actual Sword Master, trained on Ginaz from a young age. Literally one of the best fighters in the universe.

@SentreNet 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this movie, but couldn't wait to see ur vid on this! Thank you!

@Cybereve Жыл бұрын

That CMBYN peach joke caught me completely off-guard😂

@hosstyle4926 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you did this video from the perspective of someone who didn’t know dune existed before this movie

@vossti 2 жыл бұрын

5:00 How does she know about my dreams ,- i do your laundry !" ,🤣🤣 Dude that's gold!!

@Astrel_Debrovnik 3 ай бұрын

1: Shields are used to stop FAST moving objects, like projectile wepons and blades. The way to penetrate the sheild is to be slow on attack, and fast on defence so the shield deflects the blow. 2: Those flying "thingies" are glowglobes, lights, that GLOW. 3: The reason we dont see shields in fights later on in the movie is literaly stated later: : sheilds are a death sentence in the desert, it attracts the worm and drive it into a killing frenzy" And, if a lasgun ( future energy based wepon) hits a sheild, its a nukelear explosion. 4: The guy with a diamond tattoo, he's Dr Wellington Yueh, a Suk doctor. The best kind of doctor. I could go on for nearly ALL "sins", having read this book 3 times, all 6 Frank Herbert Dune Saga books, this movie is quite literally FLAWLESS.

@GlitchMan1011 2 жыл бұрын

I used to watch Cinemasins to see actual Cinema Sins committed during the movie, but at this point, its just pointing out everything in the movie, which aren’t even cinema sins.

@unknownchoujin1436 2 жыл бұрын

2:51 That "NEEEEEERRRD" just absolutely killed me.

@BWEEOOP 2 жыл бұрын

For the science-y and Bene Geserit powers stuff of Dune, Frank Herbert had a "It works because f--k you, that's why" attitude toward it

@Strutsss 2 жыл бұрын

"It just works!"

@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын

Also, the ecology of Dune. If you're wondering how there's a breathable atmosphere on a planet with (essentially) no water and no plant life... it's because the worms fart it out. Really. The worms make oxygen, on top of everything else they do.

@matheussanthiago9685 2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonblalock4429 @Jason Blalock I hate to be the ''akchtually'' guy, but Arrakis used to be inhabitable and not a water-less desert planet when someone planted the worms in the planet for unknown reasons, in bygone era, of an unknown origin the worms started terraforming the planet to it's current state, because they hate water or something but they didn't change oxygen content nor are they the origin of it, they only disrupted the water cycle

@trollerpilotxiv3079 2 жыл бұрын

@@Strutsss King Crimson wtf

@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын

@@matheussanthiago9685 Oxygen is cyclic too. We exhale CO2 which plants take in, and they excrete the O2 that we breathe, back and forth. With no plants on Dune for centuries, that cycle would be broken, and the atmosphere should be unbreathable. Hence, the need to say that worms create oxygen.

@alexpaul4144 Күн бұрын

Can’t wait for you guys to do part 2 even tho I loved it. Keep hoping for lotr extened editions later tho some great stuff was cut for time!

@RaptorMaitre Жыл бұрын

"I do your laundry, Paul!" Omfg 😂😂😂

@shaftshaft 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this movie. It’ll be interesting to see how the director makes the craziness to come accessible to a mass audience

@SuperFlawless2010 2 жыл бұрын

Did he tho? I was bored out of my mind and then it ends before Act 3.

@loopybrogaming1149 2 жыл бұрын

this was such a shit movie

@agnez9711 2 жыл бұрын

@kongming66 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 "different race"? When tf was Kynes' color *ever* discussed? And what fucking bearing did him being an implied white man in your eyes ever have on his impact to the story?

@kongming66 2 жыл бұрын

@@dukeofthedance8062 Lmao, incels always want to talk spicy but whine when the trolling comes back. You can take apart your little ethnosupremacist fantasy at the seams. Pick 1: 1) Liet-Kynes being Chani's parent is such an inconsequential factor that no one ever mentions it again, let alone even acknowledging the existence of her mother in more than passing 2) By your own logic, casting a dark skinned Afro-Brit as the mother of the mixed race American Zendaya makes even *more* sense, which shows how little your own check boxing does 3) The Zensunni ancestors of the Fremen were inherently a mixed group - right there in the name - so assigning ethnicities to them is dumb 4) The Imperium has a whole mixture of names from a bunch of nationalities pushed together 5) it's 25k years in the future 6) To paraphrase, "something something that blood will be passed to Paul's children." Ok Prince Charles, we know you're mad that the God Empower will be brown 😂 7) There was never any mention of where papa Kynes came from 8) The Fremen have such a range of skin tones that a Spaniard with a touch of makeup plays one

@mikdan8813 2 жыл бұрын

The year this is happening is NOT 10191 AD. The year this is happening is 10191 After Guild, which is actually 25 thousand years in the future.

@GrifoStelle 2 жыл бұрын

The bene gesserits were on a specific breeding program attempting to pass their witch powers to a male. They killed off every one of their sons in the attempt. What the heck??

@summertyme5748 2 жыл бұрын

They killed off failed breeding experiments because they were deemed too dangerous to let live. Actually if you know the future/history of this story - they made a mistake - from their viewpoint - in *letting Paul live.* Hint - but not quite spoiler - Paul isn’t actually the Kwisatz Haderach. He’s something more, and something else. *Something the BG will regret!*

@Cornrow_kenny 3 ай бұрын

I thought sins were supposed to reference plot holes/contrivances etc… Was the purpose of this video just to point out how much you don’t understand about the movie? I’m confused.

@carlsiouxfalls 2 жыл бұрын

This movie definitely deserved all those bonus sins. I like the movie and it being "faithful enough" to what I remember from reading the book, but all those dang visions of Zendaya just bugged the crap out of me.

@FemboyHasu Жыл бұрын

In the books he had visions more often and additionaly he had a visions of them kissing, fondling