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Cinematic Mode vs Cinema Camera INSANE RESULTS!

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@danielphotoa
@danielphotoa Жыл бұрын
Perhaps for the comparison to be more close, you should use nd filters for the iPhone to get the footage more similar, and maybe some color grading on the iPhone to match the Sony (: fun comparison overall! Can't wait to see more!
@yoganshbhatt
@yoganshbhatt Жыл бұрын
Mostly the raw footage had higher dynamic range in iPhone and using nd filters would've increased the difference even further. but yeah colour correcting to match the footages would've been nice but again it's the raw comparison that you get straight out of your camera 📷
@fahrness
@fahrness Жыл бұрын
Yes! and maybe the cinebloom filter
@IPauloHenrique
@IPauloHenrique Жыл бұрын
There's a big diference .
@itskelvinn
@itskelvinn Жыл бұрын
.
@brandon5697
@brandon5697 Жыл бұрын
Agreed😂
@Dr_cHeNGo
@Dr_cHeNGo Жыл бұрын
Not even close
@turusimpala7155
@turusimpala7155 Жыл бұрын
Of course. But, you can take the almost dslr quality footage with device in your pocket.
@turusimpala7155
@turusimpala7155 Жыл бұрын
@H M didn’t you ever hear something about colorgrading? To be honest, iPhone wins only in terms of size, but in some kind of situations 14pro is more than enough for taking cinematic footage. I choose iPhone for mobility.
@truecuckoo
@truecuckoo Жыл бұрын
iPhone nearly always turns everything too bright. Especially with the new HDR video. The HDR crazy blue skies vs Sony’s nearly blown out white skies should also be a conversation. Pro cinema footage is usually shot in a Log or Raw format and carefully graded per shot. Is this straight out of camera Cinetone? I would’ve kept a hint of blue skies in the Sony footage too.
@RoyalG
@RoyalG Жыл бұрын
tagging to not forget
@ejays99
@ejays99 Жыл бұрын
Should have used an ND on that iphone, it looks so much diff cause of the high shutter. Curious to see how close it would be if they were both ND'd
@thisiscuvo
@thisiscuvo Жыл бұрын
the details and edge detection would still look like shit anyway. It's passable on phone screen only.
@aiyzad._
@aiyzad._ Жыл бұрын
​@@thisiscuvo Yeah because it use cinematic mode which artificially blur but if it use tele lens it will have a better bokeh and nd filter for motion blur.
@MattLavergne4
@MattLavergne4 Жыл бұрын
We take the FX3 and FX30 everywhere we go for on-location shooting here at the office. Sony knocked it out of the park with these two bodies and iterations. (Plus we didn't have to sell our old APS-C lenses which was a perk and a half haha). One downside to the iPhone... It has to use Moment Anamorphic Lens and not the all-new BIG BOY Anamorphic 😍😍
@JakeMarcin
@JakeMarcin Жыл бұрын
Its getting closer! The iPhone quality is now really getting good enough to where its light and convenient, easy to use and the quality will not degrade your ability to tell the story. FX3 is way better but you have to have more time, money and put in way more effort to tell that story with it. No doubt it will look better, but will the story itself be better? I dunno anymore, its getting good enough for more and more people.
@riez1150
@riez1150 Жыл бұрын
If you upload things on TikTok or Instagram, it doesn't matter. Both will give you very good quality.
@apeleptic
@apeleptic Жыл бұрын
excuse the question but why is there no ND filter on the iphone for fair companion ? 😅
@allsimplekings
@allsimplekings Жыл бұрын
Love how straight to the point this video was 🙌🏼
@pdcorlis
@pdcorlis Жыл бұрын
Somewhere - price needs to be part of the calculation… As good as cinematic mode is (and it’s pretty damn good) it’s a feature on a phone - not a stand alone camera. If you price out the iPhone’s camera modules + programming - it’s nothing like the cost of a high end Sony cinema camera… the fact that this is a serious topic speaks well of the iPhone’s cinematic mode.
@AndysProTips
@AndysProTips Жыл бұрын
For daily vlogging scenes without complex objects like long hair or flowers or trees, cinematic mode is good enough.
@moment
@moment Жыл бұрын
Ok. Honest thoughts?
@VikasPanna
@VikasPanna Жыл бұрын
FX 3 Is Love 💕
@adex_smith
@adex_smith Жыл бұрын
Huge difference but apple will get there
@CalvinCarlo
@CalvinCarlo Жыл бұрын
I hope that Iphone 15 will have significantly bigger lenses, less to no more lens flare and the super zoom lens. That would be a beast!
@heydude994
@heydude994 10 ай бұрын
Why do videos recorded from a phone, no matter how high the resolution, have this over-sharpening effect? Normally I try in post-production to eliminate these effects by lowering the sharpness or noise or adding a smoothing filter or something like that but I don't know why that happens. Does it have to do with the size of the lens?
@FilmScape4K
@FilmScape4K 8 ай бұрын
Compensate for small sensor. To create detail that isn’t there in the first place.
@Jake-zc3fk
@Jake-zc3fk Жыл бұрын
That’s a tremendous amount of work, thanks so much for the effort!
@shahans3417
@shahans3417 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, You're made actual video, that was very perfect example & discussion. Thank you sir ❤
@adex_smith
@adex_smith Жыл бұрын
This video is very informative and has lot of quality. But the cinematic mode of the 14 is far better than the 13 now Imagine the 15. Apple will get there with the focus racking but maybe in iphone 17
@ivomaximiliano1
@ivomaximiliano1 Жыл бұрын
idk but apple annaounce that this years iphone will be the last
@itsTrickE1
@itsTrickE1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Apple investing in a bigger, better sensor using their camera technology now in a modular boxed-style cinema camera system. I would keep an eye out if they ever did that.
@trogdor
@trogdor Жыл бұрын
I can't get past how sharp and overly aggressive the shadow recovery going on from the iPhone.
@AntonioCamunas
@AntonioCamunas Жыл бұрын
I was just searching for this comparison video yesterday! Thanks for making this
@foveonyc
@foveonyc Жыл бұрын
Great test! Thank you!
@himanshupaliwal4298
@himanshupaliwal4298 Жыл бұрын
Hey team I am using moment app from past 1.5 year and it's great, just wanted to point out a problem which is that my videos are coming out unstable from my iphone 13 pro even the stabilization option is on in the settings and when I am shooting from native app it's just working fine as it should ! Please suggest something or roll out an update regarding this ! Hope you guys revert! ❤️
@kurvaczenko
@kurvaczenko Жыл бұрын
Sometimes i feel like Moment gave up on their app a long time ago
@Killer-d4s
@Killer-d4s Жыл бұрын
Sorry sir, it's not clashing at all because there are huge differences between two
@ansenvideoproduction
@ansenvideoproduction Жыл бұрын
Great review 💪🏻 nice mood
@stew_redman
@stew_redman Жыл бұрын
The processing in the phone to compensate for the lack of sensor and lens size is what really shows. Phone cameras are amazing, but only because of software. You can't beat physics. FX3 is a clear winner here.
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 Жыл бұрын
Not a test just iphone praise.
@mrbilginc
@mrbilginc Жыл бұрын
What about using ND filter for 24p motion blur? Cinematic @ 24p means motion blur. This is a must. I hope Apple brings a built in ND filter!
@whatcanwelearn9140
@whatcanwelearn9140 Жыл бұрын
NICE VIDEO EXPLAINATION
@jackpatmoreinc
@jackpatmoreinc Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the FX3 or A7SIII? I'm considering switching to Sony and can't decide! Also, do you have links to all of the Sony gear you all use?
@aeeam
@aeeam Жыл бұрын
Tag me when he answers😌🙈
@shafferzeyn9710
@shafferzeyn9710 Жыл бұрын
if you want professional filmmaking and videography buy Fx3, if videography(no filmmaking) and professional photography buy A7SIII or A7S4
@ejays99
@ejays99 Жыл бұрын
FX3 has a body style and cooling abilities much more tailored to video and filmmaking, plus the top handle with XLR ports for pro audio is clutch as well. I'd say get FX3 if you plan on shooting mostly video, but if you equally do video and stills, or more stills, go A7Siii. FX3 is vastly better though if you mostly want a video camera. I think the one potential better video feature the A7Siii has is the electronic viewfinder. Some people really want that for videography and they removed it for the FX3 for some reason.
@henakos
@henakos Жыл бұрын
Digital sharpening in contrasty situations (HDR is on?) is really bad. 😯
@ixography
@ixography Жыл бұрын
exactly why I dont like videos from my iphone I always add sharpening in post and the fact it can not be turned off when recording is a deal breaker
@xisanadu1
@xisanadu1 Жыл бұрын
YA IDIOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT " What's The Low Pass Filter and What's for ❓ and WHY YA NEED SHARPENING FUNCTION ON EVERY NLE EDITOR SUCH AS Premier Pro, FCPX & DaVinci ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓" ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 More than 90% of Dedicated DSLR/Mirrorless Cameras Have Got Low Pass Filter in 'em. And Only One of Rare Exceptions that Has " Low Pass-Less Filter " in It is Nikon's Flagship Z9 of Which Image is Far Close to i-Phone that YA IDIOTS ARE ALL AMAZED AT ITS CRISP & SHARP IMAGE MORON ❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕❕😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👻👻👻🤪🤪🤪
@shashank6393
@shashank6393 Жыл бұрын
The Fx3 footage makes me happy
@EspinalPhotography
@EspinalPhotography Жыл бұрын
I think it’s been mentioned that it’s not fair you did not put an ND filter on the iPhone for motion blur. 🧐
@moment
@moment Жыл бұрын
you'd need a way to control the shutter speed for that to matter.
@AnthonygoesApple
@AnthonygoesApple Жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, the iPhone's footage is strong for social content perfectly adequate - but the hdr processing throws off the cinematic look, no matter what ND-Filter or color grading you use. It is a big give away that when people shoot iPhone footage you know it's an iPhone. Amazing technology tho, but no where near a real cinema setup.
@rockrecordreport7136
@rockrecordreport7136 Жыл бұрын
No where near? I think the demos here and elsewhere are saying the exact opposite, iPhones are getting really close. With the right setting, fllters and grading - look out Sony, Canon, etc.
@JaroAtry
@JaroAtry Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the quality of the bokeh, iPhone video still just looks like phone video. I think it's mainly because the image is too sharp and it makes t quite ugly. The image from the cinema camera has a much softer character. If they could fix this, I think the iphone shots would be much nicer.
@WilmerBlanco
@WilmerBlanco Жыл бұрын
Sony Xperia 1 IV Cinematic mode vs iPhone 14 Cinematic mode. When?
@Always_crusin
@Always_crusin Жыл бұрын
Are you guys gonna make a case for the s23 line that would be nice
@valeriyvaleriy9563
@valeriyvaleriy9563 Жыл бұрын
from this video I was just convinced that a full-frame camera is a head above even the best shooting phone
@asamxs
@asamxs Жыл бұрын
Which is compare ? the video cannot compare in the first looking in your footage. the motion blur is too many diffence when the object moving and repeat.
@ChrisLaw84
@ChrisLaw84 11 ай бұрын
Think you should have done it without the ND filter on the Sony
@icepop4who
@icepop4who Жыл бұрын
Care to mention price in the video? How much was the FX3 rig? $10k?
@teedeww5049
@teedeww5049 Жыл бұрын
Cannot deny that the difference is big, so big tbh, but its big because the sony fx3 is phenomenal and the iphones still great. Cmon iphone ur killing it
@kumakick6038
@kumakick6038 Жыл бұрын
very good video
@GamersGuard
@GamersGuard Жыл бұрын
S23 ULTRA better than VIVO X90 Pro Plus for camera and overall?
@ninerlives
@ninerlives Жыл бұрын
It drives me nuts when I’m out with my Arri rig and people say “my (insert phone model) is probably better than that.” Amazing how much these brands have brainwashed people. The ignorance is also mind blowing. Phones are good for some things and social media, but NOTHING compared to a full rig. A gear build is also a tool specific to what you need of it. I’ll take true optics over AI any day.
@umbertoaguiar
@umbertoaguiar Жыл бұрын
An iPhone 14 Pro will be " NOTHING compared to a full rig' only if used as it was in this ill designed review. Ignore the mediocre cinematic mode, add a Beastgrip 1.7 tele lens, Freewell VND filter and Cinema P3 cam app to a 14 Pro and you can shoot images that most people, including seasoned professionals, will not be able to distinguish from images shot with a Sony FX 3 unless they watch those images on a TV set. But more and more people are watching videos and films on their phones and computers.
@umbertoaguiar
@umbertoaguiar Жыл бұрын
This review about how close an iPhone 14 Pro is getting to a real cinema camera makes no sense to me. Why compare a professional, fully rigged Sony camera with an iPhone 14 Pro on automatic white balance and using the mediocre, amateurish Cinematic mode ? Ignore the third class cinematic mode, add a Beastgrip 1.7 tele lens and/or a Freewell VND filter plus Cinema P3 cam app to a 14 Pro and you can shoot images that most people, including seasoned professionals, will not be able to distinguish from images shot with a Sony FX 3 unless they watch those images on a TV set. But more and more people are watching videos and films on their phones and computers. I worked with Sony ENG cameras for 20 years or so. Today, I would choose an iPhone 14 Pro over a Sony FX 3 ten times out of ten.
@Joshshepherd
@Joshshepherd Жыл бұрын
Colour profiles the biggest difference but for a phone its so impressive.
@_Sisyphus
@_Sisyphus Жыл бұрын
ND filter on one but not the other?
@dhupgalaxy1232
@dhupgalaxy1232 Жыл бұрын
Wow Sony 🤩
@stealthstar4
@stealthstar4 Жыл бұрын
He makes great points people but, when you are learning any camera professionally, you are taught in *MANUAL MODE* and not auto settings. These videos are great that KZfaqrs put out but they *always* leave out that *manual mode* is the main factor to being successful and not auto.
@mario.k
@mario.k Жыл бұрын
Colorgrsde it and add small blur to whole picture and halfway there
@lezapzap311
@lezapzap311 Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting
@jianweizhang1020
@jianweizhang1020 Жыл бұрын
Considering the size difference between the two device, iPhone is truly amazing!
@musicianscontent157
@musicianscontent157 Жыл бұрын
Cinematic = Calculated.
@mo_hawk_art
@mo_hawk_art Жыл бұрын
A few edits on the 14 pro and it should look similar
@floatingrabbit3556
@floatingrabbit3556 Жыл бұрын
View this on a large screen. Huge difference.
@theweirdshow2860
@theweirdshow2860 Жыл бұрын
You should do samsungs s23 ultra next.
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 Жыл бұрын
Cant you see this is an apple ad?
@sasmitha8446
@sasmitha8446 Жыл бұрын
Do the Vivo V90 Pro!
@sijilo
@sijilo Жыл бұрын
Cam era
@frankweightlossjourney
@frankweightlossjourney Жыл бұрын
I would say a KZfaq channel with great content and good editing. An iPhone is deff enough.
@mitotv6376
@mitotv6376 Жыл бұрын
Nice. .
@goatgodbydesign
@goatgodbydesign Жыл бұрын
Should have shot it on a S23 ultra. Full controle of white balance and shutter speed
@jasonhwu21
@jasonhwu21 Жыл бұрын
Did you do any post color grading?
@wrighty338
@wrighty338 Жыл бұрын
filter on the cinema camera vs no filter on the iphone seems legit 🤦‍♂
@theovstheo
@theovstheo Жыл бұрын
LOL
@tongdevol
@tongdevol Жыл бұрын
Rec709
@drusticc5667
@drusticc5667 Жыл бұрын
yes a filter was definitely the deciding factor here/s 💀
@wrighty338
@wrighty338 Жыл бұрын
@@drusticc5667 A company who creates content for a living to pedal their products should know better. Its not apples to apples but should as near as possible not just this vs that 🤡
@drusticc5667
@drusticc5667 Жыл бұрын
@@wrighty338 cinema cameras are very dull by default so it wouldn’t be a very great comparison without colour correction anyways.. iphone has internal processing automatically
@Rikkiandjodi
@Rikkiandjodi Жыл бұрын
What lens are you using ?
@Miracle_Chiedozie
@Miracle_Chiedozie Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that comparable is pretty dangerous, smartphone is threating real camera's not because it is better but because the untrained eye which is 98% may think it is same, or holds up
@AzharNazzar1
@AzharNazzar1 Жыл бұрын
U should mention lens N low light test 120 fps Vs i phone 4k 60
@fernandoz2023
@fernandoz2023 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said; "cinematic" does not just mean "bokeh." It's the whole package. Apple shouldn't misuse this word. They have made it so hard for me to look for "iPhone cinematic videos" since this mode was introduced. They should just call it the "bokeh mode."
@sherbournesubwaymess
@sherbournesubwaymess Жыл бұрын
Worst of all, was the FX3 flat? If so, that's not how that footage was meant to be seen. This reviewer didn't even bother to disclose this. He was too busy just mugging for the camera. It all just stinks. Philip "I beat women" Bloom did this for a living.
@schoeferfilm
@schoeferfilm Жыл бұрын
I have the Fx6 for nearly two years and now I have the iPhone 14 pro max too 😅 it is nice to have a small cam for holidays but I think the FX6 is a cam beast and the iPhone is cool but it is still a iPhone 😂
@GabagoolForeverAndAlways
@GabagoolForeverAndAlways 11 ай бұрын
Is he using the FX3 here?
@Amiinfocusyt
@Amiinfocusyt Жыл бұрын
If the the iPhone had proper shutter, it would be fine lmao
@taufikrahman9247
@taufikrahman9247 Жыл бұрын
Hiii bro .. When update firmware or new fitur for moment apps🥹
@KookinHaole
@KookinHaole Жыл бұрын
Y’all are in Oceanside?
@wasil3k
@wasil3k Жыл бұрын
Will there be any phone case for galaxy s22 ultra?
@tido1303
@tido1303 Жыл бұрын
Coi tới coi lui chỉ có cam ip là t ưng nhất >
@ixography
@ixography Жыл бұрын
the problem with the iphone is the amount of sharpening which cant be turned off. Makes it look cheap in my opinion..
@NARRASSAFilmes
@NARRASSAFilmes Жыл бұрын
Iphone is a pro câmera killer.
@UnlimitedUtopia
@UnlimitedUtopia Жыл бұрын
Ip 14 turned you into Donald trump with that orange skin
@pyle_vi
@pyle_vi Жыл бұрын
are you from kansas city!?
@mbredits7401
@mbredits7401 Жыл бұрын
Which phone is better than short film ???
@stuky
@stuky Жыл бұрын
Why not put a lens on the iPhone then compare
@lensindra1
@lensindra1 Жыл бұрын
Good video and photo on iPhone 14 pro but over colorful make is look flat and fake special on sky.
@priteshghag7953
@priteshghag7953 Жыл бұрын
It's a human who invented the phone, speaks a lot. :)
@dyllantoledo3560
@dyllantoledo3560 Жыл бұрын
What soundtrack was used in 0:40?
@TCEInterviews
@TCEInterviews Жыл бұрын
The only people who will truly notice a difference on social are the minority of pixel peepers. An iPhone with good filters, lenses, and person holding it is more than enough for 90% of what you’d ever wanna film. Where do phones truly hail in comparison? Lowlight and focal length. But even the focal length can be tweaked with a Beastgrip DOF adapter. Let the FEW professionals use what they need to use and let the VAST MAJORITY of people enjoy the killer quality of an iPhone. People need to understand the difference in niche when it comes to filming something. Some people want it simple while others wanna do all the twists and twirls and annoying ramps/ transitions with a $5000 camera.
@rockrecordreport7136
@rockrecordreport7136 Жыл бұрын
They want to justify their superior $25,000 Red camera. And they HATE what iPhones are doing.
@TCEInterviews
@TCEInterviews Жыл бұрын
@@rockrecordreport7136 absolutely. I’d be mad af too if I spent a ton on gear just to have some average Joe get highly acceptable results with his stupid phone🤣
@jasonhwu21
@jasonhwu21 Жыл бұрын
Amazing production! Sony is better imo
Жыл бұрын
Global shutter, anamorphic, Helios, dynamic range, highlight rolloff = cinematic. 😅
@nahkanukke
@nahkanukke Жыл бұрын
As new user on Iphone pro max 14 i am so happy what it can deliver on the photo and video quality for the money. As you said on pro you can spend whatever money. Actually i was watching team with 200.000 Eur camera that was heavy;)
@gaymer1269
@gaymer1269 Жыл бұрын
And 24fps?
@vedatfakhan4379
@vedatfakhan4379 Жыл бұрын
İphone 14 so good👍🏻
@akhilalexg
@akhilalexg Жыл бұрын
All I hear is voicefry
@presetlightroomfree2675
@presetlightroomfree2675 Жыл бұрын
Big difference, tentu saja
@AmoLaMusicaIAC
@AmoLaMusicaIAC Жыл бұрын
That’s actually not even close
@nabi5864
@nabi5864 Жыл бұрын
Im not into film making what's so ever but I saw a huge difference ...Sony was far superior
@user-pm2ov9jy3n
@user-pm2ov9jy3n Жыл бұрын
THATS WHY , IS NOT worth buying the fx3
@archie7288
@archie7288 Жыл бұрын
Sony are knowing slow at innovation, just wait apple gonna coming with new tech 🧠
@n3r0n3
@n3r0n3 Жыл бұрын
interesting.. well there is price tho: the iPhone is 3 or 4 times cheaper than the Sony
@upgrade1015
@upgrade1015 Жыл бұрын
For the money, there’s absolutely zero comparison
@Sourabh123ify
@Sourabh123ify Жыл бұрын
I don’t know, but the iPhone looks little bit over processed 😢
@xisanadu1
@xisanadu1 Жыл бұрын
YA Need to Learn " What's The Low Pass Filter & What's for ❓ And WHY YA NEED SHARPENING FUNCTION ON EVERY NLE EDITOR Such As Premier Pro, FCPX and DaVinci ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ " i-Phone is Much Close to WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) Shooting.
@wanderer8243
@wanderer8243 Жыл бұрын
Well it's not even close 😅
@rockrecordreport7136
@rockrecordreport7136 Жыл бұрын
Those owners of good cameras don't like what iPhones are doing, moving in closer every year, every 6 months.
@Rayantechtips
@Rayantechtips Жыл бұрын
Slight difference
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