Cinematic Studio Strings vs Real Orchestra Strings - Comparison

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Oliver Schmellenkamp

Oliver Schmellenkamp

3 жыл бұрын

Cinematic Studio Strings vs Real Strings.
Hear the difference between CSS and real strings.
I'm a huge fan of this library. I wrote this adagio in 2019.
cinematicstudioseries.com/str...

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@StefanoMaccarelli
@StefanoMaccarelli Жыл бұрын
A Great Example that.shows..... often it is not a Library Problem ( all kind of library) ...but an USER problem! Nice Test Oliver!
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Absolutely outstanding. Beautiful composition, but those results really blow me away, even though the real orchestra of course sort of breathes warmer.
@bazenastevski2576
@bazenastevski2576 Жыл бұрын
Rare who can unveil the true potential of CSS and you Oliver are doing it. If you could share a video of your midi programing your modulation expression etc.. that would be liquid gold. Thank you very much
@sarp-music
@sarp-music 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of music makes me enter another world. Very great music.
@YeahBan
@YeahBan 3 жыл бұрын
It varies so much depending on how detailed you touch the modulation. That's amazing.
@rolandguilford8301
@rolandguilford8301 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning!
@pcrewmusic
@pcrewmusic 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful arrangement. Love it!
@themysteriousspeeddemon
@themysteriousspeeddemon 2 күн бұрын
You know what is sound easier to tell the difference between the software and the acoustic recording, the Brass instruments. Because unlike strings that have sounds easier to replicate. Brass instruments have far more articulations and specific flavors of sounds, that alot of the VSTs still struggle to replicate just right without sounding overprocessed right out of the box, with the limiters, and the equalizing.
@wolfie8748
@wolfie8748 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece.
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing !
@sebazvideo
@sebazvideo Ай бұрын
This is beautiful! Did you publish this anywhere?
@storiesreadaloud5635
@storiesreadaloud5635 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive music. But these CSS displays on your vids would be super helpful if we knew which colour represented which instrument
@sathyngouane359
@sathyngouane359 3 ай бұрын
Hello Oliver, which kontakt script do you use to be able to quantize CSS on the grid and not having all the different delays ? Thanks.
@javierestevez9680
@javierestevez9680 Жыл бұрын
hi do you use any kind of eq on CSS to delete noise or something?
@alontrigger
@alontrigger 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to distinguish between the two just from listening... Do you think that just the mockup would be sufficient for the final production?
@ernie_j
@ernie_j 2 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing! How did you mix mic?
@dentReviews
@dentReviews 5 күн бұрын
how does this compare to the cinematic strings 2.0? i own that, but feel i need to learn automation techniques. but is this a vastly superior update?
@manganume
@manganume 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@counterpoint1014
@counterpoint1014 3 жыл бұрын
To be clear, I'm not quite certain where one ends and one begins. Perhaps this is a trick test? Are the Cinematic Studio Strings actually playing the entire time?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
In the short passages the difference is hard to hear, check the long versions. Best Oliver
@danielbendshadler9479
@danielbendshadler9479 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great piece and mock-up! Curious, did you blend in the Cinematic Studio Solo Strings library? Do you have any particular strategy for a convincing divisi?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn't use the solo strings. I put the dynamics and the vibrato on the same controller, that sounds very authentic in CSS2.
@alontrigger
@alontrigger 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp what do you mean by CSS2?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
@@alontrigger CSS2 is the sample library I used. Cinematic Studio Strings 2 (CSS2), does that answer your question?
@alontrigger
@alontrigger 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp Do you mean Cinematic Strings 2 or Cinematic Studio Strings? They are different libraries as far as I know...
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
@@alontrigger Yes, sorry. I mean Cinematic Studio Strings: cinematicstudioseries.com/strings/
@tg-psalterstudios5408
@tg-psalterstudios5408 4 ай бұрын
WowWowWow❤❤❤❤❤
@andikasavana4539
@andikasavana4539 2 жыл бұрын
when you play with music sample library like strings and orchestra, its not music played on your computer, but its someone sit down and playing that music in real life and play it for you
@The_Invisible_Man
@The_Invisible_Man 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@xmprime4530
@xmprime4530 4 ай бұрын
very nice..
@retttte7179
@retttte7179 3 жыл бұрын
hello Wonderfull library indeed ! How do you equalize it ?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
I used this one: www.softube.com/eq-collection for whole orchestra. I boosted 8kHz, 4db
@retttte7179
@retttte7179 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp OK thank you !
@jensjensen4038
@jensjensen4038 3 жыл бұрын
Hey awesome video! Did you use standard mic mix? Con sordino? I’m thinking to buy this library tbh
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Standard Mic Mix, no sordino. Library is Great!
@jensjensen4038
@jensjensen4038 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp awesome 💪 it sounded so similar!
@5ammy13
@5ammy13 2 жыл бұрын
God damn, nothing can beat real orchestras.
@DJAlone
@DJAlone Жыл бұрын
if you use release then it can be fixed a little bit. obviously no comparison between that real warm sound. but still
@davidheymann7741
@davidheymann7741 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I understand where the comparison is happening... when we see the piano roll it's CSS and when we see the musicians it's the real recording?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@paopis
@paopis 2 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp Well.. The sampled library is quite good! With some mix tricks it can probably get even closer to the real thing.
@nicolapitersky8363
@nicolapitersky8363 3 жыл бұрын
Great, sound really beautiful! Could you please upload your daw project for this small part?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nicola, what do you mean, a midifile?
@nicolapitersky8363
@nicolapitersky8363 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp I meant a whole project file (not all project, just only this fragment) including midi, plugins and all your DAW settings.
@Po1itica11yNcorrect
@Po1itica11yNcorrect 2 жыл бұрын
Are sample libraries better than real orchestras? I'd say no. But they are close enough, and certainly more convenient for those of us that like creating this type of music yet don't have a full orchestra on speed dial.
@delphin2424
@delphin2424 2 ай бұрын
pretty hard to believe as long as Cinematic Studio Strings library has few milliseconds gap due to the script complexity. If you check other demos no one note is quantize perfectly.
@Gutaha
@Gutaha 3 жыл бұрын
amazing what's the song name?
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
It‘s called: Narcissus - Adagio for Strings :)
@alanfox9721
@alanfox9721 3 ай бұрын
​@@OliverSchmellenkampplease record more adagios. Another question do you have this midi? can send me?
@nunqmusicdesign
@nunqmusicdesign 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the difference between the two performances, the real orchestra has a more open sound than the CSS which is drier. I find CSS an amazing tool, but you have to recognize that Oliver Schmellenkamp really did a great job! 👍
@Doty6String
@Doty6String Жыл бұрын
Really? When the camera switches to midi it’s actually css?
@jakegearhart
@jakegearhart 2 жыл бұрын
0:27 Until libraries figure out how to handle intonation that's purer than equal temperament like this, nothing will beat live players.
@bassoonplatoon3146
@bassoonplatoon3146 Жыл бұрын
CC pitch automation is definitely possible but it'll probably sound artificial, and in any case, live sessions ROCK
@robshrock-shirakbari1862
@robshrock-shirakbari1862 8 ай бұрын
@@bassoonplatoon3146 The further problem is we really would need CC pitch readout in cents, not MIDI units.
@hillcloud222
@hillcloud222 3 жыл бұрын
In fact, vst can play very well, but it lacks ensemble; I also recorded the Budapest Orchestra. I used CSS in the early stage. If it’s upgraded in the next few years, The increase in data volume can be completely defeated.
@engineerabi
@engineerabi Жыл бұрын
no time to die orchestral
@napoleon96420
@napoleon96420 2 жыл бұрын
Are u the new Mozart?
@filipjonathan
@filipjonathan 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean CSS2?!
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 2 жыл бұрын
Cinematic Studio Strings
@filipjonathan
@filipjonathan 2 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp oh OK, I thought you had access to something not out yet 😅
@Nullllus
@Nullllus 3 жыл бұрын
Vibrato in CSS kicks in fairly arbitrary with almost no regard to the score compared to a real orchestra. Plus I like a bit more rosin in the real thing.
@SamFerrara
@SamFerrara 3 жыл бұрын
You realize that all of your legato notes are off the beat by a few hundred milliseconds, right? The legato transitions are starting on the beat, but it should be completed on the beat. In the CSS documentation, it says that when using legatos to pre-delay the tracks by a few hundred milliseconds...
@OliverSchmellenkamp
@OliverSchmellenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Yes i know, here it makes no difference, but if you work with a clear beat it's important.
@SamFerrara
@SamFerrara 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverSchmellenkamp Apologies, but it really does make a difference. Tap out the beat for the live strings and youll hear them playing on the beat. Tap out the same beat for CSS and youll hear that it falls after the beat. It's important no matter what - especially if you want to A/B compare to live players.
@paulsen3384
@paulsen3384 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamFerrara It does not Matter when there really is no beat to hear. When you nor reference beat to play on it's not important if ALL his strings start a few milliseconds late because they are sync (on beat) again because they all are delayed the same amount. afterwards for the comparison it's just important to sync the two audio files exactly over each other!
@melodyrosemedia
@melodyrosemedia 2 жыл бұрын
If a tree falls in the forest and there was no metronome going, did it really fall off-beat?
@acidhendrix
@acidhendrix 2 жыл бұрын
Slow string orchestras do not play to a predefined click or beat. If you analyze them they're is always an ebb/flow to the tempo. Thats why subtle tempo automation during a slow strings passage is a very wonderful trick to add realism on top of dynamics and vibrato. Read the Evenant article on it, it's very informative.
@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus
@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell any difference
@romodoroksteinberg3896
@romodoroksteinberg3896 Жыл бұрын
Serms all the time the library...
@DS-fi4hf
@DS-fi4hf 3 жыл бұрын
There’s way more detail in the real version
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