Cinematography Vs Videography: What's the Difference?

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Crimson Engine

Crimson Engine

10 ай бұрын

Videography and Cinematography use some of the same tools but are very different jobs, and there is a lot of confusion about where one ends and the other begins. Today I'll try and clear up some misunderstandings and work out which is right for what kind of personality.
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@FPJBatangQuiapoOfficial
@FPJBatangQuiapoOfficial 5 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've learned the difference between Cinematography and Videography. Thank you @Crimson Engine for this very clear and informative video, I highly appreciated your effort!
@Dontlicktheballoons
@Dontlicktheballoons 10 ай бұрын
My videography is how I afford my cinematography😅 30k in film gear last year thanks to corporate AV and events. This year I've used that gear to shoot 3 shorts and 1 feature.
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
That is the perfect grind! I do the same lol
@gsanchez922
@gsanchez922 9 ай бұрын
Lol I would say a lot of us do it that way
@KO-D00M
@KO-D00M 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. It sounds like the shooting equivalent to my copywriting funding my scriptwriting. 😅
@who2999
@who2999 10 ай бұрын
I feel like my career has landed me RIGHT in the middle where I bounce back and fourth between the two extremes. Small production work flows really blur these lines.
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree, and it makes things confusing for people getting more into this industry.
@brmoogma
@brmoogma 9 ай бұрын
same here! Love it!
@katefrimpong5075
@katefrimpong5075 2 ай бұрын
About to go to school and learn about this thing but don't know what is best .... Videography and cinematography
@zoisgmovies
@zoisgmovies 10 ай бұрын
Then, in Apocalypse Now when they shot the indigenous people slaughtering the cow, that was videography. (They had no control over the ritual and had nothing to do with setting it up). Vittorio Storaro is one hell of a videographer! By the way, great video!
@Stedmen
@Stedmen 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video!!!
@escapekayak
@escapekayak 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this perspective.
@maria-camila
@maria-camila 7 ай бұрын
love this take! completely agree
@DanielDiosdado
@DanielDiosdado 10 ай бұрын
Cool video as always. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the next one! 🎉
@davebear6312
@davebear6312 8 ай бұрын
Rubidium, I can sit and listen to your wisdom all day long… thank you sir!
@oscarpatino330
@oscarpatino330 10 ай бұрын
Nice video and explanation.... Thanks
@ibexsam1984
@ibexsam1984 10 ай бұрын
Well Explained!!!!
@KevinvanDiest
@KevinvanDiest 28 күн бұрын
I do agree …good explanation Id say
@josephberkeley
@josephberkeley 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I have learned a lot from your Canon Masterclass.
@Crimsonengine
@Crimsonengine 10 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@thedanpalen1
@thedanpalen1 10 ай бұрын
Well said! When you mentioned weddings, it did make me think about how even in videography, there is some room for creative vision. Your wedding video editing style vs someone else.
@J_HNP
@J_HNP 5 ай бұрын
I can see that, but when you reference eating, that is post-production. The wedding itself is videography, as you aren’t in control of the story as it is captured.
@gsanchez922
@gsanchez922 9 ай бұрын
About the wedding you actually have the opportunity to do it both. When you are creating a highlight is when you can become a cinematographer but when you are there to shoot full wedding you have to be a videographer and adapt to what is happening, while in the highlights you take parcial or full control of what will happen. That’s my cc
@san.a3449
@san.a3449 10 ай бұрын
7:38 reminds me Avnish Paker ❤
@portzir
@portzir 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting take. The question is ever so present in my life. Where's the line between video and film? I love your take about documentaries: the moment you actively shape what's in front of your lens you are crossing the line onto Cinematography. I still have to give it some thoughts where your definition might fall short but it's interesting for sure.
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
Honestly his definition is accurate. If you have worked in the industry on big film sets or any project that has multiple departments. This is what sets the standards and terms of production. I use to question and think different until I worked with my local film commission and then I seen how it all really works.
@MyRackley
@MyRackley 9 ай бұрын
So: what category would "Amazing Grace" - a documentary film of a musical performance made for the original purpose of showing on television - fall into? Also "The Last Waltz" (You can tell what genre I enjoy). These films do have back stories - although not controlled by the filmmakers. Then there are the IMAX films that document trips on the International Space Station and to the summit of Everest. They're all definitely created on film, not video.
@dwaynepiper3261
@dwaynepiper3261 8 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation however I would say that they both can tell stories. Movies can be fictional or real stories that are presented as if unfolding in real-time. Documentaries are stories or subject matter that are not presented as if unfolding in real-time. Like you said to me the major difference is the control and manipulation of what is in front of the camera. Some documentaries contain re-enactments so there can be some crossover. One is more about entertainment while the other is about presenting information or an event. What is the true definition of a story? The news is often referred to as a story.
@Not_Pilky
@Not_Pilky 10 ай бұрын
very interesting! I really like how you are defining it!
@mishelmudryk
@mishelmudryk 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Can you do video "cinematography vs director" pls
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
Director has the vision and works and stands next to the cinematographer. The difference is the cinematographer skill set is running the camera and knowing all the technicals of the camera and the director knows the vision of the project. It makes less to no errors when you can focus on one primary task, that is why there are so many departments on big sets. Faster problem solving, lots of moving parts. Join your local film commission as a P.A. and within a couple jobs it will make sense. Totally worth it!
@dwaynepiper3261
@dwaynepiper3261 8 ай бұрын
The director is in total control of the creative process in collaboration with the cinematographer and other departments. The director is at the top of the hierarchy for all creative departments and takes responsibility for all creative decisions.
@saligraphy
@saligraphy 9 ай бұрын
Your videos have inproved over the years!
@Crimsonengine
@Crimsonengine 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Anyone who works at it will get better.
@zapsizzle
@zapsizzle 10 ай бұрын
Defintely make this into an IG post/reel or whatnot, would love to share this great explanation with others!
@theotherHOLLYWOOD
@theotherHOLLYWOOD 10 ай бұрын
I like the term, "filmmaker." That avoids being pigeon-holed.
@thedanpalen1
@thedanpalen1 10 ай бұрын
How about content creator?
@theotherHOLLYWOOD
@theotherHOLLYWOOD 10 ай бұрын
@@thedanpalen1 Dan, I think content creator is too broad. A writer could be a content creator.
@thedanpalen1
@thedanpalen1 10 ай бұрын
@@theotherHOLLYWOOD good point
@doronpaz
@doronpaz 9 ай бұрын
I am having a hard time not thinking cinematography is superior
@KenFlanagan
@KenFlanagan 10 ай бұрын
Im not sure that this is a helpful distinction. I think it feels like what is being delineated is observational filmmaker/cinematographer and a narrative cinematographers working to a script. Most documentaries are lit or use every bit of a cinematographers toolkit. Many cinematographers have learned their craft and techniques working in documentary. Nomadland might as well be shot like a doc in an observational way but if course its a hybrid in that it has a script. Famously Cassavetes and the new wave cinema used non actors and worked through narratives without a script and used improvisation and effectively filmed in an observational way. I really dont think creating content for social media and filmmaking should be confused and likewise arbitrary distinctions like this are extremely unhelpful and meaningless. Robert Altmans A Wedding intercuts observational cinematography with a loose script and improvisation. Lots of long lens work to create the feeling of observational verite. Not sure making a distinction as arbitrary as cinematographer and videographer is meaningful at all.
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
This day and age is totally different and has lots of hybrid modified versions of traditional film. I see where you are coming from and after working on big films, tv shows and large budget projects this is the industry standard terminology. Its not down playing anything its just how these departments are in the industry.
@KenFlanagan
@KenFlanagan 10 ай бұрын
@@mediaapexproduction5245 thanks for that. I think a more logical distinction comes when recording an in camera 709 clip that is ready to broadcast as opposed to shooting in a log format. The person shooting in 709 is a videographer who is capturing what they see without wishing to influence the final image beyond framing. I would still argue that done well a tonne of cinematography principles will be employed. Anyone bothering to shoot log is likely interested in the nuance of the image or working in a pipeline that is. At that point the distinction is about intent and not process. A news gathering team might be considered to be videographers. A person trying to make a wedding look emotionally deep and mutli faceted may be shooting unfolding action in real time but once the slow mo back lit silhouettes kissing hoves into view and there is some soft focus then i would say that that is more vittorio storaro than CNN.
@353Studios
@353Studios 8 ай бұрын
The bass on this video makes is almost uncomfortable to hear. ....
@Ryan-Payne
@Ryan-Payne 10 ай бұрын
I feel there are elements of cinematography within videography and vise versa. Where in my videography I may capture my subject doing what they usually would, but sometimes I'll change their location to a better room with larger windows, or I'll ask them to do their action again to get a close up, I'll setup a background to look it's best, only using what's already available on location and will use lights where ever possible. The talent and I end up re-enacting the truth a few times, perhaps in the prettiest way possible but the sentiment of the information or story is still true. I'm trying to present the 'best' version of the world that I can, so if sometimes beautiful daylight may spill through a window but today it's not, then if I have time, I will absolutely setup a light to make that happen. I say 'best' in the sense that I want to keep the production quality high, get the information to the audience in a pleasing or impactful manner depending on the videos intent but, I'm often restricted by available resources, be it time or budget. My videography always has a goal or call to action. That may be to buy something, use a service, deliver information or work at an organisation, but to the best of my ability I either use an emotional connection where possible or look to provide concise effective communication if the video is very short. So my work isn't necessarily to portray the absolute truth, and I would argue that documentary work isn't there to portray absolute truth either but a perspective of it. In my case it's a perspective that achieves the goal of the video.
@Eddie32791
@Eddie32791 10 ай бұрын
Cinematographers are true artists who take the creative process seriously. Videographers are just teenagers who think they're CiNnAmOnToGrApHeRs
@alvinburrell
@alvinburrell 10 ай бұрын
Oh dear.. that's pretty insulting... as a videographer...Also, you may want to check your spelling of Cinematographers as well as the 'artistic' use of Caps. That's the thing about videography, you need to be precise :-)
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 10 ай бұрын
lol
@nyambe
@nyambe 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Short form social media is closer to cinematography as it is almost always "enhanced" visión of lame reality. It is a story
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