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Citadel Contrast Paints - Undercoat Wraith Bone vs White Primer

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Crabbok

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5 жыл бұрын

Comparing Citadel Contrast Undercoats vs Tamiya White Primer. Using some more Miniatures from Time of Legends : Joan of Arc.
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@MasterJediDude
@MasterJediDude 5 жыл бұрын
Crabbok, I'd love to see you paint some Star Wars Legion minis this way. I've seen a few other videos out there and the authors made the mistake of NOT using the Citadel contrast undercoat first (they used Army painter and other generic stuff). I think the contrast paints are going to be awesome for painting stormtroopers, but I've got to find the right technique to make sure they're not too gray and somehow get the white paint to pop. I'm going to experiment on other miniatures like you're doing here. This is one of the best videos out there that shows off a lot of the colors. Thanks for taking the time to do this, Crabbok!
@the40inchtaco
@the40inchtaco 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize there was a special primer for these. This actually looks a lot better than I expected for pretty minimal effort. Definitely good for base coating an entire army.
@orgerix
@orgerix 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need the special primer. You can use any primer, as long as they are white or off white and with a satin finish
@timunderbakke8756
@timunderbakke8756 5 жыл бұрын
The dragon is awesome looking. Glad to see these real tests with the contrast paint. I’m thinking about picking up the fur color contrast for when I pick up Legion’s Wookiee pack
@skiawev8043
@skiawev8043 5 жыл бұрын
That aethermatic blue looks really good with the wraith bone
@Khaine8
@Khaine8 5 жыл бұрын
for painting smaller models put some blutack/poster tack on the top of a old pill bottle or paint pot and stick the base of the model in the tak. it will let you grip something larger and not get paint on your fingers. yet still have it pop off easy when done.
@jamesholland5560
@jamesholland5560 5 жыл бұрын
How much have you shaken the apothecary white? These new paints require way more shaking than standard paints as they have lots of sediment on the bottom
@Tent-Peg
@Tent-Peg 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had to use an old brush to really mix up the corax white as it was all gathered at the bottom of the pot.
@rushifellpainting4631
@rushifellpainting4631 5 жыл бұрын
"That's a good looking wood" - Crabbok 2019
@rokassan
@rokassan 5 жыл бұрын
Got a tough time spending $15-25 on GW primer. Krylon is $6-8.
@garymccloskey3710
@garymccloskey3710 5 жыл бұрын
Great video much better visually than some others. I have only been painting miniatures for four years. I think that using those they look sloppy in my opinion. I have not seen any videos or pictures where they look nice. I know it is not for competition painting but from all the videos and pictures I have seen. They will not be a tool in my tool box. If they work for others I am happy for them.
@jimsowter
@jimsowter 5 жыл бұрын
I am interested to see how the White Contrast paint works over white primer, to add first layer to Stormtroopers (as it is basically a very light grey, that should settle in some recesses around the armour, before adding the black details. May really speed up Legion painting!
@tjmckeown1
@tjmckeown1 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse the terrible photo but this is a quick test I tried with Corax primer and the white contrast paint ibb.co/ZfGHY9m
@MasterJediDude
@MasterJediDude 5 жыл бұрын
Me too! I am going to experiment on some other miniatures to see how that turns out -- long before I commit to painting all of my stormtroopers.
@MasterJediDude
@MasterJediDude 5 жыл бұрын
@@tjmckeown1, are you going to come back over the armor with a pure white? Just curious, as I'm trying to figure out that technique myself. Were you using apothecary white over the corax white? Thanks!
@jimsowter
@jimsowter 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Mckeown that looks great. I nice subtle shade, that can be easily brought back up to pure white on flat panels too! Think I am definitely going to have to try it out.
@tjmckeown1
@tjmckeown1 5 жыл бұрын
@@MasterJediDude Yeah, I think so. It makes the armour very grey just using the contrast paint. Looks ok until you compare it to a pure white stormtrooper then you see the difference. Stormtrooper armour should be..... clinical if you get what i mean
@neodiy
@neodiy 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like lot of works to paint small stuff ...is it possible to make paint more liquid and dip the miniature model in it to speed up the job?
@johnray9023
@johnray9023 5 жыл бұрын
The contrast wyldwood would be good for painting Wookiee’s. I always use a bone color spray paint to prime all my miniature, I think it’s a safe color.
@popburnsy3207
@popburnsy3207 5 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, the two new spray colors have a more satin finish, so if you want to help the effect work with these paints a little more, a clear satin coat may help the paint do it's thing. But as we saw with the Tamiya white it still works fine without an extra hand. (I wonder if the Tamiya is satin or matte)
@johnray9023
@johnray9023 5 жыл бұрын
Also out of all the legion stuff I’ve painted Chewbacca and the Wookiee’s were the hardest to paint. There just tabletop ready, not one of my Proud Accomplishments. I’ll just sit back an watch these contrast paints for a little while to see how they do.
@popburnsy3207
@popburnsy3207 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnray9023 If I were doing wookies, I'd go for the wildwood like you're thinking and maybe have a lighter brown gray paint on hand to pick out some random hairs with the side of a brush or do a little light drybrush along the head and shoulders
@samprastherabbit
@samprastherabbit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Dunno if you've ever tried painting with the mini on a handle before but it changed my painting life!
@jasonkoier5996
@jasonkoier5996 5 жыл бұрын
You did a great job on that huge dragon.
@mdrumt
@mdrumt 5 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about priming with the bone/grey with a zenithal white on lighter themed minus, do you think that would provide a good subtle shading with these paints?
@isaiahcramer5120
@isaiahcramer5120 5 жыл бұрын
Love the colors of the dragon
@nvcn86
@nvcn86 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, apothecary white on wraithbone is exactly what i was looking for :D
@johnmackrory8306
@johnmackrory8306 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what the contrast flesh tones look like?
@abelpaoli6836
@abelpaoli6836 5 жыл бұрын
Really like the dragon! BTW, have you thought of using some poster tac and a plastic water bottle or soda bottle cap to attach the mini you're painting, so the paint doesn't get on your finger? Also, are you shaking the pots before using the contrast paints? Thanks for the videos!
@Crabbok
@Crabbok 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I shook them up REALLY well. In fact, the Apothecary white actually looked white BEFORE I shook it. It wasn't until after vigorous shaking, that it became grey.
@abelpaoli6836
@abelpaoli6836 5 жыл бұрын
@@Crabbok Wow, that's disappointing, white should be white!
@Samanar
@Samanar 5 жыл бұрын
Love the wood though - definitely looks like the Contrast paints are a hit/miss. Some of them are liquid talent tier (Nazdrag Yellow/Wyldwood) and some of them (Apothecary White) are simply not worth it.
@MasonPeatross
@MasonPeatross 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool video, thanks for doing this work for us!
@KM-jb3vg
@KM-jb3vg 2 жыл бұрын
Buying paint online is kinda annoying I wanted to try see what wraithbone paint looks like because I wanted to try use it but this is the closest I've found and am unsure if the base version looks like the contrast primer version
@jasesask
@jasesask 5 жыл бұрын
I like these paints. I’ve added a few to my painting Arsenal.
@redbeardboss
@redbeardboss 5 жыл бұрын
Great test. Ive been talking about them a lot on my page as well. Its been super fun trying them out
@RoboticDragon
@RoboticDragon 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for doing this, answers lots of questions for me.
@cheneymoss3432
@cheneymoss3432 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some tests on the contrast paint. Still not completely sold on it, but could be useful. For the price I will likely pass. Though, I did like the color that resulted in the ghost-like effect, so I could see getting that color if I ever wanted to paint some ghosts.
@MasterJediDude
@MasterJediDude 5 жыл бұрын
This will be great for the Lord of the Rings wraiths and army of the dead ghosts.
@MrTheEndIsNigh1
@MrTheEndIsNigh1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not totally sold on this line, but want to try out some colors. I got around 100 skeletons to go thur, so skeleton horde color could be a where to start...
@obi1988
@obi1988 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid. Delving into the unknown with these contrast paints myself, and i appreciate you posting your results and editing. What line of minis are those? Reaper?
@davidrickey8841
@davidrickey8841 5 жыл бұрын
That's weird about the white. None of the other videos I've watched have had it turn out such Gray
@ericdimeck4481
@ericdimeck4481 5 жыл бұрын
The wood looks really good.
@truegregthompson
@truegregthompson 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen other people doing well with the white so I'm curious as to why you had such bad luck. Maybe the grey seer is a better primer for it
@crazymoogle
@crazymoogle 5 жыл бұрын
The contrast paints seem to be most effective at being slightly more than a basic wash and for blending with how fluid they are compared to their other products. Could you show some models painted with a color gradient scheme?
@Crabbok
@Crabbok 5 жыл бұрын
The Dragon has a gradient aspect to it, if you check out my album for it on facebook, I have several photos. Search for Crabbok.
@isolatedincodent
@isolatedincodent 5 жыл бұрын
Played around with contrast recently I can tell you one thing, Warhammer daemons benefit massively from them
@c.b7686
@c.b7686 5 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping the white would work for stormtroopers... Looks like I'll just be getting red & black for Legion Empire.
@beerenmusli8220
@beerenmusli8220 4 жыл бұрын
You can also but matte spray primer from Vallejo or Army painter
@casnorfcasnorf4442
@casnorfcasnorf4442 5 жыл бұрын
That genie was white primer with white contrast paint? I liked how it looked.
@epicnickmannewby7014
@epicnickmannewby7014 4 жыл бұрын
did you just spray it directly on there or did you prime it first?
@chuck-n-debtaylor7553
@chuck-n-debtaylor7553 5 жыл бұрын
good point at 2x expense; does it correlate with a 2x improvement? thanks for the research!
@TheLordofskulls666
@TheLordofskulls666 4 жыл бұрын
Ive seen the skeleton horde used 50/50 with contrast medium
@mikenapier3598
@mikenapier3598 5 жыл бұрын
Gimme some GCs!! Jk...great job crabbok! I have been using artist quality acrylics on my fleets with great finishing product. For a new player or new wargames not a bad way to cheap out while getting techniques down.
@erupendragon7376
@erupendragon7376 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sold. I’m getting citadels
@doganaykurtul8885
@doganaykurtul8885 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot.l'm looking for a quick way to paint my board game minis because l'm not into painting so much but l also want to see them painted :-) l guess l'll find lots of useful tips in this channel.
@slybobs7
@slybobs7 5 жыл бұрын
ive wanted to see what the dark angels looked like its what i was planning thanks. i wonder if all the bases made for contrast come out chalky
@Beatriz_Molina
@Beatriz_Molina 4 жыл бұрын
So.. . Apothecary White over grey primer looks like GREY. But even a normal grey, it doesn't have these shades as other colors, as Iyanden Yellow for example has. I tried to and i was upset to see IT'S NOT WHITE at all, and looks like a normal paint. 😢
@darrenmcnally82
@darrenmcnally82 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos space wolf grey is really good
@andrewcrowe6834
@andrewcrowe6834 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks great video
@andrewbeach9097
@andrewbeach9097 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and informative.
@roberthaddon5069
@roberthaddon5069 5 жыл бұрын
I believe you are not getting the full ‘contrast effect’ the way you apply it, like especially on the wagon. These paints work by manipulating viscosity and surface tension, so you need enough on your brush to allow these fluid mechanics to work.
@DojjarYourt
@DojjarYourt 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried experimenting with auto store primers?
@chrisr.2410
@chrisr.2410 4 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for this to be out of stock everywhere?
@SantiagoHorsFraile
@SantiagoHorsFraile 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos :)
@sovagoimre9396
@sovagoimre9396 5 жыл бұрын
OMG the grifin is epic
@stormwalker628
@stormwalker628 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for replacements for the now discontinued Citadel Glaze line?
@Mayenna0203
@Mayenna0203 5 жыл бұрын
artist inks and do your glazes yourself with a mix of 2//3 medium to 1 ink
@DanielRodriguez-nr3ns
@DanielRodriguez-nr3ns 5 жыл бұрын
You should do basilicanum grey next
@xabieronederra754
@xabieronederra754 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone tried contrast paints with death guard spray?
@Inconvenient_NPC
@Inconvenient_NPC 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably one of the worst primers I have ever used. It just doesn't stick to the miniatures.
@snakedocdan
@snakedocdan 5 жыл бұрын
How many contrast paints can you get with that giftcard? ;)
@sheaparkersp
@sheaparkersp Жыл бұрын
So essentially citadel undercoats are a waste of money
@CamillusofRome
@CamillusofRome 5 жыл бұрын
How economical are these paints? I'm new to painting and don't know my products or price-points.
@MasterJediDude
@MasterJediDude 5 жыл бұрын
About $8 per pot.
@Crabbok
@Crabbok 5 жыл бұрын
Yup about 8 bucks. And that's nearly twice the cost of normal paints. So in the long run, very expensive. Granted it's a larger pot...
@CamillusofRome
@CamillusofRome 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance you would be interested in doing a video on what to get when you're starting out?
@mogwaiman6048
@mogwaiman6048 5 жыл бұрын
@@CamillusofRome buy a paint starter set from vallejo or army painter.
@lund5869
@lund5869 5 жыл бұрын
The pot lids are terrible
@squeesmyth9025
@squeesmyth9025 3 жыл бұрын
Always apply them like a layer ... the one thick coat slogan really shouldnt be adopted
@nikvernon4251
@nikvernon4251 5 жыл бұрын
That dragon looks amazing! I'm planning on getting a few of these for Zombicide black plague
@the1gofer
@the1gofer 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s contrast paint
@jarrodalford1680
@jarrodalford1680 5 жыл бұрын
I went to purchase a few of these paints from the local game store, and they were basically sold out of all of them... \(@,@)/
@broncofun5636
@broncofun5636 5 жыл бұрын
What game are the two knight figures from? The look great. Great video!
@Crabbok
@Crabbok 5 жыл бұрын
All of these minis are from Time of Legend : Joan of Arc
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