Every time you drop a dumpster there make a bill out for 1 dollar to your granpa and set it up like you are renting him all the bins lol. And when the city comes you can say yes i am renting him those bins.

The only time code enforcement does anything is if there is a neighbor complaint; or worse someone that works for the city (manager, mayor, or even one of your competitors).

Local government, in my experience, is a combination of corruption and incompetence. The victims are always people who don't have a lot of money to fight, and it's sad to see. You never see the rich having to deal with this, there's a reason for that. I do wish more people would stand up and put them in their place - they are supposed to serve the people, not victimize them. I hope this plays out well for you and your family.

The problem is you’re trying to use logic and common sense with government employees.

Explain to code enforcement that if they're going to not drop it, that you're going to pay a high school kid to drive street by street and any house that has a business name on the side of a truck or equipment at their home and take a picture. You're then going to file a complaint about every single one.

I experienced something similar to your situation. I took two days off, drove around the entire area covered buy the same municipality. I proceeded to take pictures of all the same situations within those boundaries. 642 to be exact. All similar offenses. Filled the proper papers to force them to investigate all 642 complaints. They either went to work for the next year or dropped the charges. Needless to say they didn't want to work that hard. All begrudgingly was forgiven

The person complaining has a friend in the city.

Take that agency to court and make them learn a lesson.

"You're not the property owner" Well neither is Grandpa, since y'all got the wrong addresses...

Take them to court and sue them for harrassment of an elderly gentleman.

Yup I’ve got neighbors like that! It’s amazing the lengths people will go to be a thorn in your side over something that isn’t hurting anybody! The best part of living in a small town is that even if you don’t know what your doing, somebody else does!!!🤣

Some people will always look for a reason to complain. It’s frustrating at times for sure.

Sounds more like abuse/harassment of an elderly person by local government. A bonafide complaint would have been made to company named on equipment.

Just a tip, you can get a lawyer to appear on someone's behalf. This way your grandpa won't have to be there. You as the business owner and operator could hire him to defend on both people's behalf. I don't know the local laws they might prevent this, but if you explain he is elderly and a non English speaker that the court would have to hire a translator for they should except it.

You say that dumpsters are moved in and out frequently. The noise and traffic form moving the dumpsters is probably the reason a neighbor complained.

I hope you talked to the Judge's secretary and she was able to help you rectify this. I have known of things thrown out when someone could just talk 5 minutes to the judge.. You may rent a commercial lot so your dumpsters are all visible from the road. Put up a sign. "Dumpster view brought to you by "inspector gadget" and "alderman whatshisface"...

To be a bureaucrat you have to have your common sense removed and have I'm only doing my job implanted.

If you want to get cheeky, see if your grandfather would sell you the house. If there is another fine, you do not have to take anybody to court with you; it is all in your name. In the purchase agreement, you could have him stipulate who will get the house upon his death. This way no one gets upset about any lost inheritance. I would also like to point out that, cities are underfunded. City inspectors have a lot of things to do, which means that they do not get a lot of time to do proper investigations. To be able to fight this out of court, you could go to the city planning office and see if they would grant the property a dual commercial and residential zoning and then you can fix the issue. Any way, I hope that these suggestions help that you keep making the wonderful content that you have been. James

Never met a politician or city employee that could think for themselves

I had the same problem. I have money so I had 4 rentals in the township so I only rented to sec 8 people and bought two more houses and did the same. There goes the neighborhood .They sent a note to a person that I was trying to buy her house that said don't sell to me and I sued them and they settled. Then I moved

U handled the situation better than I would have. That's ridiculous to have ur grandfather right in the middle of that. Absolutely not handled correctly don't let em get u down brother keep doing you.

Sounds like competition calling in complaints or an acquittance of a code enforcement person.

This is why I always do everything out in the country because normally you're less likely to get bothered I got a friend that has a shop in town and he just works on his own vehicles and the neighbors are always calling the police on him just cuz his air compressor is running in in a building that he built with surround foam and everything to quiet down

Never met a government official or representative.... That is capable of deductive reasoning or thought.... That why they work for the city, county, state, or fed...

It is the busy body neighbor who has nothing better to do in their free time....They likely call the city and complain so much it annoys the local officials. I had similar experiences. 🙁

Quincy is a small town.. run for mayor and make changes. I am dealing with a similar central Illinois town that operates similarly.

Code enforcement is the Karen squad.

Please keep us updated on this. I would love to know the outcome....and honestly the dumpsters aren't bothering anybody. They acting like the dumpster are having parties until 2 or 3 in the morning! But great continued success for you always!

I would give them a headache by going around and taking pictures of each place that has a residential house with equipment that has been business name on the side of it when you know it's not there at that address and just send a bunch of photos and say here I guess you got a lot of work ahead of you and a bunch of red and a bunch of red tape to do! Have A Nice Day

the city wants to put a lien against the property and just collect the interest on the fines and foreclosed as a tax sale.

You are NOT being unreasonable!!! It's ridiculous that the powers that be "assume" whatever without actually opening their mouth to talk to someone to find out what's actually going on.

I worked Code Enforcement for 20 years. The city does not make any money off of that activity. It costs a lot more than it brings in. You may be personally offended with the process, but the bottom line is: you should have stored your dumpsters in a business or commercial area. There may have been an error in the letter, not a big problem. If your grandfather cannot handle his affairs, someone from the family should be stepping in and handling all of his affairs. You can not pick and choose what should be handled. Someone, who knows what is going on in the world, should be opening all of his mail and responding to the correspondence. Don't blame it on the letter sender. Your family has some responsibility in this matter. You handled it the right way. It may have pissed you off, but the problem was corrected. There is not just one way to resolve these matters. Sometimes it only requires a knock on the door. Maybe it will take one letter. Maybe it will take two letters. Maybe it will require a summons. Maybe it will require someone to appear in court. That is the way the system works. It may not be pretty, but it usually accomplishes the task to clean up the problem. I had a compliance rate of 100% in one city I worked for. The other city was only 90%. That means 100% of the neighbors were happy in the first city and only 90% were happy in the other. Many people do not want a government official knocking on their door. They find that intrusive. A letter is less intrusive and provides all the facts and the solution. If the Code Enforcement Officer went to your Grandfather's door and explained, in detail, the nature of the violation, and the solution, it is doubtful that he would have understood. He surely could not have explained all the information to a family member. You did the right thing. Keep it up. The "Process" does work...most of the time. Thanks for helping him out, and keeping the neighbors off his back.

Probably a rival dumpster company causing problems. Someone in local government may have a relationship with said rival company.

Sound like grandpa needs a long “term rental” on a dumpster.

Seems to me someone is playing games here with you !! 😡 as a council member of a small village in Ohio we do everything we can to make contact which would include calling the phone number on your dumpster!! I hope you fight this . This makes me mad and I just found this on my utube feed

This story kind of reminds of a state grew up in and I left over 20 years ago before it got really bad. California. About 30 years ago they would tow a vehicle that could be seen from the street with expired registration. Then it turned to backyard. Then it turned to no working on vehicles in your yard or no inoperable vehicles. Obviously this turned into many bs code violations for about anything and everything after I moved. When I lived in Nevada I got a citation for having my box trailer on the street this was a city of 12k btw. My two cents get the violation on you and fight it but don’t throw a bunch of money at it. Basically get your point across that they are wrong and start parking your truck and trailer in the driveway of grandpas at lunch. I had a neighbor like that all they had to do was come talk to me instead of complaining. I did everything legally I could to irritate them after the first complaint.

I'm dealing with a similar situation in my small Town. It seems like a lot of small towns are trying to become an HOA.

Keep up the good fight, this is the only way that you and the rest of us can keep Government as honest as they should be!

We used to have a neighbor who was easily upset and knew that she could get away with lying to the government. The police department, fire department, and everybody thought that if the word got out that you can get arrested for calling them, that actual good samaritans would stop calling.

New subscriber here and let me start by saying that I love your content. I think the city did what cities do.... they rush, send things through mail for documentation purposes and liability. It's great that the officer reached out when he sensed something wasn't right when he thought that your grandfather didn't understand what was going on. I would check with the code and see what the cities definition of "running a business" is. To me, there is a difference between a landscaper coming home at the end of the day and parking his truck and trailer for the night and having a truck and trailer swapping out cans throughout the day on a residential property. I'd personally knock on doors of the neighbors and see who it may have been who complained if at all. At the end of the day, it may be more of a headache than its worth attempting to keep things status quo. Regardless, I am hooked on the channel and hope you keep up the great videos and keep up the grind.

Small towns are scared of dealing with people and do the best they can to avoid any direct contact. During the pandemic I mailed my tax check to the township but my handwriting is lousy and they said they couldn't read it very well so they modified the numeric amount to be $7.00 less than the tax bill. They then mailed me a bill for the $7. They didn't tell me WHY I owed $7, they simply billed me. I called and found out and then mailed them a second check for $7. I got nothing back from them and just assumed they got the $7 and applied it. However they never got it. Did they call me? Mail me? Email me? Nope. Instead they sent my bill to the county seat for foreclosure. Could I go to the county and pay? Nope, pandemic, no personal contact. BUT I could go to the post office and talk to Postmaster Bob and mail it registered letter with a return receipt, for $8.14 by the time they added penalties and interest. All because they were too scared to simply call me or even write me a letter about the $7.

Perhaps one day the city or one of the members of city council will need one of your dumpsters, and you charge them double.. lol

Accountability with our gov't officials needs to happen...

When laws or codes are not evenly applied to everyone is when there is a problem. If it applies to you, it should apply to them. I'm not sure why a doctor's note wouldn't have sufficed why grandpa wasn't able to come to court.

Yeah its just sad people dont have anything better to do than call and complain about literally nothing

One of your father-in-law’s neighbors called that in. When they see you picking up and dropping off the dumpsters, even if it’s for storage, they consider it a business being operated from that address.

probably the neighbours...you said those containers are constantly being swapped out every 48 hours....people dont buy residential properties to listen to trucks loading/dropingoff dumpsters constantly

Nothing makes my blood boil more than zoning barking up trees and picking a choosing which trees. I agree they could of handled it better, I also agree with them on how its zoned and how it's being used but on that note I agree with you that the need to go after the lawn care guys too. I fight with zoning in the country at my parents place and in town where I live, both have me on their radar which is not a good place to be.

Neighbors with too much time on their hands.

There is a single form you can fill out to take care of these matters for your grandfather. Have him sign over power of attorney to you and a few other selected family members. That allows you to legally represent him in all such matters now and in the future. You can specify on the power of attorney conditions, times, or for specific limited situations; but since your grandfather is 90 and having some issues it’s probably best just to have an open ended one for at least one relative. Once you have that on hand you are officially their agent and you can represent them in all matters. The only downside is it has to be notarized, but a lot of local companies, banks, etc will do that for free. There are many people who will also come to the house and notarize things.

Even if it was for” 48” or not. I would not want to look out my window as a neighbor and see that for any amount of time

I don't understand why people care what the hell is in their neighbors yard. Just don't look at it.

They're not going to call, ever. It's like the IRS calling. It doesn't happen. Philly's L&I will come to our property, could easily tell us right away in person but they send letters weeks later. And storing containers on the property is part of your business operations, the property owner is always going to be the person getting the violation letters. The city has policies they have to follow, even if you think they're not following. And many people aren't confrontational, they'll be nice to you and not complain about your dumpsters there, but then call and complain to the city scout them.

In our city, they do home outside inspections once every 3 years. They are not allowed to step on the property. I'm thinking they couldn't read the side of the dumpster. Three dumpsters also makes it appear that the business is being run out of that address. The assumed the homeowner is also the business owner. You say they are empty, which would lead someone to believe it is a business and weren't there for self use.

My town did this to big trucks in the late 80s finding out that they were trying to get people who work out of there own property to buy there commercial condo garage units that there friends had built. The big truck guys said they same thing everyone with a commercial vehicle with lettering on it can't be parked at a residential property. Such as land scapers, plumber, elections and so on. Hope all works out for you.

Classic over reaching Local official . Definitely should be fought properly . Proper notice is typically Certified mail ,proving it was given to someone . Not sure about your state .

I'd go to court as it may be the only way to find out what caused the incident. City personnel would have to testify under oath what the information was that they used to issue the citation. You could provide pictures of other homes nearby to bolster your claim that they were picking on you. Why were others not given citation?

The consequences of officials not using common sense.

It’s just like parking an RV or a large boat in your driveway for long periods of time. Neighbors usually don’t like it. Code Enforcement says if a neighbor complains you must park them in your backyard out of site. This can include yard maintenance trailers.

The idiot city didn't even bother to try. Someone wanted money

As stated, operating a business, banging metal containers, loud PTO trucks in a residential area was cited for operating a business which stored trash containers that revolved out of operation😂 they just need to watch this video as you state that you store containers there for continuous operation😮

The whole idea of county code enforcement is revenue, so why would you waste time trying to contact anyone before issuing fines? They often have administrative kangaroo courts where you are automatically guilty until proven innocent. I was wondering how long it would be before your local government started harassing you a new business owner. To survive in my area I did surround my home with trees and bushes to hide my activities. Remember, the government is never, ever liable for incompetence. They face no consequences so why would they ever want to do the right thing? Don't waste your time or money on an attorney. The county owns all the properties and they make the rules, you only lease it from them (property tax).

I've heard that typically it is realtors selling houses in the area, are the ones reporting things like this.

They probably had a plan to steal the house through civil action.

Typical government.

Sounds like the municipality or whoever is involved in going after your grandfather for this is a competitor for your business and is just trying to cause problems

Man that is super frustrating when people can’t mind their own business! I live in a super small town about 1300 people. The kind of place where everyone knows each other, no one locks their doors at night yada yada you get the idea. If you years back the mayor decides to create a position of “city manager “. This is a position we had never had or needed before. Turns out, this person’s primary role was to bust people for anything they were building on around their property that required a permit. We had a wind storm followed by a lot of thick ice that ended up taking down a lot of peoples awnings, sheds and what have you. Suddenly everyone trying to rebuild these things (or just repair what was already there), got hit with a notice from the city for not having a permit to build! Thing was, a lot of these houses are spread out pretty far so no one knew who was ratting people out. The City manager’s daughter worked at the local hardware store!!!🤬😡. Small town drama man…. Once we figured it out, we were going to the hardware store and have long loud conversations about giant shops we were going to build, and how we were going to run the plumbing without the city knowing and yada yada yada just to supply her with false leads and waste her time 😂 Because fuck that guy! 😉

Can’t keep property at your grandparents house these days anymore???

I understand the city mishandled, lazy, without professionalism and consistency issue your grandfather the complaint/citation/court date. That is one issue but they do it all to make money and bully. I for one can understand them citing if it is against the code/rules/law... I would not like in a neighborhood buisness/home such as that being used for storage, it is a eye sore. However, they need to apply the rules fairly, consistency and clearly. If it actually is a violation. Selective enforcement is wrong but I think it is all about power, money.

Sounds like a neighbored complained and a lazy ass code enforcement officer trying to justify their existence and get some revenue for the city.

Ooof...this does make me sad. I work with the elderly and disabled on a pretty frequent basis. The way all of our systems ignore the needs of our most vulnerable is the standard not the exception. If you don't have people who truly have the time to care for you, you're screwed in this country.

same problem with our personal tow trucks, after i told the guy kiss my arse, i went above the guy who wrote the complaints and talked to head lady. told her same thing, my property and i do what i wants on all my properties. im not paying no stupid fines and thet not allowed back on my properties. been 7yrs and no more warning or nothing and inspectors just wave as ride by. code inspectors think it what they say, not what law is.

I had a similar problem storing my boat on my property years ago, city said the land under the wheels had to be improved, so I got bricks and stones, set them level with my yard, continued to mow/weedeat all around it, but city still complained, forced me to move my boat into a storage, turns out my neighbor next door was turning me in, I decided to return the favor and turn them in for the green pool, mosquitos and algae and the city fined them multiple times and even came out one time and boarded over their pool. It happens, just move on, not worth your time fighting over this as you won't win.......

The city we operate out of send one of these letters to me as well - then I see the bigger guy in my area has pulled all logos from his cans-so I hit him up at the dump, and he said he got 2 of these letters himself (it's a real city violation code here)- so I think I'm about to remove logos from my equipment.

Sounds like a neighbor doesn’t like grandpop and has a friend in the city.

Have a simple question...is there another dumpster company in the area? If so, does the owner of that company have an "in" with someone in the city/town government. Could be a relative, friend, etc. and if so...that could be the "issue" that you need to look into.

Most municipalities allow for someone to run a home based business as long as that business is not receiving retail customers at that home. Check out those regulations if you’re still having to deal with this.

It's your fine son, you caused this issue. Now pay the city and rent a storage lot.

typical local government. The mayor probably has a dumpster rental business, that's why they want smoke.

The first thing I’d be looking for is what code violation was actually cited in the letter. The accusation must be accompanied by a reference to the actual code violation. If it’s not, then they don’t have standing.

Your confusing me here , are you admitting to using his home to store and rotate your cans? That's operating a business off the property your saying that your parking them for convenience of your business, the owner .. him, is allowing it and they told him to stop. His living situation may require more family check in and ask him about mail or notices he can't understand. I can't live in city limits because of things like that, I do feel that I understand the social contract so to speak works here. It seems like your building something great for the community, I just think you should consider removing your dumpsters for the sake of people who don't want to live next to trucks coming and going for dumpsters ... it is a level of commercial activity that does effect the idea of a quiet neighborhood. 10 other people may be doing the same but your number came up

Well it's dumpsters to haul c&d and refuse.... if your in the city limits... you can't be running a business especially from a residential house. Especially a trash business lol... They need to be stored in a commercial lot or industrial lot if your in city limits. I think a neighbor called that in to the city. Because they are in plain view from a public street. If they were stored behind a privacy fenced area.. nobody have noticed it. We have our dumpsters stored in the city limits too. Placed right next to the road for advertisement. But we rent a yard thats commercial and fenced in. City haven't messed with us yet.

The city looks at it one of 2 ways. A. Homeowner operating a non compliant business in a residential neighborhood. B. The homeowner knowingly allows😮 someone to use the property who is operating a non compliant business in a residential neighborhood. Either way, it's the homeowner who is liable to correct and become compliant. The deeper issue is you (you said Grandpa probably doesn't even know). Putting the homeowner in jeopardy, which is 100% on you. You falsely believe that if you retained an attorney, you would win. Please explain the details of securing a court victory.

Give a little man (physically or mentally small) a little bit of power and he will often go bonkers with it. Commonly called Small Man Syndrome. It is the only way he can feel good about himself. I wish you well in protecting your grandfather.

Sound like an industrial business in the middle of residential neighborhood.

I wouldn't want dumpsters being picked up and dropped off across the street from my house on a daily basis. Your use of the property is obviously illegal, and you have now been cited. Man up and store your dumpsters on a properly zoned lot.

Good luck Bro. Support you all the way.👍

I'm sick and tired of people telling people that own their own property what they can and can't do on property, that's the reason they we buy the property

I would fight or at least file a complaint about it claiming discrimination since they let lawn care companies store their trailers on residential properties.

Countersue every time! Works like a charm.

It appears that the city really has no reason for the activity they are being fools to do.

Typical bureaucratic inefficiency!

It's not negligence. It's complete laziness and incompetence.

A totally understand your frustration apparently you can't do what you want with your own property I'm seeing a lot of this on KZfaq government saying you can't when it's your own land all I can say is hold in there I totally agree with you

I am just wondering, Since Grandpa is 90+ years old, Would he be willing to transfer the Title of Property/House to Granddaughter/Daughter/son to you. But, basically Still Have Full Control over everything. Nothing really Changes for him at all. Just On Paper only. Since, He doesn't really Speak English that Well and Unaware of Situations some of the times. Unless you do something like a Power of Attorney, Which would Give you or Granddaughter/Daughter/Grandson/son Legal Rights to take over any type of Legal type Contracts and Stuff. Including I think being a Replacement in Court instead of having to bring Him to the Court.

Go to a town hall meeting and address it there, it's also about what ever fine they can get

So what you are experiencing in your life is when a city auditor and in small towns everyone knows everyone. So first and foremost, You are dealing with the good old boys, and the question you need to ask yourself, Who's tows did you step on or someone you may have offended or made jealous. The second part is you are on the right track, and you have done your due diligence with the dumpsters being labeled correctly with Number name of business, it also wouldn't hurt to have the address on there as well. This completely negates the city and county from saying he is operating a business out of there. obviously it will not have the same address. and the last thing sometimes you do have to take these things to court and thats ok just make sure you find an attorney that is from a different district, this way there is less if not any lawyer to prosecutor relationship.

So What if you charged your Grandpa a $1 for the dumpster. Its a business transaction. The dumpster would be there legally. They could not say a thing then. Find out the legal length of time a dumpster can stay on a property in your town. Get it in writing from your local bi law and keep it in your truck for further reference. What happened to you is typical small town BS

All this hassle could have been avoided if you hadn't been operating part of your business out of your granddad's property. If you're storing your companies' empty dumpsters on your grandad's property and you're transferring them between there, your customers addresses and your business address that means your operating part of your business at your grandad's address.

People. Your government at work. Some one with a relatives in the business he after your business.