City sells wrong firetruck

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The ITEAM exposing a major mixup by The City of Jacksonville. The city sold a used firetruck, but turned over the wrong truck. She contacted the ITEAM when she says the city has refused to right the wrong.

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@t-wrecks7481
@t-wrecks7481 3 жыл бұрын
She holds title to that truck. Therefore they stole it and have damaged it. Big time lawsuit.
@t-wrecks7481
@t-wrecks7481 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorstohl6050 nope, sounds to me like they gave it to her
@zr71offroad20
@zr71offroad20 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorstohl6050 Yeah, the city gave her the truck, They cannot say she stole it because that would be a lie any charges involved would be dropped. Then this would give additional evidence for her lawsuit.
@cooloffroadtrucks
@cooloffroadtrucks 3 жыл бұрын
Technically they gave her this truck and if she wanted to really get them she could start the process of claiming it as abandoned after x amount of days it could be hers too lol.
@Caderic
@Caderic 3 жыл бұрын
@@t-wrecks7481 "...they gave it to her." Just like she gave them the money. The city did not "steal" her truck. She never had it in her possession and she freely gave them the money for the truck, so they did not steal the money either. There are no criminal charges there, it is only a civil case. But at minimum they did damage her property and maybe even commit fraud by giving here the "wrong" truck, both of which would be criminal, if guilty.
@Caderic
@Caderic 3 жыл бұрын
@@zr71offroad20 You are right, they gave it to her so it would be a lie, but that doesn't always stop criminal cases, so you can't say "charges involved would be dropped." People are wrongfully convicted.
@jspriver
@jspriver 3 жыл бұрын
If I accepted money for a vehicle and then gave somebody the wrong one and refused to change it… I’d be in jail for fraud
@wallaceluna6241
@wallaceluna6241 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. N ppl who say she's stupid or its her fault ecetera aren't to smart. City committed fraud. Same way a car dealership can't do this type of practice when selling cars. It's a huge lawsuit followed by fines/penalties and then loss of licenses aswell. She coulda technically asked the city for the paperwork on the truck they sent her, since her paperwork doesn't bind that truck to her and probably coulda technically owned that truck and the one they originally swindled her for.
@frankwhite5948
@frankwhite5948 3 жыл бұрын
Federal because it's over $5,000
@tynewlin
@tynewlin 3 жыл бұрын
@Tom Bombadildo your name 🤣 Mine used to be Rumple Foreskin.
@alphaspursncowboys
@alphaspursncowboys 3 жыл бұрын
Except it sounds like the problem is her hired transport took the wrong truck so she is now mad at the city because that truck has been used as a parts truck.
@Demonslayer20111
@Demonslayer20111 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphaspursncowboys city released the wrong vehicle to the transport driver. Should he have confirmed it was the right one? Sure. But the city gave him the WRONG ONE. Beleive me if he just rolled up and took a truck hed be in jail
@wazaagbreak-head6039
@wazaagbreak-head6039 Жыл бұрын
For anyone curios she sued and was granted full recompense for both the truck and transport costs
@Gold_Yoshi
@Gold_Yoshi Жыл бұрын
This took me 10 minutes to find someone who commented the answer. Thank you.
@sergeybrin1963
@sergeybrin1963 Жыл бұрын
I would've just gone up there, hotwired the truck I legally owned and drove it off the lot.
@vitd5283
@vitd5283 11 ай бұрын
@@sergeybrin1963 no you wouldnt
@diamondly6250
@diamondly6250 11 ай бұрын
@@sergeybrin1963 it was takin apart
@trevortanner420
@trevortanner420 3 ай бұрын
@@sergeybrin1963 HELL YEAH
@thecomedypilot5894
@thecomedypilot5894 Жыл бұрын
I like how instead of her first thought being wanting to get her money back, she instead just wanted to get her fire truck.
@quandale2648
@quandale2648 Жыл бұрын
npc
@nathanielholmes79
@nathanielholmes79 Жыл бұрын
@@quandale2648 sigma*
@hafizuddinmohdlowhim8426
@hafizuddinmohdlowhim8426 Жыл бұрын
She wants to-sell it
@jessecruz7707
@jessecruz7707 Жыл бұрын
I want to get my fire truck back, so I can sell it make even more of my money back*
@kkiidd77
@kkiidd77 Жыл бұрын
Bc she was gonna flip it... lol
@briananderson8733
@briananderson8733 3 жыл бұрын
This is called Fraud if any ordinary person did it.
@fomocowboy
@fomocowboy 3 жыл бұрын
It's still fraud. But the government gets away with that and worse on a daily basis.
@IMaximusDMI
@IMaximusDMI 3 жыл бұрын
The ol' switcheroo.
@tradeelmundo
@tradeelmundo 3 жыл бұрын
Its only fraud if it was intentional. They would still be liable for damages but, not fraud unless they can prove that they intentionally tried to deceive the buyer.
@briananderson8733
@briananderson8733 3 жыл бұрын
@@tradeelmundo However, removing all the other equipment from the truck before attempting to complete the transaction indicates an intent to deceive. As a juror, I would see it that way.
@NETWizzJbirk
@NETWizzJbirk 3 жыл бұрын
After repoing it, sue them for all the items stollen that make it different than auctioned.... make the city pay to replace each item they stripped
@stephen4764
@stephen4764 3 жыл бұрын
It seems pretty simple to me. She has the Title. She owns it. Not releasing it to her is the equivalent of Auto Theft. If they screwed up them that it is on them.
@scottstarling247
@scottstarling247 3 жыл бұрын
I second that argument @Stephen
@deadfreightwest5956
@deadfreightwest5956 3 жыл бұрын
This is my thought as well. If I have title to a vehicle that (some person or entity) has in their possession, then they are guilty of auto theft. For the same reason, she's on the hook (no pun intended) for the truck sent to her.
@Bryan_Kay
@Bryan_Kay 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, she should return the truck that they delivered her and she should file auto theft charges through the state attorney for the council members that are withholding her property.
@stephen4764
@stephen4764 3 жыл бұрын
They are not asking for it back though and I certainly wouldn't incur the cost of having it transported back to them. She is owed what she bought. They handed the wrong vehicle over to her transporter. They screwed up, not her.
@Bryan_Kay
@Bryan_Kay 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephen4764 I just say return it that way the city can't claim they are negotiating paying the "difference" via that $1500 check they are trying to toss her.
@jude_the_apostle
@jude_the_apostle Жыл бұрын
“this a fight she could win”… SHE OWNS THE FIRETRUCK
@reedr1659
@reedr1659 Жыл бұрын
Her lawyer is going to have a field day with this. This is a slam dunk.
@Chris-yq3kp
@Chris-yq3kp 3 жыл бұрын
Insane that when the government makes a mistake they can do whatever they want but if a citizen did the same they would go to jail.
@TheCRTman
@TheCRTman Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@kidsafe
@kidsafe Жыл бұрын
Governments have sovereign immunity and it sucks. I broke my scapula while riding my bike in 2017 due to negligent road maintenance/repairs and personal injury lawyers wouldn't even touch my case because the government is generally immune.
@murrayshekelberg9754
@murrayshekelberg9754 Жыл бұрын
@@Tadesan they're the ones that rigged the system.
@raspiankiado
@raspiankiado Жыл бұрын
@@kidsafe Even when they don't have sovereign immunity, the goverment can reach down the taxpayers' pockets and just keep shoveling, until the "issue" goes away.
@Squat5000
@Squat5000 Жыл бұрын
​@@kidsafe you broke yourself because you were reckless and crashed lol
@MrJavaman5
@MrJavaman5 3 жыл бұрын
Buyer: This isn’t what we agreed to. City of Jacksonville: I’ve altered the agreement. Pray that I do not alter it any further.
@scottb_02
@scottb_02 3 жыл бұрын
This deal is getting worse all the time..
@TheBasher-_-
@TheBasher-_- 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. But they don't have the title so they're kinda screwed too 😂
@NoStressVanLife
@NoStressVanLife 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottb_02 I hear she now owes them the cost of 2 brand new fire trucks. She should have just been happy trying to sell a truck she doesn't legally own and can't legally sell because the vin's don't match... But what do I know...
@philipethier9136
@philipethier9136 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoStressVanLife " I hear she now owes them the cost of 2 brand new fire trucks." Source?
@NoStressVanLife
@NoStressVanLife 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipethier9136 dude...really that was clearly the most sarcastic comment in existence.
@gregparrott
@gregparrott Жыл бұрын
This happened more than five years ago. Does anyone know what the outcome was? It sounds like a clear case, and the longer the fire department resists, the greater the bill
@OkieOtaku
@OkieOtaku Жыл бұрын
I tried looking it up and can't find anything right away
@ernest1576
@ernest1576 Жыл бұрын
That's because the city hid. It they do it all the time hide their mistakes but publish our mistake s
@gregparrott
@gregparrott Жыл бұрын
@@OkieOtaku It likely is not of enough significance to get much beyond local news services.
@sykomcawesomeness
@sykomcawesomeness Жыл бұрын
@@RC02216 ikr! wtf? o.0 I don't live in Florida and I don't watch videos about firetrucks, so no clue... o.o
@Fred-ff6bv
@Fred-ff6bv Жыл бұрын
@@sykomcawesomeness apparently, at least one of those statements is in error. 😂
@aftbit
@aftbit Жыл бұрын
5 years later... what happened? did she get the truck or a decent settlement?
@NooneStaar
@NooneStaar Жыл бұрын
I'd like to know as well
@tate8403
@tate8403 Жыл бұрын
She passed away sadly
@neyaneya5554
@neyaneya5554 Жыл бұрын
@@tate8403 cap. like farming with this comment.
@acp865
@acp865 Жыл бұрын
@Neya Neya try typing that again so it makes sense to us
@ev6558
@ev6558 Жыл бұрын
@@acp865 So there's this thing called the internet which is in some ways similar to the telegraph you grew up with...
@LawdyLawd
@LawdyLawd 3 жыл бұрын
The old bait & switch hoping the buyer doesn't notice.
@DoubleOddJosh
@DoubleOddJosh 3 жыл бұрын
The old switcheroo!!
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin 3 жыл бұрын
Buyer would ABSOLUTELY notice when VINs were checked for registration, inspection, etc. I hate governments but this was not a bait and switch but an honest mistake. The fact is the buyer should have required the VIN to be confirmed by the transporter at pick up. That would have stopped everything in place and seen it rectified. She cannot have the old truck, it was stripped. She can get a $ difference for the value difference, which she can always argue, or she should be able to return it for a full refund although the transport is on her head. Of course since the transporter did not confirm the VIN a case could be made that the transporter should have to eat that, especially if they want to do business with her in the future. There is not getting the original truck, it is stripped. Life sucks, deal with it.
@jackasshomey
@jackasshomey 3 жыл бұрын
i think that only really applies when they seller doesn't get the short end of the stick also... they ended up giving her a truck that looked to be in much better condition and they are offering the difference in price....
@greyfox79007
@greyfox79007 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethfharkin The fact that so many people dropped the ball tells you that it wasn't just the city even the lady didn't check at first. In fact it makes you wonder as to why they dropped the ball.
@jackasshomey
@jackasshomey 3 жыл бұрын
@SuperGoldnut they could easily change her name over to the vehicle they gave her accidentally, easy fix... but noooo she wants something that's already in pieces...
@j.chrislowe4813
@j.chrislowe4813 3 жыл бұрын
Two questions: who flips fire trucks and, more importantly, why am I watching this at 340am?
@jacobcornelius1278
@jacobcornelius1278 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve bought an sold several!
@benonihiggins8204
@benonihiggins8204 3 жыл бұрын
Used fire trucks are bought by construction companies ( spraying down buildings that are being demolished to keep the dust down). I know a fire truck from my local fire department was sold to a fire company in South America. New fire trucks cost $200,000+ so buying used is very cost effective especially when the trucks are well maintained the entire time they are in service
@skimasker3049
@skimasker3049 3 жыл бұрын
1:52 Am here!
@traveller4790
@traveller4790 3 жыл бұрын
There is just as big a market for used fire trucks as there is for used military vehicles. People will collect anything.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 3 жыл бұрын
Many rural or small towns buy used trucks because they can't afford to buy new ones. You can refurbish a fire truck and get even more.
@CliftonPhotographer
@CliftonPhotographer Жыл бұрын
I admire her for both saying my vehicle each time it was mentioned and the fact that she isn't backing down in the city trying to bully her! And for the reporter, I have to just say.... Say "VIN number"ONE MORE TIME!! 😡
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo Жыл бұрын
They better head to the ATM machine as ASAP as possible or they might RIP in peace.
@TheDOSGamer
@TheDOSGamer Жыл бұрын
@@kaldo_kaldo Why? So they can put in a PIN Number?!
@jesuschristiscallingyou953
@jesuschristiscallingyou953 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheDOSGamerInput it straight into the touchscreen LCD display!
@TristanVash38
@TristanVash38 Жыл бұрын
My NIC CARD in my computer stopped working!
@daniel-davis
@daniel-davis Жыл бұрын
I had to buy a new GPU because the PCB decided it wanted to become a toaster and burnt up 😂
@mattheweburns
@mattheweburns Жыл бұрын
That is incredibly illegal, if any individual did this at an auction, they would be in prison as a result. Whoever was ultimately responsible for that should be in prison and never have control over anything or anyone but themselves from here on. Knowing government work, there are probably a chain of scapegoats that circle back to each other all of them belong in jail, for being a part of something so corrupt
@martinkalmus3761
@martinkalmus3761 Жыл бұрын
City itself not need to fallow rules and thats a law lol If president kills someone then they hit hes fingers with wooden stick and repeat:Dont do it again and say sorry ^^ woops and go out playing hehe Good child,just little bit over hands hihi
@avacadomangobanana2588
@avacadomangobanana2588 Жыл бұрын
No they should not. You’re delusional
@electric_claire
@electric_claire Жыл бұрын
Nobody would end up in prison over something like this. Worst case scenario would be a full refund plus punitive damages. Most likely just a full refund plus any expenses she incurred.
@jonathanp896
@jonathanp896 Жыл бұрын
No you wouldn't, because fraud means there was a deliberate scam to advertise one fire truck and deliver a different one. That is unlikely in this case and even if it was would be very difficult to prove.
@gradymoxley2925
@gradymoxley2925 3 жыл бұрын
If a citizen did it, they would be sued until they were broke
@blackfacehardon5163
@blackfacehardon5163 3 жыл бұрын
And in jail
@PukMateusz
@PukMateusz 3 жыл бұрын
yeah.. they would be in jail hun
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk Жыл бұрын
They might be arrested for theft too. And then lose their mortgage if they don't post bond.
@govinda102000
@govinda102000 Жыл бұрын
@@Victor-tl4dk Yep. And arrest all the people who owned the truck. The taxpayers of Jacksonville.
@HobbyOrganist
@HobbyOrganist Жыл бұрын
@@Victor-tl4dk She COULD potentially be liable, you cant just keep property you didn't legally buy, that truck was not the one she paid for and she cant register it as the VIN doesnt match. Stripped for parts like the one she DID buy, makes that worth scrap value now, the city should just refund her money plus her transport and misc cost, give her the stripped truck to dispose of how she likes, and call it a day
@jbrown7063
@jbrown7063 3 жыл бұрын
Woman: “You sold me the wrong truck, can I...” City: “no givesies backsies”
@kalim4835
@kalim4835 3 жыл бұрын
For real, can I have the title back? She owns the vehicle so I'm pretty that title is hers.
@Zxavioure
@Zxavioure 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they can just file for a lost title.
@dangerdouglas6700
@dangerdouglas6700 3 жыл бұрын
lolllllll wtf
@vertisce2845
@vertisce2845 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalim4835 Yeah...at this point it could lead to grand theft auto. It's her title, she paid for it, she owns it and they stole her truck.
@everydaylifer2019
@everydaylifer2019 Жыл бұрын
@@Zxavioure no she can file for stolen and damaged vehicle. Which one would win in court.
@stunt-
@stunt- Жыл бұрын
I can’t think of one legitimate reason why they would damage it other than to just make this harder for her to just acquire what she legally owns
@bobafettjr85
@bobafettjr85 Жыл бұрын
They probably started scrapping it for parts before she contacted them, by the time they realized their mistake the damage was done. They didn't want to have to fix it back up so they tried to change the deal.
@RockinRocketScience
@RockinRocketScience Жыл бұрын
scraps
@zchris87v80
@zchris87v80 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if I sold you a car and delivered a different one, then you find out I started parting out the car you legally own. Wonder how many years I’d be locked up for fraud? Apparently none if I’m the government.
@jonathanp896
@jonathanp896 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing at all unusual about stripping one vehicle for parts to keep the rest of the fleet on the road. All organisations with large fleets of vehicles do it.
@sparkzbarca
@sparkzbarca Жыл бұрын
​@@zchris87v80you'd be locked up zero days given that you acted in good faith which they may have. Fraud legally is the INTENTIONAL use of deceit or trickery. A mistake is not a fraud, that's why this is civil. I assure you the city didn't intentionally list the wrong vehicle. They probably even intended to list the 2004 AFTER they stripped it. If they have multiple other 04' models and no other 02' ones they'd sell the 02 intact.
@FlowerMareEnjoyer
@FlowerMareEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. They gave her a truck she *doesn't* have the title to, and kept the truck she *does* have the title to. Even if she did take the money, if she's intending to flip the truck it sounds like a nightmare trying to resell a truck she doesn't have the title to.
@proton2316
@proton2316 3 жыл бұрын
She has the title, she can rightfully go and take it any time she wants
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 3 жыл бұрын
You would think
@common_c3nts
@common_c3nts 3 жыл бұрын
Once she transfers the title, she can show up with police and take her property back. At this point the city just needs to give all her auction money back then do a deal to swap titles to where she keeps the older truck for free. That is the only way to make this right if they wont restore and giver her truck back.
@alanbelcher2607
@alanbelcher2607 3 жыл бұрын
But the truck has been stripped of parts so it’s not worth picking up in the condition that it’s in currently..
@brandonfrancey5592
@brandonfrancey5592 3 жыл бұрын
@Christobanistan That's not how that works. If I steal your car and put it in my driveway, I can't say "You're not allowed onto my property." Bring cops and you will get your stuff back.
@_wanted_outlaw3007
@_wanted_outlaw3007 3 жыл бұрын
@Christobanistan it's not how it works, it's not impounded if it's drivable she can take it as it's her property she just needs police still allow her to be on the property to take it, it's just unfunctional because components were taken out so they damaged her vehicle..
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of VIN checking at gate release is really poor auction yard management...
@animalm4st3r
@animalm4st3r 3 жыл бұрын
also really poor management of the dude she hired to drive it down to her. wich is also why i doubt the city will be atfault, they will argue that the dude who picked it up is at fault
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 3 жыл бұрын
@@animalm4st3r No.
@thomasfletcher4765
@thomasfletcher4765 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work at an auto auction ( at times at the gate ) one of the things that is supposed to be checked is the VIN BEFORE the vehicle is allowed to leave the yard ( and the transporter is supposed to check that as well to make sure it is the right vehicle , too )
@kcwkembm
@kcwkembm 3 жыл бұрын
Transporter is to blame as well. I haul RVs from the factory and first thing i do is verify the vin
@thomasfletcher4765
@thomasfletcher4765 3 жыл бұрын
Transporter should be thankful they weren't stopped by the police
@robertdawson291
@robertdawson291 Жыл бұрын
The first time I made a comment on this, I was surprised about how many Jacksonville residents had complained about their City Hall and how crooked they are.
@peterliljebladh
@peterliljebladh 11 ай бұрын
Sell it back to the city, but deliver them a toy firetruck claiming an ooopsie.
@Mackathne
@Mackathne 3 жыл бұрын
She HAS the title, it's literally her truck. This would be an easy court case I imagine. She could have someone tow it out of whatever yard their keeping it in and I imagine Jax can't do a thing about it
@killzone3234
@killzone3234 3 жыл бұрын
she probably didnt want to spend thousands in court/lawyer costs
@insolentish4529
@insolentish4529 3 жыл бұрын
@@killzone3234 it's a civil suit, the losing city government would pay the lawyer fees
@lq7777
@lq7777 3 жыл бұрын
Except that she is in possession of a truck she does not have the title on. If she did that, I would imagine they could come after her. Maybe if she returned the truck she got, but even then government is not some random eBayer. She would probably get arrested.
@bobmazzi7435
@bobmazzi7435 3 жыл бұрын
Just grabbing the correct truck is only part of the issue. It's not in the condition it was sold as. It's worth a fraction of that after being stripped.
@Mackathne
@Mackathne 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobmazzi7435 ah totally right
@GregTGolden
@GregTGolden 3 жыл бұрын
The sad part is the city will spend 10s of thousands of dollars to fight this in court, rather than just right their wrong.
@jasonrodgers9063
@jasonrodgers9063 Жыл бұрын
Tens of thousands of TAXPAYER dollars!
@wildlifewarrior2670
@wildlifewarrior2670 Жыл бұрын
They don't care they're spending our money
@Temo990
@Temo990 Жыл бұрын
That problem exists if your country/state allows cities to leverage taxes. If they would get a fixed (but limited) share of tax revenue of the state/or federal government, they would have limited ressources and couldn't acquire more with taxes. Obviously there is no efficient use of money if wasting it has no negative effect (especially in a two party system).
@Alphoric
@Alphoric Жыл бұрын
Yh because she’ll take them to court because she got a better firetruck instead it’s so terrible that she could buy a firetruck that was broken and then they gave her a working one worth the same price oh no what on earth can she do 😭😭😭😭
@vert3432
@vert3432 Жыл бұрын
@@Alphoric They damaged it *after* she bought it. Imagine this. You own a car made in 2015. Let's pretend its a Cara Yadrems. You like this car, you drive it daily. Cool? Now, the city comes and tows off your car worth $15,000. They then strip it for parts, and give you a 2013 Cara Yadrems, probably with an extra 40,000 miles on it, worth maybe $12,500 at a stretch. Then they offer you $1,500 and *want the title for YOUR car*. You gonna be mad?
@smiley4995
@smiley4995 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the only thing I can think of is reporting it as stolen
@bawintermage8351
@bawintermage8351 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that she doesn't have a title for the truck she has and the one she paid for isnt in her possession. The city also basically blamed HER for taking the wrong truck, making it theft by misappropriation on her part. I'd just take the 1500+ an option to have first no bid deals on any new fire vehicles for sale in the next year or two as compensation .
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 3 жыл бұрын
The standard political response, "we investigated and discovered the error, but we're not going to fix it, lessons were learned". It's always the "lessons were learned" part that never gets believed, cause it keeps happening.
@jacobg5122
@jacobg5122 3 жыл бұрын
When you have a revolving door of low level employees who you can claim "learned their lesson", then you don't have to take any responsibility. The real lesson learned is by the victim of the offense who has now decided never to deal with governments again.
@johnhickman106
@johnhickman106 Жыл бұрын
It's just "lessons documented" so that they can say in the future, "mistakes were made, we are refining our process so this doesn't happen again."
@SubMeISubYouu
@SubMeISubYouu 3 жыл бұрын
Person 1: I am a policeman Person 2: I am a waiter This woman: I flip used firetrucks
@judahboyd2107
@judahboyd2107 3 жыл бұрын
She must be pretty strong.
@erwinschmidt7265
@erwinschmidt7265 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like City has stolen a firetruck, so same as with any vehicle, charges should be filed against City, and when they drag their heels, Mayor can be shown his new cot in Gray Bar Hotel!
@player400_official
@player400_official 5 ай бұрын
I just learned that there are people flipping FIRETRUCKS for profit. Who even buys them???
@stupidplumbing2343
@stupidplumbing2343 3 жыл бұрын
If a regular citizen does this, the city would be sending them to jail. But as far as government is concerned, the rules (law) don't apply to them.
@adrainmai1536
@adrainmai1536 3 жыл бұрын
Until Now, i hope she wins her rightful truck and monies lost!
@blackfacehardon5163
@blackfacehardon5163 3 жыл бұрын
Its always been that way
@gbae636
@gbae636 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@christianbh
@christianbh 3 жыл бұрын
Only the government can say “oops” and get away with it. If it was a person the selling party would be forced to fix the truck back to its original condition and then payed for wasting the buyers time.
@Quasar0406
@Quasar0406 3 жыл бұрын
@Jim McCracken that is also wrong
@Fopenplop
@Fopenplop Жыл бұрын
The government and most corporations. That's what an LLC is for.
@darrenwhite544
@darrenwhite544 Жыл бұрын
The person who picked it up should also be partly responsible for just leaving with the wrong vehicle instead of verifying that everything was correct
@wematanye533
@wematanye533 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. Everyone feels bad for the poor lady that drove away with the wrong truck and now wants the tax payers to make right by her. If you can't even do that basic level of diligence, you really have no business flipping. Both parties made mistakes and hurt the tax payers. I guess the station is now short a ladder truck - hopefully her mansion doesn't catch fire.
@oldtimefarmboy617
@oldtimefarmboy617 Жыл бұрын
VIN numbers and unit numbers are extremely easy to check. Either the bureaucrat in charge was too lazy and stupid to do something that simple or this was done purposefully because they decided they wanted the parts from the firetruck that they sold her so they switched them and hoped she was too stupid to notice.
@mipmipmipmipmip
@mipmipmipmipmip Жыл бұрын
It is her responsibility to check the VIN of the truck at the moment of picking it up. Actually she stole a truck now, city should send the cops over :)
@yommish
@yommish 11 ай бұрын
@@mipmipmipmipmipwhat kind of clown logic is this
@sloppydog4772
@sloppydog4772 3 жыл бұрын
The only winners in this situation is the lawyers...
@taeyonghasmejungshook3424
@taeyonghasmejungshook3424 3 жыл бұрын
When I read that title, I first thought that they had somehow mixed up the out of service fire truck with an in service fire truck.
@Imnotyourdoormat
@Imnotyourdoormat Жыл бұрын
If the situation was reversed this woman would still be in jail.....
@iloveplayingpr
@iloveplayingpr Жыл бұрын
I hope she wins in her lawsuit.
@mikaelandersson1288
@mikaelandersson1288 Жыл бұрын
She will.
@thepaladin8015
@thepaladin8015 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they decided to part it out to spite her.
@dedubh8016
@dedubh8016 3 жыл бұрын
The Transporter should have verified the VIN Number before accepting the truck
@traveller4790
@traveller4790 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If he had done that, none of this would have happened. Still, though, the city of Jacksonville is on the hook for this one ultimately. If she sues them, she'll win.
@chevy0771
@chevy0771 3 жыл бұрын
That as well.
@stephaniehowe0973
@stephaniehowe0973 3 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't?
@terriecotham1567
@terriecotham1567 3 жыл бұрын
Good point but the transportation pulled up to a government lot with paper work and the government told him witch truck to load.
@xheralt
@xheralt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
@thefix2573
@thefix2573 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the Tables were turned. You'd be in jail.
@Xargo
@Xargo Жыл бұрын
The sad part is she doesn't own the vehicle they gave her, so she can't sell it to even try and make some of the money back.
@walamo4796
@walamo4796 3 жыл бұрын
Any normal business operating like this would be closed and it’s workers indicted for fraud.
@garkar908
@garkar908 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, is this the same city that had a surgeon remove the wrong kidney? 😂
@tynewlin
@tynewlin 3 жыл бұрын
It's Jacksonville, so yeah, I'd believe that lol
@eurybaric
@eurybaric 3 жыл бұрын
Whaaat! Hot damn! :O
@theresehopkins1581
@theresehopkins1581 Жыл бұрын
Oh!!! What a great story!!! Looking forward to the updates!!! 😊
@rswisher09
@rswisher09 Жыл бұрын
Im sure the city will investigate itself and find no wrongdoing.
@pjplumber2146
@pjplumber2146 3 жыл бұрын
Rookie in the garage: hey guys that’s the wrong ..... All the seasoned pros: SHUT UP NEWBIE! Keep scrubbing the truck.
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 жыл бұрын
They need to make that truck whole & give her the truck she legally own!
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 жыл бұрын
odeis5 It had tires on it when she bought it & the city has already admitted that they have taking parts off the truck after it was already sold. She took detailed pictures of truck before she bought it. If she takes it in front of a judge she’s going to win & get her attorney fees paid for. Why do you think she should just accept what the city initially wanted to give her?
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 жыл бұрын
odeis5 As for the “as is” that is exactly what she wants - she what’s the truck that she bought just as it was when she bought it.
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 жыл бұрын
odeis5 I’ve read several articles on this and she took detailed pictures of the truck and sent them to the buyer she had lined up for it. SHE LEGALLY OWNS THE TRUCK AND SHE HAS THE LEGAL TITLE IN HER NAME!. My daughter is an attorney and she said it’s much easier & faster to get the city to do the right thing willingly than to go to the courts first.
@animalm4st3r
@animalm4st3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamielancaster01 who is she taking "detailed" pictures of the truck if she never went there and send someone else to pick it up WHO BY THE WAY PICKED UP THE WRONG ONE.
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 жыл бұрын
TurtleIsNotAngry I’m not sure what we are arguing about. She sued the city & the city settled with her before they went to court back in August.
@benunder50
@benunder50 Жыл бұрын
I clicked on this thinking it was some sort of satire. Instead I just watched an old news segment
@Elbert844
@Elbert844 Жыл бұрын
Why is a 5 year old story popping up on peoples reccomended list now?
@robertc2413
@robertc2413 3 жыл бұрын
I used to buy and sell fire and police vehicles for a local city government. It sounds like the vehicle she bought was already stripped for extra parts to use for other fire trucks. Instead of admitting that, they tried to pull a fast one and send her another... oops! They will bury the person responsible under mountains of red tape and he or she will never take responsibility. I hope the purchaser ends up with a substantial financial settlement.
@donk5058
@donk5058 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask why you right like this
@BUDDYSHADOW
@BUDDYSHADOW 3 жыл бұрын
@@donk5058 He's a poet in his current job, and it's hard to write normally when not working.
@daschwarz1649
@daschwarz1649 3 жыл бұрын
@@donk5058 The reason he " rights" because he knows how to write standard English.
@donk5058
@donk5058 3 жыл бұрын
@@daschwarz1649 o cool but why is the formatting so weird
@daschwarz1649
@daschwarz1649 3 жыл бұрын
@@donk5058 I would suspect a formatting error or limitation on the electronic he was writing on. Oh, and you get no points.
@overlandexpedition4656
@overlandexpedition4656 3 жыл бұрын
EASY SOLUTION: She has ownership papers; report the firetruck as stolen! Then force the Jacksonville PD to "recover" the vehicle! She would get the truck she's entitled to AND the City would be forced to pay restitution for damages! This isn't rocket-science!
@jokersman666
@jokersman666 3 жыл бұрын
@M W lol you don't... Armchair lawyers know it all though
@rustybones99
@rustybones99 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work like that. It’s a civil matter at this point and the PD can’t (shouldn’t) do anything about it
@youmurderer318
@youmurderer318 3 жыл бұрын
Laughing at you and the 48 people who upvoted this lol
@georgee6303
@georgee6303 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously have never heard of qualified immunity. It's almost next to impossible to take any legal action against the Government in this Country.
@smee5437
@smee5437 3 жыл бұрын
@milchuck Then why do they want the title back? Easy, they cannot do anything with that vehicle; they cannot sell it as they do not have the title. The state also would not issue a replacement since they are no longer the legal owner of it. As soon as they get that title, they can freely sell it. All she would need to do, file papers with the court and then take the court order to the sheriffs office and they are bound to enforce the court order that the vehicle is to be released. If the city wants to keep it, then they can try to convince the judge that they are the rightful owner even though they sold the vehicle and provided the title to the other party. All the city can do is delay and have legal fees accumulate; but when they lose, they will be out a lot more money and still not have that fire truck.
@Cheiff117
@Cheiff117 11 ай бұрын
Government casually doing Grand Theft Auto
@Automage45
@Automage45 Жыл бұрын
Love this women! I want to hug her and thank her! Heck of a engineer!
@addanametocontinue
@addanametocontinue 3 жыл бұрын
Seems the easiest thing is to give her a full refund, including what she may have paid to drive the truck to her.
@davej7458
@davej7458 Жыл бұрын
Somebody actually made a mistake, and now they think they can ignore their obligation and bully their way through the problem. They have the opportunity to make a good faith settlement or lose an embarrassing and expensive case in the Courts. Damages should include the additional money that She resold the truck for but was unable to collect and time spent dealing with the City.
@osco4311
@osco4311 Жыл бұрын
That's break-even, but it doesn't make up the profit she was going to make off the sale. Their mistake cost her money.
@retread1083
@retread1083 Жыл бұрын
@@osco4311, no court would ever consider the potential profit she might have made. The responsibility of the seller in this case would be to make the buyer 'whole'. In other words, if they can't give the buyer what was agreed upon, they must take whatever steps are necessary to restore the buyer to the same position they were in before the agreement was made. Any costs incurred by the buyer (detailing, transportation, legal fees, etc) would be reimbursed by the seller. The wrong truck and the title would be returned to the seller.
@osco4311
@osco4311 Жыл бұрын
@@retread1083 if she had a buyer lined up (she did) she can prove damages.
@jbb8382
@jbb8382 Жыл бұрын
@@retread1083 100% correct. You can't get your potential profits! Osco4311 is ridiculous!
@isaacy.3227
@isaacy.3227 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most American problem ever
@sagelg
@sagelg 3 жыл бұрын
How is this “the most American problem ever” it’s a serious problem all over the world. Not only did she buy something & was given something else & not only did she buy a truck have the paperwork for a specific truck (that if she were to get involved with the police in any matter when pertaining to the truck she will get arrested for not having the correct paperwork & will legally be seen as GTA) but more importantly she bought it from a governmental body & said governmental body not only gave her the wrong truck but are refusing to help her. A governmental body telling a citizen that they will get something only to give that citizen something else happens all over the world.
@thenotoriusbp
@thenotoriusbp 3 жыл бұрын
@@sagelg it was a funny haha
@pepethepatriot7524
@pepethepatriot7524 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what this has to do with "America" since this can happen in any country. You sound like a typical liberal "American hater"
@Alcosmos_
@Alcosmos_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@pepethepatriot7524 Private fire departments don't exist here in Spain at all. They are all run by the government and with new fire trucks only, so those old fire trucks are completely useless here. So yeah, it's a very American thing indeed.
@sagelg
@sagelg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alcosmos_ private fire departments don’t exist in America either. What the women wanted to do was buy an old truck, refurbish (or make it new if you don’t know what that means) & then give it away to a fire station that needs it.
@LotsofStuffYT
@LotsofStuffYT Жыл бұрын
Does the city have an attorney? If they do I would think their job could be in jeopardy because they didn't warn them they would get sued. She could sue for her lawyer fees too.
@garlicbreadjenkins5780
@garlicbreadjenkins5780 3 жыл бұрын
report the truck stolen, she has the title
@Max_basil
@Max_basil 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a cop in Jacksonville and suddenly the fire truck driving past you lights and sirens shows up on your computer as reported stolen.
@robmoney4life
@robmoney4life 3 жыл бұрын
@@Max_basil lol they wouldn't do anything
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 3 жыл бұрын
Its a civil matter. Not a criminal incident. Just giving the details of the "theft" to the cops they would tell her its not technically stolen.
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 3 жыл бұрын
She needs a lawyer, not the cops. But then it's a question of cost vs benefits of getting the right truck back... might be a good small claims complaint
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 3 жыл бұрын
a quick court trip would get a bond guy to track the truck into the public domain, and then grab it with the keys in it!!
@johnferguson6389
@johnferguson6389 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely sounds like Jacksonville is trying to get out of paying a boatload of money and doing a CYA at the same time.
@outlawbillionairez9780
@outlawbillionairez9780 Жыл бұрын
Looking through public records, I find NO city employees selling the wrong personal car they own. That's weird.
@chadbertrand1460
@chadbertrand1460 Жыл бұрын
5 years later, anyone know how this was resolved?
@bdcochran01
@bdcochran01 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the civil servant retired.
@robertdawson9114
@robertdawson9114 3 жыл бұрын
In the last five years I have continually heard bad things about Jacksonville Florida makes me not want to go there.
@MrAfx34
@MrAfx34 3 жыл бұрын
TRUST ME U DONT!! i live here in DUVALLLL CO. on the westside KILLINGS everyday!!
@nilknarf483
@nilknarf483 3 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Jacksonville all my life Robert and you can trust me when I tell you you absolutely DO NOT WANT TO LIVE HERE. It is HORRIBLE. All the bad stories you have heard are TRUE and then some. All the good stories you have hear are LIES made up by the greedy Chamber of Commerce.
@robertdawson9114
@robertdawson9114 3 жыл бұрын
nilknarf483 But at least Jacksonville Florida is the biggest city in America. Too bad most of it is a swamp. Is that true or not.👍😁😎
@MrAfx34
@MrAfx34 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertdawson9114 no
@robertdawson9114
@robertdawson9114 3 жыл бұрын
Derek G it’s like that here in Atlanta, if there’s not a killing one day the next day there are two Atlanta has gone downhill.👍😁😎
@Shark_King325
@Shark_King325 3 жыл бұрын
She should sue the city for a bait and switch
@AngelArm1110
@AngelArm1110 Жыл бұрын
This is an open and shut case. She has them over a barrel, and they should just pay up and bugger off!
@randallsmerna384
@randallsmerna384 Жыл бұрын
City MUST pay her for what she reasonably believes the profit could have been! That is the ONLY solution!
@KevinSun242
@KevinSun242 3 жыл бұрын
She should just go take the truck and now she owns two fire trucks lol.
@alexreyes3869
@alexreyes3869 3 жыл бұрын
be like sorry we screwd up
@alexreyes3869
@alexreyes3869 3 жыл бұрын
but its different when its them tho. they take it personally
@Yaco_Taco
@Yaco_Taco 3 жыл бұрын
She should but now things are missing from it that were there when she bought it
@alexreyes3869
@alexreyes3869 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yaco_Taco aw man yea had to rewatch they did dismantle it for parts
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 3 жыл бұрын
They should give her a complimentary "Sorry we screwed up" free fire truck. It was their error and I would sooner see the money go to her rather than some cold government owned auction that clearly has more money than brains anyway.
@207522
@207522 3 жыл бұрын
If the city mistakenly parted out a truck this woman legally owns they are legally required to repair her truck for her before returning it to her. If she has all the paperwork to prove she owns it the city is committing vandalism if they continue to take parts off her truck knowing they don't own legally it. It sounds like she needs to hire an attorney and possibly press charges as well.
@davej7458
@davej7458 Жыл бұрын
Not likely to be a good enough answer. Miscellaneous unknown old parts slapped together are not going to be equal to the value of the well maintained truck they sold her. Government will screw you out of a dollar even if it costs thousands of dollars to do it.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt Жыл бұрын
Govs running a chop shop. I wouldn't pay criminals taxes and would move away immediately.
@Range-X
@Range-X 11 ай бұрын
That woman’s a go getter. Nothing but respect
@tronixfix
@tronixfix Жыл бұрын
Report the theft and inform the city to pick up their belongings.
@josh7120
@josh7120 3 жыл бұрын
So basically she has a firetruck with no title. And a title to a another firetruck she dosnt have? And now the title she owns for the other firetruck, she can repo it legally?
@LCARSDATANODE
@LCARSDATANODE 3 жыл бұрын
maybe, but not without getting it running again. its been stripped for parts.
@josh7120
@josh7120 3 жыл бұрын
@@LCARSDATANODE thats true..
@stephen4764
@stephen4764 3 жыл бұрын
@@LCARSDATANODE I think what she bought ended being rebuilt and put into service.
@fraidykat
@fraidykat 3 жыл бұрын
And further charge for every part removed since the moment of sale.
@machninety7334
@machninety7334 3 жыл бұрын
My car was once parked in front of my friends house. It was snowing, and there wasn’t any parking ban issued. We went to a ski resort that was local. Returning back from our trip, I seen my car completely smashed in on the fender and wheel area completely destroying the car. I called the police, and they said they would send someone out. 5 hours later no one showed up. I called a couple more times and they kept saying someone would come. The neighbors came out and said they seen what happened. A city snow plow truck had smashed into it. I called the police back and they told me I would have to fix my car myself, and then send the city the bill and they would determine if the repairs were necessary. I told them I needed their insurance information and they refused. Also, since I was now deprived of a vehicle I relied on for transportation, I told them by law I must be given a rental vehicle until my car was repaired. I was threatened on the phone by a police officer saying that if I kept causing trouble they would charge me with illegally parking a car and obstructing police. So I called 19 action news. A few hours later I was on TV and I told my story. And guess what? The next day I was contacted by someone. They gave me the information I needed, got me a tow truck to tow my vehicle to the repair shop of my choosing, which is the law, and they said all damages would be paid for in full. And guess what else? I got my rental car. Unfortunately I still missed 3 classes at the college I was attending but at least it was handled. Funny thing though, after all that was taken care of, the news network pulled my video off of their site and it was no where to be found anymore. I wish I still had it. I liked being on TV. Made me feel cool fighting for justice and holding the city accountable and forcing them to OBEY THE LAW.
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Жыл бұрын
Why you didn't record or capture that clip bruh?!?!
@Blanco1967
@Blanco1967 Жыл бұрын
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS this sounds like it was a while back.
@chandlerbing7570
@chandlerbing7570 Жыл бұрын
If this was recorded today, i guarantee this would be said "I haven't been able to sleep. This is given me anxiety and is really affecting my mental health"
@kevinshea4776
@kevinshea4776 Жыл бұрын
I like how they tried to blame it on the transport for not first verifying the VIN. Um...The City released the wrong truck to the transport is relevant, but not mentioned in the City Press release! The transport checking their job isn't!
@ryanv3751
@ryanv3751 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the transporter should share some responsibility for not verifying the vin and truck numbers.
@berkeleycarlos
@berkeleycarlos 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 mins it would take to check the truck number and VIN , before loading it for transport would have saved a lot of people a lot of heartburn.
@didsomebodysaydmt8193
@didsomebodysaydmt8193 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say he kinda did her a favor,lol. At least she has something for the 10 grand. If the truck she bought was "on the road" already she would have been out 10 grand and no truck. And it would have been 6 months or a year before she got her money back. They would have dragged that out for sure. Not to mention she still would have been charged by the transporter for at least half of the bill. Or the driver knew what was up and didn't want to lose a load,lol.
@highpockets5340
@highpockets5340 3 жыл бұрын
If there was damage/delay, then yes. Wrong vehicle released, wrong title released Totally Auctions fault.
@KayColeLynn
@KayColeLynn 3 жыл бұрын
@@highpockets5340 but at the same time, if you are transporting a vehicle or any type, you should check the the vin to make sure you are being given the correct thing, even if the seller is saying it’s correct it may not be and checking the vin verifys that information. That being said the person that verified the release of the truck also should have checked the vin of the truck that was released against the one she bought. Honestly everyone is at fault for this is some way or another
@highpockets5340
@highpockets5340 3 жыл бұрын
@@KayColeLynn Sorry but only the person that released the wrong truck is responsible. Transport/driver did their job from pt A to B without damage/delay. I Think of it like a delivery from Amazon, if the contents are wrong is it the drivers fault?
@stonedalldayjedi533
@stonedalldayjedi533 3 жыл бұрын
2 years old..recommended to everyone in the past 24 hours
@carenthusiast8275
@carenthusiast8275 Жыл бұрын
That deadpan “yay I got a fire truck” 😂 1:30
@lancecluster
@lancecluster Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of the "Michigan's Columbus: The Life of Douglass Houghton" book you wrote. Originally being from Michigan and being familiar with Houghton Lake I decided to order a copy of the book.
@David-td4ik
@David-td4ik 3 жыл бұрын
you know the lady who drives a fire truck casually is not the one you want to mess with
@fastrice3461
@fastrice3461 3 жыл бұрын
“Can I have the title back?” Lol
@PeterShipley1
@PeterShipley1 Жыл бұрын
clearly the person she hired to transport the truck failed to verify the vin.
@gamefreak2016
@gamefreak2016 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely it needs to go to court. Id love to know more about how the court case is going
@miastrong151
@miastrong151 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the fire truck? Don't leave us hanging. Did she get the money back or her truck?
@codeoptimizationware2803
@codeoptimizationware2803 3 жыл бұрын
@Mia Strong : Agreed. Very strange, though, how the news almost never runs follow-up stories. I'd like to know what happened after that story too.
@onbored9627
@onbored9627 3 жыл бұрын
@@codeoptimizationware2803 Hope fully she got paid off or got her truck and signed a NDO and thats why we haven't heard. The reddit patrol will probably find out.
@codeoptimizationware2803
@codeoptimizationware2803 3 жыл бұрын
@@onbored9627 : Well I hope she got a good prosecuting lawyer with which to fight her case in Court.
@miastrong151
@miastrong151 3 жыл бұрын
@onii-chan's manko I looked online and couldn't find anything about it. I don't believe that that would happen.
@onbored9627
@onbored9627 3 жыл бұрын
@onii-chan's manko link or proof?
@bartyr5150
@bartyr5150 3 жыл бұрын
If she has the title she should be able to charge someone with theft
@VidClips858
@VidClips858 3 жыл бұрын
It's civil non-delivery, not criminal theft. She never had possession of it in order for it to be stolen from her.
@bok..
@bok.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@VidClips858 ikr, everybody is out here saying the city commited a felony!
@JordanPeterson.
@JordanPeterson. Жыл бұрын
City really said i dont give a truck
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 Жыл бұрын
I went to look at an RV for sale. The seller promised me a lot of extras that weren't there at the moment, so I just made a 50% payment and told him I'd be back to get the RV and the extras when it was convenient for both of us. He called and I drove the 2 hour drive to pick it up. He didn't have the extras, claiming they were at his dad's and his dad was out of town. The RV was in a storage facility and this was the last day on his rent. So, he promised he'd bring me the extras to my house when his dad got back, if I'd pay the other 50%. I figured approximately how much the extras would cost and offered to give him the rest of the money, minus what the extras were worth. Then if he brought them to me I'd give him the amount I was holding back for them. He didn't like that idea and I brutally laid it out for him. If I gave him the complete amount he had no incentive to bring me the stuff and I didn't know where he lived. I plainly told him that I didn't trust him and that the deal was off. I asked for my money back. He claimed he'd already spent it, so I called the cops. Before the cops got there he left and while I was explaining things to them he returned with the money. He was trying to scam me and the cops had seen it all before. I stood my ground and didn't worry about hurting his feelings. I'm sure others weren't so fortunate!
@stefanx8344
@stefanx8344 3 жыл бұрын
I have a golden idea: we buy a fleet of firetrucks then start fires in areas repeatedly, making the trucks price skyrocket, THEN we flip em.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 3 жыл бұрын
Antifa, is that you?
@kato2395
@kato2395 3 жыл бұрын
Blm is that you?
@stefanx8344
@stefanx8344 3 жыл бұрын
The two comments above me are clearly not talented in the art of doing business. Bringing politics into this will not benefit our profit margin whatsoever. The money in my pocket wont feel different, weather the person it came from has a skin that is white brown black or burnt to a crisp like the survivors of the fires mentioned earlier. Smdh.
@kato2395
@kato2395 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanx8344 if you're talented in doing business you would look for the organization/individual that is good at doing the burning. Yeah idc wether they are black, white, yellow or green.
@james_ford86
@james_ford86 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanx8344 Well, I'm shaking my damn head over how you got the word "weather" confused for "whether." Go back to school man.
@allywilkeforsenate
@allywilkeforsenate 3 жыл бұрын
Absoloutly vehicle fraud and a citzen would be arrested for it.
@gunnargu
@gunnargu Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't she just report her truck as "stolen" :P
@randallsmerna384
@randallsmerna384 Жыл бұрын
She's got the title she just has to report it as stolen.
@Harley365
@Harley365 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the city couldn’t get ahold of her. She is fighting to get the truck why would she ignore them. Sue the hell out of hem
@TrafficCamWatch
@TrafficCamWatch 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know the outcome as of this comment but she unquestionably has the legal right to sue, or at least in most states in these bait and switch situations involving vehicles. I would love to hear about an update. NOTE: This is from 2018 and it's only now being noticed on KZfaq? What a weird algorithm.
@fyrman9092
@fyrman9092 3 жыл бұрын
Love it when the government has to defend itself against being stupid.
@ProperLogicalDebate
@ProperLogicalDebate 3 жыл бұрын
@@fyrman9092 The government will blame someone else. Who could that be? They will blame the transporter employee and ignore their employee. So sorry but we did improve so (maybe) it won't happen again.
@greathornedowl3644
@greathornedowl3644 Жыл бұрын
🤷‍♂City has to make her whole, all the money she spent at auction, detailing, and transportation. Then, negotiate if she wants the old truck, if not city has to be to transport it back.
@RayneHellfire
@RayneHellfire Жыл бұрын
This is called Damages. If I did this to someone else or a company they would rightfully be furious. She is owed what she bought for business, insurance and legal purposes!
@laustinspeiss
@laustinspeiss 3 жыл бұрын
The fact they’ve stripped HER truck for parts, makes the transaction to fix regis, a lot more complicated. Depending on the terms of the sale, it could range from a refund, replacement, or up to providing an alternate product to the same value and functionality as the ‘misplaced’ item. If I was her, I’d start by lodging a claim for a new truck with all matching equipment, then let them negotiate down from that with my lawyer - and they’re paying for them too !
@Peter-jl4ki
@Peter-jl4ki Жыл бұрын
Yep. The $1500 difference is somewhat reasonable as a good faith first offer to make her whole. But their bargaining position is gone after stripping the vehicle while she owned it, so she has no reason to take that offer.
@Peter-jl4ki
@Peter-jl4ki Жыл бұрын
@Snowsc Used firetrucks are not considered fungible. They stripped her truck by accident, so they owe her full restoration of her truck. They owe her the truck plus restoration of the truck, which would probably cost them about 20'000. They want to give her a different cheaper truck, of their choosing, and the difference in price, which costs them nothing (she already paid for it). She didn't buy that different truck, and they can't force her to accept it. Used firetrucks are not fungible. The moment they refused to give her her truck when notified about the mistake, they made it much harder to claim it's all an accident, which opens the possibility of damages as well.
@countfrackula6707
@countfrackula6707 Жыл бұрын
If I was her, I'd contact local PD, call it "stolen" (because it was) and tell them that a PI found it stripped for parts at x location. Press charges on the people who stole it.
@catsabotage3362
@catsabotage3362 Жыл бұрын
​@@countfrackula6707 cops never do anything against government workers unless those workers are doing something to fix our police state.
@Pete391
@Pete391 3 жыл бұрын
The city needs to pay her all her money back and transport fees she is out and come get the 2002 truck....
@ickypowwow6635
@ickypowwow6635 3 жыл бұрын
thats not how it works. like the attorney explained she paid for it and received a title, after that point it was her property.
@ickypowwow6635
@ickypowwow6635 3 жыл бұрын
Once you pay for something it is your property. The seller doesnt get to just take it back if they want and refund the money.
@SupaStah01
@SupaStah01 3 жыл бұрын
@@ickypowwow6635 she paid for a truck to go along with that title.
@ickypowwow6635
@ickypowwow6635 3 жыл бұрын
SupaStah01 that’s my point
@ickypowwow6635
@ickypowwow6635 3 жыл бұрын
soupertrooper thats my point it’s still her vehicle they don’t get to just take it back and refund the money. That’s not how sales work
@DCS026
@DCS026 Жыл бұрын
I was a driver at one point. One thing I NEVER did was leave with the wrong vehicle. Number one thing you do, CHECK THE VIN before you accept anything. Then check the entire vehicle for everything, damage, oil, tires, lights, brakes, etc. The driver should have caught this, number one rule. However, he didn't, and the city didn't, no one caught it. Bottom line, she did not get her vehicle, the city took her money and failed to make good on the deal. Should be a quick trial.
@ChuckleHoneybear
@ChuckleHoneybear Жыл бұрын
I'm a law student and she can also claim the money she didn't earn from the client.
@ryang1589
@ryang1589 3 жыл бұрын
When we the people do something wrong we are held accountable we need to hold our officials accountable
@jackseamon7064
@jackseamon7064 Жыл бұрын
If the city canned the employees who messed up checking the certifiable identification numbers on two vehicles, they would find the money to fix her truck and cover the costs from the salaries. And they'd be freed from a useless employee or ten...
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