Civil War Era Locomotive on "The West" by Steve Ives and Ken Burns

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Civil War Era Locomotive on "The West" by Steve Ives and Ken Burns

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7 жыл бұрын

1877 locomotive "Eureka" from the Eureka and Palisades narrow gauge railroad on Nevada. The locomotive was rebuilt by Dan Markoff of Las Vegas in his back yard. And here used on the PBS series "The West directed by Steve Ives and produced by Ken Burns. Cinematographer Buddy Squires.
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Travel to Durango and Silverton in Colorado to watch the filming and generally screw around with 2 steam trains including the private business car Nomad (Civil War General Palmers car) and a 1880 era caboose. Shot in the late fall of 1994.
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Some of the BEST Eureka footage ever. If you love early trains, you will enjoy this. Or at least not find it boring!
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@nathancorcoran5347 5 жыл бұрын

That was a incredible flashback story of Dans Steam Locomotive, Eureka & Palisade #4 “Eureka”.

@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын

That was an amazing trip. Great show! Ken Burns people know their stuff.

@RaveApe 4 жыл бұрын

I drive along the Eureka Palisade line almost every day and wondered what the narrow gauge locomotive looked like. I'm glad someone saved that piece of Nevada history.

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

I really want to get back out there!!!!!! When I was there in the 90s a found hundreds of original telegraph poles along the old grade. Square timber cut! Didn’t take any photos like a fool! So we need to come back and see what’s still about!

@tom7601 7 жыл бұрын

The old 8-wheelers were glorious machines.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

My fave. Just a quick count, um, lets see. 1 in N, 8 in HO, 2 in On3, 4 in O standard and 2 in F scale. guess I need an Sn3.

@Mark-Milw42 7 жыл бұрын

This is what dreams are made of. Lots of memories of what never happened. I missed out riding in the cab of a C.M. St..P & .P steam switch engine in the early 50's. I never forgot it. Love the old equipment - they're Alive!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

THe #4 is so amazing too. And in a back yard!!! Wow...

@CoasterFan2105 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a fantastic story and set of videos to accompany it! That was awesome!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! What a trip this was. And 4 should be back on the Colorado lines soon. We all hope.

@kindcake 3 жыл бұрын

Hi coasterfan2105 I like your videos especially the one on how to identify freight locomotives

@ritaloy8338 7 жыл бұрын

I would love to see more of your past video that you have because I really appreciate your form of screwing around.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

More coming. Now that I have the old recorders working well. And able to clean up the video a bit.

@kerridillon3120 7 жыл бұрын

I've watched this video 6 times due in part to the wonderful background fiddle music that makes me cry! I really love the old time trains, with my California favorite being the Roaring Camp Railroad in Felton. I sincerely would like to take you Karyn & the Rat Fink out to dinner whenever you are near the Disneyland area. Thanks for this very special video! Your relaxing voice & commentary set me at ease after a long day! Keep up the good work of screwing around! :) Kerri the Merri

@roycooper4898 2 жыл бұрын

She is a beauty the did a magnificent job restoring it

@ToyManTelevision 2 жыл бұрын

Big event July forth in Carson City with this and 10 other locomotives

@brandonschurman5797 7 жыл бұрын

I swear this is the best TV show

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

We love it too. But we have a bias.

@PeterCPRail8748 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic loco of a by gone era

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

And soon the passenger car will be done.

@Shipwright1918 Жыл бұрын

Handsome little engine, one day I hope to see it person and say thanks to Dan for restoring 'er.

@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын

You and me both!

@georgebottarini1788 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Looking at some of your vids. True jewel.

@larrymonske8086 6 жыл бұрын

the wood work so much by craftsmen that built some fabulous.

@larrymonske8086 6 жыл бұрын

Id feed this train firewood all day just to watch it run.

@pbyfr 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent. The scenery makes it wonderful.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

The San Juans....

@jacobmorgan7974 7 жыл бұрын

You told me at the recent Hostlers train show that this episode would be really cool, and you delivered on you're promise. This was amazing.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to Dan heading back to Durango or Chama with #4 AND the passenger car, (and the little flat car Dan built). SOON!!!!!!

@crystalrock18 7 жыл бұрын

Here is the ironic part, the videos that you shot out in Colorado and New Mexico I remember watching so religiously I wore out my VHS. The videos you shot had mezmorized and I couldn't get my face off the screen. So thanks to you kind sir, you had me hooked on narrow gauge since I was 5. Today I'm proud to say I got to ride on the D&SRR and I still sit and dream here in my home in eastern MO wondering when I'll get to go again. Also coming from a guy who loves to play blue grass fiddle thank as always for incorperating fiddle tunes into you videos, for now cheers to you both and keep the sweet train videos coming. Andy

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!! Have loved making videos for ever. KZfaq is the new VHS I guess!! So here we are again. Or still. Some more..... Glad you like them. Love hearing stories of people remembering the "old shows".

@crystalrock18 7 жыл бұрын

Watching these old videos is like seeing an old friend again and realizing why we became friends you know? Anyway look forward to many more great railroad videos take care!!!!

@greggkoehler6826 7 жыл бұрын

snowy day here in northern CA, no Mustang driving for me today. it's toy man television watching for this guy! love the trains and of course the MUSTANGS.

@13thBear 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, I was almost salivating seeing that grand and glorious 4-4-0 American running on the tracks in that beautiful natural scenery. I don't have enough of the right superlatives to fully express my joy right now at seeing the old steamer. I'm a model railroader and not much of a trainchaser, so seeing this was a great way to spend a few minutes. THIS is what I truly enjoy about KZfaq- seeing historical subjects. Thank you so very much for posting this treasure!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! It was a great few days back then.

@kerridillon3120 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Toyman! I just saw this locomotive at the very beginning & intermittently in Episode 5 of Ken Burns "The West!" Magnificent! So glad you gave us the background story of the filming!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Still finding footage too...

@kerridillon3120 7 жыл бұрын

Toy Man Television- Please give us more footage of this beautiful train!!

@jeanneuzarhudson8207 7 жыл бұрын

What a treasure trove of footage to be able to sit on the sofa and enjoy. I often come close to that Bachmann 1:20.3 and "almost" buy it on that famous auction site. I would settle for the plastic as the left hand is worse off then the right and unable to modify. But, reality sets in and my lovely Bride's voice rings in my brain, and once again I am without one. What fabulous footage and what fun this must of been. Great, as always. Greg and Jeanne.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Hello!! Hope you get one. Dang they are cool. I "need" 3 more. The new 2-6-0s are amazing. I want the Eureka and Palisades Reville, the Glenbrook, and Ward Kimball Emma Nevada locomotive. That will do for now. I guess.

@jeanneuzarhudson8207 7 жыл бұрын

Ward Kimball said it best, "He who dies with the most trains, Wins!" So many trains, so little time. Carry on

@riochcogan8913 6 жыл бұрын

keep warm guys, great screwing around.

@redtrain9419 7 жыл бұрын

Love the Eureka... I think the best part about her is the brass lining! Great video!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

I'm rebuilding a Bachmann to make it right, real wood and brass, AND a brass model of it. Will be a show or two I assume.

@redtrain9419 7 жыл бұрын

Well I'd certainly like to see a video of that! I've always had a high interest for trains in general, but more than anything old american steam engines. Being from Georgia, it's sorta natural that my favorite locomotive of all time is shared by two engines: General & Texas. Ever done a show on those two? The Texas is finishing its cosmetic restoration in North Carolina April 28th!

@chubby7570 6 жыл бұрын

that is cool, talk about dedicating your life to history and love for old steam locos

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

And all toys!!! Trains are just the coolest ones....

@slam854 5 жыл бұрын

That is History in the making. Great filmwork, Dale & Karyn. All I can say is "WOW!". Thank You!

@robertsanders6463 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you great video!

@ToyManTelevision 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@tomeskes4280 7 жыл бұрын

I found your channel from one of the Big Boy videos you made. I just wanted to let you know how impressed I am with your videography, narration, and editing. You produce some of the highest quality videos on youtube. Even things I don't think I'll have much interest in you make fascinating. Thanks and keep them coming!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Some people find the non train or non car shows boring. Sigh..... But we just do what we love and have fun doing it!!

@samfuller6273 4 жыл бұрын

Great show!

@gleanerk 7 жыл бұрын

👍🏻im lost for words! Thanks

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Great fun!!

@professorx4946 7 жыл бұрын

Very enjoyable, thanks for sharing this great footage.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

This was from half the footage. Still looking for the other half!!

@larrymonske8086 6 жыл бұрын

you guys we luv ya. This ole Vet needs a place to live its a hindrance rent so high you get forced out of a home.

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

Hope that works out. GOOD LUCK.

@AgedAxes 7 жыл бұрын

One of the top ten Toy Mans!!!! Loved it, but I m sure you knew I would!!!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

What an engine!!! What a trip!!! Need to find the rest of the video. This was half...

@roelofluinge3208 7 жыл бұрын

heel mooi, Thanks for watchimg

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks you for watching.

@ggsumner1947 7 жыл бұрын

Have been out of the loop, so I'm glad to finally see this wonderful footage you shot. Very well done. Now if I can catch up on the rest of your posts.

@earllutz2663 3 жыл бұрын

I always enjoy your videos & commentary, AND YES, I HAVE SUBSCRIBED.

@bobbybaldeagle702 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing back some good old memories I really do enjoy your channel....

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Some GOOD fun.

@jrayproductions7790 6 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love listening to your stories and narration in your videos.

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

I tend to yak a bit... Ask my old students.

@jrayproductions7790 6 жыл бұрын

Toy Man Television As am I, my friend. I enjoy the stories, though. It hads so much to the videos.

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!!

@jrayproductions7790 6 жыл бұрын

Lord, those typos. I hate typing on a phone...anyway, you're very welcome. You ought to come screw around in Georgia, some time. There are some really cool railroads and historic sites.

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

AND a GOOD friend just moved there. Hum........

@BCSchmerker 7 жыл бұрын

+ToyManTelevision *4-4-0 Baldwin Class 8/18C, 3'-0" Gage, #3763, left Philadelphia only a month behind Virginia & Truckee River #22,* 4-4-0 Baldwin Class 8/22C, 4'-8.5" Gage, #3693, and was finished consistently with the V&TRR's 2-6-0 Baldwin 8/22D ore-pullers. The Westinghouse air pump was often retrofitted just ahead of the engineer's side of the cab by the roads that already owned these locomotives, and #3763 is no exception.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Dan's original goal was to return the locomotive to as delivered by Baldwin. However, as he wanted to run the locomotive, it was pointed out that removing the Westinghouse breaks and the injectors as well as going back to link and pin would ban him from most if not all railroads and make the locomotive very unsafe.

@gregsmith1719 7 жыл бұрын

Great one! I love to see these places with the old equipment, and such great photography, too. Thanks to much!

@jabru41 6 жыл бұрын

Yessssss!!!! Thanks for posting!

@emeraldvalleywoodworking 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks !! So much FUN making it too. Soon, off to California to film a bunch of railroads

@tjorgensen2007 7 жыл бұрын

This is great!!I could see that this was a very exciting time for you being able to film all the shots. :)

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

So much FUN!!!!!!

@sonnydean3187 7 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos...

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Do share!!!!

@tom7601 7 жыл бұрын

A Texas rancher went to Maine and came across an old farmer. They talked a bit and the rancher, being a Texan, had to brag just a bit; "Ya know, it takes me a full day to drive from one end of my ranch to the other. The Maine farmer kicked at a rock and said, "Yep, had me an old truck like that too." Hey, you started it. :>)

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

A great carpenter in Maine builds a new outhouse for an elderly lady. Looks great, but when he asks to be paid she says "I ain't payen". He asks why. "I ain't sayen". So he looks the work over, seems fine. SO he sticks his head through the hole to see the underside of the seat. All good. But when he pulls his head back out a beard hair sticks in a small crack in the edge. "Eurts duddent it" she says.

@tom7601 7 жыл бұрын

Is that like a "hurts, donut?"

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

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@matthewnelson713 4 жыл бұрын

Wish she came out more

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

August. CATS.

@dadfk52 7 жыл бұрын

Love this video.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

SOME FUN SHOOTING IT TOO.

@agwrr71productions79 3 жыл бұрын

The Eureka was built in 1875, ten years after the Civil War.

@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. But we were using it in a show from that era. Works. Ken Burns loves that era and history

@TheBestTrainsAreReal 6 жыл бұрын

I am only 11 but I love my train shows that are VHS. Too bad they got wiped out. Well progress I guess.

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

You can transfer them to dvd. Depends on how you do it it’s sort of expensive. And DVD is sort of a dead format too but it transfers to digital easily

@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 7 жыл бұрын

great video thank you very much you have some great adventures do you have any video of o Winston Link my wife bought me the photograph of the steam engine and jet plane at the drive-in theater very cool picture

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure what that is. What is that exactly?

@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 7 жыл бұрын

O. Winston Link is a railroad photographer from the 19 forties fifties and sixties if you saw the movie October Sky I believe he was the engineer in the old steam train

@captainzachsparrow6193 3 жыл бұрын

2:57 when the magic happens.

@MGarandRiflemen 7 жыл бұрын

7:05-7:43 Really looks like the Civil war. All you need are Civil War reenactors!!!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Those guys are GREAT. Their first film, Coney Island is amazing if you ever get a chance to see it. Two versions, one is like 58 minutes, for PBS. The first cut is almost 2 hours. Grandpa Munster is featured.

@MGarandRiflemen 7 жыл бұрын

Oh, Ok! Great to know!!! Thanks!!!

@jdubbjazzbass 7 жыл бұрын

OK I like watching your videos,I'm also a die-hard steam locomotive person,l love those things!! i'm a model railroader as well. my favorite type steam locomotive is the American 4-4-0. favorite railroad,the "VIRGINIA & TRUCKEE". I have met Mr.Markoff and was invited aboard the EUREKA..#4 what wonderful machine!! but,...that is NOT a(civil war) era locomotive.that loco was built in (1875),the civil war ended before that decade rolled around...

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

True, 10 years later. But of that same design.

@brucetharpe762 7 жыл бұрын

Thats sad that Eureaka #4 isnt running but atleast she gets to live with him at his backyard! XD

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

And it gets to run in Henderson, just not a a railroad just now.

@willnevrtel4157 Жыл бұрын

@@ToyManTelevision BOULDER CITY: S NV RR MUSEUM

@RailPreserver2K 3 жыл бұрын

I love y'alls music choice where can I find some of the music you'll use for some of your videos especially this one I just I just love like the violin music and whatnot it's just simply fantastic

@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын

Will is this sort of complicated.. I buy the tracks from a company called smart sound and they sell it to me recorded measure by measure instrument by instrument. That allows me to re-configure it anyway I want for the show. Mostly it’s generic music but a lot of it is based on other music that they have mimicked in record in the tracks. A lot of what you’re hearing it is based on the work of Aaron Copeland. While being completely different. And then as I say reconfigured and remixed

@RailPreserver2K 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToyManTelevision ah okay that makes sense, thanks

@ealanereynolds9332 4 жыл бұрын

I rode the Durango to Silverton about 45 years ago, i so enjoyed the trip. Is it even still running?

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

Yup! But dan only runs it at Christmas in bolder on a short track. And he’s building a car there. We have shows on that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsd-l8icqZOyaYU.html

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ps5gmdJeqa7QiKs.html

@brookingsbeachcomber 4 жыл бұрын

where'd those 25 years go?, just down the track my friend

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Time flys? Na. Takes the train.

@RailPreserver2K 3 жыл бұрын

Does Dan have anything in place to keep the engine in anything he's built to go along with it running after he's gone?

@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never asked but I am certain that it will be going to the Nevada state railroad museum in Carson City. They helped improve store they help keep it running and we have a magnificent collection. So that would be my guess

@dougalexander5871 4 жыл бұрын

Is Eureka sill in operation? I want to ride behind her, but I just don't when that might happen. I really want to experience a wood-burning locomotive.

@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын

Yup!!! And the combine car is finished. Eureka has not been out of Nevada in about 5 years. But heading to CATS in colorado in August if all goes well with the Mexican Beer virus. The Glenbrook will be there as well from Carson City.

@sjmadsen34 5 жыл бұрын

Would you be interested in riding on a train that travels through time?

@DillonTrinhProductions 7 жыл бұрын

wait were you part of the crew that filming the west?

@sammarachino5427 6 жыл бұрын

Hah, you hope i wasn't bored!.... Well, for 1 thing I didn't bring my brace and bits.😋... I live out east and don't travel much

@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын

Out is West. Back is East. Or so I'm told....... Still working on up and down.

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 7 жыл бұрын

+Toy Man Television → I was curious if you know *how much* he paid for that locomotive in that fire sale?

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Long story, but he got it for less than free. When he bought it they thought he wanted the gas powered amusement park ride, He never said what he paid. But they were not supposed to sell the ride, as it had a loan on it. So they had to buy it back. In the end he got the loco for free. Now what he spent fixing it.......

@josephfrye8750 5 жыл бұрын

What will future be like for Steam Engines?It makes me worried

@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын

On the main lines I doesn’t look good. UP is totally in but Amtrak is out as of now. Perhaps if they get a new head of Amtrak but for now most locomotives are stuck on the short lines.

@GreatBasinCarShops 7 жыл бұрын

Just for the record that is not a Civil War era caboose. The D&RGW's short cabooses were all built between 1904 and 1918; then again, the Eureka isn't civil war era either.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

True, just post war, The bobber cabooses were built at about the same time, many later were re trucked into short cabooses as was 0500. Two or three now restored back to bobber. the bobbers were just a bit shorter, and all were somewhat different from each other. 0500 was built in 1886. So as close as we could get for the filming Bobber would had been better.

@kupferbergbahn7952 7 жыл бұрын

will the Eureka run again when her restoration is done? because if she isn't going to then Dans passenger car is pointless

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

YES!! It's fine. Problem is FRA permits. Boiler inspections. Dan has been running at the Museum in Henderson, on the sly, as it's still a real railroad and under FRA rules. But he drives it in his driveway when the mood hits. Once the car is ready he will pass the hat and get back out to Chama or Durango. About 15K to move it. Nice when a film producer is willing to pay. In this case they only covered 50% and the rest of us kicked in. I sold footage to a bank for a TV spot, and they MORE than covered the remanding 50% And may need to re tube the boiler, even though it's FINE!! But rules say the boiler can't just be inspected, must be re tubed at times. Pointless BS.

@kupferbergbahn7952 5 жыл бұрын

What episode of this show "The West" was Eureka in?

@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын

Episode 5. The grandest Enterprise under the sun. About building the transcontinental railroad. Shooting at promontory is so difficult it’s really out of the question. The regulations for shooting in a national park or national monument are just crazy. Easier to shoot it Durango. Ken really didn’t have much to do with the project it was mostly Steve directing.

@gregsmith1719 7 жыл бұрын

Hi - I'm a subscriber, but I'm never notified...Why?

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

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@mrkoolaidman5975 7 жыл бұрын

Toy Man what did you use to do or do for a living?

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Same thing we do now. Screw around. But the pay checks were for making motion picture sound tracks. (screwing around) teaching at film schools, (teaching screwing around) Producing films and video, (screwing around) acting (really screwing around) and real estate rentals. (not screwing around).

@mrkoolaidman5975 7 жыл бұрын

Ohh ok that's really cool lol

@GreatSmokyMtnRRfan1988 7 жыл бұрын

Stop with the cars and stay with the railroads!!!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

We love trains.. Many more coming!!

@jmtrainz2582 6 жыл бұрын

#Howtoscrewaround #CHOCCHOO

@stikibunn 7 жыл бұрын

I don't know why but American 4-4-0s always seem gaudy to me. Beautiful but gaudy. Like they're painted by people with no taste. And then later locomotives are all 1 color, usually black. It's like the US never figured out how to paint steam locomotives nicely. Then you look at British trains and they're in very recognisable liveries, usually 2 or 3 colors and consistent among all the engines (sometimes with two styles for goods and passenger locos) and it just seems nicer.

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

I do love it though. Gaudy yet I get it. In it's day, everything was over blown. I agree the British paint is amazing. THe deep wine and green, with just the right off sets, a bit of gold, cream, black. Neve understood the bright red but I assume that was for safety.

@daviemaclean61 7 жыл бұрын

Gaudy yet magnificent. In the early 80s I was going to join a ship in East Germany via Berlin railway station where, amongst the run of the mill diesels was a large steam locomotive on some special duty bound for Moscow with the crossed flags, etc on the front - a breathtaking sight. It only seem gaudy to us now - it was black and white back in the day! ;-)

@johnkersey3460 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I can’t smile that much and talk for the next 10 min.

@nellyramos1727 3 жыл бұрын

Pee pee pee pee pee pee pee

@kerridillon3120 7 жыл бұрын

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

Fun train!!! Soon be back!!

@ToyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

And check out "The West" if you have never seen it. Great show!

@kerridillon3120 7 жыл бұрын

Toy Man Television YeeeeHaaa Toyman! I love all of Ken Burns films, especially The West! America in the 1800's - wagon trains, pioneer men & women are my favorite!! I have the diaries of the women on those wagon trains...unbelievable hardship & courage! My brother Mike has a 10 acre horse ranch in Williamstown NJ. When I visit. we go on a 8 mile trail ride at Valley Forge with 25 Williamstown riders. I am dressed in my 1880's riding outfit with split skirt, vest & hat. Just call me Kerri "Annie Oakley" Dillon! I remain firm on my offer to buy you & Karyn dinner when next you are in California. Email me: KerriTheRealtor@gmail.com Thanks for the wonderful videos! Hello to the Rat Fink too!