Seems like the foreign tourist threshhold calculation is using 200 as a multiplier in Rise and Fall based on the contents of the "expansion1_globalparameters.xml" file which sets TOURISM_TOURISM_TO_MOVE_CITIZEN to 200. This tracks with En Keksi Nimee's report (8 civs with a threshhold of 1600). The base game does, indeed, still set it to 150 in its globalparameters.xml file.

I've only gotten a culture victory once... when going for a science victory

Our world is a game of Civ6 which the Greeks won cultural victory in 250BC and the game continues to be played

WHOOSH.I’m going to stick to domination victory on settler difficulty.

lol I took more notes from this video than my entire college career!

TIP: just nuke which ever civ that has a lot of domestic tourists

Quality content. It's really disturbing that the game itself is pretty messy about explaining its own mechanics, from a franchise's newbie POV.

I find Culture Victory the least synergetic, and that really bugs me. Your video (amzing info, btw, thanks so much!) made that very clear for me. I mean, what does Foreign Tourism get you except for "Victory Points"? What I mean is: - with Domination, by forwarding that agenda, you get lands, cities, resources and a trained army - AND cripple your enemies (glad for the Loyalty introduction, Domination was overpowered); - with Science, you get better buildings, better yields from improvements and overall advantage towards enemies; - with Religion, you get extra bonuses which vary according to the beliefs - lots and lots of gold, culture, science, or combat bonuses near their cities, etc. In all cases, the "Victory Points" come with benefits that go well beyond just that victory type. Not so with Cultural Victory. Tourism gives you nothing. Boosting culture does nothing for Cultural Victory (unless you consider that Theater Squares give culture and Great People Points at the same time, but really, that's more incidental than anything else). I REALLY wish Foreign Tourism did something else for you - gold per turn, be more appreciated by the AI, imposing greater war weariness if they were fighting you, interfere somehow with loyalty… there could be policy cards to deal with that, or governor abilities, or leader abilities… it’s such a silly mechanic as it is now! Anyway, just wanted to rant a bit. Culture Victory could so much more fun than just getting to a good point and then start building stuff for the sake of victory points only. Again, excellent video!

Thank you so much! Great video, I finally have a clue what the culture victory is about 😁 thanks, man! That‘s awesome 😎🎉

Nice video man. Very educational. Got a sub. Watched 5 minutes but I threw it into watch later for when I'm settling down for the night! Look forward to digging more into your content. Hopefully you keep going with civ 6! :)

This for this video. It was extremely informative and will help me in my future games.

So Hitler missed out on culture victory and went for a Domination one instead. 🤔

I recently started to play civ 6, and today I achieve my first victory wich was a culture victory, thanks to you and this guide ^^

Amazing presentation -- exactly what I was looking for

Good stuff, I've been playing CV America on and off since launch and still learned some new things.

Nice, thank you for shining a light on all of this! It´s a shame that there are so many things happening "under the hood" that aren´t shown or explained anywhere in the game(at least not that I´ve found) cus I really like playing for the peaceful victories but it´s hard when you´ve got no idea how you´re actually influencing/progressing your victory. Now to write everything down in an excel-sheet or something XD

THANK YOU for this video!!!!!!!! Culture victory was the only thing I didn't understand. Of course, in my first game, I won with that but not knowing why. No I get the math behind this and understand what to do. THANKS A LOT!!

I started with the original version (DOS) of Civ and have progressed through each version with an appreciation for the changes that generally made the game better over the years. As I dig deeper into this version of the game, I'm finding it requires much more planning than Civ 5, which is still my favorite. I am in the mid to late game stage of a cultural victory target and I was wondering why I wasn't making ground. Now I know what to look at and tweak to finish this game up. Thanks for yet another informative video.

Great video, and just pointing this out, you left out the modifier players get for researching computers, which doubles all tourism output

I dont understand why they give you musicians so early in game if you cant use them. feels like a stupid bug

Thank you! This helped me so much in understanding what tourism is all about.

One thing that's different (I think, looking for clarification here) about tourism victories compared to all other victories is that only in tourism victories do you benefit from having more of your opponents not be eliminated. In domination games, you obviously need to take the capital of everyone else, and by taking the rest of their cities you benefit from 1.) having more cities and more resources and 2.) don't have to worry about someone you've already taken the capital of reclaiming it while the bulk of your forces are off conquering elsewhere (tip: don't take the last city- it causes huge penalties. Instead, plan to have his last city be one near a CS you are suzerein of, use ranged attacks to get the city down to 0 health and let a CS unit capture the last city.) In religious games, each civ you eliminate is one less civ you need to convert - I find the easiest way to win a religious game is to kill the other three civs that found a religion and spread to the remaining civs more-or-less unopposed. In science games, by eliminating more civs you get more resources to win (more cities for more campuses, etc.) In tourism games, however, you do get stronger by having more cities and the most efficient way to get more cities is to conquer them. BUT, each civ you eliminate is one less civ you're getting foreign tourists from. So let's say I'm making an average of 100 tourism per turn per civ, This means that I'll gain another foreign tourist from each civ about every 12 turns (this is assuming that the 100 tourism per turn is an average against the remaining civs and that figure is after all modifiers are applied.) If there's 5 other civs remaining, I'll get 5 foreign tourists about every 12 turns. If only one civ remains, I'll get 1 foreign tourist about every 12 turns... right?

You’re a great guy for these guides!

Just won my first deity culture victory vs 5 opponents who were also all culture civs.. Quite thrilling :) Didn't know any of these numbers and details, just went with the flow, building and grabbing everything and anything that mentioned tourism xD

Christ the redeemer removes the 50% debuff from enlightenment.

Thank you for making this!

Awesome video! I've always wondered how culture victories actually work.

Thank u for all these videos on how to play and understanding this civ. I love qll the civ games but 6 had me losing on settler lol thank u sir

Good and detailed video, thank you! That was very helpful, subbed ; )

I played civ rev on 360 as a kid, moved up to civ v and like everybody, enjoyed that for a decade, and then got to 6 after it had all of its dlc complete and felt so alienated, these vids help a ton. Also, they update the game often, changing the meta essentially, thats new to me

My culture victory strategy-> 1)Early game-Build as many cities as possible,focus on money and production early,but build if you can some holy sites too 2)Build wonders that help with city growth or culture(avoid those that give science or army boosts) 3)Focus on growing your cities and expanding as much as you can 4)Build theater squares 5)Trade money for amenities or great works 6)Build a mix of art museum and archeologists So on every1 do these things regularly but these are the important tips 7)Build intelligence agency on gov plaza and get spies early on 8)Use spies to steal great works from others 9)Build/buy archeologists and try to theme your museums 10)Build some MUST build Wonders..Cristo Redento and Effeil Tower are OP for culture..Hermitage and Bolshoi theater give you some slots for ealry musicians/artists.Especially Eiffel Tower gives +1 appeal to ALL tiles within your civilization,making it pretty easy to spam national parks 11)Remember i told you to build Holy sites early on?Thats because you are gonna need the faith to buy the naturalists.. If you take all these steps,you can win in about 1800-1900 A.D on king diff..I know king difficulty is easy for most people,but thats because every1 goes for domination victory.If you try to win peacefully(f.e by science in king),you can actually get rekt even if you are good player..

As a old Civ5 player who just bought civ 6, find this extreamly usefull

quire detailed and clear, thanks!

A few years late, but good info thanks :) Struggling with my Culture victory.

Thanks for the video. I just want to say I think you might be underestimating the value of relics though, particularly if you manage to get Mont St Michel and/or Christo Redentor. There is also a great person you can get that allows your apostles to choose any promotion they like (which can have the Mont St Michel effect if you choose Martyrdom). Letting Apostles die in exchange for even +4 tourism per can stack up quite nicely; and if you get the Christo Redentor, you are able to make that +8 per even with other civs researching Enlightenment. Thanks again though! Good info.

I'd love to have videos on each Civ/Leader and how to win with each type of victory. I have no idea how to optimize neither Culture nor Religious victories and would love a guide. Culture/Religion aren't as easy to steam roll out of control as Domination/Science against Deity AI.

After 300 hours I finally understand, thanks

Great video as usual; As for the threshold thing, I have tested it in a (huge map - 10 civs - emperor) and mine was 2000, don't know why but i think that the threshold rises each time you progress in eras.

I always get Reliquaries and try to get an early game relic either directly or by trading with someone (it costs a pretty penny and some luxuries, but the pain lasts only 30 turns, but the relic is there forever from classical era or so). Reliquaries + Voidsingers + Cristo Redentor = CULTURE VICTORY

Fantastic video. Finally a guide that I can follow.

watched the entirety of this video before realizing it was 30 minutes long damn civ is a really time consuming franchise

10:50, if you martyr your apostles you can definitely stack up Tourism quite nicely

Thank you for making this video!!! Won my first culture victory today because of this video! I would really love it if you could make an in-depth video on Religion and Religious victories because the whole religion mechanic makes no sense to me.

First time I ever tried a Culture/Tourism victory, I was Pericles, so I thought it was a perfect fit. I was on King difficulty, and I'm spamming out Wonders left and right, was getting just about every Great Works Person (Art, Writing, AND Music -- I think the most points per turn any AI was getting was +1, for any of them, so I was able to easily outgain them -- in fact, I couldn't create slots fast enough to hold everything), got to Flight as fast as I could, and was Suzerain of all but one City-State for most of the game. I was thinking I had it made, but I could just never close it out. It wasn't til later I realized Philip had been in the game and was sending like 5 Apostles per turn to pretty much every city on the map, which was converting everything away from my religion, even though I had tons of religious pressure to the other cities on my same continent. Then I realized what a dick Philip is and why it was so hard to win that game.

The makers of civilization should pay you for these top quality explanations.

Been playing this one match for 2 weeks. I started on my own continent, had no clue how to do faith, and I didn't know much about science, so I went for a culture victory. The problem? Well, one of the civs is China. They like building wonders. They don't like people with more wonders than them. I currently have over a dozen, china has one. I can't go 40 turns without being a war with them. Then there is Norway. He like big navys. I built a big navy. He still hates. I send a spy, and sure enough, his agenda is that he likes people at constant war. Early on, I always made peace with nations as soon as possible, as long it was free. He also hates the fact that I don't use the same gov as him. He is still monarchy, and likely becoming a communist. Greece (City state guy), dislikes me. I honestly don't know why. I don't steal suzerains from him. His hidden agenda is fun loving, which he likes me for. And yet he has still denounced me and even declared war once (along with Norway and china). The only one that likes me is Rome, and he has the wonder loving agenda. He only has one wonder. HE SHOULD BE HATING ME! I'm now on turn 410 and I am 4/5 the way of winning the cultural victory. How I'm still getting it, I have no clue.

Did a culture victory with the vikings yesterday. As soon as I was able to build archeological museums I put them in every city I had. Around 6 of them. Then I bought most of my archeologists, cause I didn't have time to wait 20+ turns for them to train. Managed to get all my museums themed by being a bit careful with the spots I picked up my artifacts, and then trading the once that didn't match with Victoria. After that I just kept rolling in cash from my spies and traders and waiting for my tourism to build up. Did buy a bunch of great writings just to try and fill up my amphitheaters. Fun times.

thanks so much man this rlly helps

If you can get Mont St. Michel, you can pile on the relics. I use it a lot when going cultural.

Very good job!

The governments really end up helping your tourism anyway, since you typically want more economic policy slots as the tourism related policies are mostly economic.

Finally! I was wondering since release how they determine the number of domestic\foreign tourists. There should have been a clear description in the Civilopedia. It's not critical to know (because most things that influence it are quite obvious and most thing that give tourism will also give culture) but it bugged me (though not enough to make the research myself)

Does the tourist threshold change as civs are eliminated? If I start the game with 12 civs the threshold appears to be 2400 (12 x 200), when I rid the world of three of the weakest civs militaristically, will the threshold recalculate to 1800 (9 x 200)?

That was really helpful, thank you! I'd been wondering how the calculations worked and you laid it out perfectly.

I won my first game of Civ 6 with a Culture Victory when i was going with a science victory. Had no idea how I managed to do it. I was playing on the easiest setting though.

Very good video, very deep into tourism. But when you said about the relics not being easy to get, I must say its quite the opposite if you boost your apostols with "creating a relic if defeated in combat" you have to use the spreads religion until 1 is left and then just wonder around looking for missionaries, gurus or other apostols to fight and at some point your apostol will get killed and provide you with relics

I bet he plays soprano sax while clicking the next turn button

Great video. One thing to clarify, could be wrong, but I think the flight bonus is only for tile improvements that bring culture (for example France's chateaus), not a luxury tile (like jade or coffee) that just has a base yield of culture. You gave Persia and Mapuche as the examples which were on point,nbut just wanted to clear up for viewers that base tials that yield culture don't count towards this, only improvements.

Leakery is a must get if you're playing Victoria and going for a cultural victory as she has 6 slots for artifacts compared to the standard 3. Also not sure if it changed since this video came out bit she increases yields of artifacts by 300%, not 200%

Culture victory is so much fun.

This is awesome!! Except one part in the middle I was super confused. You mentioned domestic tourism and civic boosts adding to your overall culture accumulation . I was lost when you said if the policy cost is 100 you get 43... how the heck did you get 43?? Was soooo lost I couldn’t believe you would fudge the math on that one so I figured I was missing something. I replayed it a million times before I realized you were saying “forty FREE.” Lol. Don’t mind me I’m just dumb

*NEED HELP* If a player is defeated, is the total # of civs still the original number, or minus 1? On a related note, if there is a very weak AI, i guess it's not worth to finish it off, because it still gives me tourists just like other stronger civs?

Great video. Thanks! For rock bands, is it best to target the highest DT civ with rock bands before anyone else?

from Expansion1_GlobalParameters.xml the FT threshold has been updated from 150 to 200: R&R

Great vid! Does sm know if it works the same in BBG multiplayer ?

I think there's also a police card which can double the amount of tourism from great works of art and artifacts. (It might have been removed, since I only own the vanilla version) Nonetheless, great video

I’m new to civ and just recently picked up civ 6. It’s so fun but I’ve yet to win. I get like 100 turns in and it never feels right so I restart. I’m gonna go a for a cultural victory next game. I just wanted to say thanks for all your great videos!

does having a different religion AND the enlightenment reduce an enemy's religious city tourism to 2, or to 0? also, reliquaries is amazing for boosting early tourism. especially if you find a lucky relic village, or play a civ like khmer or just get the mont st. michel. but aside from these though, it's not a great belief. it really depends on what happens in your early game. and basically, pick the governments with the fewest military slots to maximize your culture potential.

Could someone explain to me how foreign tourists are counted in Wonders, as I saw some panel and tourism accumulation in that circle? Does their threshold calculation work the same as with other civilizations, or does it depend on something else?

Thank you for the math. Do you have a video on how to pull the XML from the game?

Does the open borders modifier got to be from both u and them or is it just giving your borders or taking their open borders?

What are the government modifiers for the Gathering Storm governments?

Would it ever makes sense to drop down to a tier 2 govt that you have not had (avoiding anarchy) to reduce the modifier even though you are sacrificing policy cards?

Still, I can't really grasp the idea of towards and from in this, can someone elaborate?

Are there any major changes with Gathering Storm?

Do you get a bonus modifier if a civ makes a trade route to your civ? For example you have a trade route to France, you get +25%, but if France makes a trade route to your civ?

Dear Saxy Gamer, or anyone else who may know: I have a question as to how Flight provides Tourism from Tiles which yield Culture. Are Theater Squares, or other Districts/Improvements/Wonders taken into account? Or are only landscape tiles considered, e.g. a Floodplains tile that happens to be worked by a Citizen (assume that this tile provides Culture, for the sake of this example)? Thank you very much, gained my first Culture victory yesterday thanks to your tips. :)

any known effect from having an embassy either in your capital or theirs?

I felt 'free' to like.

What I do to get a lot of culture is build the mausoleum at halicarnassus and tons of industrial zones and workshops, then get Leonardo Da Vinci so you can activate his abilities twice

Please would you mind making a clip about science in depth? If possible.

It looks like for Rise and Fall the Government modifier is 0 if you have the same government. I switched to Facism late game because everyone with tier 3 Governments had that Government and my only Government modifiers were for people still at Tier 2.

I feel like you should gain citizens more quickly when you have high tourism, this helps give you a boost in other areas like production, kind of offsetting the dead weight of going for a culture victory that doesn’t inherently have much gain in other aspects of the game.

Did you ever ecplain luxury monopolies, and how they affect tourism? I keep seeing a message for +xx% for luxury monopolies on my culture games, because i really prioritize city placement for resources. How does that mechanic work, do you know?

So I'm loving gorgo, but it seems like her culture from combat victories dont accumulate over turns. I do notice she burns through the civic tree by doing combat. Is it intended to not boost culture per turn?

When I build St. Michelle, the other apostles go into hiding.😁

14:20 - Wait, I'm confused. Why does the *different governments* modifier apply to *same governments*? Is this a bug? Was it fixed? A different article says otherwise.

Im looking in to what factors are other civs doing to get high tourism nd culture and how to bring the number down

How do monopolies effect your tourism multiplier?

is it advisable to settle city on a high appeal tile ???

could you maybe update this? rockbands, space tourism, Hidden Tourism Threshold ectect?

any idea what the modifications are for 'future' governments?

Great video! About the 25% trade route bonus; do you get the bonus if you’ll make a diplomatic trade deal with a civ or do you have to do it through a trader? And if I’ll make a trade with another civ does that civ also get the bonus?

8:00 hmm I've always operated by the up yours open boarders policy and kept them closed unless I have an alliance with another civ. I always worry they're gonna trick me and invade my nether regions

What about Ski resorts? Since seasude resorts give tourism, so should them, shouldn't they?

Thanks I was able to surpass everybody in the end game somehow America natural park are OP

Does the # of civs count the civs that have been eliminated?

I figured the exact formula(s) to calculate "Tourism per turn" sent to the other Civs, no matter what modifiers are present (e.g. Trade route, enlightenment, different religion, different government, etc.). If anyone's still interested I'd be happy to share! It works 100% with pinpoint accuracy and will match the EXACT figures displayed!

But what exactly is the tourist number on top of the screen next to gold?!?!

just finished a culture win on emperor with Nubia last night, wish i knew this stuff! would shaved off those last 50. ended up with 800 tourism per turn but zero understanding of why