Concessions In Tavush

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In this episode of the Civilnet Podcast, host Patrick Elliott and Eric Hacopian unpack the border delimitation agreement with Azerbaijan starting in Tavush in Armenia’s northeast corner, followed by the landmark International Criminal Court case against Azerbaijan. They finish with the ongoing hunger strike by Ruben Vardanyan from his prison cell in Baku.
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@CivilNetTV 11 күн бұрын

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@steveobardian9980 11 күн бұрын

Pasha Yan has to go

@vahramkhatchikian4349 11 күн бұрын

Pashinyan has to go. We can no longer afford to have him as PM

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

And who is a competent leader to make a better job?

@Mr-ed5ep 11 күн бұрын

@owlmirror178 forget competence, who is not worse?

@Mr-ed5ep 11 күн бұрын

Wanting to be a politician is bad enough. In the 21st century? Armenian politics??? Not anyone whose read Armenian history books and a brain will want that.

@TheFinex82 11 күн бұрын

Yes, 100%! He's an incompetent, weak and dishonest politician that has betrayed all Armenian interests!

@karinegregorian937 11 күн бұрын

Competent leader is Bever! Intelligent, intellectual, patriotic professionals!

@nelliakara7403 11 күн бұрын

Thank you ! It is so obvious even for ordinary people to see common sense how to handle situation . How the head of the country taking that position ??? It is a red flag!

@TheFinex82 11 күн бұрын

Pashinyan simply doesn't care about protecting the country's borders or its people! At this rate, we will lose all our lands to genocidal regime in baku!

@vickikirakosian 11 күн бұрын

Nikol HAS TO GO! HE SOLD HIS COUNTRY!

@user-ud1mg8hc9f 11 күн бұрын

Никола надо арестовать за государственную измену!!!

@alexkabanian4358 10 күн бұрын

get his name right, his name is NikolOglu

@asala2116 11 күн бұрын

Leaving the POWs out of the peace process is a joke. This guy is desperate for a win and he will sell his land, own people, his wife and children for that.. I'm just wondering why no one has given him the Nemesis treatment. Too many Tavajans in Armenia .

@m_r_menian 11 күн бұрын

1st, there is no guarantee of "no war" if he gives away this land. 2nd, there is no certainty that the land in question belongs to azer. Pashick shouldn't be giving away land without anything in return especially when the azers are sitting on good expanse of Armenian land.

@haigsalibian8132 11 күн бұрын

a frank assessment of our state. nothing is being done the right way. the bleeding continues

@lucyjazznyc 10 күн бұрын

This was brutal and honest

@SFSarkis 11 күн бұрын

Eric I’m surprised you didn’t you connect the dots in your commentary? Why didn’t the Armenian “State” - at the very least- try to get POWs out from the demarkation concession they appear to be making with Baku? This seems like an incredibly obvious opportunity that has not been addressed by the media.

@dennydritic2628 11 күн бұрын

Eric has talked about this previously. In this interview seems they were just trying to stay on one topic, ie. regarding demarcation of giving land to get back some land (unfortunately not happening either, we are only giving, but what can we do, they have Israel on their side).

@shaqueha.5017 10 күн бұрын

Why did he run for election, for the second time, after losing " the war"? This is a question that doesn't make sense to me. Where is his moral responsibility. We know why he won, and how he played "նախկիները", but thats not the point.

@imkarciqov 11 күн бұрын

Stop Pashinyeva

@mardbalasy6671 8 күн бұрын

Check your balls. You may save them in Russia.

@alexkabanian4358 10 күн бұрын

NikolOglu or Pashinyaneva needs to go

@filayhigh 9 күн бұрын

Great interview Eric! I think lots of us admire Ruben Vardanyan working for Artsakh. He could have been doing something for himself instead of sacrificing his freedom. But we also want to know if had any other motive like using Artsakh as stepping stone for his political ambitions.

@tikranshahbikian2340 10 күн бұрын

Thank you thank yuo so much of you how you accurately describe the situation

@avetikharutyunyants9868 11 күн бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍 Всё так, действительно так! Нас заставляют делать шаги. Им всем по... за чей счёт, им главное "прогресс".

@user-wc4gt1fp3k 11 күн бұрын

Объявить вотум недоверия Премьеру Пашиняну, его роль в защите интересов 🇦🇲 провальная.

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

Voting for Russia and their Armenian puppy dogs is a much more failure

@andysk5438 Күн бұрын

Borat, iz zat you?

@andrehakoopian 11 күн бұрын

Don’t you think that pashinyan is a Russian-KGB source and does what they ask

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

You don't think that Pashinyan is much under Azeri, Turkish, Russian pressure??? Sounds childish to blame him as a Russian or Turkish or another agent.

@simerroo 11 күн бұрын

Great work!

@canby4us829 10 күн бұрын

These guys speak as if Ruben was a hero. Weel perhaps he's their hero. It's well known that Ruben is an infamous figure internationally considered a crook man.

@imkarciqov 11 күн бұрын

Stop censoring comments

@dya-dya-1 11 күн бұрын

👍👍👍🇦🇲🙏

@imkarciqov 11 күн бұрын

Paşinoğlu acilen durdurulmalı

@ibadetismayilov3511 9 күн бұрын

Türk müsün?

@imkarciqov 9 күн бұрын

@@ibadetismayilov3511 Biraz düşün Türk olsaydım Paşinoğlu'ndan niye şikâyetçi olurdum?

@user-mm4fn9rn7b 11 күн бұрын

И Запад и Россия поддерживают границы начерченные большевиками !

@irenasamvelova3267 10 күн бұрын

It seems like the war non stop-is what a new country Azeri stand for. But Armenians living here by centuries. Azeri now destroying all Armenian heritage.

@m_r_menian 11 күн бұрын

Please interview Arthur Khachigian.

@gilbertovanessian6998 11 күн бұрын

Let's be real Eric, I know you have always thought of Pashinian as a great, honest, democratic president, but you have failed to recognize his main weaknesses. Let's talk about his poor leadership in handling foreign affairs and recognizing his wisdom and knowledge and experience in diplomatic matters.

@m_r_menian 11 күн бұрын

He is not even democratic. He's been jailing his own citizens who speak or act against him.

@dennydritic2628 11 күн бұрын

In other words , he's not perfect. Do you know anyone that is?

@silvamnatsakanyan3774 11 күн бұрын

Pashinian is the best so far, you should compare apple to apple , corrupt Armenian old government is gone . Any government official have advisories , they are not diplomats or politicians like Trump , he was a president but he was a businessmen , not politician . People talking about heroism right here , they don’t even live in Armenia . It’s easy to talk but very hard to act .If tomorrow Pashinian declare war , are those big mouths will take a weapon and go the war . I am sure all will run away. We need peace not war , some times you should give in order to receive . We should not be driven by emotions , we should use brain

@silvamnatsakanyan3774 11 күн бұрын

But who set that Pashinian is perfect . We need to compare apple to apple , can you compare Pashinian with corrupt previous government? It’s 360 degree difference. We should be happy what we have sins we seen terrible one . Today Armenia is very advance democratic country because of Pashinian .

@gilbertovanessian6998 10 күн бұрын

@@silvamnatsakanyan3774 we should be forward looking not backward. Comparing Pashinians catastrophic decisions with his former predecessors is not the way to justify his irreversible mistakes. He shall be judged without bias if we want the best for our country.

@alex_2020 11 күн бұрын

The rate at which Armenians are loosing territory, my medical school YSMU in Yerevan, would soon be in Azeri Territory! 😢

@m_r_menian 11 күн бұрын

😢 I am very worried about that. Azer needs to be pushed back. I don't see that happening anytime soon by this administration. 😔😔😔😔😔

@georgebeglaryan1636 11 күн бұрын

We need time

@chino3800 11 күн бұрын

@@georgebeglaryan1636 1000 лет хватит?😂😂😂

@rinho1790 11 күн бұрын

One of the rare interviews where i disagree with almost all of what Eric said. Would have been nice to challenge his positions more. But anyway, thanks for the interview!

@DeepLineDesign 11 күн бұрын

So if Pashinyan does not give the land back, and a full scale war breaks out, wouldn't that feed right into Aliev's playBook? Are we ready to go into a full scale war? Furthermore, Eric, would you send your sons to fight on the border given the current military balance?

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

Good questions.

@ArtinSeropian 11 күн бұрын

No war will come is a bluff , fearmongering only. This all is bc of our incompetent leaders we have now

@m_r_menian 11 күн бұрын

There is no guarantee there won't be war if he gives land away. On the contrary. The more he caves in to this arrogant rhino bully, the more the bully will want.

@VrejHAI 11 күн бұрын

If Armenians didn't give their sons to fight the Turks, despite the military balance, there wouldn't be an Armenian state today. You cant achieve anything great without a great sacrifice. Same with the first Artsakh war.

@davitzargarian3110 11 күн бұрын

Patrick Elliott! These interviews are fast becoming charades because you keep launching puff questions in Eric's direction instead of challenging his line of reasoning with meaningful retorts. He says Armenian kids will be playing right near the border and somehow Blinken isn't worried about it. What has this got to do with the question? Would Eric's position on this issue be different if Pashinyan got 20 villages in return for the 2.5 he gave? Kids would still play near the border if there will continue to be villages at the border. So regardless of what you get in exchange, the problem of security persists if we'll have villages right at the border. We get it, you would negotiate differently than the current gov does. Maybe you would bluff in the game of chicken, maybe you wouldn't blink like Pashinyan did. We won't know I'd that would have been better or worse, and from whose perspective, those whose sons are in the army now or those who sit far away and pontificate. The fact remains: the duly elected gov is conducting the negotiations in the way it sees fit. By all means, criticize the approach but stay logical, don't tell me that the main issue is that Armenian kids will play near the border.

@lordlex6315 11 күн бұрын

Says a defeatist

@user-fb8xj1fn6l 11 күн бұрын

Землю надо вернуть пр...о😂

@FF-WW 11 күн бұрын

Ruben is also ok Ukraine sanctions list for supporting separatism in LNR/DNR

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

Evidence???

@lordlex6315 11 күн бұрын

Who cares! Your ukraine is allies with dictatorial azerb!cjan and has been selling them weapons for decades.

@FF-WW 10 күн бұрын

@@owlmirror178 he’s on Ukraine sanctions list That’s enough for me … if you care for your research I’m not gonna write an essay here

@aratapik8766 11 күн бұрын

Isn’t there a reason to be intimidated though? Is it just paranoia on the part of one man?

@magsud9763 11 күн бұрын

Spot on. Once bitten, twice shy. And Pashik is bitten enough to know what happens if he doesn’t obey the Ali Bash Komandan. He knows the result on Armenia and on him personally. Its very different from demagogues like Eric, who always knows “the right way” but will never be accountable for his poor opinion.

@owlmirror178 11 күн бұрын

@@magsud9763and you know it better, as we can read😂

@georgebeglaryan1636 11 күн бұрын

@@owlmirror178did you get here by accident? Go give you advice in Baku

@lordlex6315 11 күн бұрын

We need to replace pashinyan but with a democratic leader - not with one of serjik’s or kocharyan’s corrupt minions

@TreasureX7 11 күн бұрын

Любыми путями избавиться. Времени больше нет. Найти язык с Кремлём, лучше худой мир, чем война.

@evagalstian244 11 күн бұрын

OMG this dude that does the interview needs serious schooling. The way he talks, the tone of the voice, the speed, the content…. I want to know which university produces these type of “professional journalists”. With all respect, dear kido you need to brush up on your skills. This is embarrassing

@dennydritic2628 11 күн бұрын

He's actually an excellent journalist and very refreshing the way he gets to direct questions in a short amount of time. You should watch some of his other interviews, especially ones where he interviews military analysts, he asks very relevant questions and procures very good insights.

@silvamnatsakanyan3774 11 күн бұрын

It’s very easy to talk , especially when you don’t live in Armenia. If tomorrow Pashinian declares war , will you and people like you take the weapon and go the war ? Will you ? I am confident everyone will tan away . Thats the truth , and Pashinian knows that too . Than this same people will blame Pashinian for starting war and loosing thousands of life’s instead of giving a very small pice of land . Pashinian dose what ever he thinks it’s right to be done and that’s it