CL500 ABC Repairs - how much did it cost? | Episode 51

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MGUY Australia

6 жыл бұрын

How expensive is it to maintain an ABC suspension?
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Not cheap, but not terrible, and some preventative maintenance will go a long way to avoid large bills. Prices are at 5:11 in the video.
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@davidwright7923
@davidwright7923 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t he have done this in his drive and saved us all being bored for the first half?
@evelynmahoney3569
@evelynmahoney3569 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@InTheNow2020
@InTheNow2020 3 жыл бұрын
CL is a special car. Good content and helpful in the buying process.
@a420naaron2
@a420naaron2 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought an ‘01 CL500 with 112k miles & it’s immaculate inside. Everything works as far as the suspension & was just flushed & cycled with new filter before I got it & even came with an extra filter for future service. I paid $5,000 for the car
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it in good health!
@musicllife
@musicllife 5 жыл бұрын
I just paid $5000 for a 03 s55 AMG getting ready for the head aches!
@CopperPopperComputers
@CopperPopperComputers 5 жыл бұрын
LOL@@musicllife
@musicllife
@musicllife 5 жыл бұрын
@@CopperPopperComputers what's fucking comical?
@musicllife
@musicllife 4 жыл бұрын
@Sea Edu just cause you figure I'm a girl people laugh, I payed $3000 with the transmission out and payed a $1900 total for the repair so I practically payed $5000 for a 03 kompressor s55 amg
@Pennychaser1
@Pennychaser1 3 жыл бұрын
Just got 03 CL55. One strut was replaced and fluid flusbed recently. Only way I will go with struts is when sway bar is available for CL. Im comfortable working on my cars so repair costs wont be so bad
@samuelwestknee7134
@samuelwestknee7134 5 жыл бұрын
when you have to take a drive to special place only to reveal the costs - you know damn right cost will be HIGH :D
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
Haha true!
@azmike3572
@azmike3572 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, by Australian law, KZfaqrs can only reveal repair costs at certain places.
@CopperPopperComputers
@CopperPopperComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos mate.. Keep it going aye
@Sam_AMG
@Sam_AMG 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Also the car looks in fantastic condition. I bought a facelift cl500 3 months ago and I've restored the car to nearly as new condition. It had one owner and 60k on the clock but it needed a full respray and other work. Everything underneath had been cleaned and painted so it looks like new in, out and underneath but i had no idea it also had a problem with the abc system as it had a warning light for one of the seats saying seat not locked and I only found out about the abc problem yesterday after fixing the seat (left the seat as a last job) and to say I'm upset would be in understatement. I've plugged it in and it says unknown fault ( c1525 c1526) and it won't let me clear the fault. Inside it says active body control ABC visit workshop. The fluid level was a bit low and I've topped it up and drove the car for about 3 miles but the light is still on. It goes up and down no problem and even if it's parked for 1 week it doesn't go down. Sorry for the long post in your video, I wish I never bought the car now
@xxx1xxx275
@xxx1xxx275 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Just replace your abc system with the Strutmaster kit. It's 999$ and you will never have a problem with your abc system again
@evelynmahoney3569
@evelynmahoney3569 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of Strutmaster, Coilovers, etc. just buy a Toyota. Hello? Unless you just did this, Flush out the old fluid with new fluid (8 - 10 quarts) and install new filter Right Now. I stayed on top of the fluid level for months (slow leak, front left). Couldn't understand why the light kept coming back on when the fluid was full. Eventually became the DANGER, DO NOT DRIVE, CAR TOO LOW msg. in red. Not too much later and it wouldn't raise up anymore when started, despite full fluid level. Sunk to the ground & stayed there. I couldn't fit a broom handle between the driveway & the bottom of the car. $3,600.00 estimate for local dealership to do a flush, filter & New Pump. Did the flush & filter at home (per a YT video) and Thank God, the pump works great now. Dirty hyd. fluid in ABC is SERIOUS, little did I know. It is NOT like dirty engine oil that you can get away with almost indefinitely. I hope your luck is as good or better.
@MichaelJwolf1984
@MichaelJwolf1984 6 ай бұрын
The cost for the ABC isn’t nearly as costly as it used to be. 1st you can buy new shocks thru arnott for 450 each usually cost 1500 each. Tandem pump for 450 used to be 900-1200 usual service is 3k so labor will be the same. 6k you can have a brand new abc system.
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 5 жыл бұрын
He is wearing the Blues Clues shirt
@jgonzalesm6
@jgonzalesm6 5 жыл бұрын
About to purchase a 2009 SL550 with 13k miles on it. Gonna take a turkey baster to check the hydraulic fluid color. If I buy, gonna purchase an Autel Maxisys Pro for diagnostics and Rodeo test. The hydraulic fluid should be done at least every 40k miles. You can buy a 20ltr of Pentosin CHF11-S for $260 and half it and do it yourself. Yes, the blocks and accumulators are the next phase of repairs should the previous owner NOT change out the hydraulic fluid with flush and filter.
@Mad109R
@Mad109R 4 жыл бұрын
Would sooner buy a coilover conversion & be done with it. Nice car tho, I'm running a CLK at the moment.
@MichaelJwolf1984
@MichaelJwolf1984 6 ай бұрын
No you wouldn’t. Prices for shocks and tandem pump have dropped significantly. The ride is way better with the ABC suspension. Coils ruin the ride and actually cost close to the same at this point due to prices dropping so drastically. New ABC set up for 6k will last you another 80k miles.
@salvadorgarcia6705
@salvadorgarcia6705 25 күн бұрын
I have one 2004 MB CL500 and the power steering pump is lick and my question is can I drive my like that or that can make worse to the pump…
@nunocosta637
@nunocosta637 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update really helpful...I m thinking in by one of those beautiful coups ...just not make my decision between the class 500 or the cl 55 AMG ...open for opinions ... thanks
@paulmanser6887
@paulmanser6887 5 жыл бұрын
Car looks great I have a 2009 model love the car mine is a cl 500 it is badge 63 amg with body kit amg wheels 24000 miles like new only problem is costly road tax insurance
@faisalbawazir
@faisalbawazir 2 жыл бұрын
55AMG good....
@eyalbarmitzvah
@eyalbarmitzvah 10 ай бұрын
He said several years of trouble free abc . That was so funny😂😂. Killing me
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 5 ай бұрын
If you keep the fluid & filter fresh, refresh the seals in the valve blocks, keep an eye on the lines/make sure nothing is leaking, & replace shocks when needed, you'll stay ahead. If you don't know how to wrench or don't have enough money to properly service these cars, or don't know how maintenance works, then yes ABC will probably ruin you. If you don't at least educate yourself on the systems, then Mercedes shouldn't be in your vocabulary.
@Compounding_King
@Compounding_King 3 жыл бұрын
What is that wheel ? A factory CL wheel or an AMG or aftermarket? I love it and want to put that wheel on my new 2 me ‘02 CL 55 AmG
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 3 жыл бұрын
I found them on eBay! They were AMG but not from a CL...
@dappa311
@dappa311 5 жыл бұрын
Car still is gorgeous!
@VoloKinProject
@VoloKinProject 5 жыл бұрын
Man, that was my dream car for so many years and now when I can finally afford one I am not very happy about the expensive ABC problems which seem to be unavoidable sooner or later.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you bro!
@GeorgeDaymondLush
@GeorgeDaymondLush 5 жыл бұрын
Buy one and read my post. There aren't many better.
@MrAllie-bf6zt
@MrAllie-bf6zt 3 жыл бұрын
Just replace the abc shocks with regular coilovers. Problem solved.
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeDaymondLush Can someonehelp me with my cl500 its stuck in limp mode the code reads (The signal of the transmission output speed sensor is implausible compared to that of the wheel rpm)
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@MGUYTV Can someonehelp me with my cl500 its stuck in limp mode the code reads (The signal of the transmission output speed sensor is implausible compared to that of the wheel rpm)
@interstateboss5921
@interstateboss5921 3 жыл бұрын
whats that intro music?????
@GeorgeDaymondLush
@GeorgeDaymondLush 5 жыл бұрын
I saw this by chance having, last year, had a similar issue. No warning lights no major issues - just a slight noise. Local garage didn't know but called on Merc main agents who diagnosed issues with the ABC pump. You know it is going to be the pump when they say "we've never known one go much under 150,000 miles. Yeah - right. It was 2 years old when I purchased it in 2012 and is the first of the Blue Efficiency/High Cost models. New price was a shade over £100,000. 2nd hand and with 14k on the clock it was £45k. As Maserati Guy says it's a nice car. I'd go further. I had been looking at Bentleys and the CL 500 (but not the CL 63) is a way nicer car to drive. A friend I see every Christmas when I go on holiday and is pretty well heeled thinks much the same. Out of the 6 Bentleys and 2 MB CL 500s and CL55 he has owned the Mercedes leads the pack. Apart from checking fluid etc one of the pieces of advice I had was not to let it stand for months without driving it, so I don't. Just as a bit of a funny story, I bought this car from Mercedes Guildford. I knew how much it should be and they had reduced it by £5k. I had a picture of the guy I had been talking to (as about 55-60 and died in the wool slightly better than most other car salesmen). When I met him he turned out to be 23, just having finished a degree in business studies and his first day in used car sales. He was utterly charming and engaging. I asked him to price my car, mentally agreed the price and asked him how much deposit he wanted. He practically fell over the desk. "You going to buy it?" Yes. "What this one?" Yep. "What - now?" The CL was the first car more or less he had sold. He looked after me until he discovered how nice Sydney was on a holiday and a city from which he's never returned. I no longer go back to MB Guildford. I think they've lost the plot and sadly they've lost him. It's people who make a business. People buy cars in the UK but after Brexit they may have to rely on people again.
@nicocabrera7675
@nicocabrera7675 2 жыл бұрын
Has the suspension held up since?
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that fixed the issue.
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 2 жыл бұрын
Can someonehelp me with my cl500 its stuck in limp mode the code reads (The signal of the transmission output speed sensor is implausible compared to that of the wheel rpm)
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the transmission output speed sensor is bad, it's giving a reading which doesn't match what the wheel sensors are measuring, and the ECU/TCU is therefore putting the car in limp mode to avoid any possible damage. Hopefully it can be replaced without too much hassle.
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@MGUYTV I think someone responded and said it the speed sensor inside the conductor plate valve body
@evelynmahoney3569
@evelynmahoney3569 2 жыл бұрын
Try this: 1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. 2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds. 3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal. 4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset. Found it off MBworld.
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@evelynmahoney3569 tried it before still limp mode
@evelynmahoney3569
@evelynmahoney3569 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj4395 I'm sorry! Idk if that reset has more to do with acceleration than transmission, or if it's all about the same thing. It's an automatic transmission in an engine that won't rev high enough to cause the gear to shift when you accelerate. So I think it's both / same thing. I have a new accelerator pedal but never put it on because it doesn't do it very frequently. The guy I bought it from got the new pedal for me, said it would fix the limp. On flat ground, I don't think mine would accelerate to more than ~30 mph, and would slow to a crawl, maybe 5 mph, trying to make it to the top of the overpass. Just barely made it. Are those your symptoms too?
@MichaelBrown-vj8ei
@MichaelBrown-vj8ei 4 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a 05 cl500 for 1200 with 215 thousand miles runs great but radio comes on then goes out what could that be and also when I turn heat on there is no air coming out vents but sometimes it does I'm going to fix up and enjoy my new toy
@elijahlane411
@elijahlane411 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone wanting to do this, just convert to coilovers for $1500 USD (including power steering pump as well) you’ll never face those issues ever again and you can sell your struts pump valve blocks accumulators and lines on ebay and make most of your money back
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 3 жыл бұрын
True, but the ride will be inferior to the ABC
@elijahlane411
@elijahlane411 3 жыл бұрын
@@MGUYTV the difference is very minor
@user-uf9jz7xw4h
@user-uf9jz7xw4h 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the coilovers only replace the airmatic (air) and not abc (fluid) systems?
@Biefstukje
@Biefstukje 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahlane411 different will be huge!
@harsimransingh7036
@harsimransingh7036 Жыл бұрын
Hey what do u mean by including power steering pump as well? Does it come in the kit? The thing is i m buying a cl500 which has valve problems or basically abc is not working so confused about whether i should buy and get someone to covert it to coilovers or should i just drop the plan? I love these cars but have minimal knowledge and dont wanna buy a money pit. Please guide me if u have any knowledge into this.
@ScottMcEwen1
@ScottMcEwen1 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 2000 CL500 and the suspension was giving me static and left me on the side of the road one night so I replaced the whole ABC system with regular struts and springs. Ride quality wasn’t as nice as the stock ABC system but when those cars get to the point where you can buy one for less than $10,000 it doesn’t make sense to pay that much to just fix the suspension. I never ever had to worry about the system failing on long trips again. I used Strutmasters but their service dept could use a tune-up. Now you can get an adjustable-height set. Awesome car, overall.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a sensible option - but when the ABC is working it is a great ride!
@coreyduo9961
@coreyduo9961 5 жыл бұрын
Scott McEwen when replacing the suspension system, does the car sit up high off the ground?
@ScottMcEwen1
@ScottMcEwen1 5 жыл бұрын
Corey Duo The front end sat a bit higher than I would have wanted but the rear was fine. Saying that, I believe that a slightly lowered suspension looks nicer in most cars. There is a conventional strut system for the CL that has a adjustable ride height but it’s not the Strutmasters kit. I believe it was a Chinese made kit but I’d be willing to bet that the Strutmasters kit is Chinese, as well. I spoke to Strutmasters just after I installed their kit and asked when an adjustable kit would be available. They said, at that time, that they’re working on it. That was 2014..so I doubt they had any intention of following through with a height-adjustable kit. I’m sure they would rather spend their time on higher demand applications.
@moviechannel7515
@moviechannel7515 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottMcEwen1 I heard when you instal coilovers you have to put sway bars what is that?
@smooth8397
@smooth8397 3 жыл бұрын
movie channel Some owners say that’s true but I drove that car quite aggressively and found that the car stays very flat during cornering without sway bars. It’s been said that for anything short of race-tracking that car you won’t need sway bars. For an explanation of sway bars it’s bettter to google it ...you’d find a better explanation online than I could give you. Cheers
@evelynmahoney3569
@evelynmahoney3569 2 жыл бұрын
After all the expense, time & trouble, and 2 videos . . . He doesn't have a clue what the recommended service interval is. I'm flabbergasted! Nice guy, well intended, but poster child for the addage, "DON'T LOSE THE LESSON!" FYI 60k, 40k & 20k miles are recommendations I've heard on various YT videos. Lastly, he's absolutely right about not ignoring warnings & maintaining the proper fluid level. The other absolute is keep that fluid & filter fresh & clean. Its also the first thing to do at any sign of ABC trouble or warning: Flush w/new fluid & put in a new filter. Amazingly, a lot of problems are resolved by this alone, not to mention preventing further issues, worse problems & and an even more costly repair expense. Ask me how I know? You guessed it, I learned it the hard way.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and for watching
@ohoboh0
@ohoboh0 5 жыл бұрын
i have the same CL500 and in my country the valve recondition per side costs 520 BGN (419.15 AUD). 10 liters of fluid costs around 300 BGN (241.81 AUD)
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
That's pretty good, man!
@user-bd8gj8bp2f
@user-bd8gj8bp2f 3 жыл бұрын
You didnt get to the real stuff like replacing all 4 struts and the pump then you will be well and truly fkked
@initialb5009
@initialb5009 5 жыл бұрын
coilovers are about $1200 am
@martynm.449
@martynm.449 2 ай бұрын
I believe that model of CL was designed by an Australian.
@danielwhite1775
@danielwhite1775 9 ай бұрын
Hey I need help with my cl500 guys abc
@mitreswell
@mitreswell 2 жыл бұрын
What about replacing those hydraulic hoses that burst? Also, if the fluid gets low there must be a leak, so it's pointless just topping it up without further investigation. Sounds like a lot of money was spent for not a lot of return. If you're not going to do a lot of this work yourself, ie be an enthusiast, prepare to be skinned alive by whoever you pay to do it. I think they are a magnificent vehicle and have seen one I'd like to buy, but I would be doing everything done in this video myself, as that's part of the satisfaction of owning one and knowing exactly what state it's in.
@jesus_wasgay
@jesus_wasgay 5 жыл бұрын
2 minutes out of 10 of useful info
@ldservicesltd595
@ldservicesltd595 3 жыл бұрын
Skip the first five minutes of waffle and get to the useful information.
@mosakookasom9941
@mosakookasom9941 4 жыл бұрын
I m already convert cl to meserati concept car . Back fully convert costume like Maserati concept car. Front modified more like Lamborghini . My new baby looking more attractive now. Looking more sport Looking more future sport car More less baget . Drive like million dollars car😁😁😁😁
@Stress7820
@Stress7820 2 жыл бұрын
500 mins in to see if I want to own this car here's a hint guys skip to 4:55 mark thank me later
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks for watching!
@trevorthompson6845
@trevorthompson6845 4 жыл бұрын
Just get on with it,don’t want to see all the high spots of the city,there are KZfaq videos for that
@MrT-nh6di
@MrT-nh6di 4 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the abc suspension, get coilover suspension, will be way more reliable.
@ShawnPrince
@ShawnPrince 5 жыл бұрын
Damn son, get to the point next time
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't been called "son" for a long time! Thank you!
@ShawnPrince
@ShawnPrince 5 жыл бұрын
Maserati Guy in America its like saying bro, or buddy.
@adam55719
@adam55719 3 жыл бұрын
What a weird exchange and what’s even more weird is that I’m writing This 2 years later
@danielwhite1775
@danielwhite1775 9 ай бұрын
Hey I need help with my cl500 guys abc
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