Clamshell G3 iBook Upgrades!

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Mr Lurch's Things

Mr Lurch's Things

Жыл бұрын

I love the clamshell iBook for all the wrong reasons.
So lets give this one a little bump with some extra ram and an SSD hard drive!
The HDD adaptor thingy: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
OS 9.2.2 download: macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-...
iFixIt guide: www.ifixit.com/Guide/iBook+G3...
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@snarfusmaximus
@snarfusmaximus Жыл бұрын
"Dumb as dog shit" - one of my favourite phrases.
@QUANTUMJOKER
@QUANTUMJOKER 3 ай бұрын
Very nicely done. I really enjoy your relaxed, good-humoured and methodical style of presentation. I recently acquired a 1999 clamshell iBook SE and upgraded it pretty thoroughly. The day I got the iBook, I installed a 64 GB Compact Flash card for an SSD (you can see the CF adapter's red LED blink through the translucent keyboard, which is awesome). About a week later, I replaced the stock CD-ROM drive with a DVD-ROM drive. Then, I transferred some better-condition donor parts from a dead blueberry iBook, including the top case and trackpad, the screen bezel, the Apple logo on the lid and the surprisingly good-quality battery (five of the eight cells still hold charge well). And over the last couple of days, I fixed some structural/case issues from my SSD install - every screw bar one is back in, and I aligned the screen assembly properly with those tabs at the back - and I performed the glowing Apple logo and transparent bezel mods. I'm so happy with how my iBook turned out. I'm proud of myself not only for these upgrades, but for returning to fix prior mistakes.
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
Not your first rodeo. Nice hat tip to your Patreon supporters. Thank you for going the extra mile on getting this video out for everyone. It's really appreciated.
@FrenchSquareDancer
@FrenchSquareDancer 13 күн бұрын
I'm extremely happy you posted this video. My old blue clamshell just recently had the hard drive fail on me. I don't often use it anymore but I took it out to check old software and the disk was shot. It is difficult and expensive to find a compatible drive these days. I was thinking of replacing with an SSD, but wasn't sure of compatible adapters. Just ordered one using your references. Hoping I can bring this kid back to life, even quicker than he was before.
@KAPTKipper
@KAPTKipper Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'd like to kick the designers at Apple for taking the approach that requires so much work for a simple upgrade. Actually it's not sometimes, it's all the time.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Жыл бұрын
Bought both the Graphite and Indigo ones when they came out in 2000. Great machines for their time.
@johnw7602
@johnw7602 7 ай бұрын
I was fortunate enough to nab a top spec lime green model when they were released and I found a nifty padded nylon carry bag, specifically designed for it with the same color scheme. It even has a little window to show off the green apple logo on the cover. Love that thing! Unfortunately, I don't have it with me atm, next time I fly home, I'll have to grab it. I'd like to do the ssd upgrade, looks fun!
@eveypea
@eveypea Жыл бұрын
Good ol' Oak Classic Chocolate milk. Gotta love seeing that in a video 🤤
@10MARC
@10MARC Жыл бұрын
Informative as always! It's surprising how little improvement there is adding an SSD to one of these old machines.
@lbanting
@lbanting 11 ай бұрын
It's so absurd looking! that's exactly why I liked it too!
@RudysRetroIntel
@RudysRetroIntel Жыл бұрын
Great tear down and upgrade! Thanks for sharing
@hiroprotagonist1587
@hiroprotagonist1587 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar HDD capacity problem with an old ThinkPad years ago. I got round it by partitioning the drive into manageable sized partitions beforehand and this worked for me however as it was not a Mac YMMV.
@GarthBeagle
@GarthBeagle Жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy! 😁 Nice job!
@CompComp
@CompComp Жыл бұрын
I always wanted one of these. I picked up an (supposedly) untested one off eBay for "cheap" a year or so ago. But I've been to busy and afraid to mess around with it yet. Right now it's kind of a schrodingers iBook. It's both functional and non-functional until I test it.
@silvestronsbitsandbytes
@silvestronsbitsandbytes Жыл бұрын
Mr Clammy is such a great name for this guy... The only thing this vid is missing is an appearance from the overly long screw drivers!
@brianandrews5084
@brianandrews5084 Жыл бұрын
There's a podcast called "20 Macs for 2020" and the host and guest refer to this design as "the tail fin era". If you were to take out a laptop that looked like this in a business setting, people wouldn't take you seriously, unless your business was art or advertising, etc, and that people weren't willing to sacrifice the space these took up on their desks and in their bags. Apple didn't even have a portable with colors beyond grey or white until the M1.
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
Apple had different colour portables before the M1... this video contains one of them. As for being taken seriously, that's a gross exaggeration. Businesses don't generally make decisions based on the colour of the laptop someone brings to a meeting. That laptop is clearly from Apple (a well known company who aggressively marketed these and original iMac on TV), is/was blazingly fast, and has everything built in. A talking point maybe, but nothing more.
@garyhart6421
@garyhart6421 Жыл бұрын
WOW !!! What a palaver !
@TechTimeTraveller
@TechTimeTraveller Жыл бұрын
Good lord that was a process for a RAM and HD upgrade! I'm glad things got simpler with the modern MacBooks. I would have PTSD if I had to upgrade something like that on a regular basis. Nice work!
@RandallCrook
@RandallCrook Жыл бұрын
You mean modern macbooks that come with soldered on Storage and CPU integrated RAM. ;) I do remember upgrade the RAM on my White Macbook though and it was a lot simpler.
@sausage5849
@sausage5849 Жыл бұрын
Gee, not even one screw leftover! 🙂 You certainly seem to know these devices inside out.
@bandiras2
@bandiras2 Жыл бұрын
As a PC guy, just looking your fight against this cursed design gives me a headache.
@30anerds
@30anerds 10 ай бұрын
OMG, I so want that Indigo. So perfect. AMAZING condition. If you sell it, I would love to have it!
@daverhoads22
@daverhoads22 7 ай бұрын
I’ll be doing this upgrade soon. Thanks for the overview. I’m not looking forward to it!
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I find this insane, when most of my old thinkpads I can flip over, remove the bottom cover with a few screws, and have the whole thing including a RAM upgrade done in less then 15 minutes if I'm taking it slow.
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
That's certainly not the case for many other laptops though. Many are difficult to upgrade, but that's the price we pay for squeezing a lot of technology and features in to a mobile device. Compromises have to me made.
@ballistik_coffee_boy
@ballistik_coffee_boy Ай бұрын
Great video
@hellion9547
@hellion9547 Жыл бұрын
Man, this sucker makes the Quadra 800 design feel like a joy to work with...
@TheMacGeek
@TheMacGeek 5 ай бұрын
Great video ❤ I always wanted one of these. But I do find my M1 MacBook air more practical in daily use (working browser, fast WiFi, current application compatibility). Cool laptop though
@pipp33
@pipp33 Жыл бұрын
Sweet hoodie
@RKelleyCook
@RKelleyCook Жыл бұрын
WTH were Steve's minions thinking by putting the component most likely to fail (the 2" rusty disk spinning around at 90 times a second) underneath a dozen other components all with teeny tiny easy to break cables???
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you cram loads of cutting edge technology in to a relatively thin chassis. Apple weren't the only ones doing it like that, and they certainly weren't expecting customers to do repairs or upgrades on them. Repair centres would have the process down to a fine art, and customers don't care if it takes a technician 2 minutes or 20 minutes to disassemble, as long as it comes back working.
@patrickfurlong4276
@patrickfurlong4276 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! Sounds like Apple must have gotten a massive job lot of screws for $10 million and needed to use them!
@T3hBeowulf
@T3hBeowulf Жыл бұрын
User Replaceable batteries on an Apple product. Amazing. 😏 Neat guide! Can you drop a link to the iFixIt teardown in your description for posterity?
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen Жыл бұрын
That iBook is in extremely good condition, the plastics in so many of them have degraded to sometimes very strange colors... maybe there were different formulations? green/brown tinges seem common in many with no obvious way to fix it. It's interesting how serviceable laptops have become though, this type of complicated disassembly was so common back then and well into the 2010s! most modern laptops are extremely simple to open and constructed so differently.
@lbanting
@lbanting Жыл бұрын
Now, it’s ready to run MorphOS!
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
Even as a long time Amiga Fan, I have to say the last time I looked, MorphOS had even less software than 25+ year old PPC Mac OS. As impressive as all the "new" Amiga inspired OSs are, having been built from the ground up, they really don't offer anything you can't already get in other mainstream OSs, even really old ones. Unless you're using DOS and Windows 3.x, in which case ANYTHING is an improvement. 😁
@lbanting
@lbanting Жыл бұрын
@@another3997 I do agree with you to an extent. however MorphOS does run classic Amiga software fairly well, so that being said. for the still diehard Amiga fan, its a great machine and OS combination.
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind trying to get my hands on a G4 Mac Mini for this purpose.
@lbanting
@lbanting Жыл бұрын
@@MrLurchsThings I heard that even some G5 desktop and laptops will also run MorphOS. I had a G4 Mac Mini running it. It worked great!
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek Жыл бұрын
Ahh, good old Oak. Used to be my beverage of choice when I was a youth. I mean how do you do fellow youths?
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek Жыл бұрын
I was going to say it wasn't as bad as my old 12" Powerbook G4, but perhaps it was more fiddly. It would've taken me a full day to tear that machine down and reassemble it, if I hadn't have run out of time and had to split it across two days. Although I did have to replace the screen assembly and bottom shell, so literally everything had to come out of the machine before I put it back together. But I can definitely say upgrading my 15" Powerbook G4 was much better. I really should get around to swapping out the European keyboard with the slightly more normal US American one though. I can almost never hit the bloody enter key first time on that thing!
@RetroReviewYT
@RetroReviewYT Жыл бұрын
The later G3’s should do larger drives… I might be wrong though.
@muttBunch
@muttBunch 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome. But makes perfect sense why they always charge a trillion bucks for these because of all that's involved during assembly.
@cla3d
@cla3d Жыл бұрын
You could make multiple partitions and have os 8, os 9 and os x on the same drive with multiple partitions
@Renville80
@Renville80 Жыл бұрын
Gee, but that was a task and a half! Like others said, can you partition the drive to make the rest of the space visible?
@tigheklory
@tigheklory Жыл бұрын
It is one of the most jerky designs I have ever seen! The hard drive should be removable with one screw. I have a Pentium 100 Sharp laptop from before that laptop existed and you don't even need a screw to take out the hard drive, just push in 2 clips. I would love to see you do some content on the very interesting Coleco Adam computer. It has some really cool modern accessories like the Fujinet card and a brand new MIDI card.
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
The question is, does your old Sharp laptop have all the same features built in as the later G3 iBook? When you integrate faster CPUs, faster memory, better GPUs, modems, removable wi-fi cards, a faster CD rom drive etc, the design and layout have to change to accommodate everything. This is before the commonly used SOC designs we have today. The more things you cram in, the more complicated it becomes to design without making it too big... hence more compromises have to be made.
@tigheklory
@tigheklory Жыл бұрын
@@another3997 the processor is socketed, it has PCMCIA card slots and you can change the memory modules so yes.
@drphilxr
@drphilxr Жыл бұрын
The full version link to that song would be much appreciated - respected Sir! :D
@Jean-lr4hv
@Jean-lr4hv Жыл бұрын
Have you had any luck finding batteries for these clamshell iBooks? I just got one with a dead battery and haven't been able to find any on the internet.
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings Жыл бұрын
Action Retro has a video on repacking them. Gonna try it someday.
@elephystry
@elephystry 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if partitioning the SSD would curb the storage issue.
@neilthomas6042
@neilthomas6042 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video; I am cacky handed and wish I could do this. I did try and swap a hard drive in a used laptop and found I could not load a Windows OS.
@Edsshed
@Edsshed 11 ай бұрын
Hi, hope you can help me, I'm desperately looking for a spectrum plus keyboard. I'm working on a new mobile spectrum next and need a keyboard to use with it, and am looking for a decent one to use. Do you by chance have one or know someone who does. Willing to pay for it. Also looking for the full tape system for a +2. If you can help I'd be grateful. UK based. Final product will be shown on my youtube when complete.
@reboxtherapy
@reboxtherapy 6 ай бұрын
I wanted yo buy AAPL stocks when nobody else did, however this wasn't the reason
@aurthorthing7403
@aurthorthing7403 Жыл бұрын
Can you partition the drive into smaller pieces to make the machine think they are not all the same?
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 11 ай бұрын
Yes. One thing to remember is that the IDE controller has a limitation of up to 120 gigabytes maximum and can't boot from a capacity that big. In the case of this SSD, set up the first partition for around 7 gigabytes and the remainder partitions of 120 gigabyte sizes.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 11 ай бұрын
120GB not 128GB. Use an external drive for apps and files.
@brennonr
@brennonr Жыл бұрын
so easy to service haha
@50ShadesOfBeige
@50ShadesOfBeige 11 ай бұрын
iToliet Seat
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel Жыл бұрын
Great work. To be fair to apple, they really did make these machines to last. And no fragile hinge issues.
@SAerror1
@SAerror1 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely absurd procedure to replace a simple harddrive, I really wonder what the designers were thinking. Maybe they secretly hated service technicians and wanted to make their lives miserable. On my own clamshell ibook I cut a hole in the metal shield large enough to get a CF card in and out of the adapter I installed just by lifting up the keyboard afterwards.
@jjohnson71958
@jjohnson71958 Жыл бұрын
the clam shell design was slow flawed and not so easy to open to service the components
@jowi_24seven43
@jowi_24seven43 11 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for the low paid factory workers having to assemble this monstrosity back in the day
@gowron277a
@gowron277a Жыл бұрын
Does anyone still make batteries for these or are we just using them as weights now?
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 Жыл бұрын
No, and the same for a lot of older Thinkpad models as well sadly that are still very usable with a RAM, SSD, and Linux install, but there are some videos on YT on how to repack the G3 Batteries if you're adventurous, and have the skills.
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