This video shares how a Class 'D' amplifier works. It covers the strengths and weak points. Featuring a pair of 600W into 8 Ohm mono blocks from D-Sonic.
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@madmeister407 Жыл бұрын
Another great vid. I've had a good many class A and some mighty powerful class A B amps in my time and all of them ran hot, but at present I'm using a couple of Primare A34.2 class D amps in bridged mode delivering 550w into 8 Ohms each and the music sounds truly magnificent.
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
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@johnmarchington31462 жыл бұрын
I think a good class D amplifier can compete with anything nowadays and Bruno Putzeys designs seem to be among the very best.
@joeysarmiento19252 жыл бұрын
I am from the Philippines and I can't help but watch in awe at your great single driver per channel Sibelius speakers. Thank you ❤️ for the nice explanation.
@PearlAcoustics2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very kind! Best wishes from Belgium 🇧🇪
@jlutell3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Zero Fidelity for pointing me to your channel. Phenomenal presentations and I'm in love with your speakers without having heard them...sigh.
@naim70s3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, a balance between technical and ordinary joe audiophile sensibilities. Bravo
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@QoraxAudio3 жыл бұрын
I think even the average class D ICEpower module sounds good nowadays. Nice dynamics, good slew rate/transient response. Class D used to be inferior to A or AB, but a lot has changed in the past two decades.
@davidweeks19972 жыл бұрын
Digital signal processing. So long as your switching frequency is high enough, the granularity of the signal is a perfect reproduction of the source signal. None of this was practical until the development of modern micro controllers/micro processors. Digital signal processors. That, and crazy good development in switch mode components. The same technology drives electric vehicles too.
@keithforrest15433 жыл бұрын
I have had a D-Sonic M3a 400wpc stereo amplifier for several years now, and it is an amazing amp. I routinely tell people who ask about it: If I had a budget of $100,000 to buy another amplifier, I would NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN what amp I would buy that I would like better than my D-SONIC. I have compared D-SONIC amps to amps well into the 5 figures (over $10k+, some even over $50k), and I like the D-SONIC better. The value of D-SONIC amps is through the roof. Even the smallest one (the one I own) will drive well just about any consumer loudspeaker on the market (at 400 wpc into 8 ohms and 800 wpc into 4 ohms).
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
It’s always great to hear from people who have found the right equipment for themselves. Indeed, the D-Sonic range is right up there with the best.
@christopherward50652 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really relatable explanation of class-D. It seems to be a good approach to maintaining signal fidelity. It’s harder to audition equipment now, there are fewer retailers here in London. There seem to be more class-D options now as it becomes more mainstream so I will try to find some to audition.
@PearlAcoustics2 жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher, you are very welcome. Thanks for your very kind comments. If I may make a suggestion? Perhaps make an appointment my friend Ajay Verma or Art and Sound. He’s in West London and can offer you a great location to listen for as long as you like to a whole range of equipment. He’s even got my pair of D-Sonics right now. It would mean driving to West London. But i think you’ll find it worth it. Good luck!
@christopherward50652 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcousticsthat’s good to know. I live in Southfields near Wimbledon so it’s easy to get to West London. My Perreaux 200i amplifier suddenly and mysteriously failed two days ago. I will find someone to repair it. It’s a good opportunity to audition class-D sound. Thanks for he tip. Brilliant!
@PearlAcoustics2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherward5065 you’re welcome! When I was over at Ajay’s last time he had the new NAD Purify amplifier and I have to say, it was really impressive. In a blind audition, I don’t think anyone could ever tell.
@christopherward50652 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics there certainly is an enthusiasm for what NAD with Purifi Eigentakt has achieved.
@kingscinema38733 жыл бұрын
These are great amp - i enjoy for couple of months the M3a-6100-7 in my HT and love it! Even made review on my channel! Thanks for this review also - the more people know about these great products, the better!
@cien00003 жыл бұрын
Just discover your Chanel . Amazing work .
@67spankadelik10 ай бұрын
Great information. I'm currently using Dsonic M3000s for my Maggies 1.7s and it sounds wonderful and still delicate for my small stable of bookshelf speakers. The grip on the speaker is Ironclad. From what I understand the design has been upgraded. In the near future I will be taking it in personally because I live in Houston to have my unit upgraded with the latest technology. I also will ask him if he could add a gain knob like Parasound. This will help take some of the aggressiveness off the small speakers. It's delicate but you still have to be mindful. I think the gain would make it more forgiving.
@PearlAcoustics10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@ajmnsc3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@menfallinloveandwomenmakeplans3 жыл бұрын
I was fascinated by the story of the Sibelius speakers. I could almost buy a pair just from hearing about them. Your experience of amplifiers is also interesting. You have spoken mainly about power amps - D Sonic, Ming Da and the power amp section of the Pure Audio integrated. Which pre amps do you like? Best wishes, Anthony
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Dear Anthony. Thank you for your kind words. To be honest, I am pretty ‘a-typical’ when it comes to pre-amplifiers. I like to keep the signal path as simple and elegant as possible. If you like Tube powered, Ayon make very fine (but expensive) equipment. However, we use the QUAD Artera Play plus. It is a fabulous unit and is compatible with many power amplifiers. But there are many of these type of products available. I like these ‘all in one units’ because they reduce cables and external interference and also because they go out of date quickly, so are better value for money to replace. Having said that, I also use a 1986 Quad 66 pre-amplifier that is still working very well indeed!
@bphilbac3 жыл бұрын
Again, great info. I just subscribed.
@The.Spotlight-Kid3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But i saw "28'Hz Lo-Pass filter" was written on the rear! It should be Hi-Pass filter at 28'Hz if it is a low-frequency sub-sonic filter. (& it's far too low a f' if it really is a "28'Hz Low-Pass Filter" useful for a deep sub-woofer amp) Surely a mistake print. The fairly new Class D amps using Gallium Nitride transistors (or is it Gallium Arsnide? ..1 or the other) instead of the normal silicon transistors, I've noticed they are unaminously suprising some good (imo) KZfaq amplifier reviewers who previously didn't like all the qualities of all their previously reviewed (silicon-based) Class-D amps, yet are all being very pleasantly surprised & 2or 3 near shocked by the new Gallium-x transistor switching amps. Ive no idea what type these are. Obviously very good nonetheless
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Well spotted! That was the label placed on the back of the amp by Dennis, he realised the error the moment he did it but we found it amusing and have kept it there ever since. 😉
@The.Spotlight-Kid3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics nice one. A touch of uniqueness, tho his colleagues may often remind him of it, in jest.
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
@@The.Spotlight-Kid 😀👍
@pennfootball713 жыл бұрын
I use Mola Mola Kaluga's I think you will like their performance a little better then these and they are 400 watts @ 8ohms and easier to live with. Just use a good aftermarket power cable with good connectors and good copper not the little evil cheap black 14 AWG crappy one it comes with. The capicitors a lone in Mola Mola cost more than the Hypex module and they use a proprietary power supply as well they make in house. It would be interesting to compare them. I would also think about using a good preamp from Mola Mola or an Audionet Stern. The Stern is the finest preamp I have ever heard, I use a Lampizator Baltic DAC with a built in active tube preamp. My speakers are YG Acoustics Carmel 2's.
@ponch00683 жыл бұрын
$16,000 a pair for class D. I guess your paying for the fancy cases.
@pennfootball713 жыл бұрын
@@ponch0068You have no idea they were custom designed by Bruno Putzy's..The caps alone cost more than the hypex modules and custom power supply bespoke for them
@ga12f12o3 жыл бұрын
@@pennfootball71 Yeah, Bruno from Mola Mola is a true expentional designer, a true master in his field. The VTV amplifier based on EVAL-1 is exceptional value in high-end.
@kinggodzilla76472 жыл бұрын
Soundwise, it is advisable to pick a Class-D amp that uses a linear power supply and not a switching power supply instead.
@scottmichaels17642 жыл бұрын
You're not serious, are you?
@c.j.vanwoerden16762 жыл бұрын
Untill now I have never heard a class D amplifier sound any good. Yesterday I heard a 30 watt SET amplifier of Voxativ. That blew me away. Technology of the thirties of the previous age is still King.
@MitchHowes6 ай бұрын
Is a substandard power supply the reason why my 2 Hypex Ncore500 mono blocks cant keep up with my first generation Bryston 4b? What did you mean by front end module? Thank you
@PearlAcoustics6 ай бұрын
I mean a buffer board, this amplifies the incoming signal to a level to suit the Purify boards, they often use ‘op-amps’.
@jeremylister893 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. As a PSU engineer of many years, do the 600W mono blocks have pfc? Not sure of the regs on audio equipment!
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Hi - no PFC, that I am aware of. You should check with D-Sonic directly. I know their power consumption is minimal on standby.
@shingnosis3 жыл бұрын
We used to joke that class A, A/B and D was just the scoring of the amps relative to their performance. But maybe D has improved in recent years?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
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@jayarguelles80803 жыл бұрын
Just subscribe, many thanks for the great info 👍
@scottnorris90793 жыл бұрын
Always thought I’d get a parasound halo amp for my HT but now these are on my radar. Really curious on how they stack up. There’s not a lot of side by side comparisons with these against SS amps
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Indeed Scott. D-Sonic do little marketing. They are different like a high revving Italian sports car is different from a low revving, high torque British sports car.
@PetraKann3 жыл бұрын
Whilst you can extract a very good performance from a D Class amp with a lot less power consumption due to its high efficiency, a high end vacuum tube amplifier can give you a sublime listening experience and allow you to cook an omelette on top of the amp at the same time.
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
So true! I use my D-class amplifiers in the Summer and switch to the technically ‘less perfect’ A class tube monoblocks, in the winter. they are great at giving a cosy feeling and heating the room at the same time!
@PetraKann3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics I recall an incident in the 1970s or 1980s where a Soviet fighter jet came down in territory outside the Soviet Union and the US managed to get their hands on it. The story is that the US officials that examined the jet were amused at the fact that there were vacuum tubes used, some of them micro-vacuum tubes, in the jet's electronics. They later noticed that the areas where the vacuum tubes were used were critical flight and weapons systems etc. Systems that the jet could not do without in an emergency. Vacuum tubes at the time could withstand much great shocks from a nuclear blasts or radiation surges than microchips or standard solid state transistors could withstand. There has been advances in shielding since that time but it would not surprise me if micro vacuum tubes are still used somewhere in the Military of some countries. What has this got to do with speakers and amplifiers etc? Probably nothing.
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
@@PetraKann love it! Sometimes what we see as ‘primative’ are indeed advantages, if only we can see it from another viewpoint. To think that the 805 vacuum tubes I use on my class A monoblocks were invented for radio transmission and often used in aircraft!
@PetraKann3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics indeed. A tube amp may be a useful investment in the event of a nuclear war. Could be still listening to Kind of Blue whilst your neighbour’s amp chips have fried in the blast wave. Not a bad way to go. My experience with valve amps is with guitar amplifiers. Valves certainly colour the tone in a unique way. It’s an interesting area because the bulk of tine colouration comes from the pre-amp stage in the signal path. It’s here where the weak low voltage signal from the guitar pick ups is increased in voltage. The pre-amp is a voltage a as amplification stage. The power stage is a current amplification stage that increases the power to drive the speaker. Like your speakers guitar amps dont use crossover circuitry (not that I know of anyway). I cant remember the company or brand name but they have released rackmount pre-amps from classic amp designs like vox, marshall, fender, mesa-boogie etc. You then only use one Power Amp unit and one speaker cabinet which are connected to your stack of pre-amps. A foot switch allows you connect different pre amps with their unique tone. Tone resides in the pick up design, strings, guitar design as well but above all, in the fingers and technique of the guitar player (see Jeff Beck). Cheers (Lockdown in Australia with only music to keep sane)
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
@@PetraKann 👍 There are also a number of DSP Guitar amp simulators, such Roland. Maybe one day there will be one for HiFi amps.
@fixnreview3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate if u test it & show us what is inside.
@paulaj28293 жыл бұрын
I still have my Exposure X integrated amp which I enjoy very much.. What group would you put the Exposure X in in your recommendation as I still feel that I'm doing just fine with what i have..
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
sorry Paul, I have only just seen your comment. I have heard nothing but good about your amplifier. If it’s working for you then, keep it. There’s no reason to change.
@Unker_Spunkanathan3 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed too!
@henriksrensen32203 жыл бұрын
I have tried aavik and Devialet expensive class d amplifiers, I still prefer great class a a/b designs like Gryphon amplifiers
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Dear Henrik. You’re not alone. I personally could not live with class D only. But I am lucky enough to have access to all kinds of equipment and adjust according to my mood and the season.
@henriksrensen32203 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics 👍😊
@ianmedium3 жыл бұрын
I love these programs! Could you tell me what you use for preampfification as it seems all you show are power amplifiers
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very kind words. Mostly, I use a QUAD Artera Play. It’s a DAC, CD player and preamplifier in one.
@ianmedium3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Thank you very much for your kind reply, I will have to take a look at that as I am not familiar with it. All the best from a fellow Brit living in Austria
@AeroSS8710 ай бұрын
I'm a degenerate. How would these things handle Pantera running full tilt @ 4 ohm through some at15 Cerwin Vegas?
@cleanerpath943 жыл бұрын
where can i buy a rack like the one in this video? Thank you in advance!
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
I am afraid it is a ‘one off’ - I had our cabinet people make it for me.
@Purpleyamz3 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing I always wonder with Class D, is if there can be an analogy made with fluorescent lighting. There's some well documented evidence that the 120hz flickering of fluorescent light bulbs causes fatigue, headaches, a sort of subconscious response to the flickering stimulus which some parts of the brain do perceive, even if the eyes do not. Incandescent lighting is prone to the same 120hz flicker, but the filaments don't cool down quickly enough to really express it, so they're perceived to be more "natural" or warm or calming in comparison. I could be totally wrong here, but could class A's "naturalness" be considered almost like an incandescent bulb where as Class D is more akin to fluorescent, even if the switching frequency is extremely fast? Could the brain, at some imperceptible level be annoyed by the switching? Getting into woo-woo land here but, even with a decent class D, does anyone notice a weird fatigue or harshness settle in after an hour or more of listening at relatively acceptable levels (less than 80db)?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I never have, except with super DSP processed surround sound type environments.
@Purpleyamz3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Not sure I really have either, except in cars with cheap class D amps (like mine) and even that may have more to do with having tweeters on the A beam pointing directly into the driver and passenger's faces. It's just always something I've wondered about, especially in the earlier days of Class D when they were often described as sounding unnatural. I guess the switching frequency on most good class D amps is much, much faster than 120 hz however.
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
@@Purpleyamz if I remember correctly, switching is over 48khz... way above our recognition
@Purpleyamz3 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics I think some go into the mhz!
@kingscinema38733 жыл бұрын
Kevin i don't think its a good comparison in this case. Its like talking the CD will make you headache because its coded in 01010101 signal
@mattphang24773 жыл бұрын
May I know if the D-sonic are warm or cool side of neutral ?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
I would say they are neutral. Ie very accurate. They don’t add any detectable coloration - good or bad. Sorry if I have not answered your question!
@mattphang24773 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics thanks! I had the XTZ edge a2-300 which i didn’t really like cos it’s on the cool side of neutral
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
@@mattphang2477 indeed... these things are very subjective, but a weird thing I found is that by changing interconnects, sometimes can make a difference. For example Amazon ’Basics’ can tame down a harsh sounding amp! Weird but true.
@DonLee4802 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned these amps couple different times. They are great little amps. I had the previous generation. The previous Gens did not mate well with speakers that have ribbon tweeters. Also speakers that sound neutral or lean sound more cold and lean. I had my d sonic mated to dynaudio c4 and sounded fantastic. When I paired them with Salk SS8 with the ribbon tweeters sounded horrible. The speakers sounded sibilant and thin. The Salks measure flat and doesn’t have a lot of bass to begin with but with the d Sonics sounded like there was zero bass and all highs. I switched to a warmer class A/B amp - parasound JC1s and the sound was more full and warmer. I have tried other class d amps like bel cantos and wyred 4 sound and those sound warmer. D sonic to be sound more cold and clinical which mates well with warmer speakers.
@stavebnictvo2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the great review. I want to ask if this amplifier is a good choice for KEF REF 5. I would like to use NAD M33 as a preamp and D-SONIC as an amp.
@PearlAcoustics2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comments. I see no reason why this amp would not work well with your KEF’s. The dynamics will be fabulous. But watch the volume control! Some preamplifiers have configurable outputs, preventing over powering you loudspeakers. But this is not essential, if you are sensible.
@Drackleyrva3 жыл бұрын
What solid state preamps work well with the D-Sonic amps?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
They are not fussy. You can even match them to a tube pre-amplifier, like a Prima-Luna. I use a QUAD.
@clemleg1232 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics which one do you use, may I ask? Is it your main system or just occasional?
@PearlAcoustics2 жыл бұрын
@@clemleg123 I use a Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 in our professional listening room and also at home.
@locmanw15833 жыл бұрын
In what way they sound like SET?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Well I can’t say they actually do. It’s just more in that direction, than they were before. You could begin to compare with some solid state SETS.
@robertyates99732 жыл бұрын
I would respectfully suggest that the low power Spec Corp class D amplifiers would be a much better match with FR speakers like the Sibelius. The designer is coming from a tube SET background.
@epg25013 жыл бұрын
Have you compared these to the Nord NC 500 Mk II’s?
@PearlAcoustics3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your question. No I have never compared them. Sorry I can not answer your question more fully
@olafzijnbuis Жыл бұрын
At 05:00 I see 28hz LO-PASS OMG This is so completely wrong 1. It should read 28 Hz LO-PASS with a capital H to honor Mr. Hertz and a space between value and unit. 2. this is hopefully NOT A LO-PASS filter. From Wikipedia: A low-pass filter is a filter that passes signals with a frequency lower than a selected cutoff frequency. If this was a LOW-PASS filter you would ONLY hear the rumble... How can anyone trust your information?
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Indeed. You’re absolutely right. I have no idea why the manufacturer put a sticker on with that . Of course it should either say ‘high pass’ or low frequency roll off.
@simplereef4854 Жыл бұрын
Class D always has a very good bottom end, but dry and sterilized mid-range.
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
I think you might find that things are changing 😉
@laurentzduba12983 жыл бұрын
Weird how commercially made class-D audio amps in the 20 to 50 WPC range are as rare as hen's teeth. 🤔
@xprcloud3 жыл бұрын
actually they are plentiful, and dirt cheap, and excellent (also sometimes they spec for 300watts are for 4 or 2 ohms, at %10 distortion which means 50 at 8 with no distortion)
@raffiequler75103 жыл бұрын
NAD makes really good ones. The C328 and the C338 integrated amplifiers are 40 and 50 Watts respectively. Class D and some really decent build quality and sound quality.
@carlsitler90713 жыл бұрын
This guy us a genius. "If you want a good amp, buy a well designed Class A amp, or a well designed Class AB amp, or a well designed Class D amp. Don't use a tube amp in a hot room but use a tube amp in a cold room."
@terrywho223 жыл бұрын
I hear this often, but really, how much does a typical push pull tube amp warm up a room? I've been using one for years and have never seen the room thermometer move even 1 degree up when I turn it on ...and my amp is in a rather small, non-climate controlled room. I guess this idea comes from people that like to sit inches away from their amp.
@carlsitler90713 жыл бұрын
@@terrywho22 As much as a couple light bulbs.
@terrywho223 жыл бұрын
@@carlsitler9071 Yup, that's about right.
@elliottcottell86893 жыл бұрын
How many if I use energy saving bulbs?
@RennieAsh3 жыл бұрын
terrywho22 maybe it has to do with sound quality? Class A is far worse to use in summer lol if you don’t have air conditioning
@peterprimes497 Жыл бұрын
Mola Mola has only one distributor listed in USA. A NJ store with a horrible web page. Oh well
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
That’s a shame. You can always reach out to them directly?