These games taught me to save. Save, save, save, save, save! Save before combat. Save after combat. Save when you think something will happen. Save when you think nothing will happen.

Doesn’t need it? Yes. Do I want it? Also yes.

They could at least port them on consoles

i definitely think most of the remaster/remake crowd comes from people who haven't played the originals. there is no game like the originals and a remake would change that for the worse

Probably the first and only time Todd has told the truth.

Modders: Very Well, We'll Do It Ourselves

I dream with a remake of fallout 1 and 2 with better graphics. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Bethesda only needs to make the wheel prettier.

I think a minor graphics overhaul would be nice (maybe even some "fixs/uncuts"), but also have an option to play with either settings like with Halo: MCC.

If it was like Baldurs Gate 3 in which it updated and added quality of life improvements from the origanal two games, I would think it would be palatable to OG Fallout players.

I'm just playing through the original fallout for the first time. I was only 1 when the first game came out and fallout 3 like most people was my introduction to the fallout universe. Although the game doesn't hold your hand and tell you where to go plus the controls and UI being a little confusing to the zoomer mind, it's still such an awesome experience. I think it's cool I have to figure out what I'm doing based on the dialogue npcs say to me and how that leads to me getting lost in the world trying to find my objective talking to different people along the way to find clues. It feels so much more like what a real RPG experience is supposed to feel like instead of just having your pip boy tell you everything and a marker guiding you to your objective. I Definitely recommend people give the older games a try cause there is so much charm there. That being said I still would love to see these games modernized, but given the state of the gaming industry maybe it's a good thing they aren't.

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Modders: Fine I’ll do it myself!

If they ever did remake them, they need to keep the isometric style. With the scope of the original games, it wouldn’t work from an FPS perspective without making several small maps and reducing the scope drastically.

Along with the Quake 1 & 2 remaster patches and Nightdive studios Remasters, it's shown that a remaster can be both a preservation of the original and the innovations of more contemporary quality of life changes. Look at all that screen real-estate to fit in with more conveniences, like a drop-down/pop-up inventory, a counter for how much caps you have, a calculator instead of a linear scroll for how much to drop/give/take item, displaying both held weapons at once instead of pressing the red button to switch, dialogues having flavor text to define their meaning, the ability to skip UI transitions, more variations for the sprites to better reflect the characters equipped gear, ability to give your companions like Dogmeat specific commands, a quick-use button on the HUD that uses the equivalent amount of AP and ALL of this being optional with the option to play the original version instead. I CANNOT fathom what the downside to be to offer a optional updated version that takes away nothing with ever addition, including the version being optional.

I recently got into the classic fallouts after being a fan for almost a decade and man… it would destroy those games to have them funneled into a fallout 4 template. The score, the atmosphere, the gameplay, all has this eerie and unsettling edge to it. It really feels like a wasteland, its tone is perfectly set and balanced. The dialogue scenes are something I’ve never experienced before, and have so much character. Newer installations in the series are not necessarily worse, but they are not Fallout in the way Fallout was. If there were anything to remaster, I’d say new Vegas is a great candidate. It’s the perfect in between of interplay fallout and Bethesda fallout, and therefore can kind of match the flow of either.

The Polish madman remaking Fallout 2 in a Build/Doom Engine style is the only one I can trust to deliver some kind of classic Fallout remake

I disagree, no I won’t elaborate.

How are you doing TKs-Mantis?

Fallout doesn't need a remaster or a remake. What I want to see is what Tim Cain alled his "retirement project", where he takes his time and fixes all the stuff that was broken in the original game and maybe gets it to run on modern hardware.

Even good remakes run the risk of helping to erase the medium's history, or at least steer players away from understanding it. The less the audience knows the history, the more that game design and aesthetics become an echo chamber, with everyone in the industry drawing from the same five years of inspirations.

My attempts to play the classic Fallout games always leave me feeling exhausted after an hour of play. I'm no rpg casual and have enjoyed more difficult isometric games but playing the classic Fallout games even with mods still feels like attempting to learn how to drive a manual transmission forklift to assemble a ship in a bottle. I just don't find it relaxing or engaging.

the wide screen thing where it's just showing a lot of extra stuff that would be off screen normally makes it look like a tilt shift photography video

I would like a 3rd party to remake it, possibly in the Divinity engine

Todd is absolutely right. Fallout 97 is a work of art and still looks great. You don’t remake the Lascaux Cave Paintings or The Sistine Chapel for “modern audiences” and you shouldn’t for Fallout either. Now if fans want to reimagine the game by making 3d mods ect… I think that is great. Other artists reinterpreting art is great but no official remakes should be made by the Bethesda.

Old games don't need remasters. They need updated drivers/compatibility.

Thank you for the vid, i really needed this atm much love.

i think the old games are great, but i still think adding them to modern gaming systems and updating just a few aspects of it to be compatible would breathe a new life into the games, i would love to play a newly released version and i know so many people who would finally be willing to pick them up if they did something to make the games more accessible

I started with Fallout 3 and was also a little wary of the old UI and controls and burned out pretty quickly. Years later I played Wasteland 3 and really enjoyed it and decided to go back and play Fallout and Fallout 2. Great decision. Playing that style of RPG and the sheer difficulty of top difficulty Wasteland prepared me perfectly for Fallout and was a bit of a treat with the cross property easter eggs and references.

I'm 15 at this time commenting this and I put 100 hours into the first game and I love it, The game's weapons in terms on diverse variety and balance determines what skill perk and level you are. Also on how they get op the further you get and to take time using your skill perks wisely. Like the plasma rifle for example when I finally equipped the plasma rifle from the glow after save and after save and a realised I needed between 6 strength or over to use depending if u chose an agility build which I did, so I returned to the brotherhood handed them the tape from the dead brotherhood soldier and invested my caps to their doctor for enough strength but to top it off still was extremely difficult to handle cuz I didn't deposit enough skill points to the energy weapon skill which made me tend to miss more at the military base, so I did some jobs in the hub like caravan guarding and the mission on where u save the brotherhood guy where I invested enough on the perk and later got hardened power armor. This game really proves to me that remasters don't reimagine the charm and joy you have on the previous game their trying to recapture and create. One of these examples is that the first game displayed one of if not the best skill building software I have ever seen in a game like its that good. Overall good game would highly recommend if your into these kind of games 👍

This is a great chat and as an old timer myself (I am the venerable age of 45) who lived these games back in the day it really resonates with me. I loved all the Black Isle games but probably played more Baldurs Gate than Fallout at the time. Something that's always inspired me is the very active modding community of all of these games and I think that's why these games don't need an 'official' remake, because the community is keeping them alive already.

All Fallout 1 needs is sfall included with it, mostly for the game speed option and "take all" button, and F2 only needs the speed setting, that about it really, maybe high res stuff too, but you can set that stuff up yourself. The one thing these really lack are the console ports.

A tutorial to get started would make for a pretty good video I think. There's probably some out there, but I don't know which one's are good or trash. I'd give them another try if I had something that could help me get a grasp of how things work

My feelings on remaking these old classics: My sons were playing games at the time they were fresh and new. Even so, FO and TES never came into the house, for whatever reason. As very, very busy freelancer, I didn't get into gaming until about 2011 (except for Myst and Riven). Even back in 2011, I had a lot of trouble keeping FO3 running and rarely got far, and still haven't. Oblivion was my first TES game and FONV my true first FO game. Even then, my computer was t a bit too advanced to play them w/o help. So I think remaking these games could open them for new young players who wouldn't be able to play such old games, and it would allow me to finally experience the entire franchises instead of relying on videos to learn the whole stories.

I’m 17 and been a fallout fan since I was about 10 (my first game was fallout 3) and iv only started playing the classic fallout this year and I love it so much! It has such a lovely charm to it and it made me draw a lot more, like what you were saying about having to use your imagination. I love looking at the 16bit pixel and trying to make a character design for them!!! So I’m fine with there not being a remake since I feel like it would damage my creativity and headconnans

Both have held up very well, so it isn't needed. Personally I think the bethesda fallout games look ugly and far worse aesthetically to the original games. A Fallout 1 and 2 enhanced edition done in the same vein as Beamdog did Baldurs gate 1 and 2 would be nice. Zoom feature, and other quality of life features. Maybe some steam achievements.

I don't think a full genre changing remake would benefit the games, but I do think Classic Fallout could really use an Enhanced/Extended Edition style re-release with proper compatibility, quality of life and accessibility features, along with options to restore the cut content that modders have been putting back into the game for decades now. I'm not completely unfamiliar with old school CRPGs, but I still find the old Fallout games' UI clunky as hell and the stat/difficulty balance not particularly fun to get used to. They're great games, don't get me wrong, but I think they're really starting to feel their age and just a few minor to moderate tweaks with customizable options would do a lot to keep them relevant and, ultimately, playable.

Hi Mantis , First off all i just kinda shocked that you also first time experiencing Fallout , in your friend's house and your friends older brother playing Fallout 2 and you experienced with this game like that , interesting thing that i also experienced just like almost you did , it was late 98's , me and my brother visited our uncle back then and our cousin who is older than us playing Fallout 2 in his pc . ( What a interesting coincidence , i just would like to mention that nothing at all :) ) I think most of classic Fallout fans might be agree on that if Bethesda decides to make remastering of these first 2 games and if they decide to hire original developers to make this Project happen , i think we most likely positive about in this situation . Other than that i'm most likely agree on that if Bethesda itself decides to make remastering on these games by itself ,well i don't prefer that . But as for the scenario if Tim Cain , Leonard Boyarsky and most of the other original developers and writers involves into this project , i just would like to share my personal thoughts about it . If this thing happen ; 1) Playing Classic Fallout Games with better graphics and also getting the same environment possibly good think to play these games again . 2) Making a remastered version of this game probably is going to get attention of the younger generations , soo the frenchise itself is going to be more popular than in it's original form right now and new players might have get one of their first experience on the game with non linear playthrough , decision making system , character creation effects your gameplay , reputation system and it's effects your environment . 3) Probably this remastering will give their original developers much more bigger reputation and personally would like to make that happen , because those people made this game with incredibly low budget and thinking that they looked like underappriciated , maybe in this version they will get their true reputation . 4) Tim Cain also mentioned in his youtube channel that he may thinking of adding some of the cut content features and also some of the other user friendly features to make this game more enjoyable to play . 5) Esspecially on Fallout 2 , right after Fallout 1 released couple of months later Tim Cain , Leonard Boyarsky and some other develeopers decide to quit interplay , because of that some of the Fallout 2 features in this game did by other develepers . Maybe with serious discussion with Tim Cain and also developers with Fallout 2 games make some dicussion about this story and maybe decide to go on some path on story that both of the sides agree into and make this game's story in it's improved version . ( My personal opinion and i think most of us might be agree on that Fallout 1 's story is better than Fallout 2 story , but on other hand Fallout 2 is much bigger and have much more features than Fallout 1that might conflicts from people that which one is better :) personally both of them are my greatest games all time for me )

I agree. I recently got fallout 2 from a steam sale and look forward to playing it after I finish Oblivion which is also a new game to me. I was born in 1995 and got exposed to pc gaming at a young age but was a bit too young to really understand a lot of classic crpgs, and am trying to get into them as a late 20s adult

I think a big part of 1 and 2 that wouldn’t quite translate well is the atmosphere. Bethesda loves their grand scenic environments all over the place, but 1 and 2 have vast stretches of emptiness that I feel like would be lost without some kind of new map system. Obviously vehicles could alleviate this, or maybe a kind of MGSV approach

I think the reason Todd doesn't want Fallout 1 and 2 remade is because he has nostalgia like we do, the games do exactly what they're meant to do and bring the series further without any work on Todd's part. He might also feel that kind of reverence with those games like we do, and feels like touching it would invalidate his feelings as to why he likes those games. I feel the same way with Fo3, Oblivion, New Vegas, while it'd be nice to have a more modern version of these games, I don't think there's any need to.

Honestly, it wouldn't be too hard to do a hypothetical remake of Fallout and Fallout 2. If they wanted to give us a remake of the classic duology that played like the classics back in the day, just get the rights to use the engine for Wasteland 2 or 3 and adapt the models for everything accordingly.

It's important to understand that, while these games were huge worlds in their day with lots of quests and stories, the limitations of media storage at the time means they're not as big and expansive as modern games they'd be competing with. As a expansion pack they'd be amazing though. Maybe you find a collection of holo-tapes collected by President Tandi detailing the stories of the Vault Dweller and Chosen One.

Has anyone ever told you that the snake oil salesman looks like you everytime i see him on the show i think of you

You know, it may be sacrilege to say this, but i think a master chief collect for the origonal fallouts would be really cool. Im not saying we need this, but that it would be cool and probably get more people into those games

Hah, we have similar experiences, used my friends copy of fallout 1, and used it on the family compaq PC. Great times..

The thing is they don't have the source code, so they'd pretty much had to build it from scratch and at that point I don't blame them that they'd rather make new games

On the subject of Remaster/Remakes in general, I sorta agree. I also think that there is a trend of just remaking things endlessly instead of getting new ideas. However I think remasters/Remakes of old games are good, but I don't think every beloved game needs it. Some games have aged very well in my opinion, the classic Fallouts for example at least on modern PCs are very playable, IIRC you only really need to fiddle with the resolution, maybe get a mod for the UI scaling, and probably the Restoration Mod for the second game. All that would really be needed is to include those things and maybe a little tweaking to better support modern hardware. I honestly would much rather see a Remaster/Remake/Overhaul update to Fallout 3 which while I enjoyed (I know, I am in a minority) has aged very poorly in gameplay, it was actually felt good when it came out but going back now it is rough. I would love to see an official release of some kind at least bringing up to Fallout NVs gameplay standard if not 4.

think about it though, what if there was a 3d reimagining of 1 and 2 in the vein of tale of two wastelands

Isn’t Todd Howard the same guy trying to sell us on a remaster / update of Skyrim every 18 months?

Don’t let Todd do it but The reasons I’d enjoy a remake of the original fallout is the same as why I’d enjoy a remake of planescape torment (perhaps in the style of baldurs gate 3.) The UI and combat require attentive play to fully understand and could be made more intuitive and accessible. I also personally would love a fully voiced script to accommodate my goopy goblin gamer brain. Also the text boxes that allow you to type whatever you want to specific npcs I’ve never been able to get any proper use out of. I’d much prefer if those were just a list of proper dialogue options.

I think the classic fallout games could and should get a port. Mobile, consoles, etc. But no, Todd says that he wants to focus on new stuff, not on redoing their old stuff. I think the only thing Todd should do is make sure that the games can be run on modern hardware. That's it, no more, no less.

I had Fallout 2 a week before the ofdicial release. It was mailed to me by Tim Cain... for reasons.

Facts. I don’t think the people asking for games to be remade realize the problem they’re creating with gaming

I am in a different camp on this than you. I want someone like Larian to remake Fallout and Fallout 2 in a modern engine and with the cut content restored. As much as I love Fallout 2 (it's my favorite game of all time), I hate the inability to pan the camera to see what is being blocked by the damn walls. A better UI would be divine, and I would love to have ultra-widescreen monitor support. I have yet to see a mod that can address these 3 issues.

There's just something charming about the first two fallout titles: the isometric, ambience (tone and soundtrack), and the talking heads. Then it reminded of two games inspired by this such as Fallout Sonora and Nevada. It has its unique experience that'd be not as charming when remake into 3d fallout.

The only re mastering they will probably do is MTX, a subscription model and needing to be online to play the game.

It's the kind of thing where, sure, it doesn't NEED it since the game works fine as-is and there's plenty of mods to spice things up (though FO1 and 2 deserve way more modding love imo), but it's something I love and don't think would really be degraded by being done in the Fallout 4 engine or whatever. Fallout 3 and 4's problems were almost purely the writing department's fault. So long as they just transfer over the stories all the stuff they could actually screw up is basically done. Just create the new assets, shove it all into its new fancy 3D box, and ship it. Maybe fill it out with a mountain of new side quests, weapons/armors/etc and a better follower system.

While I ultimately agree, If the games got remade I can already imagine the amount of mods and stuff people would, a real enclave faction, adva Pa, the master etc 🙂

I agree, mostly because with mods you can pretty much play 1&2 through new vegas and i feel like thats probably what it would be anyway. Id rather see new fallout games that capture that old vibe, yknow, like New Vegas

Of course it doesn't need a remake, but a remaster or re-release would be great for making it run better on modern hardware, the last time I tried to play this game on Windows 10 on an 1440p monitor the text was so small I couldn't even read it

1 and 2 are archaic, ancient, and hard to get into from a modern perspective, but with how few and far between Fallout games have gotten the absolute last thing I want them to do is to divert resources from new installments (both Fallout and Elder Scrolls) to retread ground already covered. We're likely going to see 15+ year gaps between major installments going forward barring Bethesda expanding, I don't want that gap filled with an remake, tbqh.

Havent watched yet, but my take is that it would be nice to see it being given a new coat of paint with some QoL stuff added, exactly like Diablo 2 Resurrected

When people are willing to die on the hill of "x NEEDS a remaster", I can't help but think that person NEEDS a purpose in life.

Personally I would really like to see a remake of Fallout. I don't know if it should be in the style of classic or modern Fallout but if they go the former I can see them getting the studio that made Baldur's Gate 3 to make it.

I think the biggest thing that gets missed is that having a team work on the classic Fallout games is exactly the type of thing you would want a group of young developers led by a small senior development team to work on. Even, as people have said, having a team together to work on porting it to consoles and making it more UI and controller friendly would be a huge deal. It's not JUST a perk for fans, but for young developers who, right now, need all the help they can get.

If you really want something like that, you can play Underrail, aka the spiritual sequel to Fallout 2.

I would have loved an xcom 2 styled graphics fallout 1/2. it woulda brought so many people into the older titles...

These games taught me, Fallout 3 onwards via first person is the only way to play. : D

I just want those games to get a console port Not a remaster not a remake... Just port them because it keeps the intended experience and lets new fans experience the game

If anything I would just like to see the sprites/models/textures updated somewhat (sans the talking heads, they're too iconic to change).

they need at least a enhanced edition like the infinity engine rpgs have (baldur's gate, icewind dale and planescape torment) theyre still locked to pc when they could easily run on even a switch u need mods to play at modern resolution and achievements would be nice id actually love a full on remake that played like the newer wasteland games since classic fallout combat sucks

The Starcraft and Diablo2 remakes are an example how to do it well. Same game, just upscaled and refined graphics and a more stable engine, but the same game.

Even IF they were to do a fallout 1/2 remake The problem would be HOW they are gonna do it. The main issue would be the map/world space because classic fallout has the world map that is basically "click here and you will walk over there" So would they make the map just like that? And just put loading screens every 2 seconds? Or will they make it a full blown 1 to 1 scale of the map and just let you walk in any direction you want. Personally it would be cool HOWEVER and this is mostly a problem with fallout 1..... 90% of the map is desert with nothing for miles, sure there are areas like the boneyard, the hub and the glow that would be cool if they were expanded and fully explorable thats still not gunna be a good idea bc the map would still completely be empty although the fast travel can fix this issue I believe that fast travel would kind of ruin the game because at that point there just would be no reason to go walk across the desert anymore unless for random encounters. Now fallout 2 would not have these issues because of it having way more areas that could be expanded on like new reno, arroyo, navarro, the glow, the oil rig, etc. Also walking though the desert wouldnt be as bad because the highwayman exists and that would give players reason to go out there Also most importantly the people who would buy theese remakes are gunna be die hard fans and newcomers and lets be honest these games would probobly be review bombed by newer fans for not being as "full of content" as the other games like 4 and 76 Also would theese games be bundled together? Or sold as separete games? (Knowing bethesda they would probobly be separete $60 or $40 games) Tldr; there are many ways theese remakes could go in and they would most likely be torn to shreds by reviewers. I think todd is right on not making any classic fallout remakes.

I'd love to see them remastered with the same ui as an option if nothing else so i can enjoy them touched up but otherwise the same. Also fix the broken quests.

I didnt play the original fallouts until covid. I took the time to learn them and now theyre my favorite of all of them

The original 2 fallout games (and tactics to some extent 😅) are timeless. Best games I've ever played till today. F2 forever goated.

They don't need remasters/remakes. Though they need updated/ported/fixed still. Some modders have made the PC version of New Vegas super stable, but honestly those fixes are more like bandaids, not real fixes. Fallout 3 and NV are not made to run on modern hardware and boy does it show.

An enhanced and ported version à la Baldur's Gate I & II - Beamdog style could be cool...

If they were to do anything I wish they would put an optional tutorial mode in the main menu to teach new players how to play the OG games, I got into them recently and it genuinely felt like I was bashing my head against a wall until it just clicked about 6 hours in

if anyone wants some classic Fallout action, go play Underrail you'll love it

Maybe FO1 & 2 doesn't need a remake but they definitely need a remaster to run in modern systems and bug fix at least

I always would love to see it ported to Android with some small improvements for the platform

a remake in a more bg3 like style with better graphics would be ideal, while leaving core story and themes alone, bethesda's fallouts are far more cheery and retro than the older games, it'd murder the atmosphere

It’s a good thing that we have the modding community to give us what we want 😂

he said that about morrowind too and I'm glad given the direction bethesda has gone. As long as they run on modern pcs they shouldn't be touched.

well said Todd, well said. The old games are best as the way they are. It should be the way it is. A lot of the things from fallout 4 and 76 and even starfield you would only get it if you have played fallout 2 or jagged alliance 2 and such. like in fallout 1, because there wasn't a 'push' button to push away your NPC followers who blocks your way, I lost my entire end game save because one of my guy blocks the way in between me and the master, I don't want to kill the NPC, and my last save was like 2 or 3 hours of progress before that point. Only when you understand this and played new vegas, fallout 4, starfield you will realize, alright, the line of product will always have this issue. That's why before I even pre-ordered starfield, I know exactly what I'm walking into. those kids who compare star citizen with starfield don't even have an idea of what is a RPG and what is a simulator. Classics should always be the way they were. They were designed based on old tech and old hardware, they were optimised in a way under certain condition. experience THAT was part of the game.

Fallout 2, Ufo : Enemy Unknown and River Ride on Commodore 64. 3 best games ever... for me, ofc.

I wouldn't be opposed to a remaster with improved controls and AI like the Crash N Sane Trilogy but what I'd really like would be to get a new classic style Fallout game, that'd be cool.

TLDR; They don't wanna remake games that show that the Bethesda-era games are inferior.

What Bethesda should do is demake Fallout 3 and give us the Van Buren Project.

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I wish we could get a new Fallout Tactics game. Or as someone said ports on modern consoles.

We are getting remake mods of Fallout and Fallout 2

I would at least like them on console. I’ve been playing Atom RPG on my PS5, it has me wanting that actual Fallout experience

Honestly I would like it if they simply got face lift and nothing more especially after I saw a fan picture of isometric Fallout New Vegas

I think they shouldn't remaster the OGs. But that fallout 3 remaster would be cool, once the modders scrub the bugs from it

Todd said the same thing when asked about Morrowind. A new isometric Fallout would be dope.

Now CRPGs are seen as commercially viable and Microsoft owns Bethesda, im kinda hoping they share the IP with someone and we get a new fallout that is more like the old fallout games

What it NEEDS is a port to modern consoles

I'd love an Enhanced Edition for Fallout 1 & 2. Similar to what Baldurs Gate 1 & 2 and Planescape Torment got.