Should have won 20 if Braden Looper as a closer and bullpen wasn't terrible

@@eli2times423 great point, agree with you on that. Bullpen was horrendous.

@@peterhilaire875 100 %

It was nice to see him settle down after 2004. Too bad he was never quite this good again, on paper, though post-2005 Pedro generally had advanced Maddux-like technique as a pitcher. The problem is that he was on a tightrope… he made batters look ridiculous almost every game… but when he missed his spots you’d be looking at more home runs.

he should have won 20+ plus games and the cy young in 2005. But that bullpen in 2005 for the Mets was HORRIBLE.

Was just thinking this too listening to some of their interviews, especially ones where they absolutely grill the guest. Always respectful but did not pull any punches whatsoever. We will never see a show like this again.

it's not a disaster, times change.

​@@sillygoose635 folks aren't a fan of change

This was such a great intro to New York

Uncle charlie

No, he brought nigga behavior to the game. Something we don't need.

Beltran struck out looking my heart sank

Thanks bro

I mean, if I had to make the prediction here before the start of the 2005 season, I would have guessed Pavano as well. But Pavano just had tons of injuries for a non-strikeout-pitcher

Pavano was the worst

I agree. Icons like that NEED to stay and retire with the team that they peaked with. As a Mets fan (and Yankee hater) I loved when he came to the Mets bc it was almost like he was taunting their fans. Minor stuff but the drama within the drama in sports is what makes it so entertaining.

Agreed. Die hard Yankee fan here, one of the best pitchers of all time. Dude was lights out for over a decade. I hated him til he tossed Don Zimmer by his bald head!

@@topspot4834 no one asked for your opinion lol

He was done as an ace, in 2003 and 2004 every time he threw his 100th pitch of the night he would instantly lose his effectiveness, especially against the Yankees. It wasn’t just game 7 in 2003 (where most people put the blame on Grady Little) but also game 2 in 2004 (gave up a line drive homer to John Olerud that proved the difference) and game 5 in 2004 (gave up a 3 RBI double to Jeter that blew the lead, forcing the Red Sox to rely on Ortiz extra-inning heroics for a second straight night). With the ongoing “war” against the Yankees at the time, there was no place for a no-longer-ace Pedro (although I’m not sure Wade Miller, Matt Clement, or an ancient David Wells were the answers).

It's weird in retrospect. You are on the money because past 05 (early in the year) he was not the same Pedro. But that perception totally changed.

Beltran wanted to go to the Yankees, since he grew up a Bernie Williams fan and he was gonna replace Bernie in Centerfield, AND if Beltran signed with the Yankees, then Beltran was gonna get paid alot without the responsibility of being the main guy in the lineup since he wont be making the most of all the players of the Yankees

@@hmhm856and he eventually ended up being a Yankee too

Only players that should get big contracts in all of sports are players that perform at a high level AND they have to sell as well (meaning, people buy their jerseys, pay tickets to see them play, turn on the TV/internet to see them play). In today's world, I see players across all sports getting insane huge contracts, players that I have never even heard of, players that are role players

He was fun. He brought life to Shea after their disappointing and dull 2002-2003-2004 seasons

Agreed! The ESPN model doesn’t and never will work in New York.

Benigno will be missed just like mike

What?! Joe beningo is/was great

Now we are stuck with Maggie gray and moose

@@plushieuploads5747 sexism

This was right after Pedro signed with the Mets in 2005.

@@DiamondConversations8 2004!

@@travelingman5146 Pedro signed with the Mets in mid-December 2004, so this was December 2004 or January 2005

Steroids are a hell of a drug

It is insane just how good Roger Clemens career stats are.. his best season was in his 40’s

@@jah2827 I think his best was in his mid to late 20s but he was definitely excellent in his 40s too

Roid monster 🤣🤣

koufax postseason ERA: 0.95. clemens postseason ERA: 3.75. and koufax did it without steroids.

Yeah didn't Beltran lose the NLCS looking at strike 3?

Well, technically, the Mets didnt get Delgado (he went to the Marlins). Delgado was interested in going to the Mets, but he didnt like the way the Mets pursued him. Then the Marlins did the fire sale after the 2005 season and he got traded to the Mets

To be fair, both Pavano and Wright were coming off nice seasons in 2004 with the Marlins and Braves, and they had nice stuff. I dont blame the Yankees for signing them after the 2004 season. But they just had horrible luck with injuries. With that said, I loved the Pavano signing, since I liked his stuff. But I was suspect when they signed Wright, since I wonder how he would do in the pitcher-friendly stadiums of the AL East Pavano is a pitcher that could have given you 7 innings with 2-3 runs per game all games in the AL East, but he just got injured

​@@hmhm856 I thought Pavano was a more sure thing as well since he had been a good young pitcher up until that point. However, despite having a good rookie campaign in 1997 which included some great playoff starts, Jaret Wright spent the next FIVE seasons either being mediocre or just flat out bad. Even after the good year he had in 2004, there were still serious doubts about his consistency and ability to stay on the field which both ended up biting the Yanks in the ass.

Pavano was coming off a 2003 WS title with the Marlins, and a very nice 2004 season. Pavano was a nice signing for the Yankees on paper, but it just didnt work out due to all those injuries.