Classic Steinitz & Marshall Games | Kids' Class

Classic Steinitz & Marshall Games | Kids' Class - Ben Finegold

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7 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold shows two historical games from at least a century ago. See one of Steinitz's best at Hastings 1895 and the "Gold Coins Game" from Frank Marshall.
2016.12.11
Wilhelm Steinitz vs Curt von Bardeleben, Hastings (1895): C54 Giuoco Piano, Greco's attack
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Stefan Levitsky vs Frank James Marshall, 18th DSB Kongress (1912): C10 French, Marshall variation
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@eliask5867 7 жыл бұрын

Ben is just the best with his jokes and everything. I love his videos!

@sidneyfife2114 7 жыл бұрын

There's something wrong with the audio. I keep hearing finegold saying he's getting married. According to his own advice, "never make the same mistake twice." He's instead going for the triple crown.

@benjaminmiddaugh2729 5 жыл бұрын

I believe he married different people, making them different mistakes.

@12jswilson Жыл бұрын

"Always make the same mistake twice." ~a very wise kid

@Lennartguitar 7 жыл бұрын

I like the old games. They were not playing perfectly back then but those games offer some great attacking ideas and sacrifices. For somebody of my level that's something I can relate more to then the super high level games nowadays. Great lecture!

@vivianrousseau886 3 жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised but even super GMs feel this way, Bobby Fischer famously hated when it became more common for people to start memorizing lines and disliked theory

@Proculopsis 7 жыл бұрын

At 7:12 - GM Ben "... but C6 is more bad", followed by a kid's awesome grammatical correction "Worse"! Ben is the best - you need a Twitch Channel so you can humiliate a wider audience, in the nicest possible way, that is.

@Proculopsis 4 жыл бұрын

I know and he said he wasn't interested in Twitch

@VSHEGDE1947 2 жыл бұрын

@@Proculopsis he has a twitch now

@philofblood855 7 жыл бұрын

i would pay for this to come more frequent

@srcoolz 7 жыл бұрын

"Capablanca took his mic and dropped it".... really good to have GM Ben back :)

@vancebocas7626 6 жыл бұрын

Capablanca was so good he took Marshall's mic and dropped it. That's awesome Ben, just awesome. XD. lol.

@Lovuschka 7 жыл бұрын

True story. I watched one Ben Finegold video for the chess, now I watch the rest for the comedy. Too bad only chess enthusiasts would understand some comedy, so we won't probably see a full comedy tour anytime soon. But with his stature, Ben Finegold would stand out physically in the comedy scene like for example Gallagher did.

@anesmarzouki 7 жыл бұрын

I am still recovering from the previous kid's video ...best audience EVER!

@benselectionforcasting4172 7 жыл бұрын

wasn't as bad as I expected the one oclock class to be

@thefedefede98 7 жыл бұрын

It's incredible how he read my mind at 9.12

@bujarmurati3004 5 жыл бұрын

federico francavilla OMG the exact same thing just happened to me, even after reading your comment!I was like I wonder what he was thinking then forgot about it and then Ben kept saying knight f5 until I couldn't take it anymore and loudly said knife f5

@punkt646 7 жыл бұрын

Your comments are way to funny to focus on the lesson 😂😂😂

@SelfReflective 6 жыл бұрын

@14:30 Ben: "...cause if you take the Queen, I checkmate you!" Kid from the audience: "Ha-ha!" - ala Nelson from the Simpsons.

@elbay2 7 жыл бұрын

I almost chocked on my beer at the Capablanca joke!

@eubeculetz 7 жыл бұрын

25 mins? very suspicious

@alanwalk9084 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe the best chess lecture ever given... Finegold is a God!

@PoeCompany 7 жыл бұрын

RIP Carrie Fisher

@newtonheath92 7 жыл бұрын

haha i lol'd so hard at Hikaru Nakamura's sportmanship award

@Gastogh 6 жыл бұрын

"Capablanca took his mic and dropped it." lmao

@Ariking777 7 жыл бұрын

Ben's back!!!!

@Esotelien 5 жыл бұрын

24:55 Marshall did lose to Capablanca, but his WC match was actually with Lasker.

@fjklejgaie8275 6 жыл бұрын

16:48 "The Coward Award" These kids are savage

@petersmythe6484 7 жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to explanation behind this game.

@petersmythe6484 7 жыл бұрын

Was 6. ... d5 a losing move ultimately then? Because at 9. ... Be7 there is a double move by the bishop, loss of a tempo and either loose pieces or a king in the center that is where the exchange combination and winning position begin. I remember reading in Maurice Ashley's analysis of the game and wondering "what did Von Bardeleben do wrong", I am thinking it might have been that, plus remarkably accurate play from Steinitz. (7:05) Maurice Ashley mentioned Rad1, I can't remember it or even fully got it, but remember he seemed to think that was a pretty good move and maybe better. [Typed at 5:54 I hop I am remembering correctly.]

@sanchobanana3507 3 жыл бұрын

Allegedly he (von Bardeleben) left to prevent the crowd from applauding, but not because of the reasons you might think. As there where still other games being played, a loud applause would have been an annoyance to the other participants, and so he wanted to prevent this from happening. At least that’s what my boy agadmator claimed after some research

@metalzonemt-2 7 жыл бұрын

Always play Qc3.

@michaelbaker9347 4 жыл бұрын

Qg3? someone needs to check him for having a computer on him. that's such a crazy move, especially for the time period

@Cupidd52 7 жыл бұрын

Marshall got crushed by Lasker in 1907. I'm sure Capa would have punched his ticket, but he was probably too old to get a sponsor by then.

@anonvideo738 Жыл бұрын

Marshall and Capablanca played against eachother in a series of matches for the US title. Capa won but in the end Marshall still became US champion because Capa was Cuban. To be fair, Marshall did vouch for him to get into the 1911 San Sebastian tournament, despite Capa not having the required wins.

@duckyown 7 жыл бұрын

At 21:08 forks also the pawn on h2

@owenslubo9243 7 жыл бұрын

what is he referring to with the " Hikaru good sportsman award?"

@Scy 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe that Hikaru may be the sorest loser of all time?

@jasondoe2596 7 жыл бұрын

Scy: Nah, that was probably Viktor Korchnoi :P But I wonder whether Ben refers to some specific incident...

@bonerici 7 жыл бұрын

I can't say for certain but in the ultimate blitz challenge 2016 in St Louis Nakamura saw Garry Kasparov pick up a piece, put it down again then look at the arbiter, look at Nakamura and then made an entirely different move. Nakamura didn't say anything but sort of let it go because I mean he's Garry Kasparov right? But a week earlier, Nakamura had used both hands to castle (against FIDE rules but allowed in USCF chess), and he had touched his rook first while castling. His opponent called the arbiter and the arbiter allowed Nakamura to castle anyway. The correct ruling should have been to force Nakamura to move his rook. So in once instance Nakamura played a completely illegal move and eventually won the game and in another instance, Nakamura allowed Garry Kasparov to cheat. I can't say why Ben Finegold said Nakamura should get the Hikaru good sportsmanship award, I swear most of his jokes just fly above my head like machine gun bullets. So, yeah I don't know. But if I had to guess it would be one of those. I can't even tell if Ben is being sarcastic (for getting away with touching the rook) or genuine (for letting Kasparov take a move back).

@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын

Candidates 2016 against Aronian :)

@bonerici 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was funny naka touched his king and then said jdoub only moved it after the arbiter forced him. maybe that's it?

@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын

90K SUBS!!!!

@pietropiras9430 7 жыл бұрын

What program is used for these lections?

@LikesNesTea 7 жыл бұрын

Pietro Piras Chessbase, I think Chessbase 13

@davidq.1321 7 жыл бұрын

houdini

@moriatyalpha 5 жыл бұрын

do you know why they had cains? because they were abel

@JS-tm1gq 5 жыл бұрын

Michael muleba worst joke I ever heard in my life.

@kozmosnotgay 6 жыл бұрын

@17:33 would QxH7 be winning for black? If knightxH7, black has cRookxc1 with mate. Anyone?

@vancebocas7626 6 жыл бұрын

After Qxh7, it's not Nxh7, but Rxc8+ Rxc8; Qxc8+ Kg7; Qd7+ and winning Black's queen when the King moves.

@nicanornunez9787 4 жыл бұрын

1912 first mic drop

@blinkers88 7 жыл бұрын

No whistling

@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын

0:45 LOL Lasker was for 27 years 'give or take'

@ravirajkolakaleti2813 7 жыл бұрын

What if Nxh7 on move 21 white

@Hornbaek 7 жыл бұрын

I love those lectures. Just too bad many of them are made for children. They disrupt the lecture.

@StealthyLiving 6 жыл бұрын

Cain was the first person with constipation, he wasn't Abel.

@lukacalov1988 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha most of them took a mule

@carlislenightingale8853 7 жыл бұрын

will this really be featured in the next star wars movie ?

@johnstephen399 7 жыл бұрын

Come on Ben, everybody knows the best move ever is Shirov's Bh3. :3

@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын

12:35 Nh7!! lol

@MrDarrenlobo2112 7 жыл бұрын

Ben, you should become a comedian, you'll make a lot of dough!

@Lysergesaure1 5 жыл бұрын

No talking!

@blueromeo1974 7 жыл бұрын

I won the Hikaru sports man award....lol

@RobsMiscellania 7 жыл бұрын

I would say I'm surprised but the chess world is filled with some very suspicious characters. In the final round of the 2016 US Open on August 7, after conducting a ridiculous attack against my opponent's king, he hung his a8 rook on the next move, and instead of resigning, we just sat there and he let his time run out. Not resigning is fine, I'm not offended by that (although a lot of snot-nosed shitheads in the chess world are, reinforcing my point about very suspicious characters). It was just very insulting for us to sit there for the remainder of the really long time control as we stared at a really really lost position so that he could lose on time, like we do on chess.com. It was all good in the end, because that game won me the 1st place class prize of $1200. But yeah, that's kid's behavior was very suspicious anyway.

@AgentSmith911 7 жыл бұрын

I've played kids who snuck pieces back on the board while playing. Never trust your opponent in an OTB.

@bonerici 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It's unfortunate but chess is at heart an anti-social game. If you are into multi player games like bridge or even trading card games, the players generally have to be nice to each other or you just get blocked and nobody will play with you. Chess you can be as evil as you like, as long as it within the rules you can do it. I find that the higher rated players, masters and above tend to be nicer. The reason being once you get to master you realize just how much you suck just how bad you are at chess and how many people are so much better than you. When you are a bad club player you think, "Oh they got lucky because I dropped a rook, so lucky, I was going to beat them" stuff like that and aren't smart enough to even understand just how bad they are and what is more, how unlikely it is that they will ever get better. It is only when you get to be a master that you really understand how much stronger a grandmaster really is than a club player.

@RobsMiscellania 7 жыл бұрын

The game was Kline vs Wang: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Be3 Qf6 6. c3 Ne7 7. Be2 Ng6 8. Nf5 Bxe3 9. Nxe3 Nce5 10. Nd2 Nf4 11. 0-0 0-0 12. Nf3 Nxe2 13. Qxe2 Nxf3 14. gxf3 d6 15. Kh1 Be6 16. Rg1 Re8 17. Ng2 Bh3 18. Ne3 Be6 19. Rg3 a6 20. c4 Qe5 21. Rag1 g6 22. Nd5 Bxd5 23. cxd5 Qxd5 24. h4 Qh5 25. Rh3 h6 26. Qc4 c6 27. Rxg6 Kf8 28. Rxd6 a5 29. Qb3 Qc5 30. Rd2 Qc1 31. Rd1 Qf4 32. Rd7 Qc1 33. Kg2 Re7 34. Rxe7 1-0 Black lost on time. White wins.

@SelfReflective 6 жыл бұрын

Terrible. And very suspicious. Also, white wins, with advantage.