8:08 races 11:10 leveling 12:40 rotation, opener (questing) 14:05 leveling speed, comparison with other classes 15:50, 19:20 leveling build 17:40 frontstabing 19:30 one of the best ability in the game to tag the mob 25:10 items from quest or while leveling 31:30 priority things when u reach lvl 60 32:45 to do list for hardcore player lvl 60 38:40 how much time need to get pre raid bis 41:00 raiding builds for MC, 43:42 BWL, AQ 46:50 49:30 pre raid BIS 56:50 professions 59:00 continue of pre raid BIS 1:1:10 consumables and 1:13:05 farming consumables 1:21:40 addons 1:30:39 MC Lucifron tips, mechanics 1:38:15 unfortunately, lmgd does not want to go deep into the mechanics of combat, although I expected such things and subtleties from this video with one of the best rogues in the world, and not a discussion of 1.5 hours of information, which is so easy can be found in the guides. This claim is of course more to the interviewer, what he decided to spend time on and how to structure everything 1:40:30 Q&A 1:43:30 spell batching 1:46:50 when do u replace a devilsaur set? 1:47:50 seal fate build after AQ 1:48:40 type down, procs 1:49:34 favorable matchup as a rogue 1v1 1:50:34 attributes for a raid leader 1:52:18 stone form or escape artist for pvp 1:53:14 values and scripts from private servers are eschewing the real difficulty of vanilla 1:56:10 rogues and thunderfury 1:57:52 cadaverous set 1:59:17 ret paladins in raid

I just want to say that I love the in depth discussion of all the many details of playing these classes, thanks for such excellent content!

So incredible. I did naxx as a rogue and I learned quite few new things here. This was great. The shadow spell dps was new to me. Lucifron breakdown was exceptional. Didn't know it could be that technical.ty!

Awesome insight buddy ! Helped me alot to prepare for my Vanilla Rogue .

Amazing Show. Thanks Guys!

This series is incredible, thanks again and again tips

I am loving this, keep up the content creation!

Definitely one of your best guests, incredibly informative and friendly. I tip my hat to you, Tips.

This was awesome, Thank you.

I feel him there, I started in range DPS, later went Melee DPS and Tank, now I mainly heal, but still enjoy some damage or tanking. All roles and classes are great and should be tried out ;)

love these deep dives

I've leveled as a Hemo rogue a few times, play well and you have extremely little downtime. Also for most mobs you can kill them quite fast. The biggest gearpiece to upgrade frequently is your weapons (du'h?). You have your cooldowns ready in any situation where you may need them, pretty good control for multi-target encounters when you need to deal with that. Vs single target you're pretty badass at chaining kills. I would put rogue leveling above warriors. You also have the massive advantage of stealth for skipping both inconvenient encounters and to dodge gankers. If you keep your weapon up to date encounters should generally be fast and you take very little damage. If you get a good dagger for your level you might even spend some time using Ambush as your opener on squishy enemies.

Good choice of thumbnail :) random and fun to see my old illustration in the youtube feed.

Pre weapon-speed standardization get barman shanker + scarlet kris, or perdition blade or alike for weapons. Post standardization just any higher dps weapon with appropriate gear will do. For pvp get 21/8/22. For pve, just get smth combat with either weapon spec and the accompanied weapons. Get hit > ap > crit/agi > str or whatever they have predetermined as BiS.

Please make more of these!

This was absolutely insane

Best content on YT! Waiting for Rogue PVP deep dive! Instant Sub+ man :)

Enjoyable 2 hours , can't wait for part 2 dive in PvP. I would like to see LMGD talk about getting Grand Marshal title.

Sorry I keep commenting.. but had to say: great interview, I learned a lot and I had a lot of fun watching this.

This is really good information. Much mkre than other guides around. Even if you say "gotcha" around 50 times, somehow you need to make clear that you understood his depth nerd knowledge. I really enjoyed this. There was only one good laugh I had. "get these dal'rend, their not that hard to get".

When I got it, Cheapshot/Gouge out of Stealth got Slice/Dice up, then it was sinister-eviscerate to burn the mob down. I pick-pocketed them first as well, if possible. Sinister strike is yellow damage, it is part of batching..... Pickpocket got me junk boxes for lockpick and the thieve's guild rep.

Really loving the professionalism of your content. Sub'd

Nice! Can't wait for the priest deep-dive

Hey man, I loved your videos and watched more than a few before classic came out. Miss hearing what you have to say. 😪 Wherever you are, I hope you're well and still having fun with vanilla. I know I am. Really enjoying double-sword Rogue. 😊

Awesome dive tips. Would love to see Paladin next if possible!

Priest deep dive next please! Show the healers some love

2023 and I'm watching a tips out deep dive. It's now clear where the heroin is kept in wow.

Insanely in-depth details on playing PvE rogue to the max, can't wait for the PvP edition ;)

Thanks for doing these tips. Since I already watched this I cba to do timestamps but they'd really help and I may do them for the next one or ones that haven't been done. Great work, keep it up

Such a good Video!

really good content!!

Thanks a lot for this

This is a great series! Can we get more episodes and updates on older ones?? Me and some friends just started playing again and these are great!

17:52 "What is frontstabbing?" "It's like... backstabbing a mob but... from the front." "So it's like you're in front... but you can backstab them?" "Yeah." "I gotchu I gotchu absolutely"

My main class from 10+ years. World of Roguecraft FTW. ♥

"If you are ahead of the zerg, you can go improved sprint. If you're behind, better to go for the parry chance first. So, 5 points into deflection.."

Yeah dude. CLASSIC FOREVER!

This guide is absolutely insane. Next guests for the pvp deep dive: the ooga gang?

thanks for this been meaning to play a nelf rogue in classic :)

Great video! Please do for the mage soon!

wow! you ask great questions dude

Just finished watching it all. Damn, I wasn't expecting to learn so much. I picked up 5 or 6 useful things from this. Thanks Tips, so awesome you were able to do this, as well as thanks LMGD. Btw, any chance we can get that link to the consumables you mentioned?

absolutely absolutely

Just incredible !! Only default is the dagger pov that isn't taken in consideration, while super good. I'd have love to hear if there were differences about stats priority (crit / hit) or pre raid bis items (elementals card / hand of justice, etc) and if there is any particular mentality set change from sword, like would you still wait for an attack to happen before using your backstab ? Or is it less important ? Do you go for eviscerate less, stuff like that ! But overall really great, ty, appreciated it :)

Great video tips, any chance you could a similar in depth video for classic Warlock? Thank you.

On launch into about 6hrs you wont find mobs for any early quest. Get your buddies and skip 4+ levels ahead and grind, once players reach you, move 2+ ahead until you're so far ahead the server then DC's and you seep.

tips mage deep-dive next great series!

In regards to weapon milestones that they touch upon around minute 25:00 : Thrash Blade is a reward from a Maraudon quest and according to current patch release plans, Maraudon will not be released upon launch. Thus no Thrash Blade. Here are some other weapon milestones for alliance: Cruel Barb @ lvl 19 from Deadmines Electrocutioner Leg (superfast OH) @ lvl 29 from Gnomeregan Sword of Serenity (to go with Vanquisher's Sword) @ around lvl 38 from SM quest

speaking as someone who's tried the seal fate spec in pve after bieng Naxx geared, and sword spec always performed a little better for me. however i had more fun playing seal fate.

You are a great host.

Can you post the consumeable list that Lmgd made? Cant find it in the description but could be nice to have :). Great vid tho, watched over an hour of it.

You should do pvp derp dives. Get mn back on and talk strats vs other classes what he looks for what his anticipations are, etc. And do for all classes as well.

On the seal fate spec... I never tried it, but I played with a talented rogue on Nost/Elysium that tried it in AQ40/Naxx gear. He was new to the spec (obviously) but did a little less dps than he normally would in a normal Naxx raid at the time. But we agreed that the seal fate spec is not viable in AQ gear alone.

Interesting point, make a mc raid when you are in BWL /AQ gear and just Master loot for TF, would be an easy clear also

Tips, can you do one of these for the Paladin class with your boy esfand and maybe a strong Holy spec PvP pro? Keep up the ABSOLUTELY INSANE content. 😂👌

we had a rogue with thunderfury and he stopped using it because he pulled aggro all the time and mobs killed him cause the aoe from the weapon. Also it was a main hand from what i remember.

I've started playing rogue back in vanilla and now i'm playing mage on classic, exactly like LMGD felt ya

Rogue talk starts at 07:30 Also - I gotchu, I gotchu

absolulyabsoluly

Glad I seen you on the asmongold reacts, I really enjoy your videos well worth the sub

2 hours? thats really a deep dive ;) time stamps would be nice :)

Great video, makes me want to play Rogue again. lmao

There is no front stabbing in Classic. There is no hamstring kiting in Classic. Spell batching will be in Classic. Dire Maul and World Bosses will be in Phase 2 (per Blue post on March 11th)

Dude this is perfect! But do you have the link for the build to share on KZfaq? Thanks!

FINALLY THE ROGUE!!!!! YUS this is what I am going to in classic as I never play rogue lol

Where can I find the Consumables List and other links you said you were going to post?

This video is a gold mine, thanks tipsout. Im planning on rolling a human rogue, and Will surely use alot of the info i got from this video.

Raiding ICC with an orc rogue was fun as hell 👍😎

Do a deep dive druid next please! :D

What a video, Tips! Awesome. Would you be able to post those links in the description please?

isn't this a reupload? what happened to the video from months ago?

1:15:18 So with all the consumables and the trinkets he mentions, will rogues be wearing spellpower gear with all possible buffs?? Or is it just like enchants and the trinkets with pre bis gear?

hey. how do i make a macro so i can vanish, then sap without a global cool down like perplexity does. please let me know!

i have a question, do rogues use poisions while leveling? is it worth to do the quest line for the poisions while leveling or should be done at lvl 60?

why should we stack so much hit? isn't the yellow hit cap at 9% with 300 weapon skill? i don't get it... please explain.

My first main... Wallah, Male Troll Rogue. Full MC purps, 1 shotting alliance in AV lol.

Can you do Paladin next? maybe get ahold of Zalgradis?

please do another deep dive on mages

TIPSSSS CMONNNN

did we get the pvp deep dive video yet?

So in The Raid blackwinglayer , i Skill improved backstab , so i need to Take a dagger Into My Main hand and My sword to off hand , why dont Put Skillpoints in dagger specialization to get a Higher crit chances in The Combat tree and why do i Take dual wield? Why i don't use 2 daggers instead of 1 dagger in mainhand to backstab and offhand a sword? I watched some other Guides too but i cant get The answer by myself , 45:00

If you're looking for someone to do Druid Deep Dive I'd like to forward your attention to Shedo. Not sure if he's interested in doing the podcast but woth an ask :)

For those planning to go over 24 hours on day one keep a couple things in mind: there have been recorded cases of people having strokes and heart attacks from staying up 48 hours straight. If you're in your teens to mid 20s with a strong heart not surrounded by fat you can probably get away with 48 hours. But please be careful and dont put yourself in danger over a video game. On top of that legislators are focusing on video games way more than back in '04, made evident by loot box laws. Please dont be the guy who dies in 2019 from not eating, sleeping, or using the bathroom, because you may inspire some idiot politician to push a bullshit law. Have fun, but know your limits and be safe.

Dedicated life to game that isn't even out yet :OXD:D

from what i heard DM should NOT available at launch

And yes do a rogue pvp deep dive

Please do Mage anytime soon!!

Honestly watching/listening to this has me wanting to go Rogue instead of Warrior at launch of Classic, even though I've been set on Warr for so long

@tips out i'd be interested in making Supermacro for tagging how do i do it?

Me as I played them a lot in classic

Can someone explain to me like I’m 5 years old the breakdown of the fight he spoke about. And getting 3 Evis off in the 15 seconds. I’ve just tried on different servers and can’t seem to get it.

Because we're playing on the legion patch there will be no way to frontstab mobs.

I was just wondering where the screen shots of the spreadsheet pages are? I assume there's stuff on the spreadsheet he doesn't want to give away.

what addon are you using shows some buttons in a circle?

Leveling a rogue right now. You absolutely do not 4 shot things with sinister strike. You either get 2 off and kill the monster auto attacking while you wait on energy, leaving you with 2 combo pts on a dead enemy. Or if you fight something for long enough to get 5 combo pts, you died anyway.

@ 22:28 he probably meant the talent Endurance, right? for more frequent sprints and evasion.. i guess..right?..right?

fun fact, felstriker way back was named deathstriker

why not post the gearlist link here?

This guy... I would love to watch his Warlock in action doing battle, he must kick a_s!!!

Leveling as sub rogue My fastest rotation is Ambush (85% crit chance)- Gouge - Backstab - Ghostly Strike - 5pt Evis = Dead