Hi guys, I hope you enjoyed the video! This guide is a living document - please help contribute to improve it so it can be the best possible resource for the community using the link below: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xGaP9deJ32zkKjpMZ_-VE7Bp7i3Bq_IjPHFWqNHJ7Bc/edit?usp=sharing Also, if you are interested in watching me speedrun on the Classic demo follow me on: twitch.tv/kargozgaming

Time stamps for the video: 0:00 Introduction 1:07 Pros and cons of Warlock leveling 2:09 Class overview 3:14 Before you start 4:29 Useful things to keep in mind 5:26 Macros 8:01 Life 1-10 9:30 Talent progression (10:27/14:32/14:44/15:49) 16:54 Life 10-20 19:14 Life 20-30 20:06 Life 30-40 20:52 Life 40+ 21:58 1.12 Attributes + stat values 22:46 Alliance wand progression (Smoldering wand not included) 24:21 Horde wand progression 25:03 Class quests 25:43 Closing thoughts

Sir, you're a content machine ! The quality in these is ridiculous, really enjoying them. Thanks man

I love the way you end these videos with just a quiet shot from some zone. Gives it a really nice touch :)

Love the vids, seriously - great stuff! On the other hand, I'm conflicted. The more I watch, the more I get hyped for the release. But the more I watch, the more I remember, which leeches a bit of the fun of re-discovering things (if that makes any sense) Keep up the great work!

Using wands is such a huge game changer

Do not skip curse of recklessness!!! If you fear a mob and it's running to aggro mobs you don't want you slap it with CoR and it will come back to you. Then you slap coa back up and it will start getting feared in a new direction..

Really like your guides man. I've made a few for the rogue community. And I know you've poured a ton of yourself into these guides in order to get them going. I also like how consistent your info is especially collaborating with people that know their class inside and out and then offering it to the community. Liked and subscribed.

the only thin i would add to these guides is quickly go over the hit chance you would want to get for each class and for each build. other then that best guides ever

The enchanted gold bloodrobe, in addition to being great right up to the low 50s, had one other big selling point: visually it was a perfect match for Whitemane’s Chapeau. Those two items were like the official uniform of an up and coming mid-range lock back in the day.

I found improved voidwalker extremely op when leveling. I recommend getting this ASAP after instant corruption. You won't be able to pull agro on single targets, multi target threat is higher, and sacrifice is just OP^2. The dps you lose is more than made up for by the better threat and survivability. Leveling is faster. Good video!

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Really appreciate all the hardwork and leg work you did to help people get started. Good Luck today in Classic!

I'm really excited for Vanilla to come. Your amazing guides will blow up. I've been thinking about what class to pick and this has helped me a lot to understand each class. Keep going, you rock. :)

The quality of your productions are amazing, keep it going ;)

What a lot of guys forget is that Vanilla WoW was probably most peoples 1st mmorpg and the competitive mindset of min/making, bis items, knowing the meta mindset etc came from private servers/moba games/online competitive scene of gaming. Having the private server mentality of knowing everything, following a certain pattern will affect the true original vanilla experience. For example now when I play online games be it mmorpgs or mobas I always learn the meta and the competitive side of the game firstly. This mindset didnt exist before because it was all about the unknown, forging your own adventure and learning on the way not knowing everything which created a lot of adventurous memories, the true vanilla experience was before the competitive side of mmorpgs/mobas/online gaming in general came into play or when meta awareness wasn't a thing at all. I'm not saying it is the right way to play because you cant go back in time and reverse and erase memory but the true vanilla experience is not just about "no changes" it is also about the innocence of a child stepping into a world not knowing anything about wow/online gaming/competitive gaming/meta game & stepping into the unknown! Im so freaking hyped for classic cya there guys we're going home! :'-) !

As a warlock main for years I was thoroughly happy to see you do a warlock guide next. Great job btw! I'd like to add a petmacro to the list: /script if UnitExists("target") then if a==0 then PetAttack(target) a=1 else if UnitExists("pettarget") and UnitIsUnit("target", "pettarget") then PetFollow("YourNameHere") a=0 else PetAttack(target) end;end; else PetFollow("YourNameHere") a=0 end; This will make your pet attack whatever target you have. And when pressed again will have it follow you. Very handy as you only need to use one keybind for it.

I appreciate the concise info, a lot in a small amount of time. Very useful for someone who hasn't played a lock much.

So cool that you upload 2 or more videos every day! Keep it up! :D

My god classic WoW needs to come out already.

the amount of detail u put into these videos, especially the class guides, is unreal dude keep it up theyre super helpful!

Appreciate your leveling guides! The trip back to vanilla has been fun and these guides have really been useful!

When you went through the talent tree part reminded me that I rolled the afflic/destro version

I'm almost totally new to WOW (had like a level 15 druid back in 2006) but always regretted not soaking in vanilla when it was available. So your videos are reaching not just veterans but some new folks too. Really quality content man.

A comprehensive guide to my favorite class by my favorite WoW KZfaqr? Sign me up.

Great guide, very informative and concise with a direct approach and no fluff in between the tips/info. Thanks for making this

WARLOCKS IN CLASSIC

Great video. So interesting to see the simplicity yet depth this game had at the beginning. Wish it could go back to this 😆

Dude, you’ve made an old warlock nostalgic, I appreciate that.

Excellent guide! I love that you put the wand part in there and where to get them. Its things like that that I appreciate, more of helpful hints than cookie cutter builds.

I am so excited for classic, Warlock will probably be my first toon to level up, for the reduced cost. Also probably taking Enchanting/Tailoring for easy costless profits. Back in original vanilla I was a clicker (was still new to computer gaming, had no idea what key binds were), didn't use any key binds, so I am stoked to see how much more efficient I can be now.

I remember in vanilla on the lock I levelled, when I got the tailor gear (shadow weave iirc) in the late 30's 40's, I respecced closely to that third spec with 3/3 drain life and just drain life tanked everything. Nigh unkillable in open world with so much sp at that level.

You have me so hyped for classic. I’ve watched this video twice. Wish I could upvote twice. Awesome video. You sound like you legitimately care about warlocks.

So thorough. Excellent work man. Thanks for all of this useful info!

Yours is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. I am getting more and more excited for Classic and your videos are helping me decide what I want to play (as well as providing extra hype). The production value is great, and I hope you do well. Why did your old guides get pulled?

Nice. I leveled my gnome warlock through vanilla with almost the same as his first build. But I never used macros back then...straight hardcore manual mode. Can’t wait to run a lock again.

you break down vanilla wow really well. Take it from a player who's played since 2004. Nice to bring it back

thanks man, havnt played in a decade, helped a lot lvl 17warlock atm

you put much effort into your videos you deserve a sub !

I'm looking forward to giving Wow another 10 years of my life.

Quality video, great stuff. Will definitely be using this guide when the official classic servers are up

Cheers for the refresher video! Always called the triangular trap something mechanically accurate, ping pong.

I have played Warlock almost exclusive. A few things that I think should be noted: PVP: Stuns should be cons or as at least considered as a major weakness. In pvp stuns will destroy most warlocks as you don't have a great counter to them unless you are an Orc. Past that you can be very good in PVP just a good rogue will always be a weakness. Raids and Dungeons: Warlocks are great because of their stamina in fights, but I would not classify their damage as great or even that good, especially without a shadow priest or regular heals, in raids that comes in TBC when they become the unstoppable shadow bolt machine. You don't even get a great AOE until TBC. Most of the time you will be managing your threat in raids and the utility they bring is more important (Curses, Hstones, Summoning, etc.). Many times you will be able to spike damage, which means you really have to watch threat sometimes, but not sustain it in raids. Going into Naxx is when you will start to shine some. Warlocks are probably the highest skill cap in Classic. You level extremely fast, but at 60 it becomes much harder to provide value outside of utility. Chance to hit is pretty much your most needed stat at 60. Warlock was a kitchen sink type class that always seemed like Blizzard didn't quite have a clear idea what it was early on other than a dot class. Dot classes are notorious for trying to balance in MMOs, so in many ways I think they were originally overtuned in some areas and undertuned in others. That is also a reason there are so many conflicting opinions about the best way to level and play the class. In Vanilla I had a warlock buddy in my raiding guild, and we would go back and forth over the best specs, etc. for this very reason, and it is still going on in many ways to this day. I just see a lot of hyping up warlocks these days, but just be warned there are some serious downsides to the class that I believe are getting majorly understated. Don't get me wrong I love the class beyond any other class but be for warned it is a messy rough class in Vanilla that didn't shine until The Burning Crusade with Shadow and Flame and SL/SL.

25 days boys. Thanks for the guide Kargoz. good content.

I used to be a mage class officer is a raiding guild back in the day if you ever need help. Can't wait for Classic, thank you so much for the nostalgia and the hype!

You're awesome! Thanks for making these! I'm getting nostalgic just from watching these :)

I'm currently working on an Orc Warlock speedrun path and strategy, using Joana's guide as a template and modifying it where needed. Got the starting zone down to a better time than Joana's record consistently and just finished optimizing durotar, basically until reaching XR. Do you know any people or a community interested in working on this as well? I think there is a great potential in warlock speed leveling and I'd love to bounce ideas off someone and ask more experienced players about things that I don't know for sure - such as, when should I expect crafted wands to appear on AH after the server launch and other intangible things that can be only learned from new server experiences. This guide is also helpful so thanks for the great work ;)

Watched both lock guides, would watch two more if you decide to make em 8)

Kargoz I love all your videos! So much work put in, so well put together, and fast and concise. I’ve watched so many, and now deciding on class to play for turtle wow I’ve watched a ton of your vids to help visualize how my playthrough and endgame will feel. I’ve played retail and private servers since vanilla and played every class a ton, but I’ve usually been rogue main. Almost wanted to do rogue again but as herb alchemy as I never have done that or gone human, but I also think I should do a least played class like warlock for me, or pally or mage hahaha… hard to decide.

After watching your hunter lvling guide, I subscribed! Nice quality of content sir! Thanks

amazing guide, please do warrior next - but also all the other classes : D

Warlock is the only class where I’ve consistently been at 20% heath and 20% mana and still going for more pulls.

When you pre like the video because you know it’s going to be quality content. Good stuff as always bro.

Another good wand not listed in the google doc is the Stingshot Wand 22.2 dps from the "Akira" quest in thousand needles for horde. its a sweet wand with nature damage and a cool light effect

A little gnome warlock with red pigtails (don’t judge, I was a 10 year old girl 😆) was my first wow character ever! She kicked some serious horde butt back in the day! :)

I like this format so much better then the old dude

Keep up with the Good work, loving your vids :) props from Portugal 🇵🇹

Love the video, thanks! The link to talents is broken though, I came looking for it specifically but great info I didn't know I needed :D

I personally disagree with macroing pet attack to your abilities. binding pet attack to a key is more effective, as you can pull with your pet that way, and it isn't running around from mob to mob when you're multi dotting. i bind attack, then DoT up. that way if I fear/dot another mob , my pet won't hit it and break it out of fear, or spend time running in circles between enemies .

tried the macros for recall pet whilst drainsoul is up. Got the error message "a macro script has been blocked...." etc any ideas guys. Great video btw

Hey man, just earned yourself a subscribe. You gave ALL the info I was interested in, and kept it really concise and quick. Thank you so much!!! Please make a mage guide

Amazing, gonna use this guide for WoW Classic next year. :)

Seeing how the macros don't work in the official version of Vanilla WoW will you be updating them?

Sorry, I'm not good with macros in WOW. Are you going to update them for Classic release/beta? I tried the Standalone Pet Send Macro and it just tells me it's blocked from the UI.

Your videos are just amazing, full of passion and hard work ! You are sharing so much, thank you for that !!

Some much content in this video. This rotation with the wand is so efficient. It blew me away home much of a difference it makes! Thank you!

Nice work! Love your guides

one small note for warlocks who want to be a bit more advanced from the jump, do not bake your pet attack into skills like he mentioned in the video. yes, it will get the job done but there will be times when you want your pet staying on 1 mob while you either dot or shadow bolt another mob or while you refresh dots on a mob that your pet already has aggro on. if you bake pet attack into an ability it's a lazy way to get the job done but you will ultimately notice that you are using globals and mana inefficiently just to move your pet around with these casts. find 2 binds that make sense to you for making your pet attack and return, i personally use mouse wheel up for attack and mouse wheel down to go passive but it's whatever works for you. if you're new you can bake it in like he said to get a grasp, but ultimately you will not want to keep it this way once you know what you're doing.

Never played a Warlock and I've been out of the game for years but Classic has pulled me back in.

Now THIS is a guide. Such a great resource. Well done!!

I feel like I'm at a briefing lol

ty for this. From Russia with love

Enjoy all your work on this, thanks

great quality... really liked your Mage and Warrior ones

Hello there Kargoz. The macros/scripts doesn't seem to be working? Any suggestion? -Love the guide btw

Really loving the videos!

I've spent the whole night watching classic/vanilla wow vids. Mulling over what to make for classic; I'm definitely going a warlock. Maybe orc for the wolfie mount and the stun resist. The first character I ever made in wow was an undead lock. Loved that character so much. Also...earned a sub ;P I will watch all your guides. Now I have to wait until classic comes out play. I hope it's very early next year. BTW - Have been off wow for 9 years, played preBC and BC.

Dammit! I thought I knew for sure I would play Priest in Classic, but now you are reminding me how much fun I had with Warlock in Vanilla/BC! :D I loved playing Affliction... dot dot dot! :D Warlock was the only class I was ever able to get the achievement for 20 kills without dying in Warsong Gulch, and one of the most fun for leveling and grinding. Yes, locks are a ton of fun, and highly useful for both damage and CC in dungeons/raids.

any chance you update this before launch?

PLEASE NOTE: YOU DO NOT NEED THE MENTION MACRO AT 6:10 WHETHER OR NOT YOUR OR YOUR PET GETS THE FINAL BLOW DOES NOT MATTER IMPROVED DRAIN SOUL WILL STILL PROC

This is super nice bro. Thanks I'm stoked about classic.

Can’t wait till this comes out. Got my self a full setup built and just sat there waiting till August

So I have a question for you Kargoz. I noticed you are preferring Orc over and Undead and I'm wondering why? Pure visual or do you actually believe that Orc>Undead if we min-max?

I don't get this, why skip the Succ and Felhunter quests? The succubus quest gives you a 12 slot soul bag and the Felhunter quest gives you a 16 slot soul bag, you yourself said that 20+ is when you use the advanced drain soul macro, why do you think it's 20+? Because that's when the Succubus quest unlocks! Sure they are a pain to do but at the end of the day you will be benefiting more in the long run by getting the soul bags. Yes, you can buy the 20 slot soul bag off the AH but on a fresh start server there won't be any because it requires a tailor to make one and if you are at the same level as the fastest leveller it will literally be impossible to get. Very strange that the supposed experienced Warlock players failed to mentioned this, I guess it must have slipped their minds...

Can you please do an in depth explanation of the rogue poisons and ravenhold/si quest - reputation. I'm debating on either playing an Undead Warlock or a Dwarf Rogue and I'd appreciate the above points being touched on.

Ready for my Warlock THANKS!

The guides are the best vanilla clas guides i have ever seen. pls do mage next.

getting a message saying "a macro script has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI."

youve really been helping me pump up classic wow brother. subscription has been canceled since the day after i hit 120 in BFA just waiting for the classic experience to take me home.

Great content, 100K+ sub channel in the future. I’m 50/50 on warlock or warrior. I love the utility of warlock and the feeling of being “needed”

1) Improved Soul drain gives you really really small amount of mana if you actually bother to calculate the benefit, like actual numbers. It also stops mana regeneration from your wanding. Add to this the mana cost of Drain Soul rank 1 and you will realize that you get such a miserable benefit from it, that it's just not worth casting. 2) I also disagree with rotation, it should be Curse of Agony, Corruption and may be Immolate, not the other way around. My way you won't be left with only Curse of Agony on the target while immolate is long gone. Moreover CoA and Corruption first, allows your pet time to get initial aggro. 3) Nightfall is good for pvp, but not so much for leveling, Shadowbolt is increadibly wastful on mana, add to that 5 second rule that you violate by interrupting you wanding, and you will find yourself sitting and draining water. Warlock should never sit down and drink water, if you do, you are doing something wrong.

Is starting with immolate really that good, it does have that initial damage after all. I personally liked putting it last, when VW has some aggro already, or avoid it at all sometimes. Just personal preference. Great guide man.

What makes me happy is these spec ideas where already in my head reading the talent tree. Feel like I have done good at being a warlock. Can't wait to be able to start classic.

I love how really exited he is every leveling guide

/script isnt allowed in classic, all the macros needs to be redone

“Nutty”

Was going to give the official Classic a try when I wasn't playing live already but, your videos have made me feel a decent amount of hype to juggle both versions 😄

Definateley my go to guide thank you Kargoz for your hard work!

11:05 Man this is getting intense

Hello Kargoz! I like your leveling guides and I think that they are clearly above average considering other vanilla guilde content on KZfaq. I'd like to point out two things about the talent builds you show: 1. I dislike how your kind of brush over the significance of lifetap talent. Lifetap is an ability you very well might use more the once / mob you pull. Some of the builds you show does not go directly into 2/2 lifetap and I have to disagree with that. 7 Points spent into Affliction and 2/2 lifetap aligns perfectly with Lifetap rank 2 that you learn at level 16 - not going for this is highly dubious. 2. This is more of a special case. But on a fresh server, if you level with a Group, you may want to take Supression over Corruption. Due to how overpopulated the starting zones are its a common strategy to go outside of the startzone and defeat higher level mobs as a Group - "raiding" level 16 mobs with a level 12 party etc... If you are leveling on fresh and find yourself ending up in this scenario it is highly viable to get Supression so that your Corruption and Agony actually land.

Awwwwwwsome! Thanks so much for this quality guide! NOW I can be a good warlock :)