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Great Composers: Arnold Schoenberg

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Classical Nerd

Classical Nerd

6 жыл бұрын

A look at the "Emancipator of Dissonance."
This was a viewer request from KZfaqrs Eric Rakestraw and marcus aurelius. See the current request queue at lentovivace.com/requestqueue.html.
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Classical Nerd is a weekly video series covering music history, theoretical concepts, and techniques, hosted by composer, pianist, and music history aficionado Thomas Little.
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Music:
- Arnold Schoenberg: Verklärte Nacht, Op. 4, performed by members of the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/y8ekndzn
- Thomas Little: Dance! #2 in E minor, Op. 1 No. 2, performed by Rachel Fellows, Michael King, and Bruce Tippette
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@alexbrockwell8158
@alexbrockwell8158 6 жыл бұрын
There's a cocktail called the Schoenberg-- it's gin, with no tonic (ba-dum tss)
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure many of those have been consumed after Schoenberg performances!
@jackmarentette1302
@jackmarentette1302 5 жыл бұрын
Bad joke
@thijmenkrijgsman2417
@thijmenkrijgsman2417 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥳🤣
@johngeorgio5908
@johngeorgio5908 2 жыл бұрын
OOOOhuahuahuahua ! LOL LOL OL !
@jacklee6888
@jacklee6888 Жыл бұрын
POV talking to your classical Dad
@opticalmixing23
@opticalmixing23 2 жыл бұрын
Not that anyone could play it with ease, but his Op.25 work is like jumping into a world of horror and beauty
@joshuasussman8112
@joshuasussman8112 Ай бұрын
Schoenberg is one of my favorite composers. I watch anything I can on him.
@pjbailey2313
@pjbailey2313 6 жыл бұрын
This is now one of my most favorite channels. Right up there with "Ask a Mortician " You are definitely much better and entertaining at presenting this information than the instructor in my 7:30am Music History class!!
@sebastianzaczek
@sebastianzaczek 6 жыл бұрын
You are not the only one with this opinion...:D
@erzsblasfantaven3334
@erzsblasfantaven3334 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! But with it being at 7:30 AM, I would also blame the time for the lack of entertainment ... I'm not myself at such an hour either.
@pjbailey2313
@pjbailey2313 6 жыл бұрын
This was back in the fall of 1976, the text was "Grout", and prof was ancient and tenured. It was boring. lol
@christiancortes4400
@christiancortes4400 6 жыл бұрын
p.j. Bailey oh my god classical nerd and ask a mortician are also my favorite KZfaq channels
@TheMatrixxandRhodesShow
@TheMatrixxandRhodesShow 5 жыл бұрын
It took me a while to get into Schoenberg but as I studeied 20th century composition techniques I have a great apprepiaction for his work. He was the most important composer of the 20th century. Not my favorite (Samuel Barber is) but the most important.
@sujungleeflute7798
@sujungleeflute7798 5 жыл бұрын
I lLOVE the richness of the information lasting for 20 min no breaks!
@neao7939
@neao7939 4 жыл бұрын
Your awesome man! Thanks for all your uploads!
@Tengle6
@Tengle6 6 жыл бұрын
Yo dude great stuff keep it up
@groovermctoober4508
@groovermctoober4508 4 ай бұрын
Your presentation is simply outstanding, as always!
@Posturtle
@Posturtle 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice your copy of his book "Harmonielehre" in the bookcase behind you.
@thebellman2010
@thebellman2010 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and great channel!
@wbiro
@wbiro 2 жыл бұрын
"Are you THE Schoenberg, the composer?" "Someone had to be." 3:09 Keith Emerson did a lot of quartal harmony (and melody)... hearkening back three quarters of a century...
@toyatsymonds9324
@toyatsymonds9324 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Presentation, well articulated. thankful
@ericrakestraw664
@ericrakestraw664 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking my request.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@PierreChouinard-ht9iw
@PierreChouinard-ht9iw 4 ай бұрын
Very informative. Very well done. Thanks.
@Opuskrokus
@Opuskrokus 6 жыл бұрын
These are brilliant, and would be even better if you'd include short music examples, like of the intervalic content.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
I try to as much as possible, but with a one-week turnaround on top of a full course load, sometimes that gets cut! However, fear not-there's going to be a lot of that when I get around to the video on the Second Viennese School in general, which will be more free to talk about compositional technique since it won't be tied to being a biography of any one member. (It's currently 13th in the queue.)
4 жыл бұрын
That can be a problem nowadays on KZfaq, since bogus copyright strikes are rampant... A lot of the times, even original recordings of other composers music (which creators themselves have played/recorded and use in their videos), gets claimed...
@alexandresobreiramartins9461
@alexandresobreiramartins9461 4 жыл бұрын
It's very remarkable and for me pretty incomprehensible how intelligent, even brilliant people, can utterly fail to be rational. Schoenberg's superstitious vein is a perfect example of that. Edit: I DO love his music, regardless!
@agp745
@agp745 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was wondering if you could also make videos explaining the history and meaning behind great pieces such as Elgar’s Enigma Variations. I think that might be entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work!
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
A video on the Enigma Variations has been added to the request pool.
@lutzwuppmann
@lutzwuppmann 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always really liked Schoenberg's Music and I would like to play his "Variations on a Recitative" sometime, but it's sadly not written very well for the Instrument. By the way: The German Word "Sprechstimme" does not translate to "Spoken singing" but to "Speaking Voice" instead.
@ericrakestraw664
@ericrakestraw664 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, Schoenberg started writing in a free atonal style much earlier than Pierrot Lunaire (1912). Take his Drei Klavierstucke (Three Piano Pieces) Op. 11 and Five Pieces for Orchestra Op. 16, for example - both from 1909.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
True, and perhaps I should have made that more clear looking back. However, _Pierrot_ is still the preeminent example of the pre-12-tone, freely atonal style, with the novelty of the singing style and ensemble, as well as his more unified approach to formal design. There's a lot more to say about that piece, and analysis of it tells us a lot more about who Schoenberg was.
@kirschrot77
@kirschrot77 3 жыл бұрын
Schönberg was born on the 13th of September, ironic
@richardhines8622
@richardhines8622 2 жыл бұрын
What the man gave birth to is timeless.
@donna25871
@donna25871 Жыл бұрын
One of my high school music teachers was close friends with Jane Manning the great interpreter of Pierrot Lunaire.
@mattia.a_p
@mattia.a_p 3 жыл бұрын
Very complete video Thomas! Hadn’t watched this one yet. Maybe you’re interested in my analysis video about Schönberg’s Three Piano Pieces Op.11 :) Greetings from Berlin
@tarzan2857
@tarzan2857 4 жыл бұрын
Hi did you made a video of your Harmony,coubterpoint and theory books.You have such a beautiful collection I will be very happy if you can show us what you use.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 4 жыл бұрын
I made a bookshelf tour a while back [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7SchrBqr73Im40.html ]. It's not super in-depth on any of the particular textbooks, but gives a good idea of what I've got.
@katherinehyk
@katherinehyk 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do one on Charles Ives? (ps. I love your channel it's so educational such a great way to learn about composers bio. Keep up all the good stuff!!)
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
Ives is one of my favorite composers and I covered him in a very early video (although the production quality is overall a bit poorer than what I produce now): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z82WacyIkq-nXZc.html
@joelparker
@joelparker 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@toyatsymonds9324
@toyatsymonds9324 Жыл бұрын
EMANCIPATION FROM The HOLY TRINITY of music conformity.
@bassoonistfromhell
@bassoonistfromhell 6 жыл бұрын
Schoen Arnoldberg
@ilovevloging100
@ilovevloging100 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on Glen Gould? Thanks 💖
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
Gould has now moved up in the request pool!
@christiancortes4400
@christiancortes4400 6 жыл бұрын
Please do Bizet
@SamiGold
@SamiGold 6 жыл бұрын
Schoenberg's music just blows my mind. I can barely understand it. Jesus this guy was brilliant
@Erickvazquezc
@Erickvazquezc 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just adjust the twists and turns of your speech to cues on modulation happening in the background?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I've never intentionally edited a video like that, but sometimes things just fall into position like that in a happy coincidence!
@zacharydetrick7428
@zacharydetrick7428 5 жыл бұрын
12:13 Was Schoenberg the first to talk about this idea? I remember seeing it in the writings of Harry Partch.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 5 жыл бұрын
Schoenberg saw chords as having less and less function, and the consequence of his "emancipation" is-in practice-the treating of any sonority as though it _were_ consonant. The explanation I used is generally taken a step further as a rationalization of microtonal music, but it can easily apply to Schoenberg; I've found it to be the best way to understand the rise of atonality in the context of the broadest scope of music history.
@zacharydetrick7428
@zacharydetrick7428 5 жыл бұрын
But Schoenberg definitely did talk about history progressing through the overtone series?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 5 жыл бұрын
He saw history as progressing through increased dissonance and wanted to free dissonance from the need to resolve to consonance. Since the overtone series governs the continuum of consonance to dissonance, it's the best way to understand what is, on a scientific level, "more dissonant."
@jonasotte5433
@jonasotte5433 6 жыл бұрын
Another Roslavez video please! ;)
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
... on what, exactly? There's not a whole lot more to talk about in terms of his biography.
@jonasotte5433
@jonasotte5433 6 жыл бұрын
On the synthetic chords, for example :) There is not much information about it, but i've read something according to his second Etude for piano. Btw - great videos!
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
A video on Roslavets' synthetic system is now in the request pool.
@jonasotte5433
@jonasotte5433 6 жыл бұрын
Classical Nerd Nice!
@jackdoherty762
@jackdoherty762 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering is there anywhere you list the sources for this video? I'm currently reading up on Schoenberg for a personal project about him, and I was wondering what biographies and books on his music you read while making this video. Thank you very much, I love your content.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have a biography of Schoenberg, but he's a big enough figure that a somewhat decent picture of him is painted indirectly through many of the other books I have on the shelf. Much of my research, however, focused in on masters' theses and doctoral dissertations that I could find through manipulating search engines-i.e. combining Schoenberg's name, one of his pieces, one of his theoretical techniques, and the terms "PDF" and "biography" and "analysis" in many different ways. For a major figure like Schoenberg, this results in a ton of information. As far as keeping a source _list_ for individual videos, I'm sorry to say I can't help you on that front. I pull relevant information into the video scripts and keeping a separate list of source material is just not a part of that process.
@jackdoherty762
@jackdoherty762 6 жыл бұрын
Classical Nerd that’s grand, thank you very much for responding anyway.
@Tizohip
@Tizohip 3 жыл бұрын
i have to learn more english to understand this videos about Atonal music better. :)
@srothbardt
@srothbardt 2 ай бұрын
I like many of his works, but i think I like Berg better. Also like Webern. They are all classics now.
@ivankaramasov
@ivankaramasov Жыл бұрын
What do you get if you combine Arnold Schoenberg with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Nothing. He'll be Bach.
@ShorkGamer
@ShorkGamer 6 жыл бұрын
I found atonality ugly.
@richardhines8622
@richardhines8622 2 жыл бұрын
As is much of life, but we and it have our moments.
@Kevin-sq1hh
@Kevin-sq1hh 6 жыл бұрын
Noise just noise
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNd_d9yEuN69oJc.html
@joshsussman9432
@joshsussman9432 4 жыл бұрын
You have to give this music a lot of time and patience. But once you do, it is amazing, emotionally and intellectually rewarding music.
@richardrickford3028
@richardrickford3028 3 жыл бұрын
To you, yes
@Kevin-sq1hh
@Kevin-sq1hh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalNerd hey sorry about this comment, I was quite immature when I typed this. Though Schoenberg is still not pleasant to my ears, I’ve come to appreciate the theory and effort that goes into his type of music.
@alexandros6433
@alexandros6433 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshsussman9432 and pretend it sounds good, right
@willx9352
@willx9352 3 жыл бұрын
Atonality and serialism have proven to be a total musical dead end.
@cometcourse381
@cometcourse381 2 жыл бұрын
This is unfortunately true, now we are once again stuck in a cycle of musical cliches.
@edwardgivenscomposer
@edwardgivenscomposer 2 жыл бұрын
@@cometcourse381 exactly to which we now may add, thanks to Arnold, what is irreverently known as "Bleep-Squawk" music.
@davidvanmersbergen5335
@davidvanmersbergen5335 Жыл бұрын
Every note is as important as every other...leads to ugly music..
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