@simbasquest1 everything doesn't have to be explained just a fun Easter egg for fans of the franchise

​@simbasquest1 i think a crashed ufo, barely noticeable in the distance, would be a better fit. I think itd be hard to have a flying ufo fit naturally into a scene, but if its inconspicuously placed in a pile of junk in the distance so you have to look for it, the immersion isnt ruined imo.

​@@simbasquest1 bro people who play the games are confused about the mysterious stranger aswell. My girlfriend would ask me who the fuck that guy is and I would simply say no clue he just pops up and kills people every so often 😂😂😂😂

The Ghoul is the mysterious stranger

How about a cameo from a high level actor who jumps in just as Lucy is about to die, stims her, and then tosses a crate of 1000 stims at her feet (along with a bunch of typewriters and desk fans) and just disappears. Fallout! Ta dah! p.s. Maybe shoot her a gun-finger emote as they fast travel back to c.a.m.p.

LMAO THAT’S MESSED UP

That'll be cursed. Add elements of his Expendables character and well.....

David Morrissey would be good as an enclave general. He was good at playing the governor in the walking dead.

If they ever cast Virgil, it’s gotta be Dave Bautista.

YES YES YES

"Hey! No one in diamond city is a synth, now go back home people!"

Hello father. We are here to make our presence known to the commonwealth.

This is in reference to him saying it's their first honest "exchange"

​@flyingwhale7176 but of course. The way the waste land is lol

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By the end of the series he will have collected body parts from each faction leader and gain a special Perk from it

@@Dankboi68 true bloody mess

That also gave him the best high he’d ever had.

That was my thinking. Swan also wasn’t dipped in a vat according to his notes so there’s obviously other ways.

Eddie Winter also did that to survive the apocalypse in his own bunker in Fallout 4. However, with Hancock and Eddie it sounded more like a secret government/corporation made drug. The stuff Thaddeus got from the "Snake Oil Salesman" was much more of a homebrewed concoction. How quickly it turns ya into a Ghoul seems slower too. Granted, you could argue Jet has a similar set up in Fallout. Being old world meth with new world flavor (Brahman shit). So, maybe the guy figured out how to make it on his own/found out about it and reversed engineered it? The show has taken some liberties with how ghouls work in Fallout already. So this might be another alteration. Otherwise, it could be a homebrewed FEV concoction, or something new the show is introducing like the drug that treats ghouls starting to go feral.

I think he is going to become a super mutant

Considering he threatened the med guy with a gun at that point, so it may have been an elaborate f*ck you back to him.

Really? How didn't I notice that?

Which was utterly stupid.

then how did she get it sewn back ?

@@aldunlop4622 why tho?

@@ivydowling75she got hers out the old and rotten finger drawer from the organ harvesting mr.handy

You mean Caesar was right?

@@hollieginoza7935 Ave! True to Caesar.

100% he's the main character of the vault 31-33 story with his own sidekick and villain 😂😂😂

He's our eyes in the vault basically

Well, they wouldn't have the problem of the actor aging between seasons. I mean, he's obviously a full grown adult right now. I think the actor is like 30 yrs old. I was all "Lucy's younger brother? lol"

He was a far better character than Maximus

He was honestly a great surprise of the show, didn't expect to like him much but ended up liking whenever he was on screen

or moved to Jacobstown.

@renaigh Hopefully Jacobstown is still around in some fashion

The actual "most logical reason" is they needed to keep the show on budget.

Yes, also the fact that both mutants and death claws are well primarily in the east coast so fallout 4.

After the master’s death most super mutants left the boneyard and wandered the wasteland. So that’s anothe reason.

I kinda wish they wouldn't use that song though during battle scenes, they used that same song when the raiders attacked and during the battle at Megaton. They need to switch it atleast to the Ink Spots I don't want to set the world on fire song

Neat, I totally missed that and thank you for pointing it out.

In episode 2, the scientists have a super mutant body on a gurney and they are transporting I somewhere.

They were wheeling a dead one out of the labs at the enclave before the scientist escaped

looks like he escaped from enclave and then enclave put poster everywhere to find him

Government*

Good idea

That would work. It's odd we didn't see a conversation between Cooper and moldaver in the present. Could be that it would reveal that info too soon

Gary....

Clones work, but its not the first time we've seen people pre war lasting this long without becoming a Ghoul, Sole Survivor from Vault 111 with cryo, entirety of Vault 31, and Kellogg, who used cybernetics to stay basically immortal, and Mr House, kind of

She's a Synth!

It could also be some hyper irradiated form of Hydra from Fallout New Vegas. Hydra restores limbs and would be a common drug in the Mohave. Healing Factor Serum has only really been seen in Appalachia

@@JokerDoomit’s very possible that the serum was traded first through blue ridge, and somehow made its way through various caravans to the witch doctor. That’s one way I could see it being explained but I suppose that would be very er.. complicated?

@@BigGecko17184 It’s not *that* complicated, although I do think it’s unlikely. In my mind at least, a more likely non-hydra answer would be a small dose of FEV. Not enough to begin mutating him immediately, but enough to cause some mutation through healing. It would also cause ghoul-like mutations (think Harold, who is not a ghoul, but a mutated human).

well assuming Kimball wasn't killed at the hoover dam mission

Not a bad idea - maybe have him exit through 31's vault door which exits into a cave filled with giant rats? :)

I like it. Nice callback to Fallout 1. ties up a loose end, and Establishing vault 31 asa node in a trade route helps that community open up to more than raiders.

I think Norm will do something with the cryopod computer he was approaching at the end of the season that will get him out of his predicament. He's already been shown to be ruthless in thought, though cowardly in action, and when you corner a ruthless animal. I think he'll "hack" the computer and hold the remaining frozen Bud's Buds hostage or something.

Shouldn't Vault 32 have a functioning water chip? At least until/unless the populations of the split 32/33 vaults grow, one chip should provide enough water.

@@jarink1 probably does, but I don't think they were designed to serve 2 Vaults at once. Even if they were both connected.

Woah

That is actually the reason, they confirmed it a week or so ago

It was the Prydwen, East Coast went out to support the West.

That makes Prydwen's survival canonical... and obviously not under Danse.

@@TG626 Danse was never in command of the Prydwen. I mean technically speaking, Lancer Captain Kells is the commanding officer of the Prydwen during Fallout 4. But I believe you were referring to Arthur Maxson who was the Elder of the Brotherhood using it as a Flagship for his Expeditionary Force.

I smell what you're cooking and I want a helping of that.

Shit I hope the writers saw your comment

That's likely, the fact loyalty is more important to Quintus is a red flag no pun intended. The brotherhood values honor and bravery, not loyalty, unless it's to the brotherhood itself. Danse is a beacon of the excellence and if you watch the show back there are no proud knights or paladins. They seem more like a frat boy party with guns and senseless joy over their advancements

@@TheGodOfGematria and you can still rationalize that the Legions desire for martial and physical prowess is still being kept up. You have to earn using power armor and lots of BoS soldiers fight in just uniforms. Plus by hoarding advanced technology, they force the Wastelanders to adapt or die, like the NCR, which I be Quintus was eager to finish off.

man i hope. this plot sounds so intrigueing. a direct continuation of new vegas

That could be interesting. Especially considering the Brotherhood in NV probably wouldn't care for this version of the Brotherhood. Regardless of the elder. McNamara is too nice, and Hardin is a stick in the mud. So if they show up, I imagine there will be disagreements. Though that assumes they survive the events of NV.

The BoS and Legion working toghether isn't that crazy. BoS doesn't want anyone else to have technology Legion believed technology made you weak. Legion is honestly the only alliance BoS could make without being a hypocrite.

They have many enemies, and the technology is clearly powerful and dangerous, that's why it's priority... for now.

the enclave is just about destroyed at this point isnt it? hes held captive by the brotherhood but chooses to give cold fusion to the NCR

I guess it's not the whole Enclave as we see in Fallout 2, more of a Remnant, like the one in New Vegas but more active.

@@agentnukaz1715 As far as we know, there is a base out in Chicago that might have perfected controllable super mutants. I also don't remember if Bradley-Hercules was destroyed or disabled at all. That being said, you think the Enclave is going to let Cold Fusion disappear from their grasp? The Prydwen's days are numbered.

In Fallout 2 they also did jack shit about the enclave and that was the whole damned contingent of them, BoS and Enclave's rivalry is less intense than what people think XD

Being stuck in a vault alone without food would do it

What makes me curious is why he's much smaller than a regular robobrain. Why not a Think Tank robobrain instead? I mean, he's a partner of Big MT so that's actually a possible thing to do, rite? I just think that his roombabrain body is far from efficient

This is the same company that tricked a vault into sacrificing its members as a prank, im sure they manipulated him into believing in what they’re doing

The ones in the cell was indeed the ones she shot(well the few she shot, like the girl who was about to kill her brother was locked up aka she was shot in the face lol) the rest probably lost their 1v1s/got jumped by other residents

Yeah, with the number of combat oriented vault clubs these dwellers are bad asses. They have the skill to take down the Raiders, but there were 2 problems with the first being that they’ve never actually trained for combat, and the second is that they hole heartedly did not expect it. You can train in martial arts as a hobby but that doesn’t mean you’re first reaction is to use those skills if a battle breaks out, and the raiders came in pretending to be wedding guests and waited long enough to make sure the dwellers didn’t suspect anything. It happened very fast and the dwellers had no chance to react and get their footing, but after the initial shock the dwellers started fighting back and winning. The only ones that actually posed a challenge after the Dwellers started fighting back were the soldiery ones with Muldaver.

That makes sense. The NCR as of New Vegas was quite corrupt and had a lot of problems. Moldaver's group was probably a more idealistic/radical/populist faction that believed themselves to represent the "real" NCR. I don't think they were separatists because they still used the NCR flag, and the entrance of their base said "New California Republic HQ". They were probably in conflict with the actual corrupt NCR government, which is why their troops were nowhere to be seen in the area, and why Moldaver had to use raiders instead of actual soldiers to take the vault. The official NCR probably moved their capital away from Shady Sands after Moldaver's radical faction took over the city.

The more I think about it, the less it makes sense for NCR to have collapsed from the destruction of Shady Sands (especially with it being the original capital, meaning it wasn't when it was nuked). Losing one city, that had only 3% of the NCR population, wouldn't collapse the country. So either they had Hank nuke every NCR city (which would be a VERY big deal...wiping out so many legacy locations from the original games), or the NCR is still around and just pulled out of SoCal once their communities there were gone. Maximus says NCR didn't work out but he's a newly minted squire; he doesn't know jack.

​@@arthurwigglesby8590 it could have been a combination of factors. like NCR was busy recovering from their situation in new vegas so when shady sands got nuked, they were still consolidating. they barely had time to respond and figure out something was wrong. at which point, NCR could have fractured a little internally. not enough to bring down NCR, but enough that NCR could not easily respond to the sudden swooping in of the Brotherhood to snatch up some survivors and leave, before later coming back in in force to take out the NCR base there. I imagine though that with mauldevers death, chances are the Brotherhood and NCR are going to find themselves on a collision course. because the promise of cold fusion now being Stolen by the Brotherhood is going to likely kick NCR into war with the brotherhood. it could be that the ghoul and lucy ends up running into enclave remenants and members of NCR in their pursuit of Hank. meanwhile... NCR starts prepping to retaliate on the brotherhood as well as New vegas starts to itself recover from the aftermath of its own devastating clash. honestly we might get some drug trip moment or areas of confused perspective where things like the mysterious stranger or Zetans appear. Lucy probably is going to be contending with those as she continues pursing the truth and hank.

Exactly

great writing.....

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Clearly.

@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Well, it wasn't a dumb idea by her but the fact they memoryholed the raiders into that room, which had been makeshifted into a prison cell on the spot by the dwellers while others somehow kept the raiders at bay, IS great writing by whomever did this and a stellar reminder of noth Amazon's and Bethesda's storytelling.

Yes, and it can aerosolized

It also contaminated the water supply of Huntersville in FO76

Yeah I find the assertion that something called the Forced Evolutionary "VIRUS" you have o be dipped / immerse in a vat of to work. Now, it may not be an airborne virus but can still be transmitted by various bodily fluids like most colds and flus.

glad I'm not the only who thought of them.

Did the supply of Lorenzo's serum dry up after 2277? Did the Flame Mother lose access to the serum after FO4? Maybe that pressured Moldaver into action and/or lead to the Fall of Shady Sands.

Even if it isn't specifically the Cabot drug, it's an example of there being mystery drugs with wild effects that never specifically named all over the wasteland

I mean it could easily be whatever hancock took to become a ghoul he took a drug and it ghoulified him

Yes. Very possibly this. Or… I actually assumed throughout most of the show that it was simply Radaway or Rad-X. It would also make sense in that it is NOT a “cure” as Oxhorn is suggesting… It just prolongs the ghoul from becoming feral. What would do that…? Taking absurd amounts of Radway so your brain doesn’t continue to rot from radiation.

They probably moved to San Fran, actually, it'd be a damned cool series finale to have something like "The battle of San Fran" be it's last event or smth like that, just saying.

@@Nobody-zl3kk Yes I got a feeling actually they will set fallout 5 in San Francisco area. They have given a few hints about the city like in Fallout 4 like Kellogg's past.

As a big fan of Minutemen, please please I want them thrive in Commonwealth.

Alive and well *for* *ten* *years*… You’d think they’d still have… an army, and ranks… and currency… and chain of command… *if* *they* *are* *still* *intact*… even in decline they sustained a nation the size of California, surely there’d have been some organised stragglers. That’s completely ignoring the fact there is no news about NCR remnants, nor of anyone (and there’s a lot of people) for a 10* year period claiming any part of California… nor news of any major battles (news of Helios one, Hoover dam and the divide spread pretty quickly, why wouldn’t stuff closer be any different?) Even a Hearts Of Iron 4 mod that takes place in the same universe (old world blues) does this in the form of “newspapers” for major events (the NCR/Legion war, the unification of Texas (infinitely more interesting then the show by the way) etc). If a *grand* *strategy* *game* *mod* can grasp the concept of *MAJOR* *EVENTS* being news worthy *across* *the* *wastes* (granted it happens instantly because of the nature of the game but still), surely the writers could too right? Oh also… I’m sure it doesn’t take 10+ years to fly across the United States in a blimp… or with vertibirds… the only explanation would be they heard nothing from lost hills… but then… why wouldn’t they send teams to check sooner?

@@janetd5121 why not the East Coast again?

But she died so it wouldn't make sense to speak of her again. Unless there's another one of her which could mean that she's a clone hence why she's been alive all this time and why "everyone knows her".

@@joebenzz With how common pre-war flashbacks were in season 1, I think it's absolutely safe to say we'll see at least one more interaction with her and pre-war Cooper Howard given where we left off in the finale with him spying on the board meeting. And while characters in 2296 likely won't have reason to discuss her at length, I also think it's absolutely in the realm of possibility to hear at least mentions after her death given what she just accomplished in the finale.

I want to know if she was frozen or cloned. How did she live so long?

@@joebenzz the guy huncho that frees the Ghoul from the grave. Refers to Moldaver as a "witch." So I think that would make sense.

That or she's a clone

@@A13jandr0169 I can't remember if the clones in Fallout had memories of the original person. But definitely an opinion.

In vault 4 there was a synth. She had glowing blue eyes like one. But moldaver is possibly an FEV mutant, I explained that the drinking of blood is likely moldaver drank the blood of FEV tainted supply and she became a ghoul/vampire. Synths having a relationship with an aged ghoul is just highly unlikely, it's more like we see a synth of moldaver later in the show.

Up until this point, Synths were really only in east (The Capitol in 3, Commonwealth and on the Island in 4) due to the institute. That's not to say the institute didn't pick up and head west, much like they did between 3 and 4. Unless there's multiple locations operating individually, that aren't mentioned anywhere (as far as I know). But none of that is provable unless we find hard evidence in game or in whatever other media is considered canon, such as the show now. So basically, based off of what we have seen in canon, it's more possible that she was cryogenically in stasis, this is a cloan technology that her company was working on before or under Vault Tec (which could lead to the origin story of the cloaning experiment vault full of Gary's) or a possible stable FEV experiment. But that last one is a bit of a strech over the other few. I personally don't know of any examples of where someone used FEV and at the very least didn't become a giant, green, hairless sasquatch.

My bet: She actually was working with the communist Chinese (she was leading that anti-VaultTec thing pre-war) and they had stolen some cryogenic tech. Had her frozen due to how good of an agent she was for them. Also explains how she has the listening device pre-war, as that is definitely spy technology. She also ages as much as Hank does, meaning she likely unthawed around the same time he did. The game has yet to explore remnants of the Chinese invasion force in the US, so there's a narrative reason to return to Moldaver's past.

Exactly... you can even compare during the Vault fight scenes, most of the Raiders that were tranq by Lucy, are the prisoners in the Vault later.

Idk how oxhorn missed this, mega brain

In the first episode I had thought that Wilzig and CX404 were synths. Then I realized that Wilzig was just a cult member.

Its kinda plausible. We know CIT was planning something along these lines before the war, they were storing people’s consciousness. Thats how nick became a synth, he wouldve been one of their practice runs.

Wow. That could be a very important observation, there. Perhaps cryo chambers were common than the previous games suggest. Could this be how Moldaver is alive since pre-war? Or was her life extended somehow?

@@WacoA.I. If cryochambers were used on multiple vaults, then clearly its a somewhat widespread technology, at least within the corporations with the need to know.

@@cognitivedisability9864 I agree. And the different types of cryo beds that we've seen suggest that it's been available for a while.

That was stupid!

@@WacoA.I. I figure that Moldaver was in one of those suites, and was awakened by a battle at New Vegas that shut the power off. That's how she meets the NCR, and thus how she makes it back to LA leading NCR remnants.

Agreed but it would be significantly decrepit and a shell of its former self; probably limited to just a corrupt and decadent regional power. Or it could have collapsed entirely and there’s fragments of the old government all over the west coast.

Yes and add in the east coast brotherhood flags and people asking why are they here and wondering what model the power armor is when the Prydwen shows up, its clear its the east coast chapter sending people to get the cold fusion tech. It is lore in fallout 4 the Prydwen was having power issues with its reactor.

This means that only the Brotherhood or Minutemen endings can be canon.

@@CyberController- Yes and I think the reason they are still in the commonwealth is there are still synths and the railroad helping them, otherwise why not return to the capital. Likely fallout 4 ending is Minutemen ending with destroying the institute and leaving both the railroad and brotherhood still around.

I believe the US before the Great War was broken up into “commonwealths” instead of states so just note that

@@janetd5121 Narratively, it wouldn't make sense to keep the Railroad around long-term. With the Institute gone, it's unlikely Synths will be a focus in any games going forward. In that case, you might as well have them wiped out by the Brotherhood. As for them staying in the Commonwealth, that's why they're after the Cold Fusion reactor. Ingram says in 4 that, without a solution to their reactor's overheating problem, the Prydwin is stuck at Boston Airport. A Cold Fusion reactor is just what they need to get moving again.

can't believe he missed this

ORRRR… Moldaver is a synth? 😮😮😮

Moldaver clones!

First Battle of Hoover Dam would've played a role in its decline in the Republic

Vault tec didn’t necessarily fail with their cryo pods besides theres nobody to wake them up. The institute sabotaged the cryopods by turning off life support, only left us as the sole survivor in case they needed a ‘backup’

Well in Fallout, Cloning is also a thing. She could just be copies of the original.

@@minyaksayur Technically yes, but cryo is more likely. My bet is she could have been even in Vault31, as a prisoner. "to be defrozed if research with Cold Fusion needed"... and maybe Rose Lucy's mom freed her.

@@MolnarG007I’m thinking a more likely scenario, since she did have a lot of resources pre war, is that she secretly prepared for the worst and recruited underground. Maybe had something of a network throughout the wasteland of those suspicious with resources. Knowing that Vault-tec’s plan was to recolonize in 200 years, they would in turn do the same when the time came.

@@minyaksayurtrue. She could have also had connections to what would eventually become the Institute so a synth would also be possible but I feel like there would have been some kind of foreshadowing if that was the case when she died. Theorising with everyone is so much fun though. We’ll just have to see

Vault 31 probably has a janitorial team assigned to cleanups this probably wasn't the first time

@@TheGodOfGematria well it needs to be a robot team, since Bud said he's the only one awake in Vault 31.

@@Diorm and Betty Pearson, since she's also aware of the vaults mission

@@TheGodOfGematria true, but I don't see her going to vault 32 when everybody is sleeping to do all the cleaning

It can reactivate the people from sleep, then they go back? Or Enclave people came?

It either has to be BoS or Minutemen. My bets on the Latter.

​@@Ulqui_210minutemen are not a threat to bos, elder maxson likely would prefer their existence since they serve to have settlements and supplies while they provide protection. In fact unless the sole survivor sided with raiders the minutemen more than likely spread to the castle.

​@@Ulqui_210 If Maxson achieved victory in Boston, they will have so much tech that make Brotherhood even stronger. The way cleric said how Brotherhood became weak makes me suspect Maxson & Prydwen might have perished. The airship we saw might be a new one. I am biased because I am also Minutemen fan boy. I'm so invested i want the scouts triumph over Brotherhood & Institute.

That implies that courier 5 died which did not happen, just like new vegas being destroyed is not canon.

You want the Courier to be killed off? Damn thats messed up

Personally, I like the idea that she keeps getting cloned whenever she dies. That way we get to see her in season 2 because I really liked the character in season 1 aha

I don't know why this is confusing. Also, Maximus was there when the bombs fell and Lucy was there before the bombs. If it happened in 2277, they'd both be about 30 and they're clearly not.

@@andyholland2130 honestly, everyone else made me confused and question it. I thought it was pretty simple too. Haha

@@Deryan-tv2tt fr 😂 this guy is dead set on that timeline "somehow" being wrong but he can't accept that it's pretty clearly laid out

I haven't confirmed by actually checking, but I've seen pics online with the letters Prydwen clearly painted on the airship in the show. If not just some extraordinarily sloppy and lazy CGI work by borrowing from the Fallout 4 game, then perhaps it was intended originally to be the Prydwen and they changed the story after the work was already done. Hopefully a clever writer will fix this in S2. bwahaha! I can't believe I said that with a straight face.

​@@WacoA.I. it's not a reuse of assets because the text is different between fallout 4 and the show

Unusual but not unheard of: sometimes ships get renamed. I know they take pride in their history, but if something happened they want to deny, not in their liking maybe that's why they renamed the Prydwen. Maybe new leader wanted to use the rename as a clear signal to everyone new times, new leader.

@@MolnarG007 which would be interesting if it later turns out that the boston brotherhood mission were destroyed by the minutemen or the railroad, or the institute. the renaming of the prydwen from what it was originally could be a byproduct of the desire to save face. like the brotherhood going "Uhh... No... No... the prydwyn didn't get blown up by savages... it just... um... went to aid our brothers out west... yeah..." combined with maybe a cover story of the fate of Maxon to keep up moral and we suddenly have an conspiracy that maximus can potentially uncover. that the brotherhood is itself falling apart from within. the revelation that the prydwen name was painted over the ship known as the caswynon would be damaging to the elders of the brotherhood as the fate of the Prydwyn would have been an INTENSELY sour spot for them. such a treasure trove of artifacts and prewar assets... lost... because of a sole survivor of a prewar vault.

It's possibly an Enterprise situation ​@@MolnarG007

100%. Empires don't fall overnight and like Rome, there is more than one contributing factor.

yeah exactly! Just like someone falling down it doesn't happen instantaneously, it's a gradually decline till you hit the floor. Like the fall of shady sands meaning it slowing started declining before it was nuked by Kyle MacLachlan.

It's also been teased/foreshadowed heavily in New Vegas by certain characters like Ulysses and House that the NCR is headed in a path where they'll end up with the same fate as their old world predecessors that they try so hard to imitate I just hope we see it happen in season 2 tbh like how we saw parts of pre-war America getting nuked, I'm a bit mad that we only got to see the aftermath of Shady Sands being nuked not right when it happens Otherwise, no issue with it as it's thematically fitting so props to the showmakers!

Yeah that's what I was thinking, it's not a mistake. People are just not thinking very much about it and just reacting.

​@@malif1279 It's not too late to see a flashback of Shady Sands getting nuked

Makes sense on how he can regenerate and looks “cleaner” then most ghouls we see

Moldavia*not sure i spelled that right* could be a clone to get her to 2296. More likely she was on ice though. Maybe she mastered the tech to make a perfectly human looking ghoul, though i doubt that. Maybe she was close developing it before, one of the companies she worked for was bought out by vault tec. Then perfected it in her own. Again its doubtful, but it would explain the serum the ghoul needs to consume to some degree. Maybe she tried to use the serum on Lucy's mom but she just went feral. So much to speculate on.

@@argontreper8524 Moldaver called herself Miss Williams before the war. Perhaps her real name is Cabot. As in Lorenzo Cabot.

@@WacoA.I. hadn't thought about that, could be though.

@@WacoA.I. ....nonononon o NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO WE ARE NOT DOING LVOECRAFT THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT! in all seriousness. I had a goodl augh. Cheers.

My theory has to do something with his wife . We still don't even know what he did after he found out that conversation .

well Thaddeus took an arrow to his throat and survived like it was nothing, I think Cooper is pretty normal for a Ghoul all things considered

Plot armor. He literally cannot die until written out of the show. And i can't see that happening, easily the most entertaining character.

Free States only appear in Fallout 76, which takes place in Appalachia a mere 25 years after the bombs dropped. They haven't been mentioned at all in Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, or New Vegas... meaning that the Free States most likely did not survive the 200 years needed, or if they did they never spread out of Appalachia. Given that the Free States are anarchists their guiding ideology would really prevent them organizing enough to be a major player on the national stage.

@@alexjgilpin I think cold fusion, a completely free and limitless source of power, is absolutely an anarchist move, don’t you think? It might not be a Free States faction, but I think they’re indicating towards there being many people such as government reps who disagreed with Vault Tecs involvement with the government. 76 is the lastest game, and they’re now exploring and expanding their lore in that game and the show. We see a very extreme end of capitalism, and usually when you see extremism on one end, you will likely see extremism from the other end. And I think they’re trying to delve into that. They’re looking at how Vault Tec got their support, where they got their money, where they got the technology. But also in the meeting during the show, they touch on (but don’t go into) the various companies and their rival competitors. Who was Vault Tecs competition? What exactly is their plan after the bombs dropped? Selling residence in a vault is all good and well, a safe place in a wasteland, but where’s the growth? We don’t yet see evidence or them preserving mining technology for resources for growth. Not to say that we won’t see that they have, because having the monopoly on the only completely safe living facilities, and start offering spaces for lease as well as buy would be a good plan. I’m getting sidetracked, but given Moldavia did mention all the companies she work got bought out, I think at the very least she had frozen herself. I’m not sure about there being enough organisation and cooperation for there to be numerous free bunkers/vaults. Though there are quite a few people in the wasteland who did not turn into ghouls, have had children, and were not from vault tec vaults…

Except Shady Sands is a small town, not a vast empire.

To ox I quote" they should of used Decline instead of fall" Like decline doesn't mean the fall of something 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭🤦🤦🤦

​@@sternencolonel7328once again, learn to read a chalkboard correctly

Why didn't they just date the nuke lol

@@sternencolonel7328 Creators and producers of the show confirmed the bomb fell after the events of New Vegas in either 2281 or 2282. The fall of Shady Sands and the nuke were separate events. I do think the chalkboard was poorly conveying this though

The Commonwealth?

Of course. Boston.

@@fizz_time7003no, actually it takes place in London and they’re running out of biscuits

Yeah, that still hurts me as well after all those years. At least they got to make a movie to bring the story full circle.

Agreed, Ox brings up the fact that they really borked up the history of Shady Sands with that blackboard scene. It may well be correct but it's not clear at all and it caused a lot of people (myself included, I have to raise my hand here) to screech about retconning the lore. Intentional or not, they're trying to keep the lore central in the show, so here's hoping they do it right. Ron Pearlman would be a coup, for sure. They also really need to do NV right here. A mistake, or intentional borking of the lore here will get everyone screeching again. (Likely myself included as I do love FO NV).

He will be perfect as a supermutant!

@@3dfreak2000 I was thinking he'd be perfect as someone running one of the casinos in New Vegas. Of course, that's also me thinking his character from Pacific Rim would make a great, shady casino owner following the nuclear apocalypse.

​@stevenread1676 they could do justice to NV with a 9 out of 10 show and there will always been NV fans that will hate it because it's Bethesda

Sure want to see Kris Kristofferson too, as the body (oh poor Kris, what a "role to play") of Chief Hanlon. Maybe with some holotape of that iconic voice. Such a haunting voice performance in NV.

Many of the Raiders that were captured were tranq by Lucy during the fight in the Vault... Idk how the Op missed that lol

They probably know it's stolen, but I would guess that due to their defeat and scattering in Fallout 2, they don't have enough manpower to get it back. The only place we know of that has a significant Enclave presence at this point in the timeline is Chicago, which is way to far for Wilzig to have walked from, so I don't think they'll try to get it back soon, at least not with brute force

I always thought it was radaway as well

I guess the only justification is that she wasn’t really all that good even given her portrayal. Maybe it was more of a self satisfaction venture as opposed to truly helping those in need. It’s the juxtaposition of wanting so badly to obtain the thing that helps, while doing everything so wrong to achieve it that the mere mention of her name is a curse. Now I’m wondering, what was her plan to get the device in the first place? What if the scientist never ran away? Would capturing Hank still have been that important to get into the vault for? And I’m still confused on how they got the mother’s pipboy to get into vault 32 in the first place

@@extremeencounter7458 I'd definitely believe that she wasn't as "good" as she wanted to seem, but also her ultimate goal was free energy for everyone, and she was with the NCR - it just feels so completely antithetical to her character to have been with raiders and murdering innocents. As for the Pip-Boy though, we do actually have an answer to that! The ghoul with Moldaver at the end was Lucy's mom - clearly she found Lucy's ghoulified mom and got the Pip-Boy off of her. When the overseer told Lucy's brother that she'd buried their mom, that was a lie.