But it didn t last long enough

You want dark places watch 13 reasons why

@@mariamzare4731 I like One Tree Hill more, just a lot more relatable. I actually like how when they did Clays dissociative fugue disorder storyline they didn't make him a crazy psycho unlike Clay in 13 Reasons Why.

@@trinitylivingston1286 He didn't became a psycho it was another him let's say and I'm just saying OTH is real good but for dark places there is better that's all.

This definitely doesn’t happen 😂

I agree!

So this thing actually happens? A man can repress the thought and memory of his child due to emotional trauma like the death of a spouse and then have episodes until such a realization occurs??

Yeah I was young when this originally aired and I thought this was so unrealistic was pretty much the main reason I didn’t like season 9..... so can this be a genuine thing???? (Although I loved the kid, easily the cutest little one they had throughout the whole show)

@@lincimpi1337 yes

Here’s my question, though, why didn’t he remember it when he was finally able to move pass Sara’s death. That was what never made sense to me. OTH was supposed to end with S8, which was why it gave closure to all the original storylines. But adding Logan would’ve made more sense in connection with processing Sara’s death. So why didn’t he start the lapses he had in S9, & start to remember Logan in S8?

@@Halfrek_FYI Because he didn't really heal until after the duplicate was over with, and he realized how much he loved Quinn. I related to this scene because when you repress memories you really do miss details. I'm still missing entire years of my life. I have the same therapist now that I had as a teenager and I don't remember her. I have a family friend I've known my entire life, but only met a few years ago. I trusted her right away and I had no idea why. It was a complete shock when I found out she's been there for me many times and is the blurry person who helped me when I passed out at my moms wedding. Now I know I have memories of her before meeting her more recently, but she's not in them. Trauma is a crazy thing. I didn't have a completely visible thing that talked and comforted me like Sara but I did/do have blurry hallucinations that are replaying moments. When I remember what they represent, they go away. Whenever I feel completely safe, for even a second, I can see a dark tall man and a fear kicks in. Then it's gone and I'm left with that dread with no idea as to why. It's a blurry shadow, it only lasts for a second, and all it does is leave me with the feeling like something bad happened. A lot has happened in my life. Like I said, I don't even remember an entire year of my life. That "shock" moment is real too. The flashing images in your head are like a puzzle solving itself. It hurts. A lot. It's also a relief. In a split second all of these things that didn't make sense suddenly do. When I remember, the exact moment I remembered, was my paps death. I remembered him telling me something and all those other flashbacks I had over the past few years fit into place. Earlier that day, and throughout the past few weeks prior, I was on edge because I knew I needed to remember something and it drove me crazy. I felt like I was being ripped to shred. I couldn't tell up from down and I knew I was onto something so big that I had chosen to forget it in the past, thanks to years of journaling telling future myself to *remember.* I don't know about that state he was in where he was doing things he didn't know about, but being able to forget a person or a year from your life is definitely possible. Leaving messages (or going places as a way to leave messages) is also possible.

Chase isn’t a new character. He’s been there since season 4.

Isn't it? I love this song.

TeamForwood that is the beauty of how this scene was done. They placed Subtle hints to help you come to the realization.

Same for me and my mom!

I cannot understand the whole blocking out his own son. Maybe I just need to do more research on Fugue state as a social worker to try to understand this storyline. But I can't comprehend how he can forget his own son.

Laura Schoenborn when you go through something traumatic (Clay watching his wife die unexpectedly) your mind can oftentimes force you to forget and block out important parts of your life. it's apart of PTSD.

This storyline and Nathan’s kidnapping both felt really out of place imo. I honestly don’t like the ninth season that much, it kind of felt like a different show.

Exactly! It would’ve made more sense for Clay to start having these lapses when he was able to accept Sara’s death, & start a new life with Quinn. It would’ve made more sense to have him start remembering Logan in S8, which gave closure to all the original storylines because they thought there wasn’t going to be a S9. This, & Julian forgetting his son in the car never made sense to me. Julian was 110% NOT that dad. He was resolved to be the complete opposite of his father when it came to his family. He wouldn’t have forgotten Davis in the car. IMO, those were the two worst storylines in S9, although Chase sleeping with Keller’s GF was a close third. Chase wasn’t that douche. Especially considering what happened with his HS GF. They’d have been better off having Alex off filming for S9, & mention in an episode she stopped by (obviously off camera) because she didn’t want to be away from Chase that long. Dan’s redemption & reuniting with Keith in the afterlife was my favorite part.

@@Halfrek_FYI I actually found Julian leaving his son in the car believable. I agree he 100% was not that dad, but he was also sleep deprived as hell that day so wasn't paying attention, so I don't find it all that unbelievable. I also think it was nice as it gave Austin something meatier to work with (I feel like they kind of went overboard with the 'soft Julian' stuff in s8), even if it was only for a few episodes. I agree on the Logan stuff though. I would've preferred if they'd just adopted a child if they didn't want to have their own/do another pregnancy storyline, but I guess thats not enough drama...it would've been a nice throwback to Peyton (or Sam if they did fostering) though, since Brooke didn't end up adopting.

Oncer Girl Yeah, some people didn’t even give the seasons a chance, JUST because Lucas and Peyton were no longer in the show. They didn’t get to experience the new characters and great storylines! For example, Clay and Quinn, Brooke and Julian, and, as you mentioned, the great plot twists, etc.

Hardly comparable. You don't remember your first words because your brain is literally not developed enough to store memories.

Well, yeah. The comparison is a bit far-fetched, on my part. But still. If our minds can store so much information, who’s to say that some of it can’t be taken away, too?

Well, yeah. The comparison is a bit far-fetched, on my part. But still. If our minds can store so much information, who’s to say that some of it can’t be taken away, too?

Well, yeah. The comparison is a bit far-fetched, on my part. But still. If our minds can store so much information, who’s to say that some of it can’t be taken away, too?

dencod18 that was weird but in a way it makes sense. It was still blocked out, b/c he was grieving Sarah still, and even if there were hints he wasn’t ready to hear it. However, when he is finally moving forward with Quinn, he’s ready to listen to it.

Severe trauma can do that. The day my infant daughter died, I made a phone call to one of my best friends. It's been 15 years, & I STILL have NO memory of that phone call, but my BFF has told me about it numerous times.

Yes, severe trauma can do that to you.

slsriflecruman87 he watched his wife die in a matter of minutes right in front of him.. One minute she was fine and then literally the next minute she was dead..

"Sorrowing Man" by City and Colour.

His wife died from an aneurysm and it stressed his brain out so much that he blocked out the painful memories and that included his son. That's why in the begging of the season he was sleep walking to random pool places places where you would take your child to. His brain was trying to remember

Benining*

It's City and Colour - Sorrowing Man kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jqd9d8mHrdncoJ8.html

Lots of people. It happens sometimes when you suffer a severe trauma.

Neither did he. When. His wife died his brain blocked his son out so he didn't remember he had one

"Sorrowing Man" by City and Colour. I'm sure you've learned that by now, though. It's been four years. Lol

Sorrowing man - City & Colour

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