CLEAN AMP DEMO: Fender Super Champ X2 vs Crate Palomino vs Twin Reverb. NO TALKING

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Dr Josh Guitar

Dr Josh Guitar

Күн бұрын

Super Champ X2 15 watt tube combo, 10" speaker upgraded to Cannabis Rex 50W 10". This is a 2 channel amp. Channel 1 is a clean classic Fender tone. Channel 2 has a modelling function with 15 different amp models to choose from.
Crate Palomino (American Made), 30 watts, 12" original speaker, purchased circa 2001, all original (recently replaced all tubes)
Fender Twin Reverb '65 reissue, used, 1998. 85 Watts, 2X12 original Jenson speakers
All amps were recorded using an SM57 microphone, placed perpendicular to the amplifier grille, 2 inches from the center of the speaker cone and 1 inch from the speaker grille, recorded into Logic with no effects or processing.
The guitar used was a Fender Ultra American Telecaster, 2019, neck pickup only; volume on 8 and tone on 8 unless otherwise specified.
TIME STAMPS:
Low Volume Comparisons:
Crate Palomino 0.35
Super Champ: 2:12
Twin Reverb 4:26
High Volume Comparisons:
Crate 7:04
Super Champ 7:51
Twin 8:20
IMPRESSIONS:
The Fender Twin is the cleanest and the loudest (which makes sense given it's wattage advantage). I purchased it in order to play larger venues and not sacrifice clarity. It is superior for performing when using a looper because it provides more clarity with less break up allowing layering of clean and dirty parts. The downside of course is it's weight.
The Crate is almost as loud as the Fender, although in person it lacked some of the bass response of the twin, not surprising given it's size. It breaks up much more than the Twin, and is more suitable for blues and rock playing. Of note, it is extremely loud even at low volume settings (it gets loud between 1.5 and 2, whereas the Twin gets loud between 4 and 5.
The Super Champ X2, with it's much lower wattage and 10 inch speaker, cannot compete in terms of volume. Unfortunately at lower volumes it is also lacking in tone somewhat compared to the other two, in my opinion. It has more features, such as several digital effects and 15 different amp "voices" to choose from. Surprisingly it is has more bass at lower volumes than the other two at lower volumes. I probably could have achieved a better tone with with it if I spent more time tweaking it. The sound of a recorded amp is much different than what it sounds like in person. At very loud volumes, things tend to sound more distorted. Of note, the reverb is much louder in person.

Пікірлер: 45
@NikolausBrocke
@NikolausBrocke 2 жыл бұрын
Without any doubt, the Palomino sounds best. It's an amazing amp.
@ricardoa5626
@ricardoa5626 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree, its an underated amp. amazing sweet tone
@mrshiney2
@mrshiney2 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to comment on your excellent playing, it was very comforting
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Have a great day!
@hog7203
@hog7203 Жыл бұрын
The V32 is my favorite amp. Got one years ago when they first came out. Tried it against every amp in the store. Kept coming back to it. It's loud!!! I like to plug straight into it, no effects, and turn everything wide open if the venue allows it. Mainly use a LP. It responds well to how I play and I get a lot of great tones just by using the guitar volume knobs. Always get a lot of compliments from the sound. Folks usually ask what effects pedals I'm using to get the different tones.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar Жыл бұрын
That's awesome man. Loved this amp when I played in a rock in roll band some time ago. Used it to play quite a few gigs in Waikiki.
@hog7203
@hog7203 Жыл бұрын
@@DrJoshGuitar I saw Big Head Todd play through one at one of his shows. The guitar tech brought it out and laid it back almost completely on its back, and put a mike on it. BHT came out, turned all the knobs wide open, and let it rip. I'd seen him play a few years earlier through a Gibson Gold tone 30 amp before, which sounded great, but the Crate sounded even better Imo.
@jiggzzaw
@jiggzzaw 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent playing my man! Love the tone. Thanks for the comparison demo.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PaulSter
@PaulSter 2 жыл бұрын
Nice - really nice - demo. Thanks for it! I just ordered the Crate V32 head. I remember these from the 90's when the series came out. I was blown away. I was demoing a beautiful ash Strat (that I still have and makes me smile every time I play it) and wanted to get both of them. Alas, I had just ordered a new Egnater TOL 50 2X12 (also still have and love).
@Rambo29
@Rambo29 Жыл бұрын
great playing, I just got a Crate V32 amp and love it. Thanks for uploading this!
@jazzydog
@jazzydog 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo in clean sound👍👍👏👏. Thanks for doing this. Cheers!!
@dmjazz
@dmjazz 2 жыл бұрын
Your playing and style can make any amp sound good. Great vid.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@GtrsaLot-wz2ez
@GtrsaLot-wz2ez 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demoing as all three amps have there advantages. Although I would have to give the overall edge to the Twin since it has glorious spread of two 12" speakers. Full and warm
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
For a jazz gig I’d lug the twin but I gigged with a rock band for years with Crate and loved it. For quiet practice or a cozy jam in a living room the Super Champ sounds great.
@singlefin254
@singlefin254 Жыл бұрын
I like the twin reverb. Love your playing 👏👏👏
@levijessegonzalez3629
@levijessegonzalez3629 3 жыл бұрын
crate sounds the best. wow what great amps they are
@mikebottiaux5850
@mikebottiaux5850 3 жыл бұрын
Great demo! I currently own the Twin Reverb, looking for a smaller practice amp. Had 5 back surgeries, the Super Champ seems to fit that need.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
I like it!
@debradoner2676
@debradoner2676 5 ай бұрын
Quelle classe ce Mr Rivera...
@blazegulizack
@blazegulizack 3 жыл бұрын
That crate has such a creamy tone!
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
It does- I used it for 2 years playing for a cover band in Waikiki and I loved it.
@evelyntelevision
@evelyntelevision Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit surprised to hear that the Palomino absolutely wins to my ears. It feels very open, with a more even frequency response. The other two, particularly the Champ, feel very closed in and dark. A little disappointed because I was looking at getting a Champ! Thanks for the demo, it's very enlightening
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar Жыл бұрын
I think the palomino is more scooped, brighter and naturally slightly overdriven. You could probably get similar sounds from the other amps with some EQ and an OD pedal like a Blues Driver (with the gain low)
@ricardoa2894
@ricardoa2894 Жыл бұрын
why you did not turn on the Bright ON fender Twin ?? why ??
@paulj0557tonehead
@paulj0557tonehead 2 жыл бұрын
Crate V16 Palomino with $2 mod... (remove stage V1b) is a great great amp!
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
That makes it cleaner right? Is there a tutorial someplace on how to do that?
@jasondorsey7110
@jasondorsey7110 7 ай бұрын
Did that make it run any cooler?
@leehanson1416
@leehanson1416 Жыл бұрын
V32 is a great amp. They run REALLY hot (at least my Viet one does). I put cream chickenhead knobs on mine, and run a small fan in the back facing up. There's an extensive thread at one of the guitar sites (guess!) that has lots of mods and tips.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a great amp for blues and rock! I need a totally clean platform nowadays though because I’m playing a lot of jazz. Therefore, I’ve been using a Quilter and it’s super lightweight, loud and sounds pretty good with drive pedals. But it’s really not the same as tubes :)
@goodknight37
@goodknight37 2 жыл бұрын
Take 5🤗
@ithelesser9061
@ithelesser9061 3 жыл бұрын
You made them all sound great, the crate and twin were neck and neck, but I think actually prefer the Crates tone it something a little punchier about it. The super champ was my least favorite of the 3 and seems a bit more congested, but I've played super champs and they're great in their won way. Maybe it's the 10" speaker still not bad sounding though. I wish they made them with an effects loop. Hows the Crate at bedroom/apartment volumes?
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
The crate gets loud really quick. When you put it on 2 it’s already LOUD and 3 is blasting. If you want to play it at a low volume you have to barely nudge the volume knob up to 1. It’s almost as loud as the fender twin even with half the speakers and less than half the wattage..
@ithelesser9061
@ithelesser9061 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate the info. The Crate sounds great but I’m afraid my neighbors might not like the tones at much.
@ithelesser9061
@ithelesser9061 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrJoshGuitar Thanks for letting me know, the tones are great!
@blazegulizack
@blazegulizack 3 жыл бұрын
Very loud!
@JPhi
@JPhi Жыл бұрын
I think the Twin Reverb projects better, oddly enough I feel it through my screen. It has my preference in your comparison. I also own an SX2 with a Cannabis Rex, I play mostly jazz and I like this amp because it is small and easy to handle despite the extra weight of the CR. And also because it is usable in a bedroom and very versatile. I think all 3 amps sound good, you play them nicely. I chose the SX2 for its practicality and because the sound it delivers suits me, the others being heavy and bulky, like my Hot Rod, would stay in the garage.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar Жыл бұрын
I agree. But if you need something small, light and loud, I just got a Quilter. Not bad for solid state.
@JPhi
@JPhi Жыл бұрын
@@DrJoshGuitar Thanks for the suggestion, I was just watching this video and was wondering what amp he was playing. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7eGqMiYzcqaaWw.html But I'm happy with my little Sx2 ;)
@johnbose7454
@johnbose7454 4 ай бұрын
Change the stock Chinese speaker on the X2 and it would’ve been a much better and closer comparison. Also on the X2 voice 3 with the gain rolled back to about 4 produces a much better clean tone than channel 1. More 3 dimensional than voice 16 or channel 1.
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 4 ай бұрын
Thanks I’ll try that!
@sesa2984
@sesa2984 12 күн бұрын
Crate.
@GoldtopSam1
@GoldtopSam1 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison. One has a DSP engine driven by one half of the preamp tube, one is full tube. One is 15 watts, and one is 30(32 watts on spec sheet). the Palomino(Crate built these exclusively for GC) smokes the Fender with lovely, spongey compression. One is tank reverb, one is DSP reverb, one is 10" speaker, one is 12". this isn't a real comparison, say, as running two15 watters side by side. Ya know, Crate made a V15. Woulsd have been a better comparison, as the Fender uses 6V6 tubes and the V15 uses EL84s
@DrJoshGuitar
@DrJoshGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. These were the amps I had on hand at the time.
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