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0:00 - Audible ad 2:20 - Omax ad 4:22 - Helix Sleep ad 6:17 - BetterHelp ad 8:11 - Sean Rogers introduction 9:08 - Podcast starts 9:28 - Don't call him Buck 9:57 - Special Forces, SEALs, and notoriety 11:50 - Why he got the nickname Buck 12:35 - Treatment as the "new guy", testing character, and gnarly poops 14:50 - Why he got the nickname Buck cont. 15:49 - Getting a nickname in the military 16:49 - Comparing ranks between the Navy and Army 19:16 - Sean's recruitment process 23:19 - Army cook school (how long, what you do, etc.) 28:16 - Gene LeBell made Steven Seagall sh*t his pants 29:55 - Sean's career after cook school 31:10 - The physical characteristics of SF guys/SEALs 32:00 - Spoiler alert: You run a lot in training 33:58 - Downed Pilot exercise 36:29 - Training sucks harder when someone's shadowing to write a book 39:45 - Watching a student fail or suffer a medical issue as an instructor 40:24 - Being acknowledged meant everything to Sean 41:50 - Sean's injury and recovery process 43:07 - How Sean got out of being a cook after failing Ranger school 49:17 - Sean enjoyed his deployment doing PSD in Afganistan 51:35 - Where in Afganistan was Sean 52:45 - The National Guard photo and a soldier's viewpoint of getting rest and recovery 56:45 - Sean had a blast on deployment 59:03 - Sean didn't go back to Ranger school and went to SF school instead 59:34 - Changes in selection (changing schedules, women going through training, etc.) 1:02:05 - What is the pipeline for SF? 1:03:40 - Small unit tactics and the importance of the basics 1:05:03 - The emphasis on training in the fundamentals 1:06:31 - Andy wasn't the best in his first training evolutions 1:07:19 - Sean's first deployment as part of SF 1:09:22 - A mysterious man (Jason Bourne) mooched rounds off Sean 1:11:20 - Sean's terrible combat story from his first deployment (almost blew his leg off) 1:17:50 - Sean suffered from some trauma due to his mistake 1:20:05 - Things started working after Sean's mistake 1:22:18 - EOD deserves respect 1:22:35 - How did the rest of Sean's deployment go 1:25:22 - Why Sean quit the military 1:27:19 - What happened to the problematic guy that made Sean want to quit? 1:28:31 - "Chasing the dragon" 1:29:49 - A poorly-made combat decision during Sean's deployment (combat story) 1:36:33 - Don't ignore technological advantages in combat 1:37:30 - Sean's leadership reminded him of his childhood conditions 1:38:55 - The power someone in leadership can have, either positive or negative 1:40:02 - Sean's life after his deployment 1:43:21 - Sean's experience as a LEO 1:44:54 - Was the George Floyd issue a race-related issue or a burnout/PTSD issue? 1:48:29 - How to help officers' mental health 1:50:31 - DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION 1:50:50 - The definition(s) of racism, Sean's lack of experience with racism, and having conversations about it 1:54:22 - The weaponization of the word "racist" and genuinely seeking experience rather than conflict 1:56:45 - Empathizing with those who suffered from racism even if you haven't ever experienced it 1:57:47 - Sean was serving as a LEO during the George Floyd protests and how riots hijacked the movement 1:59:49 - Were protestors and rioters separate groups and shady individuals prepping for riots at night 2:01:41 - How tied were Sean's hands during riots at night? 2:03:06 - Why Sean left the force and mistrust between police and their leadership 2:04:52 - What did rioters want and where did they come from? 2:07:40 - The Capitol rioters and protestors 2:11:00 - The future of law enforcement's relationship with the public 2:13:35 - The hardships of seeing child abuse as a LEO, particularly for Sean 2:16:40 - When did Sean's childhood trauma start with his mom? 2:18:00 - Sean's experience with one of his mother's boyfriends 2:19:35 - Sean realized at 8-years-old that he was becoming a different person 2:20:22 - Sean's childhood traumas cont. (mom drove the car into the house, mother being beaten, boyfriends, etc.) 2:24:12 - How Sean left his mother for his dad 2:30:43 - Sean had to leave his sister back when he left 2:31:24 - Sean's lack of contact between his family members 2:33:23 - How has Sean processed and grew through his life of struggles? 2:36:20 - Therapy, PTSD, personal growth, and victimhood 2:43:23 - Sean is raising his children to have no excuses 2:45:05 - Has Sean forgiven his parents, or can he ever forgive them? 2:48:33 - "...people are an amalgamation of their experiences..." 2:51:23 - Seeking external validation 2:53:13 - What's Sean got next in his life? 2:54:08 - Sean's close friends' reviews of his book 2:55:00 - Sean started a KZfaq channel 2:56:26 - Sean's personal goal or dream 2:57:30 - How to find and support Sean 2:58:44 - How many fat Green Berets are there? 3:00:53 - Outtro and how to spread Cleared Hot like America does democracy Figured out my comments were being deleted because YT doesn't like links in the comments, so no more links to the advertisement sponsors. Totally wasn't Andy's fault. Hope everyone has a great week! PS: Who wins a fight between Jocko armed with dildo nunchucks vs Mike Glover armed with a fleshlight on the end of a PVC pipe? GO!

What I learned in the military "Never stand, when you can sit. Never sit, when you can lay down and never stay awake, when you can sleep, because you never know when you you will get another chance!"

When it starts with a pull off a whiskey bottle like that, you know its gonna be a good one 🇺🇸

Sean is a shining example of a good person. The fact that, despite his background, he became such a well-rounded and level-headed person is an incredible testament to his character. Fantastic episode. Far and away my favorite podcast right now.

One thing you gotta love is when a dude come one who was a former green beret and cop and first thing Andy want to know everything about is his time as a cook in the army

Crazy subbed to Buck like 3 months age when he had 1-2k subs he’s killing it now congrats

Outstanding conversation. Sean talking about his childhood was like reliving mine. It's incredibly important to hear other men reveal their vulnerabilities/experiences because we, as men, are typically just told to "man up.' This podcast provides an incredible service.

Probably the best Cleared Hot episode to date, and I've been listening since the beginning

Thank you, Andy! And Sean! What a way to start a Monday! "You can't be a victim when no one gives a sh**." Sean "Buck" Rogers, January 2021.

I left my department for similar reasons Buck mentioned. 1,000 word resignation letter. I drove away after the exit interview in tears. Didn't want to leave them, they left me.

“He was all eggs in the basket with that maneuver” is my new favorite saying.

De Oppresso Liber - “To free the oppressed.” Sean Rogers has lived the life of “the oppressed” & has freed himself. Now, he’s continuing to move forward by helping others. Well done!! I’ve just ordered your book. Thank you, Andy, for another terrific podcast. I pray each of you stay healthy, happy, & safe. :-)

is there anything better than a Monday drop when Monday is Mondaying you harder than usual Monday's?

Damn, 3 hours and I didn't want the conversation to end. Powerful and entertaining.

From a Aussie fella, Just want to say buck Rogers beers n breakdown brought me here. And this really hit home for me and few different topics. I have been enjoying beers and breakdown and started watching more of your academy stuff which I think is super awesome keep up the good work mate. I been sprucing your content to my friends and yea. Nice work. Really enjoying these podcasts. You both talk alot logic and common sense. Thankyou

I'm not a super emotional guy, but watching this made me feel things I haven't in a long time. Thank you to both of you. A very powerful podcast!

Sean: Describes his bad leader experience on Andy's podcast. Jocko: *Breathes heavily*

He seems so comfortable with Andy, I’m glad knowing by him talking about these past issues are helping him!

Wow I thought I was the only person that had to deal with this kind of stuff and seeing podcast like this really puts my life in perspective. I just wish I had heard these stories earlier in life because hearing them helps. Thanks Andy for providing the platform and thanks Sean for being willing to talk about the bad shit in your childhood.

2:48:25 Andy's reaction at this point plus the following "Fuck, man." is pretty much how I felt the entire podcast.

As I am not a native english speaker (yes, you have a French audience in case you din't know), I consider myself extremely lucky to be able to listen to you both discussing all these topics. "Buck" seems to be an awesome dude, and what he went through is really tough. Big respect to both of you, big respect for sharing these thoughts and stories, for your honesty and your sense of humor. Regards

Man, hearing how he grew up reminds me of my own past. Growing up in an abusive household with a psychotic older brother who used to beat the shit out of me every day while my family watched and did nothing. Arguing, yelling, screaming, fighting, drug use, cops and crime every single day. I know pretty much know exactly what he's been through. I'm glad it got better for you, man. You're a really strong guy. This was an extremely good podcast.

So refreshing to see someone smash "the cycle" and get out a shit upbringing. Keep em coming Andy and keep it going Sean.

I thought people were outraged that the soldiers were sleeping in a garage. Not that they were lazy but thats the enviroment they were forced to sleep in.

Thank you for the acronym translation for us civilians. Much appreciated.

One of the best I've listened to so far. Dudes had me laughing several times.

Wow, that’s a lot of stuff in this pod cast. Very brave of Sean to expose hisself and his past. It takes a lot to unload this stuff to the world. Great job guys. Keep it up.

Sean; I hope you will go see a good therapist; I did and it changed by life. Smartest thing I ever did. I found out that while my parents were wrong, they had their problems too, AND KNOWING ALL THAT didn’t change the fact that only I could fix ME. You’ve done well - keep going!

This is one of the most powerful and insightful podcast interviews that I have ever watched. Andy has a an innate ability to connect with those that he interviews and draw out the essence of what makes them who they are thru their experiences. I Love Sean's brutal honesty and ability to take a critical look at his own mistakes as well as his personal growth. IMO that says a LOT about his humility and character.

After all that he has gone through, I now realize that my excuses are just stupid.

Hands down one of the best conversations I've heard in my life.

Sorry you had to go through that as a kid Sean. I keep commenting because different parts make me have a different reaction. I had a fucked up childhood as well and don’t wish that on anyone. Glad that you turned out the way you did brother. Much love, semper fi

One of the best if not the best podcasts I have ever heard. I thought I had it tough as a kid but Sean’s story puts shit into perspective.

Andy:PLEASE tell me you went in as a cook Sean:I did Andy:YESSSSSSSS!!!😂😂😂

Blessed be this day, when great men came together.

Book purchased before I was even done watching this. Thank you both for the amazing discussion.

Andy and Sean, thank you so much for taking the time and sharing this powerful story. So many of Seans life rings so close to home for my own childhood. I am looking forward to picking up the book and reading it. Thank you again

Love listening to Sean. I could not turn it off. Andy was spot on with his interview skills. Get the whisky ready this episode delivers!

Andy this was great. Sean is a Badass dude. You can tell he’s a savage who tames his beast and is a great person. Thank you for this one.

Doooooooood. I just saw this. Now my day just got better. Can’t wait to hear this one! I love BOTH these guys. Role models, bad asses, solid solid guys, and heroes both.

Man I'm stoked for this one! Been watching Buck on his channel FNG for a while and look forward to his story!

Incredible story of resilience! Thanks for sharing your success at life and overcoming!

This has to be one of the best podcast I've ever heard thank you you guys are two of the coolest things that ever lived.

“Why don’t you tell me about it” is 100% my favorite thing to say to Commissioned bois

INCREDIBLE pod cast!!!! LOVED this one!!! So honest, so vulnerable, fantastic!! You guys being able to have these difficult conversations and making it "ok" to do SO.....soooo many people you're touching!!!!

Epic show! Kudos to Sean for being so open and honest about his life experiences. Keep up the great content Andy.

I love this guy…. One of my favorite podcasts, ever.

Probably tied for 1st as the most powerful podcast you’ve done Andy. ( The bullying lady is the other one) Sean, you are an awesome human being sir. Thank you for your military and police service and Keep Hammering!!

This podcast gave me so many laughs throughout. Andy, we’re all fortunate that you have taken the bull by the horns to do podcasting. You two are great humans, as are all your guests! 💪

Rewatched this podcast you guys are being role models for so many people just by sharing your experience and your resilience its inspiring man thank you

Wonderful episode. It's really something to hear about how someone navigates the ups and downs of the human experience. Definitely appreciate hearing this conversation.

OUTSTANDING INTERVIEW and a great person Sean Rogers.

8:09 guest introduction

I LOVE THESE PODS! Sean "Buck" Rogers was a great guest!

Sean's story and life is inspiring. Everyone should hear it. What an incredible human being.

One of the best episodes to date.

This is my favorite guest so far. I can relate with a lot of it. A lot of the same demons if you will. Much respect.

Really enjoy listening to both of you. Appreciate Sean telling his story and Andy for having him on.

My grandfather was a cook in the Army during WW2 and it gave him a great career after. He went on to be a chef for an Italian restaurant for 30 years. Granted, it was owned by the local mob, but they all loved him even though he was Chinese and they paid him extremely well.

28:17 Oh my god 🤣 how happy was Andy when Steven Seagal got brought up 🤣🤣🤣 I feel like Sean watches the podcast

Mad respect! Everyone I know was mad they slept on concrete not that they were sleeping.

This is by far the best podcast I've watched in a long time....... Highly recommended

Very powerful, kudos for having the courage to share 😊

By far the most accurate, sensitive, honest description of psychological challenges law enforcement officers face on a daily basis that I have watched thus far. Mental health counseling is an issue you guys poignantly stated is largely ignored by almost everyone concerning law enforcement. Thanks to both of you, and Sean, goddammit, thanks for pouring your heart out bro! Andy, absolutely on point, riveting interview.

"9mm Vest, Pistol and a grenade launcher with no ammo..." I have so many questions for that guy...

Andy, keep this going. Great pod cast, love your sense of humor, and your thoughtfulness in the way you interview folks.

That was a great show. I’m glad he shared his experiences.

What an episode!!! Andy has become the all around military podcast.... love jocko n min immensely but Andy is just a great fun dude 🇺🇸

Out of all the guests you've had. I identify with Sean the most as fas as our childhoods go. Awesome dude and mad props for turning that frown upside down.

Raw and real. That is why I love this channel!

I gained an insane amount of respect for Sean after watching this. Watching his youtube channel I never thought I would relate to him on so many levels but I do. IDK if I'm subbed to him but will be now for whatever that's worth

Man this dude has such a similar story of abuse. I was going to join the military at 18 years old. Cut my toe off with a lawnmower and had to go through a year of physical therapy to learn to walk again. Thankfully my life has really turned around since then. Thanks for sharing, even if it wrenched my gut to listen to those parts

Dude. My feelings or lack there of, for my mother, mirrors yours exactly. There is a black void where she should be.

I grew up in Nigeria before my family moved to the U.S. roughly 18 yrs ago when I was around 14. Compared to this man's childhood, mine felt like paradise.

What an amazing podcast. I can relate to some of these topics. So inspirational. Thank you so much guys.

Powerful story. Ill be getting his book.

This guy had it tough. Best question of the whole interview, "Are you doing that on your own or do you have outside help?" Then see the reaction to that answer... Yeah that is exactly how I felt. I hope it all works out the best. IMHO First step is putting your hat on straight. ;) Just saying. Thanks for having him on.

Best episode so far. Thank you both.

Love this podcast! Awesome job Andy and Sean..thanks for sharing and bringing about awareness for us LEOs...You are spot on..rotating off the street and having resources available..safe resources would make our profession exponentially better. It will get worse before it gets better I am afraid. Andy...I think you would have made an awesome Green Beret!

Was following both andy and buck for a long time. i knew this was coming as soon as sean mentioned he was in montana awesome

1:19:40 - this hit so close to home man. When I got to work with ODAs down range (I was infantry), I was on the Mk-47 one fire fight and I was SO not paying attention (it was my first fire fight and my head was everywhere) and I was returning fire with my weapon system, fired some 40mm at this house we were getting shot at from, didnt notice the little stick trees in my line of fire and ALSO didnt notice our Echo took a few ALP with him to move across the field and flank the house. My rounds were hitting the stick trees and all of them just exploding right over the echos head. thankfully, him and the ALP guys were totally fine - to this day thinks it was an RPG that was fired at him (if youre reading this bro - sorry you found out this way hahahaha) and man, for weeks it ran through my head over and over and over that I seriously made a big fucking mistake. I did eventually own up to my own mistake and just learned from it and it made me a better soldier but I totally see where that mindset comes from. it sucks

That was a fantastic and uplifting thing to listen to. I appreciate the candid nature and I can relate in a LOT of ways. Good on both of ya.

Thank you Andy. Wow, Sean is an amazing person, thank you for bringing his story to everyone. You Sir have stood up a platform that your pal Joe Rogan should be thrilled to know you're crushing it. Keep well Mr. Stumph.

At 41:00 oh man. I teared up. Keeping it real.

LOL “you’re talking about a non garage setting?”

Hell yeah been looking forward to seeing Sean sense he mentioned he would be on. Two of my favorite guys together at last

Great podcast! Good on you, Sean, for taking those excuses and turning them into tools to become a better person. Not only become a better person but, to help others become better.

Hey Andy, hope you’re well. I know Jocko has done it five or six times, but I think you interviewing John Stryker Meyer (AKA Tilt) would be amazing if you haven’t thought about it.

I tune in to the cleared hot podcast for my daily dose of sarcasm

I love watching these types of podcasts. Listening to them unload heavy shit n how much it takes to do that... it blows me away. I think more people should watch these, hear the message, learn from other people’s experience and grow as a person. This is truly powerful stuff. Thank y’all 🤙🏽🇺🇸

Amazing story!!! As a mom My heart hurts for his childhood. So thankful he rose above and came out the other side. Thanks for sharing and setting an example to others. And a great example of how people should come together to make positive change God bless.

On women in SF - Jocko spoke with Dean Stott about this. He put a woman through the SAS training knowing that if they didn't, the higher ups would've lowered the standards because they wanted women in SF.

Wheelbarrow? I always thought the E.O.D. people rode their gigantic balls to the battle space like Randy Marsh.

As a prior service member. I really appreciate this conversation. Brings back so many memories.

Great podcast Sean was really able to go in depth and paint a picture of his life and what he's been through

Oh fuck yeah. 2 of my favorite Americans in 1 podcast: Andy Stumpf and Bob Ross

My dad had flashbacks. It's fucking gnarly too. It was so prevalent for him that he taught us from an early age to stay away if he was having one. If we heard him get up and move around more than normal in the middle of the night, we were to hide in the closet. I remember one vividly. I watched him from my bedroom window, army crawling through the front yard. He was yelling & making sound effects. It was so wild. Like he legitimately thought he was back in the jungle fighting for his life.

Hell yeah .. two respected operators on the same POD. Happy Monday!

Fantastic interview, the two of you meshed extremely well!!! @Andy Stumpf great job 👏 really impressed with the way you discuss topics and ask questions!!!