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Basically

No. Its thiss. Mal. I was round u when u was broke living with me for years. I joined because u asked me to. And made nd helped the podcast grow. Rory. Nothing to say. Just look at how joe disrespects rory and says shut up rory all the time. And say i wont let a person like u talk to me like that. But when rory responds the same, joe says rorys trippn theyre supposed to be friends. Bjt joe only disrespects rory and tslks down to him. Joe. I want money. I want the status. I wanna be big time. I love this life and i will cut off my friends to keep the money for the moment going. Moral of story. Joe should kno money and things dont last forever. He takes his rap career failure and overshoots everything. I see a fake dude in joe. That want attention and is delusional.

Bingo

@@bbkingme8831 LOL no. Original comment is correct.

Its facts tho. U don't owe anybody anything. I don't respect someone that demands respect or anything from me just cuz we cool

@@ThisisStephennn okay Joe

@@ThisisStephennn This is a terrible take. Mal and joe are long term friends, they owe eachother respect. What long term friends do you have that you don't respect? None. Otherwise you wouldn't be friends.

@@DrGameNwatch you don't owe anybody anything, you people with this enticement shit are crazy, I choose to respect you if I don't you have the choice to be my friend or not. We all have choices and are not obligated to do anything . Secondly as long term friend mal should've showed up for joe on the pod that's why Joe said he never though mal would've left him hanging like that🤦🏽‍♂️

@@DrGameNwatch you still owe them nothing. Get out of your feelings. You give them respect because they are your friends. But, first and foremost you give them respect because they're a human. But you owe your friend nothing. Giving respect to your friend or to anyone is part of being courteous and being a good person. How much respect you give varies on the history, interactions and experiences you've had with the person.

Fam lol PLEASE tell me just threw that out there nd u didn’t seriously count

@@Jaxon_FG24 🤣🤣🤣

Lmfao

“That’s crazy”

if you ever listen to Joe he always been that type he speaks really well what may sound like apology for him owning up sometimes be deflections

False. Rory and Mal are actually the two insensitive ones and obv they were plotting for a min. it’s easy to lead someone to act a certain way and then “call” them out for the action that you created.

When did y’all think he was a sensible guy? Lol have y’all not been following his career? Dudes been a maniac

@@ishort8401 My thoughts have nothing to do with Rory and Mal, so you can save the chat about sensitivity. Listening to Joe, he was talking like he doesn't value honour or loyalty.

@Joseph Brandon you’re right. He’s literally ALWAYS been this way. Joe Budden pretty much created the love and hiphop culture with all his internet drama. He is literally one of the first to be a celeb and have his drama continuously aired out on social media. We know too much about Joe to ever think one day he’s going to wake up a mentally and emotionally stable man.

Exactly, Joe could of been way more brutally honest about this situation but because they are friends he took it easy on them. Mal out of line talking about he should of stop the pod and it’s something he help built. Hell no Joe built that shit he just took them for the ride.

Just like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@jasondavis244 man shut up

@@treybear8174 so what’s your take on this?

Or maybe you name the podcast after you lol

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

He talmbout respect

He didn’t say it enough🥴

Lol🤣🤣🤣😂✌🏿

ha haha ha ha

I am!

It makes me sick that ppl still support Joe Budden! This D+ rapper now turned businessman is nothing but a black eye on black ppl. Facts! Why isn't joe being cancelled? He has blatantly stole from his friends and co hosts..he then blatantly lied about why he fired them! He then sexually harassed a black woman so why his he still on the air? Is this what you support? This is acceptable..? In my opinion it is not and he needs to go!

This shit is even more interesting to watch after watching their response. To watch how fake joe is being while they’re opening up about everything is crazy

Mal will forever be one of the realest dudes to ever walk the planet 💪🏾

Lol overpaid employees. The show was fire without them their for weeks. And started before they were added to the podcast. They don't have a brand without Joe 😂

Yep! I watch SO many old pods going back to the 200’s (some of the very best!). Compilations too because I have been a supporter from the beginning. I watch & listen to both of their pods now, supporting them. They brought me so many laughs and joy together!

@@ifrr8337 you're not alone in your sentiments 😒

Same

Get over it.

Joe needs to get got

Yep I read the room✌🏾🇬🇧

With Mal maybe

because mal is emotional

@@karlsylvain Joe is too. This isn't going to end well with those two.

Fax!

Joe the boss them niggas the workers

@@jean522 bro dead ass worker not partners big difference i don’t get it mal mad because Rory got sent home lol wtf

Totally off topic.. thats a fine ass avi 👀👀👀

Never

Facts 🤣🤣🤣

Mal is a real one. One of the realest out there.

I agree, he ain't no pretender.

He’s confident in what he speaks about. The other two aren’t.

Yeah, Rory was faking it for the pod, Mal was dead serious, wasn't feeling the vibe and kept it real.

@@revirdkcalb Roary was tryna keep his job Mal already knew that they was fired.

I caught that too. He does it often and it’s fine but in a serious convo like this and doing it it comes off like a narcissist for sure.

@Glen Gaines Joe's been a narcissist since forever though. Glad they went their separate ways and are prospering. Hate the pod broke up still tho. I lean more to Mal and Rory than I do Joe. I knew of Joe first but I also felt I couldn't keep just giving him a pass, so to say 🤷🏿‍♂️ Almost like enabling a alcoholic. I just couldn't keep doing it. I tap in with Joe's pod every now and then but I can't respect how he handled this situation.

Prolly decided to replace them at that point

Charlemagne was right. The moment Joe named the JBP it was a countdown to this day. Joe's a rights holder and in the content game that's all that matters and Joe knows it. he could cut them in with equity but off this episode, don't see that happening.

He is though

He finally said it

Oh yeah, but some random internet nigga knows it OK 👌🏽

@@kaaiwilliams3629 lol you telling truth. Everyone is a damn yin yang master at human relations.

@@kaaiwilliams3629 The subreddit is worse

@@kbhaze6862 Worse than the KZfaq comment section?

Damn.

Was he though

@@beeeee4042 yes, he was lol

@@JonJayAllDay lol you must not know who his brother is

That bag little.

Eh! Would he get that bag w/o the opportunity, given?

Agreed!!

He came in waiting to give that “so what” story

Yeah bruh. JOE is so conceited it makes me wanna punch something.

Once joe gave his sarcastic Cool at (21:40) go look at how Mal's demeanor changes. He's been around him long enough to know Joe was on his bullshit.

That’s Joe tho. He’s emotional, unstable and arrogant. He’s a joke. Idek why people care to listen to any opinion he has. Dude can’t accept he chose the wrong lane, was a failure compared to his peers (because of his personality) and he’ll always self-destruct. Joe made everything about Joe without even once considering their feelings which sums up Joe as a person. Joe loves Joe and has blinders on for any criticism; constructive or otherwise!

I’d go as far as all three of them will never be the same, that’s why I think they shouldn’t have returned. As men they have no self respect. They returned and got put in their place for the world to see✌🏾🇬🇧

facts. This has been eye-opening for Mal. He'll never look at Joe the same. I went through the same shit with a friend. Loyalty & respect is everything.

& it’s all joes fault

MAL literally said he was upset Joe tried to replace them These dudes in their feelings

that's a LIE , they would be much better !! Men usually don't get the chance to DETOX , this was much needed therapy for all of them . Very Healthy !!!

Not gonna lie I probably would’ve laughed if I was Joe’s friend LOL but I at least also understand frustration with that moment.

Right! When he brought that story up you can tell he was salty about them laughing at him.

Yep Joe the worst kind of friend....hold on to the past, then bring it up later as the excuse for his poor behavior. I couldn't be friends with Joe

No he's using that incident as an excuse to. Validate his actions and feelings towards his boys. These are mutually exclusive occurrences.

He took that personally * Michael Jordan voice

You know why he couldn’t. He was using the company’s accountant to do his personal accounting and billing it to the company.

@@shiohbandecker3643 He was definitely doing something wrong with it.

He could not show them accounting because he stole the 400,000

All facts..joe cries about def jam abusive accounting n then ...does it to his partner's

@@fixitfelix718 narcissists never want done to them what they do to other, they feel like they’re above people for whatever reasons.

No he doesn't Bc ice and ish don't want to pod twice a week. They sat in as a favor but they don't care to pod

Ain't gone lie I like Ice and Ish better.

@@FolkLoreNoName well they don't want to pod so y'all just gonna have to do with what they already gave y'all

Word

@@megmur1766 You think if Joe offers them a contract they're going to decline? Before JBP, I had no clue who Ish was and only knew Ice as a twitter troll lol. What else do they have going on that's going to give them this type of exposure?

😂😂😂

Joe is Nene. Rory is Kim. Mal is Sheree.

@@Pistolwhipperz For Rory and Amal you have to name people who aren’t in the show. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭

🤣🤣

@@JustXavier BLOOP! LoL!

🤡

Pump it up 😂

How niggas in Joe pocket who he's trying put on. They was suppose use tye platform to go get the bag. This the thing Jay-Z did, Jay didnt want niggas in his pockets. Shit Joe brung them niggas M's.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

💯% I REALLY KNEW JOE WAS A CLOUT CHASER. I KNEW IT AFTER HE TOOK HIS SHOT AT 50. Lolol THE DUDE IS A STRAIGHT UP PAIR OF CLOWN SHOES!!!!!

😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯

In a nutshell. On one hand Joe let them come back even though everyone on this thread knows the show was gonna be successful without them. On the other a fucked up way to show Rory whos runs this shit! But who should have sat who down first. They both were wrong for they way they handled their emotions. IM with Mal Friends go thru shit but RESPECT IS NON NEGOTIABLE. I love this podcast!

😆 funniest comment ever!

Thank you lol

Yep.

Pretty much!

the stooge is back

if dealing with joe was my main source of income I'd have stress in my eyes too

@@blahblahblah9267 go listen to charla if you hate joe so much.

@@karlsylvain Joe is great to listen to because he’s entertaining, terrible terrible friend tho

lil ak buried him

Exactly

No need to pretend she got a little bit of drama with her friends.

Fans go away sometimes they come back.

Underrated comment lol

Cadence and everything lol

Oh damn 😂😂😂 On a separate note, just off your username, you hype about 'Rurouni Kenshin: The final/The beginning'? Or you watched it already?

@@mildmayheadless5217 I just put this as my username as a random throwback haha. I didn't know a live action movie was coming out. Tbh most live action films based off anime tend to be trash so I stay away from them

@@hitokiribattousai6114 Haha, aiiight! Totally get it. It's def hard to translate the action in anime to a live setting. Thanks for the answer.

Joe owns the pod he doesn’t owe Mal any explanation. Mal just has to turn up, play with his phone and occasionally have some input, tap dance for his celebrity friends and cash his check✌🏾🇬🇧

When Joe tried to reach him for 3 days then he randomly showed up to the pod to press Joe in from of parks and sayvon howd that go... I need the details of that convo because I'd prolly tell mal to same thing. It's like yo I tried to reach you but you purposely ignored me to try and use some type of embarrassment tactic. And not only are you no longer asking about rory like you claimed, you reading these comments online so you came to talk business? I thought you were the cool guy. Nothing matters because your set.

@@jayburnham3994 yeah. You can’t talk about there seemingly being no rush to fix it AFTER I tried to reach you for three days and then on your time when you feel like it, pop up tryna talk. That’s wack

@@LesRed aaaaand there is the disconnect because he was telling the viewers when the Spotify deal ended that he comes to them about business dealings... That must have been bullshit

It's definitely shaky af

Jamil will be fine

I just said this to my husband the other day...Rory and Joe were always professional friends so I can see that returning with ease but Mal and Joe is a whole different story...

Mal shouldn’t have turned his back on the homie.

@@b.o.1951 he didn't, he was playing mediator & in turn Joe basically told him to back off since nothing belongs to him and he's only a part time employee. Safe to say it hurt Mal's feelings and he probably doesn't care about contributing to the show much.

“Just don’t hit me” - Joe

I think his mind was set from the get up. He NEVER looked at them as friends but as subordinates and employees

Fr

Right! Cuz he was very disrespectful in this podcast

Mal is that you??

Joe just treated them like some random ass bitches and tried to ghost them. No respect at all.

Few days not weeks

Fired on your day off

Well what joe did was low, you don’t tell someone take couple of days off then hit him with the no show card,

@@rachellee8755 but they took weeks off not days

@@godfatther6837 I apologise then

nigga I put the sponge down and said fuck the dishes. the water was too loud over this shit right here.

william looool

@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lhhhhhh

@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lmao

@william u a fool 😂😂

💯

yup

Was you and your girl making millions together? No. Than its not the same.

@@muhammedalli19 those 2 bums make like 27-30k a year. Joe pays them monthly salary.

@@deneshbm5656 nahhhh no way is that a fact 😳

Then they won’t last too many episodes like that before they implode again

I am, 30 people should starve their kids so that Rory and Mall can stay in their feelings? Everybody in the comments definitely from the hood only thinking with y'all hearts and loyalty.

@@72vince27 they forget that part

@@damian999x7 AK actually spoke the truth about these guys. Mall slept in Joe crib and Rory used to be a dusty college grad looking for a job. Joe set them up nicely, now look at them.

@@72vince27 thank you bro I just wrote a long ass comment saying some of the same stuff.

Yeah. He not here laughing and trying to joke like Rory is.

He doesn’t lol. He only wants to hear what will benefit him or agree with his narrative. He’s shown many times in the past and now if you don’t automatically agree with what he says he’s done with you whether you’re boys family business partners whatever. He’s just destructive in every way. Manipulative, narcissist, liar and backstabber. That’s not just an opinion either if you watched joe buddens career and can’t see that you’re blind. Just another great thing on a big list that joe has single handedly ruined.

Narcissist have a special way of shooting them selves in the foot. The only time they are not shooting them selves in the foot is when they’re reloading.

@@troyperry411 don’t forget the number 1 podcaster

@@robinrobinson2354 I mean that’s your opinion you’re entitled to. I certainly wouldn’t say he’s the number 1 podcaster that’s just ridiculous lol. He might be your number 1 podcast but in the actual podcast world, hell no. The podcast was way better with Rory and mal.

@@troyperry411 he is my number 1 podcast. Complex released a list and he was number 1 on that list, initially that’s what I was referring to…yeah I didn’t make that up

Ayyyy Brilliant idiots gang

BI podcast brought me here! This two work for Joe, they took some time figuring that.

Schultz not funny

@I hate He hers and he him be normal yup he’s getting to the bag

Watched this after BI. Schulz was too funny but real talk mal looks weak I see Joe’s point lol

@Boy George both mal and rory have equity in the company. they're not employees

@Boy George lmao yeah Ak foreshadowed this shit for so long

Agreed. I still can't help but look at Joe a little bit sideways though. Any man who thinks he doesn't owe his friends respect won't have many good ones when push comes to shove.

@@bmc5180 Agreed. Joe has Ice & Ish on his “team” now but admittedly, Joe & Ish didn’t speak for years over something that was big enough. I’ve been riding with the JBP from the beginning but Joe can be Joe and as viewers/supporters on the outside… we can see how difficult he can be at times. I watch them separately now…

Damn, what up Mac! Good perspective, Joe seems like he holds a grudge and hasn't matured at all from this. Better for them all to call it a day before they lose their friendship.

Fax

Agreed! It's a fucking shame too. Like Mal said, if you ain't respect the shit won't work.

One more incident and it’s over

Rory and Mal need a part ownership of the podcast

😭😭

😂😂😂

💀😭

🤣🤣

😭😭😭😂

Elaborate?

​@kyanalowe8256 the fact that Mal and rory didn't understand that they are workers is very delusional...and made this whole conversation crazy to me. Watching this for this millionth time for clarity

@@deelow828 agreed!

That's not what he said. He said no one is "owed" respect but he chooses to do so

How he tried to make the argument that respect isn't owed amongst friends, and then turns around and accuses them of "abandoning the show." I love Joe but he is truly unbearable. When Mal said Joe told him the pod is none of his business and Joe didn't bat an eye was very telling. He doesn't respect them at all, but anything less that blind allegiance he takes personally. He absolutely is a narcissist.

@@KC-nh6be everyone is owed respect, ESPECIALLY you're friends & family.

And It's crazy that he's 40 but still hasn't realized this

You said everything i was thinking. The sad part is we knew before hearing them discuss the incident that it was Joe who f'd it up. The comments on the first 2 episodes with Ice, and Ish was majority of fans saying Joe did/said something stupid. Its his track record. He NEVER takes accountability when he screws stuff up. All he does is make excuses, or try to convince us its not him. I love the POD, but Joe has to come back down to earth. He has let fame and money go to his head. Why would you risk ppl who genuinely got your back?

I bet none of y'all ever seen a million

@@raheemharris26 don’t matter. Everybody that’s still around if doing just fine. Better that way than for one or 2 of us to be millionaires

@@raheemharris26 none of us put hands on women either since I see where you goin with this

Truth!

You don't even know these ppl, this KZfaq bro

Noticed that too had to run it back a few times

He played it again at 1:15:55, I always wondered if Joe did it by mistake or on purpose

@@savannahwilliams7027on purpose dude is meticulous like that

@@Goodnightsrest Just went back to watch again man, this nigga pointed to Parks and smiled. 🫠 Smh

I wouldn't be able to do this lol

You are a smart man. Can’t say the same for myself. 😂

Facts I did it a couple times and it was awkward

That's dumb. Someone like Mal is a valuable friend to have in your corner at work. Just sift out the Joe's who ride only for self

Some co workers are cool

Which is dumb on his part cause he's built nothing by himself in his career. He's always had people contribute

😂😂😂😂

This got me screaming but no fr😭😭😭😭

@Mr Man everything u just named was assisted and co built by other people. Even Joe's rap career. What beats did joe make? Joe had his crew and OGs pushing his tapes and CDs on the streets for years till he got a buzz

😂😂😂 Its well documented though that he did

Flippa!!!!

Yep Joe just got tired of being the little man, his rap career labels never prioritised him over other artists, complex profited off what he built and didn’t want to pay him more. He preached about how sick the industry is and how Spotify did them dirty but the more money he got he turned into the industry people and treated his friends exactly how industries treated him.

Or it changes the people around you

@@FreeBandz658 You clearly only been around Joey for a few years. You’re stupid for saying this, joe gave them a table and brought them the fucken food when they had nothing. You are lost.

Facts.

@@mathews5276 So because someone did a kind act for you, you cant reevaluate a contract? Get real

That shit ain’t have nothing to do with parks. He supposed to crash out and fck up his bag for some shit he didn’t care about?? lol that makes someone a lap dog?? Y’all all worked somewhere where the boss fired a friend of yours and you didn’t quit did you? You ever think parks just rode because he was like well why imma be broke just cuz mal in his feelings y’all dumb af.

Anyone who says it's about respect and not money are always lying. Turns out these two employees was trying to audit Joe books for years.

@@CodeRed1991 to be fair that was rory

@@CodeRed1991 Rory just need to turn up to work on time and shut his mouth 😂. Mal making it seem like respect but it’s the money!

Omg yes

@@ab-xf3mh 00

Best comment of the day

But Rory does it with his friends with DP. And they make it work because they respect each other

@@pryncessdi9358 It can go right but it can also go very wrong like you see here.

It can be fine. That's overblown.

They was tryn force it bond was already broken

+laneesha1000 facts, unfortunately 💯

They work for him

@@Del_116 if he was smart he would end their employment. this episode proves they all delusional. especially mal. he literally has always added the least to the show. and rory been using jo for a come up since he met him.

@@Del_116 what does that have to do with anything?

We see all the years of therapy and working on himself still has 40 year old Joe emotionally stunted. Talking to life long friend who you lived with for over a decade and saying "you're supposed to ride with me" and in the same breath "so what!?

@@Del_116 no they don't they started the podcast together

This is underrated 😀😀😀

😂

Ruuury runts

He is embarrassed and pissed

😂😂😂

That's all he was trying to say. He didn't like the "owe" word.

But you do owe friends respect. Even if you don't like how your friend is moving you don't immediately start moving like its beef or you never fucked with them anyway. Its a certain way of moving and Joe just don't understand that. He's always had this problem tho

Dame dash had ownership unlike mal or rory.

@@raheemharris26 he just talking bruh Niccas say anything for a response

Except joe acting like dame.

@@raheemharris26 ownership of what

@@timbradford1673 dame owned part of rocafella. Mal and rory don't own anything

LIES!!!!

FR... They all sitting mad far from each other. The tension could be cut with a knife.

He's like that every show tho

Well then why come back? He could just stay home frfr lol 😂 I’d rather ish be in his place anyway lmaooo

@Boy George ain’t nobody abt to watch that shit lmaooo

That's not what the contract says though... otherwise only Joe signs it.. just how he sees it.

@@richiestu8223 we don’t know what the contact saids tho, I’m sure Joe owns most of the podcast & had a bigger take home pay then then both. Let’s be real Joe name brought us here to watch to watch the podcast not Mal & Rory

HES THERE BOSS. And there mad about that

@@kohhor you're either 13 or have no comprehension skills

Joe started this...they are bianco workers

SERIES finale.

@@phillytothemax ha! True. But Joe is gonna try to bring it back with a new cast. He’s bringing in a new Aunt Viv.

@@JustXavier lmao we'll see

@@phillytothemax true. 🙃

@@JustXavier It will never be the same as before, it don't matter who Joe brings onboard.

Mal spoke nothing but feels

I was thinking this same thing.

@@devine_noise word. Nobody, with the exception of MAYBE Parks, came out of this looking good.

@@nicholasjohnson8617 parks lookin like a jellyfish to me after this

Parks said people need to get paid and was talking to both sides. What more could he do.

Joe becoming the corporate villain he "fought" against for years is really not as deep as it seems. No different than teenagers rebelling against their oppressive parents only to become the same as their parents as they get older and have kids of their own too. Or an employee that thinks he's going to be the cool boss once he becomes one and then gets smacked with the reality that being a business owner or boss has real responsibilities and shit that employees don't know about. Previously Joe was an employee. Now he's realizing that being a boss is different and not as evil as he thought. It happens when you level up.

Facts

If Joe wanted Rory out, Mal should've followed suit. Rory may come in there and shoot up the whole studio

Rory always seems tight. I wish he was off the podcast tbh

@@theconsciousobserver6829 lmao tf kind of reasoning is that. For one thing it's parks house and Joes the one battling depression and addiction. He's just as likely to shoot up the place as Rory if that's where you're going.

Mal seemed to be the only logical one here tho

Joe puts his own ego on a pedestal and he ready to drop anybody that sees him as an equal. He wants all the money and don't respect others contribution.

Swear I thought the same thing!

What do they say?

I thought I was the only one who felt that way👌🏿💯 in addition Joe has a very evil spirit about himself and it sits on the surface of his presentation.

Yo I never liked them pictures, always gave me a bad vibe

I have felt that the energy from the paintings was off for a while! It’s chaos

Where did he say that? Where is the time stamp?

@@muhammedalli19 36:00

Bruh 😂😂 Joe is something else

@King H I’m sure they are all psychos. But budden for sure

Joe told Rory not to come to the Pod and Joe was rude to Mal. He should have apologised straight away and sorted it out. It's simple. He shouldn't have texted Rory don't come. All three should have sat down and admitted the pod sounds horrible something needs to change like they did in the end. That's what Mal wanted. Why couldn't they do that? Even if it ended up with Rory taking time off at least they would have had the start of some kind of solution.

Joe is psychotic and was the one who initiated the "beef" then got mad when the guys didn't show 😂 Nothing to do with business and everything to do with ego, hence him bringing Mal laughing at him with Jay.

Thank you. Your the only one who get it. THE SHOW MUST GO ON. He said a lot of messed up stuff but just cause we friends don’t mean we can take 6 weeks off. Ppl gotta get paid it is BUSINESS. It’s just that simple

Yeah but I understand where Joe is coming from being that they go way back and have known each other a lot longer. Joe should realize as real as Mal thinks he is having rory back cause Joe was wrong, To some people being real is a friend having your back weather you are right or wrong and that is probably what Joe thinks.

@@wrathb0y Bc Joe classes his ego above his growth. He doesn't want to grow he wants to be validated

Joe and Mal had beef for a minute. But Joe takes all his Mal frustration out on Rory. Mal be treating the podcast like some shit he do a few days a week. Joe is sick of Mal's attitude about it. But Joe has been so anti industry for so long that he don't know how to tell Mal to quit bullshiten and take the shit seriously. And Rory catch all the strays from Joe not dealing with Mal's fuckery.

@@xizor1d another reason Joe is a bad boss. If you the boss you have the conversations and hold your emotion especially if it's essential to the success of the business. Joe too emotional and tries to disguise it as "professionalism"

@@megmur1766 I'm not going to call Joe a bad boss. I don't think he has enough experience yet to call it. I also don't agree that that the issue is slowly and emotional one. I think the issue emotions stem and frustration stem from having a philosophy that contradicts and is in conflict with the responsibility that he has. Joe wants to be a boss that doesn't act like a standard industry boss. Joe wants to have a business that doesn't have the standard industry rigors. Joe wants to have friends that he dose business with, without defining the parameters of the business. All those contradictions are causing the conflict which brings about the emotions. Eventually, really soon Joe is going to have to come up with a way to handle these contradictions. Mal is going to actively fight against any displine the shows going to need to continue to reach a new level of success, as he dose now. There is no way a human can't have emotions in that situation. It's also a part of the growing pain that Joe is going to have to go through to continue in his life's work.

Or maybe tell hov why it did matter to HIM. Thats not mal and rory issue 💯

The so what part didnt even make sense . Joe is literally nothing to hov (when he took those beats)... but he n mal r close friends... what an awk comparison thT he brought up, kinda telling where his mind set is

Joe just used that as an excuse to negate from how hes behaved in this blow up. Textbook narcissist move. 1. Jay z aint a friend or owes you anything 2.if you truly felt a way at them laughing... explain why that moment was so important to you after that exchange happened. You dont sit on something that happened that you didnt like to then use it as a catalyst for your actions years later. Thats corny. 3. There's no scenario in the world where the respect level with a stranger in the street and a friend should be the same. As friends you owe it to each other to maintain the respect level between each other IF you deem them a friend and they have earned that from the years of the Friendship. The biggest takeaway from all this Joe doesn't view Rory and Mal as equals or partners.. so its never gonna be quite the same again. Rory and Mal need to part ways from the business side and at least try and mend there personal friendship.

Joe is soft af taking his Jayz business ptsd on his friends who helped build his brand back. Dude was a flopped rapper bum before his podcast got some real traction and landed his complex gig.

I agree with all of y’all! The line about not owing your friends respect bothers me as well, how you not gonna feel a sense of obligation to respect your friends. Joe just a hurt dude. Wish him the best tho

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