he's the goat

its incredible cringe lol

it’s become a classic

Love a bit of brenda

lol this is my favorite comment

Facs

And perhaps the Friends theme song for good measure.

Ha! Looking forward to this!! 🙂

"Remember: it's not about winning or losing, it's about complaining on the internet"

chaos? it wasnt chaos it was great strategy , but beaten by superior micro and everything else

@@AXharoth it was chaos lol. I don't think anyone would win at that level if the initial attack fails, especially the same thing three times in a row m you'd be too far behind and can't defend the base

@@ianholland4285 i see what you mean it prob was quite stressful

You forgot they have cloak and can fire nuclear missiles on top of all that xD

Queens and Creep tumors are easily more OP than Ghosts and its not even close.

@@shadowpriest2574true, I’ve seen late game Zerg where terrans have no answer to queens and creep tumours and just slowly bleed out while searching for an answer

@@BigLeafyTree I see. You understand that you are proving my point, right? Not only are Queens and Creep Tumors OP, but they also are also good at hiding how OP they are, unlike the Ghost where its advantages are obvious. No, the problem with the Creep Tumor(because that is the unit I actually have a problem with, you know the FREE ENDLESLY REPRUDICTIVE UNIT) is the fact that it guarantees map control, information, map vision and so on and its free and comes from a unit that is more guaranteed to be made than the Zergling. For all the talk about how present the Ghost is at endgame, I see no complaint that the Queen is THIS present during zerg early game. When it comes to presence in games, The Queen is pretty much the 4th most common unit after the workers, because Marines are not that common in Mech Terran, while the only 2 instances where they are not played by zerg are 12 Pool and Worker Rushes.

​@@BigLeafyTreeAnd then they build a ghost academy

I agree, they should nerf it maybe decrease its range by 1 or add its supply cost or increase its price

Clem is highest ranked terran player rn btw

They're Clem's, that's why

It’s not a bit it’s too strong

Ghosts could be split into 2 units with the amount they bring to the table. I don't think Terran needs a significant nerf, I just think Ghosts are too good for EVERY situation. Make them Light units imo.

Snipes really shouldn't do so much damage. Watching ultralisks getting obliterated by a few snipes from long range is just dumb lol.

And zerg is still way more OP.

1 burrowed infestor hits a fungal and it's GG

​​@@fierzali6297not even close, fungal holds them down but they are also tanky af. Either run your ultras through the liberator cloud while getting sniped, or have enough banelings that it's still a terrible trade. I agree terrans need the utility, but it should be spread through multiple casters.

Game was flipped when bly failed to understand he had won, and since he never goes 5mn+ in games he doesnt understand he has to have larvas to clean the game. He got too afraid of siege tanks

Exactly! I'm getting kinda sick with how the Ghost just single-handedly counters all the Zerg late game.

@@oddeda really says a lot though about how good serral is when ghost counters all of zerg and serral gets zerg nerfed every other patch.

He could have tried EMPing the ghosts. But I guess it is already too hectic to randomly remember having that option.

@@erikvarga4367 Zerg doesn't have any kind of EMP. What are you talking about?

@@MrPinksnoopy Serral is not the sole reason for any Zerg nerf. Plenty of Zergs are still winning at the highest levels, and Rogue is back so we'll see how that goes too. Ghosts are the ones who have been getting nerfed for like at least the last 3 patches now.

Templars do have an auto attack

>ghosts on the other hand, they can be comfortably A-moved alongside marines or marauders where they'll take up positions behind the marines The thing here is - they just replace marines. In a 20 ghost army you dont see very many marines or marauders

@@ProtossOP I feel like every caster deserves some type of auto attack, however weak. Half the reason Terrans don't build Ravens is because they don't A-move well with the rest of the army and they have no observer mode. Other casters that don't attack get killed so easily due to mismicro. Protoss whined until HT got the attack, more for the purpose of being an auto anchor than to actually deal damage. I don't see why other races can't get the same treatment.

@@MadDash84 No, the only reason Terran don't build Ravens [with Bio] is because after the early game the Starport must have a reactor. This restriction is less of an issue with Mech.

@@hivetech4903 You're telling me in the mid to late game, where resources are pouring in faster than you can spend, and when it's possible to replace army after army of bio without so much as missing a beat, that Terran players can't afford to build 1 extra starport with a tech lab? Ok.

Without the Ghost Terran just instantly loses to Zerg. The fact that they NEED the Ghost is a testament to how broken Zerg is.

Well you can't make it three supply

@@chloesmith4065 4 spells, air and ground base attack 10+1 vs light units, 100 health, 150/125, 2 supply -- like a roach.

@@chloesmith4065 They should be 4 supply.

Ghosts should really at least cost 3 supply. If the reasoning for the Disruptor nerf was to prevent deathballing with them, that applies double to Ghosts, and yet they only got a tiny EMP range nerf.

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Also "supbly"

@@Dschast Ya got me there.

nah

I also love seeing the Zerg player pull out all the stops and still get rolled by ghosts.

@@AnonJuggerbot Bly SUCKED by comparison. He has to resort to gimmicks because he has no confidence against top players and it shows, that's why he is global rank 54... Clem is Rank 2.

@@AnonJuggerbot Bly is also crap compared to Clem, especially in the late game.

@@AnonJuggerbot Put any real top zerg players in Bly position and Clem wouldn't have won that.

nice catch!

Winter couldve rewinded

Weirdly though, the battle report did show clem having killed a tank, so he must have also killed a tank somewhere else via splash or something.

aaahah

This is the whole point of bio terran units, cost efficient. Ravagers + Infestors + broods = not good vs ghosts. Bly kept his tech or prod too low for how far clem was behind. He lost a shit tons of ressources producing this for nothing at the wrong moment, those units do not kill bio they kill MECH. Then all that time gave the ressources for Clem to reach +3+3, making the terran units better at late game. He threw the game not reaching for the kill in time because he was scared of a few tanks up a slope, thats not even Clem winning this is Bly failing to see his wincon

@@MagicienYT Name the unit Zerg is supposed to build vs ghosts. Spoiler there ISN'T one. Ghosts alone counter every unit zerg can ever make. All air units are worthless vs them, EMP hits before infestors can ever fungal, ghosts basic attack get bonus vs all light units countering zerglings hydras, and banes. Ghosts aren't light themselves so banelings are double worthless. Ultras get sniped, roaches do no dps, literally not even worth sniping. This is in addition to the fact that Snipe gets free refunds if it fails or gets cancelled, the only unit in the game btw that gets energy refunds. Snipe and EMP are available from the start. Only spellcaster that does real damage with a basic attack. And all this is before you include that you can get cloak and become the only caster in the game that requires detection to kill, which btw they're also going to snipe overseers or one tap observers if it becomes necessary. Zerg is the only race without energy destruction, the only glimmer is if you get lucky enough to either burrow fungal at the perfect moment, which is entirely luck based, or have the time to research neural, pray they don't scan, happen to find the ghost ball, and hope you can mind control and emp to kill energy at the guaranteed death of the infestor. which will only work maybe 1-2 times before the terran scans everywhere and builds turrets everywhere, at which point infestor abushes become impossible.

@@Fissiccisst1 How do terrans kill ultras ? Gameplay, they narrow down the paths making them harder to use. Its not about a magic unit that kills ultras, if the ghosts were alone, no terrains, you can only snipe so many until you get cleaned up. If I would have played in the style of Bly, I would have made sure to have larvas, even if I had to have macro hatches because the time he cleaned the tanks he came back with a few reproduced ultras wich is stupid. Mass cracklings with the few vipers instead of pumping corruptors & broods wich takes a dozens of minutes to cross the map... Man, its just bly being too scared of tanks there. Even tho what I said is easier said than done because underpressure making this calls is rather hard if you did not prepare for it

@@MagicienYT I get that army composition matters as solutions to what the enemy is building. But it feels like there's no gameplay solution to ghosts. Its largely just hoping the enemy terran makes a mistake and loses the ghosts in a scenario like you mention where you catch them out. Relying on enemy mistakes to fill a game design gap is awful. It feels awful. it feels like you have no agency as a zerg against terran. Because the terran completely controls the momentum in most scenarios. If you're aggresive, they turtle and get like 4x efficiency in kills, if you're passive, you're medivac dropped into hell cause zergs lack of decent anti-air. I forget where I heard it, but I feel like it summed up TvZ very well: Terran is one good decision away from winning the games, and zerg is one bad decision away from losing the game.

@@Fissiccisst1 it feels like so but if you work hard enough it'll happen, stay strong bro 👊

It's why Zerg has to end the game before they get a ball of ghosts

@@Azsunes good luck going up that ramp into siege tanks

ahahah

It's nice one unit in the right hands can counter a race? 🤔

ghosts counters both zerg and protoss entire arsenal, idk why blizzard think thats OK Only situation they are useless is in TvT

@@PineapplePizzaBiS just one race? only matchup ghosts don't counter is terran

I like how terran's general answer to ghosts is: just get lucky with fungals el oh el. As if they aren't spamming turrets and scans

@@volsirk I didn't say just one >.

Clem won with just tactics - - - - - - special tactics

>Every game is so different. No offence, but i think it's hilarious that u said that under the video of him going proxy hatch 3 times in a row and getting burrow move roaches at least 2 out of those 3 times :>

@@benismann Wrote my comment after the first two minutes into the match. :v

@@tertozer3543 that happens, rookie mistake :>

Quite the contrary. It's refreshing when you know for how long Zerg has been broken.

Don't forget: Snipe does spell damage, meaning it ignores all armor and damage mitigation.

@@AnonJuggerbot Don't forget: all the new maps are Terran favored

it's comical how anyone can defend the ghost at this point. They are so completely overpowered, and just hard counters anything Zerg can do. Balance counsel needs to look into Snipe costing more, or putting it on a long cool down. 3 Supply is appropriate. Walk back the Infester nerfs. Terran is just good at everything, too efficient at everything, and too overpowered at most things. It's not healthy for the game. Terran have had their run at being OP. Time to scale back.

@@jayR1337 So Ghosts are OP because a professional Zerg player from the lower ranks failed to close out a game after a cheese that crumbled (entirely due to his own inability to plan beyond his cheese) against one of the best players; And likely the best Terran in the world? I recommend you learn how to pick the hills you want to fight on better.

dont forget EMP dealing aoe 100 or so damage to shields (in addition to wiping 100 energy ofc) and there's only one race that has shields :>

Zergling bane counters it. Zerg actually need fully upgraded zerglings which bly forgot to get.

@@drewweeks6089 Did you miss the explaination winter gave where it takes 6-7 banelings to kill a ghost? That's 300 minerals and 150 gas vs 150/125, still a win for the ghost in that case

@@yugonostalgia8961 Did you miss the part that Banelings hit in an AoE and even when taken out do damage around themselves? The moment you hit more than two Ghosts it's worth it. The moment we're talking about 10, you quickly realize why Ling-Bane is actually a counter.

yup, I immediately unsubsribed.

yeah, these games have gotten boring for a long time now. you just know that terran just needs to bumble around for ~20 minutes, which isnt hard considering the amount of bullshit they have at their disposal, and come late game, they just win by default.

I remember that being a problem in WoL. Then came the Swarm Host to deal with it and Terrans whined incessantly about locusts being "free units" and now they're so bad you rarely see them.

What are you talking about??? Terran does not and cannot turtle unless the opponent screws up horribly, which he did, because he is bad. Look at any pro level game & Terran LOSES if they're not active on the map and do timing attacks. The reason it happened here is purely because Bly's cheese failed and put him far behind. Bly is very, very bad compared to other pro Zergs. Look at his drone count. Look at the upgrade lead he got and then didn't do anything with because he knows he's behind & has to do some silly burrow gimmick to avoid the late game. He has to avoid the late game because he is Rank 54. Clem is Rank 2. Other players who are not Bly can beat can beat Clem in the late game. This myth of Terran turtling probably comes from Mech but that is very rare at pro level, and even then Terran still has to harass. It may come from just anti-Terran bias.

@@hivetech4903 build seige tanks liberators and vikings and u cant lose as terran if u want to turtle

@@hivetech4903 The "myth" of Terran turtling comes from silver and gold league heroes from the last 10+ years from the ladder. Basically, from skill levels where people can't wrape their heads around the concept that it's not normal for their average game to last 50+ minute.

Against that many ghosts, you may as well just kill the lurkers yourself as soon as they finish morphing, save some time.

@@AnonJuggerbot ur right i was referring to the first game and exaggerated a bit. When he had him cornered and things started to shift he had no ghosts at first in that first game

bro, was thinking the same thing. There's a lot of great things serral does but this game helped me realize just how good serral is. He's so confident he doesn't rush to kill you. Then when he's decided to attack it's a calculated, multi-layered, precise assault that will kill you or leave you at a severe disadvantage. Man I miss his games.

Serving in the Finnish army. His conscription year came up.