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Was a trained butcher, we used Victorinox and I used to take the old knives, give them a little attention at home and use them for hunting. Nothing wrong with them you just don't have the time to mess around on the stones with them past a point at work. Never considered they were slick steel, just knew they were good.

when you say slick steel I presume you mean a steel with no vertical ridges running up the length of the honing Steel.?

@@daveyboy6985 they have to be slick as glass. some of them will still have a light grit on them without the vertical lines. almost like being coated with a light diamond dust. even those are not a slick steel. and they are advertised all kinds of ways so you either have to call the company or trial and error

My families German in Canada....was a butcher for 14 years F DICK brand commercial knives are very underrated , I have my great grandfather's 2 handed F DICK cleaver.....things a beast and very functional

Thanks for the nice content! Have some F. Dick knives and they are great tools! Glad you went with a German brand! Nice to hear about collectors of fine cutlery in Europe! Enjoy, Blsgs, gg

F dick and victornox are the best options for everyday use . I'm a retail butcher and process poultry and small livestock and game for the public and use victornox f dick 95 percent of the time when I process for the public. At work I use victornox 100 percent I like both f dick and victornox about the same our company buys victornox so I keep.my personal f.dicks at home.

Good information, now I’m curious to try Dick Knives for myself. Waidmannsheil

@@TheLordArionif Dick is hard to come by the commercial variant of Victorinox is very similar in pricing and quality

Been looking at that MKC for the magnacut and shape but the price is a little steep and the availability is miserable on top of it. What comparable magnacut blades would you recommend?

Yes the marketing is extreme and While i agree the price is steep, I wouldn't knock on Josh's (MKC founder) knowledge. Youngest master smith to earn the title from the ABS. I remember when Josh was a teenager sharing a table with Devin Thomas at a knife show (known for his damascus). That was before Devin's son Larrin Thomas, the PHD metallurgist who invented magnacut, was even born. Josh knows his knives, and knows his steels. I do like that MKC parkerize their 52100 blades because it wears nicely and doesn't look like worn paint like DLC. Again, i agree the price is steep, but i guess someone has to pay for all the marketing and USA made. Also, NO knife is rust proof. With the higher HT that people are using on magnacut, it will pepper up, Take it salt water fishing and you will see. Not everything is about edge retention, there is something to be said for blade profile, toughness, ease of sharping, and HT. Also, i love that they use high carbon steel. I'm not a fan of stainless for my hunting knives. Last thing, sharpening choils tend to get hung up when skinning, i like them on my EDC blades, but not my hunting blades.

@@mysterioanonymous3206 whatever you look for in magnacut, make sure the heat treat is done properly. Go through someone reputable, I've seen Buck offers magnacut now but i don't know the price.

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Guys that cut meat for a living all day don't spend hundreds for the knives that make them their living, and they don't use two and a half inch bladed "experts " knives The ones I've known don't sharpen with machines either. They use whetstones similar to what you can buy for $2.99

What steel? And what's the HRC after temper? Huge knife nerd and hobbyist sharpener and I love hearing details about what others create and how they use it.

@@YoureSoVane nitro-v for stainless and lots of sawmill blade steel from the old mills up here in northern bc, hardens like 10-series but super durable. I temper to about 58-60 for hunting knives

@@MikeJones-vb1me Nitro V actually makes a lot of sense in this application. Aren't the saw mill blades O1? Or do they use another alloy I'm not aware of?

@@YoureSoVane O1 in my experience is a little more finicky for heat treatment. The blades I’ve been using act a lot more like a 1095 or 1084, or even L6. Now that being said, the gap between 1095 and O1, realistically, isn’t all that drastic. Your average end-user probably wouldn’t notice a huge difference if they were all heat treated well. In my opinion anyway.

Benchmade is garbage, insanely overpriced garbage. I've worked with most of the big knife makers here in the PNW area and Benchmade is an awful company that makes cheap knives for premium prices. if you want US made go Spyderco.

I have a Benchmade Osborne as well and agree with you 100% Because I have it every second that I am awake, it happened to be the only knife I had on me when I shot a deer this year I used it to gut and was absolutely impressed

Well you used to could Since Ontario padlocked the doors Old Hickory anything has gotten kind of scarce. You'd think as many millions of em that they made, there'd be a decade's worth of supply. I tried to buy a carbon wood scaled Dexter a while back, and was told that they were discontinued I'm glad I've got what I've got

Yes, it is one of my favorites too. Easy to clean also.😊

My favorite Mora for hunting is the "Pro". Its got a short, wide blade, which makes for more belly and a classic drop point shape. IMO the use of a Mora for hunting depends on the likelihood of having to field sharpen it. If I'm just out for a day of deer hunting a Mora makes a good choice, if its a backcountry hunt with multiple elk tags involved a skandi-grind would be less ideal.

@@bushleague3472 I simply made micro-bevel on mine. Few light strokes on Victorinox Dual-Knife sharpener let you stay "on top of your knife" in the field.

​@@VitaliyMonastyrev Yeah, I've done that as well in the field, then returned it to the original edge later. I dont like using the micro bevel for any length of time, as the more you sharpen it, the bigger of a sharpening job you will eventually need to do. Getting my Grohmann through a season is just more convenient.

I think I have that skinning knife... a 5" blade with an upswept point. It was made in the late 50's and used to belong to my grandfather, probably the hardest carbon steel blade that I've come across. For 15 years now I've used a Grohmann No1 though, it does both jobs so well that I generally dont bother getting any other knives dirty.

👍 I’ll have to checkout the vanguard with the rubber grip

You just sold a knife for buck ! Just ordered one after reading your comment 😂

@tonym3157. The Buck Vanguard is an excellent knife. I've gutted plenty of deer with the drop point version and the gut hook model. Ive also used both handle versions. The rubber handle provides excellent grip even when covered in blood. I would like to see Buck get away from the 420 HC they're so heavily invested in. Probably won't see that anytime soon as most people don't know the difference between steels.

The vanguard has a cult following. The Cabela's Alaskan guide version is the way to go IMHO

You can’t make a comment like that and not tell the story! Limited sheath options for the beef skinner. Homemade kydex is an option!

There's several smaller companies and one-man shops that do cheap custom. If they can get ahold of one they'll press it pretty cheap.

@@CliffGray Point taken. I was 18 and had graduated highschool three weeks before. I bought a one way ticket from California to Kodiak with a backpack of food and not enough money to get home. This was in 04, so there was no deadliest catch, they started filming that winter. I had based this all off loose rumors I heard about salmon fishing and some books I read in a Barnes and Nobel. I sat on the docks pestering everyone who passed by trying to land a job (and somewhere to sleep). An old timer sized me up on my approach to him, his name was Tony Jones, owner of the crabber Lucky Lady. He was fishing some of his halibut IFQs on a small halibut longline boat. He landed me my first commercial job and taught me with his decades of experience. We were setting a longline one day, Tony and I were facing eachother taking turns clipping on pre-baited leaders onto the longline descending to the bottom of the sea. He made a mistake and didn’t time a clip onto the longline with the roll of the swells, as he clipped it the large hook set through his clothing and grundens jacket at his chest area and was pulling him overboard. There was likely a second or less to react to this. I whipped out my belt sheathed Victorinox 3.25 Inch Swiss Classic Paring Knife with Serrated Edge and cut the leader as he was being pulled over the stern. I grabbed his hood with my other hand and threw him back onto the deck. If he had gone over I would estimate him being down a hundred feet before I got the captains attention and stopped paying out line. He looked at me with bewilderment. I’ll never forget the look. He was an old salt of the industry, had a wife, kids, grandchildren. A yuppy 18yo kid he gave a chance had listened to the instructions he gave and saved his life and his legacy. It was all in the eyes. More wild stories came after that boat while crab fishing, but that’s one that makes me remember that trusty Victorinox which never left my belt line!

Great moment in your life. Thanks for sharing. We'll done👊

​@@mikethompson8296that's awesome mate, well done

Nothing wrong with that!

I’m thinking about it! Thanks!

I would definitely listen to that podcast on my drive to work or wherever

​@TheWVgoodguy2 as would I

Can't get my mora sharp

Hi from another Australian - farmer and hunter. "Respect" is a human concept. In my 60 years, I've not seen anything to indicate that animals respect each other. That said, respect is one way that we express our value for an animal. No-one that I know has "respect for say, a cockroach. We don't like them, they are a pest, and we just put poison out for them and be done with it. A fine domesticated animal represents a great deal of hard work, investment and the pleasure that we can have in producing something that is beautiful, healthy and functional. (I'm being very brief here, there are many ways that we can value an animal, includi g emotionally. I have three dogs in the kitchen with me now, that I love with a passion.) Wild animals are something else. They provide us with a link with nature. They are part of a wildness that is completely apart from tge man-made environment in which many of us live. They give us the ability to be participants in that ecosystem, instead of merely viewing it. That cultural and emotional part of hunting is immensely important to us, possibly for the same reason that ancient men painted the animals that they hunted of vast numbers of cave walls ( but almost never pai ted plants). Done right, hunting is a challenge... of commitment, of skill, of patience, of endurance. Everyone who hunts "properly"..... that is hunting in ways that require that hard work, give the animal a reasonable chance to escape (if it is good enough) give it a quick, clean death of you succeed, and do not take more than our fair share.... The hunter who does that..... what he does is the measure of his vale, his "respect" for that animal. Wild animal

You can buy a kydex sheet and make one yourself. There's plenty tutorials, you can do a decent one without much if any equipment you don't have already.

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They make great knives. If you are careful with your technique around bone and hair, and you bring that knife smoking sharp, you can get through a whole elk. You’re absolutely paying for some marketing with MKC but it is also a pretty good product.

👍 good info

Bwhaha! Well there’s a lot of them 😜

That was hilarious 😂

Absolutely.

You can also sharpen them compared to other havalons!

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@@CliffGray if you get it one in hand even just to test it out I’d be interested in your opinion. It uses proprietary blades that are thicker and sturdier, also it has several fillet/boning blades that go from 5 to 9 inches. I know several hunters that process everything with just that. Also since it has larger stock it can be resharpened instead of being throwaway blDe

A single Mora knife will get you through just about any ungulate. Ive quartered out a couple of mulies with them.. It took two to quarter out an elk. They run pretty cheap also. I happend to have a new and used ( resharpened before the hunt) basic 511 when quartering out an elk last month. You won't need to sharpen during quartering. I haven't had to at least. I carried four with me to camp but didn't use two of them.