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Silly Moustache

Silly Moustache

Күн бұрын

Just a little review of the things that I've stuck on my guitars over the years to get them in tune!
apart from the ancient history, I'm showing the:
Korg Pitchclp, (app. £16)
TC Electronics Unitune (app. £25)
Peterson Stroboclip HD (app £50)
The TC electronics is a fine tuner, but impossible to source at the time of makingb this video (Summer 2020)
The Paterson Stroboclip is more than twice the price but has an incredible amount of options.
for more info see :
www.petersontu...
www.tcelectron...
www.korg.com/u...
I'm very interested to hear from users of these units, particularly anyone who has customised the Sweetening tunings on the Peterson.

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@jeffhansman2829
@jeffhansman2829 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I have been using a Peterson Strobo Clip HD on my HD-28 for about a year now, and while I like it, I don't love it. I find I have to check it against my old Boss TU-80 which never seems wrong. After 50+ yrs. of playing (and tuning), I've come to the opinion that your ear is the best arbiter. Of course, your 12th-string harmonic is always an alternate guide. My 74 yr.-old ears need all the help they can get!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, I also have less than perfect 74 year old ears, replete with tinituss and rebele loss, but I agree with you. In face I am planning a video on 12th fret to 7th fret tuning. I'm afraid that I finfd the Peterson too cumberson, and now have a small collection of TC Electronic Unitiunes. Thanks for watching.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic Ай бұрын
My snark tuner was telling that the intonation on my mandolin was out (flat at the 12th fret), although to my ears it sounded fine. I treated myself to a Peterson Stroboclip tuner which arrived a few days ago, and it told me that the intonation is fine all the way up the neck on the A and E strings, and very slightly out on the D strings (but close enough). That's me converted to Peterson. It took me a couple of minutes to get used to interpreting the moving pattern (movement to left is flat, movement to right is sharp), but it's no more difficult to read than any other tuner - and it's 10x more accurate. I particularly like that it can latch on to notes high up on the mandolin finger board, and the mandolin sweetened tuning mode sounds good. It's way more expensive than any other clip-on I've used (just shy of £60) but it's worth every penny of that. I just hope that it can withstand the rigours of gigging!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Ай бұрын
Hi, I was sent one for evaluation, but I found it impractical when performing/playing out. I have never experienced a digital tuner that was inaccurate, and on guitar, I have my own version of "sweetened" tuning for my way of playing. I confess that I play my mando so little now but I used to adjust intonation by gently tapping the bridge feet with a very small hammer.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic Ай бұрын
@@SillyMoustache The Petersons do not have a reassuring green light to tell you when the string is in tune, and the display is far from intuitive. I actually watched a number of videos about Peterson tuners before buying, so when it arrived I was well prepared and only took a few minutes to get into the groove. I did take it to a gig yesterday, but my Godin A8 has great tuning stability so all I really did was confirm that my instrument was already in tune before we kicked off. Most mandolins have floating bridges, so getting the intonation right is simply a question of being patient - or hitting it with a hammer 🙂However my Godin is unusual that the bridge doesn't move and my Snark was telling me the intonation was out. Fortunately, the Peterson tuner showed me that the intonation is just fine. Now I know why it sounded ok to my ears!
@brucedickson6019
@brucedickson6019 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I've been using a StroboClip for a couple of years and find it great - although I only switch between 6-string, 12-string and 8-string baritone. I don't know about the TC but (in Canada) the StroboClip was the most expensive by quite a large margin. To make them less obvious, you can reverse the clip then mount the tuner so that it sits between the mechanisms of your tuning pegs. I've only done this with a Snark and the StroboClip but it may be worth the experiment.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce, thanks for this. Maybe I should explore the many facilities more.
@thepokerpilotapp
@thepokerpilotapp 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I learned so much more than I expected. Great job!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@garystackhouse5787
@garystackhouse5787 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the opinion. BTW, for ME, the point of a polytune is to be able to strum all the strings and immediately see which ones may be out so you can hone in on it and fix tuning quickly... very helpful in the middle of a gig.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Each to his own.
@2musiclover534
@2musiclover534 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that the Polytune 6 string function is inaccurate. For example, tune the string one by one until it is 'perfect.' Then strum all six, and it shows many strings out of tune.
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the part about sweetened tunings. I knew they were vaguely meant to make the guitar sound more in tune over the whole range, rather than just on open strings but it was interesting hearing your manual method of doing it :)
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, thanks for watching.
@EJohnDanton
@EJohnDanton 3 жыл бұрын
For the longest time I used to use my trusty big box thing (Korg TM50...$50 it is also a metronome, so now my drummer daughter has it) When I finally broke down and got a clip on tuner, I went to my local (Canada) music store, Long & McQuade and they had 440 Technologies tuners. Probably a rebadge of a Chinese product, but my AT4 has worked well for 5 years. It calibrates from 430Hz to 450Hz in 1Hz increments, only $12, and is available still at that price. I bought a Fender FT-004 clip on (no doubt another Chinese rebadge) on a boxing day blowout ($6) at the same store. The battery failed almost immediately and it has never been as accurate at the 440. But it is good to have a backup.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, haven't seen those but thanks for telling me about them. Regards,
@iancandler5446
@iancandler5446 4 ай бұрын
I used to use the TC all the time on both electrics and acoustics but i was fed up with mine going off in the middle of tuning, saw the Peterson and got one. I’ve never had more accurately tuned guitars. Even just using it as a normal tuner its worth it but with all the extra tunings etc it just quickly becomes a value for money must have.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 4 ай бұрын
That's fair enough! agree about the TC auto switch off. I can tune one guitar, but two need a another switch on. Also TC on/off switches are two small (I glue a tiny piece of leather on the buttons).
@steveb9325
@steveb9325 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy!!! My ear and tuning fork from a kid are still with me!!! I'm 63 in Feb...ha! Good to see you Buddy. Steve from Austin Texas home of collings guitars Ps: if I'm really desperate I use my out of tune piano! Ha
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, yeah, that's what we used to do, tune to piano in pubs and halls, which , as you say, were rarely in tune with themselves.
@Insignia27
@Insignia27 5 ай бұрын
im ngl as a guy from the south when i saw the stache on this man I thought he would have a grumbly low old Southern man voice. what i certainly did not expect was my favorite British accent of all time
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! My accent is half "estuary" English (River Thames basin) and RP. BTW - what does im ngl mean?
@Insignia27
@Insignia27 5 ай бұрын
I'm not going to lie :)@@SillyMoustache
@patricklundquist9869
@patricklundquist9869 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I just restarted my search for the ultimate clip-on tuner. D'Addario makes a tiny soundhole tuner that is very finicky. It also does not like the low E. To make it work I need to mute the other 5 strings. I can see the sound waves traveling up and down the guitar as the tuner flickers from sharp to flat to sharp and so on. Also not enough contrast between center white note and green marks on each side indicating sharp and flat. They should have gone with orange and blue or the like. I had to quit using it on my Eastman flattop because the top is so active the tuner developed a buzz that sounded like a slightly over driven amplifier. I believe it was the TC that scratched my headstock. I do like that tuner though so if I get another, I will add more padding prior to using it. (I worry about the padding on various tuners and whether any will react with nitrocellulose finish.) The Korg sledgehammer seems pretty decent, although it is obtrusive and so bright in a darkened room that it makes me squint. The search continues. Lovely Eastman archtop by the way.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, thanks for sharing your experiences. all my old tuners are in the big "Ex-Tuner" box and I'm sticking with my TC Unitunes now. Thanks for watching!
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. You are just a delight. You could make a video about different ways to watch paint dry and I'm certain I would take great enjoyment in watching it. All the best to you!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks so much!
@MelvinHughesatp
@MelvinHughesatp 3 жыл бұрын
I have almost the same collection of tuners that you displayed. Almost ten years ago, Jim Grainger (Custom Fretted Instruments & Repair) handed me a Peterson StroboClip first-generation tuner which was a bit larger and silver. After I got used to using it, I was hooked. Then I discovered James Taylor talking about his "sweetened" tunings to help temper his guitars, especially when he was using a capo. He had worked extensively with Peterson on the tunings and they, in turn, had included his preferences in their Acoustic Guitar Sweetened Tuning (ACU). This is how they describe it, "ACU Designed for use with acoustic guitars tuned to standard EADGBE. The strings are adjusted to allow for deflection by varying amounts according to the gauge of the string in each case. The guitar is sweetened in the same way as if tuned by the ear of an experienced musician such as James Taylor who uses these settings." I have been using this as my base for tuning ever since.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
That's great. I developed my own style of "sweetening" as shown in my videos before James made his video. I prefer the TC Unitune. Each to his own, but thanks for watching.
@baldheadedpriest
@baldheadedpriest 3 жыл бұрын
Have the Tc poly tuner , it’s a great tuner , use it for lots of alternative tunings , some not all at pitch , and for tuning to harmonicas . Use it as a back up so same battery over a year later !
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for that. sadly it seems that TCe have stopped making clip ons.
@acousticsong-guitarco964
@acousticsong-guitarco964 11 ай бұрын
@@SillyMoustacheI bought one yesterday. So they’re still on the market
@joelgevirtz6181
@joelgevirtz6181 3 жыл бұрын
I have used Snark for several years with good results. This has opened my eyes to these devices. Thanks!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
|Hi Joel, The tuner aspect of the snarks are good, which is why I have the remaining red one in my toolbox, but the readout is so dull and the swan necks to fragile for me to rely on when I'm out ... but who's going out ? |Hope you are both safe and well.
@joelgevirtz6181
@joelgevirtz6181 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache yeah, whose going out. I only use the Snark when at lesson with Mike. He has one as well and we use it to get in tune with each other. I would think it would be not as good when on stage. I have used it at jams and it has worked well. Stay well and safe!
@edwardgordon4309
@edwardgordon4309 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with the cat 🐈 👍
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
ah, the delightful if challenging Rupert. I miss him terribly!
@edwardgordon4309
@edwardgordon4309 Жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache So sorry for your loss my brother. RIP sweet blessing, Rupert 🙏
@texhaines9957
@texhaines9957 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of tough when the local store only carries Snark. Great comparison. Thanks
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm thinking they have decided we all perform with an iPhone on our knee!
@susanroycroft89
@susanroycroft89 7 ай бұрын
Hi, just ole Don here from Hamilton NZ on my Wife's tablet Susan, good subject, and you know I still rely on a tuning fork, needs no batteries ( that go flat at Just the Wrong time) I love your videos on though, thanks again 😊😊😊
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, Andy
@sarahinclough
@sarahinclough 2 жыл бұрын
I have just purchased a rechargeable guitar tuner, a Lekato (I’ve never heard of them either). I wonder if the more well known makers could produce tuners which would save us all buying batteries.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know I'm afraid. all of my tuners use CR2032 batts which last a long time.
@richardtrahan6306
@richardtrahan6306 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the witty and non-affected way you talk. Fun to listen to. I am trying to decide if the stroboclip is for me. I play a high end nylon Taylor 814n and a steel string Larrivée C-19. I like the quickness of having the sweetened tuning built in. Then, I do play the Larrivée often in alternate tunings so I don't know if that works then.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, thanks for your input.
@swampwhiteoak1
@swampwhiteoak1 3 жыл бұрын
Sweetened tuning is interesting. I once watched a video of James Taylor in his home studio when he showed his variant of standard tuning which seemed like sweetened tuning.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did that a while after I had determined my method. His is a little more exptreme than mine -v but maybe his frets are higher, or something.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic Ай бұрын
FWIW Snark seem to have strengthened the "swan neck" arrangement so it's a lot stronger.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Ай бұрын
About time !
@ScottoftheSahara
@ScottoftheSahara 3 жыл бұрын
I started out with a tuning fork and a 12 string guitar.... I have some Snarks and D'Addario tuners, they work fine. I also have a couple of Kala rechargable clip on tuners. I am impressed at how long the charge lasts. It is good to have a tuner for each instrument and a couple to give away.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I now have a few TC unitunes and feel better with them.
@arthurgilbert4440
@arthurgilbert4440 3 жыл бұрын
I love the paintbrush magnifying glass. Being a painter myself, where did you find that? Good video also.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
We found it in a little knick knack shop. It is/was new. And very usefull.
@angiesiddall9563
@angiesiddall9563 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a Tellituner like your white one. Now I have a built in one on my Takemine, so I don't need my Tellituner anymore. I found it was quite accurate for tuning. I also liked the it had the swivel to set it at a visible angle for viewing it. It cost $50.00 Canadian and I dropped it a few times and it never broke. Easy to clip on to my guitar and shut itself off after 4 minutes in case a person forgets it's on.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Angie, is that a TC unitune ? (I donlt know Tellitune). If so, Is it for sale?
@angiesiddall9563
@angiesiddall9563 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache it's the white colored one that swivels that you first showed. I no longer have mine because my guitar has a built in tuner, so I gave it away and I don't remember the brand name. It's the same as the one you showed, after the tuning fork.
@sc5759
@sc5759 3 жыл бұрын
I was at my local Guitar Center a few weeks ago and they had three TC Polytunes in stock. I have all the tuners you featured except for the Korg and the Snark. I find I can use my Polytune the same as a Unitune by simply ignoring most of the features save for single string mode. Great tuner, fast, accurate and unobtrusive. I may be able to pick one up for you if they still have them in stock. They were $59 if I recall correctly.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shawn, that would be nice -thanks!
@jim_andrianakos
@jim_andrianakos 2 ай бұрын
Is there a good one that calibrates to 432Hz? No 432Hz is worthless for me.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't know.
@gloryrow100
@gloryrow100 4 ай бұрын
That cat could use some "Sweetened mode"!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Sadly he's no longer with us, and the new one is even noisier!
@bmfilmnut
@bmfilmnut 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. It's informative and entertaining. By the way, that's a beautiful Eastman guitar. I was admiring it before I noticed it's an Eastman. I have an Eastman E20D and I love it.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for watching. I'f you look elsewhere on my Y/T channel you will see that I also have two other Eastmans - an E20-P and a rare (or unique) E40-00.
@akdm82
@akdm82 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that cat was persistent. LOL
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy Barry, you don't know the half of it! When he wants attention, you better jump to it! But we love the little beast anyway.
@donhartigan9446
@donhartigan9446 7 ай бұрын
entertaining video. I enjoyed the kitty cat (not as annoying as my dog when trying to make a vid though :) i as well have a ton of diff tuners from my A440 fork to the old mouth harp ones ive collected over the decades :) etc etc etc. i have found the Peterson to be the most accurate (most important) and versatile. I have always relied on my ear as the final judge when using any tuner, but as age creeps i find the peterson the one i am most confident in.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 7 ай бұрын
Hi, I have a Peterson too, but still prefer the TC Electronics Unitune. and yes, I still havr my A440 tuning fork!
@MMAThailand
@MMAThailand 3 жыл бұрын
Is the D'addario mini one okay? I love it as it is compact and minimal.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
It's ...OK.
@stuartakers7642
@stuartakers7642 10 ай бұрын
I still have my intelli tuner from many years ago. I thought it was just my guitar that meant it could pick up the notes easily. I also use the octave trick to get it to recognise E, A & D :)
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 10 ай бұрын
Yup, the technology has improved, but my intellis still work. I tried to sell mine for £10 each bot no-one was interested. I have a box of them and the D'addario mini clips somewhere in my workshop.
@MrTuberguber
@MrTuberguber 3 жыл бұрын
Love my cat to pieces, but boy, she can be a pest.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, cats are strange people, but as long as we realise that they call the tunes and we are obedient, things can be OK.
@Ditch1221
@Ditch1221 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine has tuner that clips on to the sound hole and hangs on the inside.. I believe D'Addario makes them. I keep forgetting to pick one up to check it out myself. I'm not a huge fan of clipping anything onto the headstock. That's just my quirky thing. Great video !! First I heard of the sweeten tuning, interesting. Thanks Andy.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ditch, yeah I have one - I found it very difficult to use as mine goes blank when in tune. (huh?)
@patricklundquist9869
@patricklundquist9869 2 жыл бұрын
Still searching for the ultimate clip-on and while continuing to research ran across an article which contains a warning that both the TC and the Snark can react with nitro finishes if left on the guitar.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have had no such issues with either, but Snark is too fragile to be kept on headstock, and TC is too "obvious" so unlike the small D'addario clip ons I don't keep them on any more.
@deormanrobey892
@deormanrobey892 3 жыл бұрын
When at home, I used to just switch on the old Wurlitzer and agree with the middle keys. It seemed to work pretty well.😁 Now I've got a couple of clip-ons that don't completely agree, but after the usual ear-bone correction the end results are much the same. I also have an old Korg about the size of a deck of cards that doesn't attach, which I use for intonating. It's pretty accurate, but it can be tough to find the spot between sharp and flat, 🙄 I still have a fork, but I don't do anything with it except check new to me tuners. 🤣
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a friend who still uses one of those "deck of cards" sized Korgs. It's all he's used since we first met. Thanks for watching
@TomasMichaud
@TomasMichaud 3 жыл бұрын
hah... That was a nice trip down memory lane. Especially the saving which I think went out of business. I have all the tuners (and a few more) now including the Peterson which I just bought. It's a nice affirmation that would come to the same conclusions. I'm new to the sweetening thing and I'll be able to say more after I've used the Peterson for a while. AND who the heck can read those instructions without magnification? I went online and found a video.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, this is my method of sweetening my tunings. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZeEich6uMfdp5s.html
@gergemall
@gergemall Жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson, point well taken
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@jvogelis
@jvogelis Жыл бұрын
This video is amazing…thank you.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@HarryStoneDotCom
@HarryStoneDotCom 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 6 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@jimbertrand2499
@jimbertrand2499 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting topic and I’ve seen you discuss this before. Tried several clip on tuners with variable results. Some are plain garbage... I do use a Snark Super Tight for 6-string, 12-string and 8-string Baritone tuning and I have used a large performance electronic inline Boss stage tuner (it seems awkward and doesn’t like Baritone tuning at all) but my favourite is actually a free app called GuitarTuna on my iPad and Samsung smartphone. The app is handy and seems quite responsive and accurate for 6-strings and 12-string guitars. Just my experience...
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still in the 20th C - don't use technology much.
@montae7465
@montae7465 3 жыл бұрын
He is cute and the way of explanation is awesome 🤩. Hope tc electronics restocks soon in Amazon India.. thou I bought my first tuner today which is tc electronics but I got used one n ended up returning it.. hope I'll get one soon 🤞
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been called cute before, but thanks. TC Elect tuners are now widely available again.
@rodneykitchen3869
@rodneykitchen3869 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video and informative, which Eastman model guitar is that? she's a beauty !
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, it is a 2008 Eastman AR805. See : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMqRhb2hvN6YlaM.html
@JimChagares
@JimChagares 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. I just purchased the StroboClip HD for the customization of sweeteners. I'm a bit baffled at the fact that the tuner does not give a cent readout. If you tune your guitar by ear to get around the imperfection of the intonation and want to make a custom sweetener via the Peterson website how are you suppose to dial in the custom cents if the tuner doesn't give you a cent readout?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James. I have to say that the Paterson Stroboclip was not my preference. It is very clever and has a wealth of different options, but far too many and far to fiddly for me. So, in short, I cannot answer your question. My current choice is the TC Electronics UNI-tune which is easy to see in all lighting conditions, and whilst it has a strobo option, I avoid it. I have been sweetening my tuning my way for years - As I mostly play out of a 1st position G or C shape, I have found that tuning the notes of a G+5 (b string) shape ensures that the strings will be in tune. Here's an old video of me demonstrating my sweetening method : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZeEich6uMfdp5s.html I hope this helps.
@JimChagares
@JimChagares 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache Thank you for your reply and the tuning video. That is exactly how I have been tuning my D-35 to compensate for intonation issues, especially when applying a capo, which I use a lot for Bluegrass and Country Folk. I am using the same tuner by D'Addario. I have the one that you remove a screw on one of your tuners and it screws right to the headstock. They just upgraded their tuners recently and are more accurate and more responsive. Checking the D'Addario with the Peterson, the D'Addario is spot on. I just thought the idea of programming a sweetener into the Peterson to do the compensating might be a better solution. I guess I was doing it the right way all along for less money. I'll be returning the Peterson.
@misscorina
@misscorina 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I just purchased a strobostomp hd myself and apparently "stupidly" assumed that because it had the option to upload your own personalised sweeteners that it would have a cent readout to enable one to design your personalised sweetener. "Crazy concept", I now know. I couldn't believe that it didn't and so I reached out to peterson and they came up with all sorts of inane reasons & excuses as to why it doesn't, none of which held up to any sort of analysis. Bottom line is it seems to me that someone in the product development stage stuffed up big time. Also looking at the lcd screen closely seems to indicate to me that no firmware upgrade will be able to fix this problem. The StroboPlus, I later found out which is marginally more expensive does have a cent readout as does their Apple istrobosoft app for the ipad, although this app readout does not seem to be as stable as the strobostomp HD even with my instrument plugged into my ipad. I really like the option of uploading my own sweetened tunings and so my workaround has been to use my ipad istrobosoft to tell me my cent readings, then design my tunings on their website, then upload them to my strobostomp HD. It works. But it's not ideal and I hope Peterson listen and acknowledge their customers concerns and their own products flaws, which they don't really seem to be doing, and rather than pretend everything's fine, redesign their product with a cent readout. The suggestion by one representative to me that I should spend the same amount of money again and buy a stroboplus with the cent readout is absolutely insane. A more honest response IMO would be, "Yeah, well our product dev team stuffed up a bit with this. How about you send us your Strobostomp and we'll replace it with a Stroboplus". Anyway apart from this now obvious flaw, (and also the fact that you have to purchase a screen protector separately when it should be shipped with the product) I love all the other aspects of my strobostomp, its steadiness, its accuracy, the readout display, upload your own sweeteners etc etc.
@tenzinla1
@tenzinla1 3 жыл бұрын
I find the TC is _slightly_ easier when you're in a noisy environment, but I think I like the Peterson strobe better than the TC strobe. I tend to tune to it, then adjust to the chords I'm playing. I think I still have my pitchfork. I remember tuning a 12-String with _very_ old strings. What's the saying? You spend 1/2 of the time tuning and half the time playing out of tune? Deep down, I'm not sure if the TC or Peterson is that much better for the price. They are both excellent, but it's hard to beat one that's so much less expensive.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Jeffrey, I'll continue to work with the Peterson esp. as I have discovered that the TCs have been discontinued. In fact there seems to be a considerable shortage of quality clip-ons available now.
@tenzinla1
@tenzinla1 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache Another thing is I got in the habit of clipping them on 'backwards'. (I honestly can't say why I did this to start with.) They seem to be slightly less obtrusive, but since I am usually playing just in the house here, I'm pretty sure I did that because it gave me an easier view or access to the buttons. I'd be interested in what a 'tech' uses when they are setting up an instrument with a movable bridge/saddle.
@osuperjames
@osuperjames 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. You got a new subscriber. Man, recently I brought one PWCT12 Daddario by Planet waves, the new one, that have more colors to display. But I feel the tuner not too accurate to my taste. I don't know if the battery is about do die or if it is normal to this model. As you, I think the clamp is a bit cheap, I feel that the tuner would be better if came with a usual clamp, like the PWCT13 universal. The thing is, I just brought a PWCT17 Eclipse Daddario by Planet Waves. I'm waiting the pack arrive to my house. I hope be right and that this usual clamp make the tuner be better. Have you already tested it? See ya!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
No I haven't. I have some originals which I've relied on fr some years, but don't plan any more tuner tests currently. Thank you for subscribing, Please check out my other videos. comments and questions welcomed.
@jasper_north
@jasper_north 3 ай бұрын
Did you sit on the cat?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 ай бұрын
No, the cat sits on me.
@moritzprivat7325
@moritzprivat7325 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thank you! 😁
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jimmymahone5420
@jimmymahone5420 2 жыл бұрын
I may get one of those Peterson's, but right now I'm more interested in the magnifier you're using to read the instructions. We live in an age of microscopic fonts for "instructions," labels, and "user manuals," and this geezer needs a supplement for his bifocals. Endless tedium trying to read things designed by youngsters with 20-20 or better vision. My consolation is that, long after I've left Planet Earth, they'll get to the age when eyes don't work as well as when young, and they'll piteously wail, "Who designed this, and why did they use such a tiny font!"
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY AGREE (I'M WRITING THIS AS LARGE AS I CAN !!) We just picked up that paintbrush magnifier in a little curiosity shop, that has since closed down. Google it, you never know (Thanks for watching!)
@Phyoomz
@Phyoomz 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful guitar!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - what about the tuners?
@carmineanastasio
@carmineanastasio 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings...Sweetwater finally has TC Unitunes in stock for $28.99. They are my favorite. Be well.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the heads-up - thanks to someone on the AGF - I sourced three from Germany, days before the Brexit transition.
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 3 жыл бұрын
Sweetwater has Unitunes on Sale now for $19 = Feb 2021
@carmineanastasio
@carmineanastasio 3 жыл бұрын
@@michael_caz_nyc Thank you Michael...that is a great price!
@danmar007
@danmar007 2 жыл бұрын
That's a lovely guitar.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Eastman AR805.
@MrShadowofthewind
@MrShadowofthewind 3 жыл бұрын
If only the tc electronics one could rotate on it's clip, i have one but hate the fact it cannot do this, it also tends to switch off while tuning, that is why i'm tempted to try the d'addario, is that one less accurate than the tc electronic tuner ?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct of course, but nothing is perfect, and I do find the TC the fastest and seemingly the most accurate. Coincidentally, i compared it with the little D;add NS mini tuners that I've relied on since he first lockdown and the TC was faster and more accurate. Yes, they switch off after, 2 (3?) minutes, and yes it can be tiresome. Also the little on/off switch is too small!!! But I got one , then another then two of my zoom clients kindly sent me one (each) so I'm committed to them now.
@Dobrovinskiy
@Dobrovinskiy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@markmensh1844
@markmensh1844 3 жыл бұрын
Sweetwater carries the TC Electronics tuner but I don't know if they ship to the UK.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I went straight to their website - no stock! but thanks anyway.
@markmensh1844
@markmensh1844 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache You are correct. I'm looking in other places now.
@mikatile
@mikatile 3 жыл бұрын
@@markmensh1844 Thomann.
@joelhill4107
@joelhill4107 3 жыл бұрын
I get a kick out of your videos! By the way, What is in that glass? The way you sip on it, it must be more than water!! Beautiful guitar!! Rock on SM!!!!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joel, it really is ... just ... cold .... water. After throat cancer treatment in 2017 - I have no saliva glands so I have to lubricate my mouth all the time. I do find the occasional scotch soothing, but that's only for late in the evening! Thanks for watching.
@TruthToAll
@TruthToAll 9 ай бұрын
So whats your pick
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 9 ай бұрын
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@koky1024
@koky1024 Жыл бұрын
Hola, tengo una pregunta que hacerte: existe ese afinador korg para violín?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
Lo siento, no tengo ni idea, pero cualquier afinador cromático debería funcionar.
@Chriswoodworker
@Chriswoodworker 3 жыл бұрын
You have a beautiful guitar.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@wickedgit
@wickedgit 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Daddario micro tuners just reasonly because its so incredable small and cute. I already have a few tuners but i just wanted that mini,its very handy to just keep it on the headstock. I got the stroboclip also but the first version not the HD i also have a rack mount korg and 2 tuners with analog needles. My first ever tuner was a black Quictune handheld tuner back in 1997 or 1998. I have a small tool box with just tuners.
@TheStudioDrummer
@TheStudioDrummer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@John-ic6zo
@John-ic6zo 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the cat sounded flat!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
He's also too loud!
@John-ic6zo
@John-ic6zo 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache Looks like TC have been bought out/ taken over Andy.The Clip on tuner appears to be out of production.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
@@John-ic6zo Thanks for the advice. Pity.
@Kinobambino
@Kinobambino Жыл бұрын
What kind of guitar is that it's gorgeous Edit: and so are you sir
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
Hi, The guitar is a 2007 Eastman AR805. The old guy is a 1948 Englishman.
@christopherguzzi1316
@christopherguzzi1316 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. But I kept waiting for you to say, "Bully, Bully!!!" and you never did. ☺☺☺
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
??? Why ???
@christopherguzzi1316
@christopherguzzi1316 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of a character in a cartoon I used to watch as a kid. No offense intended. Funny how a voice can trigger a memory from years ago.☺. The cartoon is called "Go Go Gophers", and the character is Colonel Kit Coyote. Btw, Kit has a "silly moustache " too. And he would regular say "Bully, Bully", thus my post. Love your video's btw. I just discovered them.
@bubbatheking9225
@bubbatheking9225 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna know what you think is the best.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, why should my preference be important to anybody? The purpose of comparisons is to talk of each and illustrate the pros and cos of each in order for you, the viewer to make your own decision. Since that time (almost a tear ago) the TC Electronics Unitune has become available again, and I now have a number of them ... if that answers your question.
@bubbatheking9225
@bubbatheking9225 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache I hope I didn't come across as an american smart ass, so forgive me if I did. Your preference is important as a guitarist, and you are a good one, because experiential endorsements lend confidence to a buyer on a budget. And I can tell when people are blowing smoke in order to 'sell' something. I have watched many videos on Y.T. on this subject, and yours is one of the better ones. Just inconclusive. Thanks for the response, I was impressed with the early confluence of ideas.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
@@bubbatheking9225 Thanks Billy.
@zapa1pnt
@zapa1pnt 3 жыл бұрын
It seem, over the years, tuners (other than pitch pipes and tuning forks) have come and gone like women's fashion: change for the sake of change and nothing new. Quality is usually mediocre, at best.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
I've just looked on amazon and ebay for clip ons and the choice has diminished radically, I guess the music electronic industry thinks we all use phones or plug in now. Hmphh!
@Gabe-md2ur
@Gabe-md2ur 3 жыл бұрын
nice stash good sir
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@Buttermilk3696
@Buttermilk3696 3 жыл бұрын
Annnnndd,,,,,,,Rupert had his say! Lol!! He wanted to be the center of attention. Ours hate it when we ignore them and become very insistent.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
I think Rupert might need his own channel!
@nickmcevoy1
@nickmcevoy1 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😆 is that a zombie cat?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
No, just daft.
@jamoncunnington8644
@jamoncunnington8644 3 жыл бұрын
sweet cat
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
mmmm, sometimes, he's very demanding! Tanks for watching!
@bcguitarteacher7328
@bcguitarteacher7328 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the korg out was AWFUL! My cheap korg brick from the 90s was better. TC Poly has been great but the rubber worn off so it's scratching my guitars. Looking at the Peterson of it can do good classical temperaments.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've now gone over to TC Unitunes - the rubber ends seem fine.
@WowIndescribable
@WowIndescribable Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I need a tuner that irons shirts.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
OK.
@nitemirror1
@nitemirror1 Жыл бұрын
your cat braying in the wind
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache Жыл бұрын
Yes. poor old Rupert. He's gone to the great mousing heaven in the sky sadly.
@eddiecuevas1085
@eddiecuevas1085 2 жыл бұрын
What is a poly tune?
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
A more complicated TC Electronics tuner.
@bunkerman99
@bunkerman99 3 жыл бұрын
My stroboclip seems to exremely accurate
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@Mikau-gb8uo
@Mikau-gb8uo 3 жыл бұрын
all I care about is accuracy and it really sucks.. I have 2 of these (eno and boss) and they're unusable.. they shine all green even if you're 5-7 cents off.. compared them both against my korg pitchblack and they're horrible.. I don't get how many pro players still use them.. they're good when changing strings to get close but that's all..
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation. Intonation?
@steveb9325
@steveb9325 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy Our generation: spend half the time tuning, the other half of time playing out of tune!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, back in the day, when there were no tuners, we'd gather together and all tune to on e person, whether his guitar was in tune or not.
@steveb9325
@steveb9325 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyMoustache lol! I remember too well. Thanks for the memories! Merry Christmas to you and yours Buddy!
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveb9325 back at cha! Take care, stay safe!
@jeffcarlson3269
@jeffcarlson3269 2 жыл бұрын
those ns tuners will last forever... just don t do what a lot of people do... keep taking it on and off of the guitar..... leave the tuner on for darn sake!!!...
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 2 жыл бұрын
They should but probably won't. I have observed that the little plastic ratchets wear out. I confess, that I've gone over to the TC Unitunes - bigger and more noticeable and I DO take them on and off.
@sdbracht
@sdbracht 8 ай бұрын
Never hit a defenseless animal please
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 8 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm surprised and hurt that you would think that I could hurt my cat. In 2020 that would have been my large Burmese-Savannah mix Rupert, a very close friend who sadly died due to overdosing by our vet of the time. His passing broke my heart.
@jeffhodge7333
@jeffhodge7333 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be 90 seconds in length.
@SillyMoustache
@SillyMoustache 3 жыл бұрын
Really Jeff? Why not do your own comparison video and show us how its done?
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