Closed For Business: Taking Down Darknet Markets - John Shier

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Security BSides London

Security BSides London

5 жыл бұрын

Darknet markets come and go for various reasons. Over the last several years we've seen law enforcement take down several of the largest darknet markets to ever exist on the dark web. In a story that involves multi-national cooperation, death and deception, this talk will look at the fascinating story behind Operation Bayonet and the seizure and subsequent takedown of AlphaBay and Hansa. It will also cover the subsequent closure, in April 2019, of the leading darknet market, Dream.

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@waldinator3000
@waldinator3000 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the GOOD NEWS is there always will be another market
@josephsmith6777
@josephsmith6777 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the new model is to shut down b4 u get caught
@foxtailedcritter
@foxtailedcritter 3 жыл бұрын
It's always fascinating to see these markets. You got venders being blackmailed, you got exit scams, you got people ddosing and demanding money. There's just endless stories from buyers, venders, mods, hackers and admins. I think these will never stop until all drugs are legalised because there's just too much to gain.
@capekraken2672
@capekraken2672 3 жыл бұрын
maybe not ALL drugs, especially ones do cause significant harm and addiction to people (stuff like heroin, cocaine, etc...). I do agree with cannabis legalisation and maybe (very hard maybe) party pills. Though I do disagree with you because the reason why sites exist is because people want to buy things, and they want to buy drugs because of different reasons. However education I think is the key to stopping most people going out and buying drugs / using drugs
@huddrez99
@huddrez99 2 жыл бұрын
@@capekraken2672 People will buy and use drugs whether they are legal or not. Prohibition does not change this fact. This is true for cannabis, alcohol, cocaine, heroin... Keeping drugs illegal only helps criminals and makes them more dangerous. We know for sure that decriminalization of all drugs is a good idea (Portugal did this 20 years ago) and legalizing all drugs is most likely a good idea.
@jasper6486
@jasper6486 4 жыл бұрын
every time you take a site down they rebuild and make their encryption better.
@squadgamingzone
@squadgamingzone 4 жыл бұрын
if you want to paypal transfer, prepaid cards, credit card, gift card then contact on Instagram this person darkwebmagazine such a great men her market is verified on darkweb if you want to real deal then contact him. he have own market on darkweb &verified hiddenwiki, slikroad4 so contact him...darkwebmagazine. He is darkweb legit vendor you will directly contact Instagram darkwebmagazine
@liamharrington1169
@liamharrington1169 3 жыл бұрын
hasmukh vaishnav fuck off
@kirkus4400
@kirkus4400 3 жыл бұрын
@@squadgamingzone scam much? 💀
@rambo907
@rambo907 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamharrington1169 you kno any good markets ?
@adamcraig7675
@adamcraig7675 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 so so much RXsquad for your trustworthiness
@Jango1989
@Jango1989 5 жыл бұрын
Great Talk!
@noobslayer10101
@noobslayer10101 4 жыл бұрын
Also @21:42 he goes on to say messages weren't encrypted before being sent. This is only true if you used the markets own auto encryption. If you manually PGP encrypt a message with you public PGP and the vendors PGP only then there's no way they can reverse engineer this. Unless they bust you or the vendor and one of the two of you give up you pgp password. Not to mention 50% of the addresses they probably did find were drops or burner addresses.
@Fatvod
@Fatvod 3 жыл бұрын
I can say with 100 percent certainty that most addresses are not burners
@rak3064
@rak3064 3 жыл бұрын
Those who are asking about Best Market, it's just time. Today, Empire is on top, tomorrow another would take the center stage. The DWM saga continues...
@mysteryY2K
@mysteryY2K 2 жыл бұрын
Empire is gone as of sept 2021, case in point
@Nunyaaa12345
@Nunyaaa12345 4 жыл бұрын
I still want to know what happened to Dream
@DetectiveNineHD
@DetectiveNineHD 4 жыл бұрын
Exit scamed bro
@DetectiveNineHD
@DetectiveNineHD 4 жыл бұрын
There legit till it’s time to get out of the game
@noobslayer10101
@noobslayer10101 4 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNineHD they didn't exit at all. They put up notice to everyone to get coin off the site over next 30 days and then posted a link to a new market that had their blessing which never came online. They did the opposite of exit scam they actually had some grace just like Agora.
@DetectiveNineHD
@DetectiveNineHD 4 жыл бұрын
noobslayer10101 it’s been a min since I’ve been on the dw what are the good markets nowadays
@noobslayer10101
@noobslayer10101 4 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNineHD a lot lol no more DDW. Dark.fail is the new source Edit: you asked about good markets. Empire is king. Literally a clone of AlphaBay but has a fraction of the user base and vendors AB had
@anonviewerciv
@anonviewerciv 3 жыл бұрын
Not always the most glamorous of operations. (20:50) 1:35 Silk Road. 10:05 AlphaBay and Hansa. (14:28) 26:00 Dream. 35:30 Wall St. Market.
@rambo907
@rambo907 2 жыл бұрын
Any of these markets up?
@mysteryY2K
@mysteryY2K 2 жыл бұрын
@@rambo907 AlphaBay is back as a honeypot but the rest are long gone
@BlackDragonStudios1
@BlackDragonStudios1 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I've never understood is why gov continues to bring down these criminals when they know all they're going to do is create another operation. Like when one is done another is ready to go it seems like a waste of time to me.
@1stnightcore515
@1stnightcore515 4 жыл бұрын
Because confiscated money of theese criminals are still larger than money invested to their capture.
@xxplosive7945
@xxplosive7945 4 жыл бұрын
@@1stnightcore515 Ding ding ding ding ding
@kristiank1276
@kristiank1276 3 жыл бұрын
all these programs (bayonet etc) are governent programs. these gov programs extort money from tax payers to give to cops on payroll. its an industry in itself! put it this way: if all drugs were legalized tomorrow, how many gov jobs do you think would be lost? how many less convictions, and less prison cells? i guarantee you this: if the tax payers had the option of paying the cost of the war on drugs, or keeping that money for themselves and their families, they would very quickly find it in their hearts to leave drug users to live their own lives, and the narco cops would be beggars on the streets in a heartbeat.
@brianredban9393
@brianredban9393 3 жыл бұрын
They have to do something while drawing a paycheck stolen from the taxpayers. Look at the DEA biggest waist in taxpayers money in history.
@BlackDragonStudios1
@BlackDragonStudios1 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianredban9393 they smuggle 1400 tons of coca into the states every year and the DEA swipes about 40 of that. They're fuckin lost if you ask me.
@ChronicNewb
@ChronicNewb 2 жыл бұрын
y'all come to a video about dark web markets getting taken down and get upset when the guy is excited about telling you the stories of these markets getting taken down. Let's drop the politics and listen to the stories.
@phuklyyve8941
@phuklyyve8941 3 жыл бұрын
Can you not take down the last bastions of freedom please? thanks.
@deemerdeepstate1172
@deemerdeepstate1172 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the alpha bay days. Rip Alex 😢😢
@coltonhaney4202
@coltonhaney4202 Жыл бұрын
they are back
@reallifehilarious2709
@reallifehilarious2709 5 жыл бұрын
What's best market now!!!!!💯
@Froddofromtheshire
@Froddofromtheshire 4 жыл бұрын
@@casperross7605 at this point in time, all dark net markets are bait and trap operations by certain governments. I would only ever order weed off any market and it's legal in my area so... yeah. No demand, no supply.
@alienagenda1984
@alienagenda1984 4 жыл бұрын
They are really to take em down I think. So actually I wouldnt buy on any dark market. Look what has happened to nightmare market recently... They aint safe no more!
@jungle3139
@jungle3139 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianurban422 dream market got taken down too I heard
@Offensiveword
@Offensiveword 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the fucking addresses of these markets!
@Eric-yj5xg
@Eric-yj5xg 4 жыл бұрын
Darknet helps the world so much. You would be amazed of what the gang world can do to people. Get gangs out an youve deleted 80% of the problem.
@creedstat
@creedstat 4 жыл бұрын
Plants should never be illegal anywhere they were here before we were jeesh
@foxtailedcritter
@foxtailedcritter 3 жыл бұрын
If Drugs were legal then we wouldn't be funding organised crime, cartels, crime bosses, Crime Families and Terrorists. But they're illgeal because the government dosn't want you to have infinite tax free money from manufacturing or growing. They don't give a fuck about health or morals if they did Alchol and Tabacoo would be illgeal too.
@daganamiske6830
@daganamiske6830 4 жыл бұрын
Valio! Lietuva!
@josephsmith6777
@josephsmith6777 2 жыл бұрын
They should leave the markets alone and go after c.p. credit card and hit man
@cyclopa
@cyclopa 3 жыл бұрын
"First thing you need to do obviously, take your real money and then turn it into fake money" Wait.. what? Is this guy really saying printed money is 'real money' and Bitcoin is 'fake money'? 🤣🤣
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol 3 жыл бұрын
interesting story. but it's not a good look being so smug about stealing customers' personal information and passing it to foreign governments all on account of their "sin" of buying substances with the wrong chemical formula.
@userOSMP
@userOSMP 9 ай бұрын
especially when "chemicals" like tobacco and alcohol get a free pass just because... shut up, thats why, like all of the double standard BS. I say enough is enough, I want the country I thought was real, to be real.
@marksam601
@marksam601 4 жыл бұрын
Basically bitcoin is traceable. Use Monroe if you want total anonymity
@noobslayer10101
@noobslayer10101 4 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin is tracable but hard to trace of you know what you're doing Monero is much better tho you are right. Most don't even know if Monero or how to use it tho
@marksam601
@marksam601 4 жыл бұрын
noobslayer10101 you could just buy bitcoin and trade for Monero with apps like cake wallet
@noobslayer10101
@noobslayer10101 4 жыл бұрын
@@marksam601 I know but then what's the point of getting Monero in the first place? Lol
@noobian3314
@noobian3314 2 жыл бұрын
Just legalise it ffs
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 2 жыл бұрын
one guy's name was literally Marcos Paulo?
@justknot4481
@justknot4481 3 жыл бұрын
It was marcos , from the narcos ?🤣🤣🤣
@marchunt1154
@marchunt1154 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody didn't buy Bitcoin. Lol
@CrankTypo
@CrankTypo 3 жыл бұрын
the "fake" money is worth 17k now per coin lol rekt
@jaksix2358
@jaksix2358 3 жыл бұрын
Great free advertising smh
@estatesales9818
@estatesales9818 3 жыл бұрын
this is fascinating. the dark web is a stain that needs to be purged.
@mysteryY2K
@mysteryY2K 2 жыл бұрын
ehh, not really
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