In your own words, define “TRUTH”. ☝️🤔☝️

@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda It's a paradoxical question. I can't produce a true definition of truth without first defining truth! So, instead of a definition, I give you some instructions for how to find truth, instead. It's the next best solution, I know, but it has all kinds of applications.

@@ywtcc, so, you ADMIT that you use words of which you have little idea of their meanings, Slave? 😬

Honesty is the Ultimate Truth.

There is truth in all things... "Coffee..? how do you know what coffee is..?" Andrew Cohen

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The original man in black.😊

You forgot the pin stripes. 😊

Ohhhh that's evil 😂

This is what some times I wonder why am I here? It is not my decision. So whose it is?

@@kipponi Common sense, logic, reason, instinct pushes us to a Creator of all this existence who totally exceeds our common intelligence.

Life the unexpected gift even in some of us don't want it.

@@vecumex9466 Life is a gift as long as you are comfortable but for those who suffer with cancer, those who are raped, beaten, mutilated, bombed, see their children torn to pieces, how can we explain to them that life is a gift?

@@vecumex9466 But why Who gives life as a gift takes it back by giving Death too ? We do not exist to do what we want, good or bad, just to disappear at the end. Also life is a gift for those who are in comfort but many people suffer from diseases, poverty, atrocities of wars...etc. There is necessarily a just sequel to this life full of injustice ... The Creator must be JUST.

What you say makes good practical sense, friend, no doubt.. But another consideration could be that ALL of science is an attempt to approach ultimate truths, and today's "facts" could be the naieve fallacies that future scientific insights take historical note of..

@@Bill..N I agree and Science is like any other human endeavor. It's truths are provisional, subject to verification, falsifiable, incomplete, because human beings are fallible, finite, beings.

These people ussualy claim they have absolute truth

I think we arrive at “truth” or “truths” through a _combination_ of both experience (through our five senses) and reason (including math and logic). With “scientific truths” being best understood, imo, by means of the Wittgensteinian strategy of asking, “What are the uses of these ‘truths’ we seek?” and “Which of these ‘truths’ are best for predicting the kind of things we are interested in having predicted?” Probably the best we can hope for (any time soon) scientifically, is closer and closer approximations over time to the “real truths of the matter”, while still, however and nevertheless, never quite hitting ever any of those nails precisely on their heads. But for now I think we can be glad that it is in fact the case that it is _not_ the case that one hundred percent accuracy is required for us to find and make (possibly even critical) use of the _best_ kinds of truths for us _NOW_!_ As a species. For while Nietzsche said, “Once and for all! There are some truths I do not wish to know!”, the time has come, I think, for we as a species to make perfectly clear that we ask is, “What are the truths we _need_ to know NOW! in order to grow and survive as a species? Now. And even so far into the future in time that we could whisper to eternity.” If we wished. As a species. Which seems a very broad field of study, so no one should be unhappy and exception’s could of course be made, but is there any better reason out there somewhere anywhere for studying anything else? How a species survives itself.

Misconceptions about the nature and practice of science abound, and are sometimes even held by otherwise respectable practicing scientists themselves. One of the most common misconceptions concerns the so-called “scientific proofs.” Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a scientific proof. by Satoshi Kanazawa - an evolutionary psychologist at LSE

Even falsehoods can make up reason. I'm sorry you are wrong

Wait!? One can type while having an aneurysm?

In your own words, define “TRUTH”. ☝️🤔☝️

You used truth, at the beginning, when you meant knowledge. Truth is the world, knowledge is our relationship with it.

@@Robert_McGarry_Poems So you state, truth is reality, and knowledge is our relationship with it. but knowledge is also an interpretation within our understanding and recognition of reality. Take our own thoughts, We observe our own thoughts, they are part of us, they are also part of reality, is the truth and knowledge of our own thoughts not one and the same? It also would mean that truth, reality and existense share the same meaning in your use of words? I think truth has many levels of perspective. yours is for sure one of them. Your statement provides a clear and straightforward distinction between truth and knowledge, However it does not capture the full complexity and nuances involved in these philosophical concepts. The relationship between truth and knowledge is a subject of extensive debate and varies based on different philosophical theories and perspectives. So in general you would be right but it is a bit over simplified.

​@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda In my own words! Truth is whatever has resonance within our recognition.

@@blijebij, so truth is any SUBJECTIVE thought that "resonates" with another subjective thought?😬 Got it.🤔

so you are uncertain of being alive and you're uncertain that you're going to die and according to your logic you must even be uncertain whether what you think or write is true or false.

@@smailhamza7251 John Hawthorne seems to think we should be this uncertain about all things, based on the first few minutes of the discussion in this video. What was beautifully illustrated in this opening discussion was how we humans are able to discriminate between the legitimacy of truths and knowledge. For instance, the legitimacy of a guess vs of a reliable prediction. We know that there is a difference between the probability of winning the lottery vs the probability of the sun rising tomorrow - one is nearly impossible, the other is almost certain. We also know that there must intrinsically be a margin of uncertainty in both cases, no matter how certain or impossible any alternative may seem. The ultimate nature of truth was revealed in this conversation, though not explicitly stated. This is that the nature of truth resides in our ability to assess the margins of uncertainty, and to accurately weigh up probabilities in any given situation. So I am very confident that this life is real and I am very confident in the truth in what I'm writing, BUT I must acknowledge that there is always a margin of uncertainty, for that is the nature of what it means to be scientific. Some claim that it statistically MORE likely that this universe is a simulation, rather than it being a 'true' universe. So who knows, maybe you're not even real and this is all in my head! Fortunately, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a fancy bit of maths is not going to cut it in convincing me that the whole world is a lie. I cannot disprove it, but the burden of proof is not me to do so. Understanding truth requires understanding the inherent conditions of consciousness. We cannot be certain, our very senses can be unreliable, our memory easily manipulated. Ironically, uncertainty is the one thing we can be certain of!

You state: " The only thing we can know is uncertainty" So, are you uncertain: (A) Whether you exist or not? (B) Whether you are aware or not? Then you state: "uncertainity is the one thing we can be certain of!" My question: How can you be certain of this since you know only uncertainty?

​@@ravindramurthy3486John Hawthorne seems to think we should be this uncertain about all things, based on the first few minutes of the discussion in this video. What was beautifully illustrated in this opening discussion was how we humans are able to discriminate between the legitimacy of truths and knowledge. For instance, the legitimacy of a guess vs of a reliable prediction. We know that there is a difference between the probability of winning the lottery vs the probability of the sun rising tomorrow - one is nearly impossible, the other is almost certain. We also know that there must intrinsically be a margin of uncertainty in both cases, no matter how certain or impossible any alternative may seem. The ultimate nature of truth was revealed in this conversation, though not explicitly stated. This is that the nature of truth resides in our ability to assess the margins of uncertainty, and to accurately weigh up probabilities in any given situation. So I am very confident that this life is real and I am very confident in the truth in what I'm writing, BUT I must acknowledge that there is always a margin of uncertainty, for that is the nature of what it means to be scientific. Some claim that it statistically MORE likely that this universe is a simulation, rather than it being a 'true' universe. So who knows, maybe you're not even real and this is all in my head! Fortunately, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a fancy bit of maths is not going to cut it in convincing me that the whole world is a lie. I cannot disprove it, but the burden of proof is not me to do so. Understanding truth requires understanding the inherent conditions of consciousness. We cannot be certain, our very senses can be unreliable, our memory easily manipulated. Ironically, uncertainty is the one thing we can be certain of!

No, that’s the stop and squeeze method.

No, the fictional book known as the bible claims that.

@@tomjackson7755 .....is there a bagel in the box??? The only way to discover the "truth" is to open it.

@@cookieDaXapper Are you talking about a fictional bagel in a fictional box? There is nothing to open or discover there.

@@tomjackson7755 ....if you watched the video you would understand.

@@cookieDaXapper I did watch the video. There is a difference here. There is no 'if' here. So it is not only possibly irrational, it becomes just a fantasy.

Even Reason falls short in explaining things. Why are there irrational numbers? Why are there imaginary numbers? Why do we need axioms?

@@brianlebreton7011 *"Even Reason falls short in explaining things."* ... What "information gathering and processing system" other than logic is better suited for revealing the truth? *"Why are there irrational numbers?"* ... Irrational numbers don't mean they are "irrational" (lacking in reason) but rather that they can't be written in the form of a simple fraction. *"Why do we need axioms?"* ... I don't see us as "needing" axioms. I see axioms as merely being self-evident truths that exist independently regardless of how we perceive reality.. *Example:* (1 + 1 = 2), and I need no other empirical support to accept this as truth. "I exist" is another axiom that I can easily accept as truth, ... but I don't need the axiom to exist to know that I exist.

Leibniz believed in a pre-existing harmony discoverable through characteres et traces (a.k.a. CTT), therefore reason was not substantial and could change while there are facts about 'properties' that do not change, although Leibniz would add that perceptions of substances are constantly changing so that there are accidents and modifications etc.

Yes, I think that's exactly right.. Generally, we do AND should lead our lives by informed decisions, logic, and probabilities.. I would only add that philosophical life stances we choose to live by are ONE thing, but it is important to understand our inability to know with certainty what is really true, or not..

Backseat driver.

Ah! You mean the Great Spirit of the Iroquois. Right on _!!_

​@@longcastle4863 Great spirit of the Iroquois or not, Creator is always the same for all of us since our first parents Adam and Eve.

But that does not change the TRUTH of having been married yesterday. The truth remains the truth no matter how conditions change along the way.

Just saying that "truth" is tensed. Past, present, and future truths are not always the same. I hardly think this is controversial. @@glenncurry3041

Doesn't change the truth you were married .. truth represents time in context

Pretty much.

This kind of knowing which doesn't even require ones wakeful consciousness to arise also is that truth . This is a great limit ever reached in terms by knowledge

Space time matter causation. The four horsemen of the minimum. Though some would argue about matter.

So if your eye offends thee, pluck it out… You first 😊 Also, we had laws-things you do and don’t do-long before we had gods or at least long before we had any of the gods we worship now.

Have you ever considered applying for work editing DICTIONARY entries? 📖 If so, I would STRONGLY urge you to reconsider. 😜

>"Does he actually not comprehend that "It's going to rain tomorrow" is an opinion and NOT a fact." Of course he does, that was the actual point of the example, that even if it happens to be true it's still not knowledge.

I don't think you have a very useful definition of truth there. By your definition, I can make any prediction a true statement by adding the suffix: "... or the complement." "It's going to rain tomorrow, or the complement." is the kind of truth you're going to find with that lens. It's tautological. Notice how doing this makes the prediction meaningless? It's not a coincidence tautological predictions end up being meaningless.

@@simonhibbs887 WRONG, his point, as he explained in making a statement of fact "it is going to rain tomorrow", that to him it is only not a fact if it does not rain. That somehow future events change something from being nothing more than a guess even if structured as a statement of fact, become at some later point they become fact! He states: "Does that mean my knowledge know is the same". As in "knowledge" at the point in time where he stated a guess as if a statement of fact. But it is NOT "knowledge" at that point in time no matter how desperate he is to structure it that way. It was not a fact at that point in time. And future events do not change what it was at that point in time! It will always be/ have been a guess, not a fact, at that point in time. And than is exactly what John then says.

@@glenncurry3041 He’s not desperate about anything, he’s asking the guy to explain the concept, that’s all. Thats why when Hawthorne explains the distinction, which Robert asked him about, Robert is nodding and saying “right, right”. This is what Kuhn does, he throws softballs so we can see the expert deftly knocking them out of the park.

@@simonhibbs887 This entire channel, like the Templeton Foundation, is dedicated to God Trolling. Trying desperately to force scientists to pretend they can include a god in their theories. He always tries to so narrowly structure the question they have to agree there might be something. But most stomp all over even that effort. I get a kick out of watching him get exposed video after video.

Allah, there is no god but Him, the Ever-Living, the Ever Watchful. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. All that is in the heavens, and the earth belongs to Him. Who is there that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, but they do not comprehend any of His knowledge except what He wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth; it does not weary Him to preserve them both. He is the Most High, the Tremendous

Please explain. 🤔

How can your statement be true if this is useful verbal gymnastics for others?

Geh weg mann!

Lol! Try Hegel or Kant if you want mental gymnastics. This was playing pat a cake pat a cake we all fall down.

He is

Allah, there is no god but Him, the Ever-Living, the Ever Watchful. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. All that is in the heavens, and the earth belongs to Him. Who is there that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, but they do not comprehend any of His knowledge except what He wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth; it does not weary Him to preserve them both. He is the Most High, the Tremendous

​@@user-dp9ch8xb5qI would like to talk with you and it is important. I think God is Time and Space and perfect eternal hell and heaven is justly for bad and good people as bad and good as we have been ourselves with God. Your life is your perfect eternal hell and heaven, your life is my life and all lives are God's Life. The truth matters and if I am right your praying to Allah would be your eternal hell, and the more you pray the harsher the hell, and if you are right I would burn for eternity in a lake of sulphur.

Asymmetry is when an object intentionally refuses to acknowledge that symmetry exists! Oh wait a minute... that *A* prefix does not mean you have to be actively aware much less opposed to something? Just "not" or "lacking"? as in Asymmetrical just meaning NOT symmetrical! "Theist" belief in a personal Creator God. and adding the *A* meaning nothing more than LACKING a belief in a personal Creator God. But this confuses tiny little minds?

@@glenncurry3041 I will explain why reality is eternal. Something exists now therefore something has existed always because from nothing can not be created something. Nothing is absence of existence. I know 100% sure reality is eternal. If the universe is not eternal then what created the universe is eternal and God exists. The universe can not be eternal because logically it is impossible the existence of an infinite number of causes and effects therefore an eternal first uncaused cause that caused the universe must exist. Because God exists could you please consider the possibility that you are wrong? Could God be the perfect living metaphysical entity all is part of, with perfect justice with perfect knowledge with perfect hell and heaven because everything we do we do it to Ourself with perfect karma being Time and Space?. God is not a horror tale to scare and control kids, but rather something infinitely more serious. Humanity destroy God's Creation ignorant of the eternal consequences believing they are going to get away with doing wrong. Would you consider the possibility that your life could be your perfect eternal hell and heaven? God is the perfect mind that experience everything created from self. The universe has an ultimate purpose, which make reality even more amazing. Would you let your innocent and vulnerable children read this forbidden poetry. My poetry is blasphemous. Listen, I just want peace and justice. I am tired, did you notice my straining effort to try to convince? The war must stop. The hemorrhage must stop. The wound would be deal with later. The priority is to stop the hemorrhage. Time is running out and lives are lost while I am talking.

Truth is in your mind. Your mind changes. What is the truth then? Your mind tricks you into believing. Belief already can never be the truth since truth does not need any belief. Try to get rid of religious superstitions and belief systems of any kind. !!!

rapes young girls and flies on horses? What a sick joke!

Reading the way you respond here to this conversation makes me wonder if you are serious… With all respect for your personal belief or beliefs, please do not try to convince others (so also me) to consider them as true… Like the former responder already stated…: truth is something completely different from things or stories that are being believed. Please, sit down for a moment and THINK about it…

One is fighting for believing and the other is fighting for non-believing! One finds his beliefs coherent and consistent and the other believes that his non-beliving is coherent and consistent. Sceptics and believers are on a constant fight!

@@asmomair easy, just stop pretending belief is in any way an acceptable approach to reality! If there are no facts behind it, if it is not rational, don't bother accepting it by using belief instead. Belief is only used when facts are missing.