Honestly, the tag barrel itself is fine. The problem is the decision to make Colored Bananas and Blueprints kong-sensitive, creating this really annoying situation where a collectable is *right there* but you can't pick it up because it's spray-painted the wrong color.

The Tag challenge was really interesting i wasn't expecting it to be SO LOW it's actually impressive and it really makes routing different and i really wanna try it out and see if there's a way to actually lower the count even more or if 40 is the most optimal number. Great video Cloud!

It's satisfying how the banana fairy counter increases at the exact moment as the camera takes the shot and the snapshot sound 5:56

I remember really really loving DK64 as a kid. I never beat it. I was very close to the end, but was missing 1 Golden Key. Going back to it, the game is definitely intimidating in terms of tedium. But during the age of my youth, where I only got new games once a year for either Christmas or my birthday, the amount of playtime of a game like this was a dream come true.

Just hearing the rules makes this massive game seem all the more daunting

This definitely feels like it could be its own Speedrun Category. I know that some games have low% runs where you try to get as little as possible. But this could be its own any% category with as few tags as possible. Even if its not faster than the actual any% speedrun.

The fact that 37.5% of the tags are only needed for the final 101% stretch illustrates what’s so frustrating about the tag barrels: it’s not fun to tag in another character when the only reward is ten coloured bananas.

The research that went into this nustve been immense brilliant content well done

Keep up the interesting vid concepts & vid quality man! Easily one of my favorite KZfaqrs right now

Gloomy Galleon is my favorite world!

You need way more subs and views. Great vid, as always

Impressive how you remember everything and make the best choices.

Amazing video as always! This and the Banjo backtracking video have been some of my favorites. Keep up the great work and you'll earn yourself one big GB and if you're lucky maybe some CB too!

Every dk64 playtrough of mine starts with doing the "enter banana fairy early" glitch and also entering and exiting crystal caves early.. that way i can start collecting bananamedals immediately trough the rainbow coins and purchase nearly all upgrades for the kongs since entering crystal caves sets the flag and enables all upgrades till crystal caves in all crankys labs.. I love dk 64 but these two glitches make it infinitely more enjoyable, so much so that i don't even need the tag anywhere mod with it to enjoy the game.

Thanks for this man. So entertaining ❤

I think at 13:37 instead of tagging tiny for the lobby GB here, it would be better to minimize your tags required to get key 5 and go straight into Chunky as your 3rd and final kong for opening key 5. If you can get 100 cbs in fungi with Lanky, Diddy, and Chunky, which I believe is all doable, then you can get key 5 one tag earlier and open access to caves and castle. you will have the opportunity to get that aztec lobby GB in between collecting caves & castle bananas for diddy and then tiny

Probably a way to make the counter lower is by playing creepy castle early as Chunky since you unlock it at the same time as crystal caves.

Early Gang. Always down for some DK64 content.

I think my play style meant I didn't tag as much as most people make it sound like you have to. Thinking about it, I didn't even try to play optimally and looking at this, I'm pretty sure I tagged less than 60 times while playing the game. Except for Helm, I definitely didn't change characters more than about every 10 minutes most of the time. Even though Caves, for example, makes it so that you should want to do every character in the igloo and then every character in the cabins, most of the DK 64 levels, including Caves, are pretty small and it is easy to do all of a character's stuff in one level, as you show in your route. One other easy thing to see in your route is that Galleon is the worst level for character switching and Japes requires basically none. Galleon was the hardest level for me to get through and Japes was the most fun, so I think this also justifies to me how my play style and game opinions line up lol. Anyway, I would love to see more challenge and optimization videos like this for games. I'm pretty sure routes like the 101 or NLE route don't really see tagging as much of a cost because of how fast and convenient it often is and backtracking is more expensive in a speedrun context. But challenges like this one are far more about just pushing a game to its limits, and that's fun.

Yeeeeaaah new content on awesome games ! I’m so glad :D

i know that DK64 gets a ton of flak nowadays, but honestly despite it's flaws, i still think it's a great game. and this is coming from someone who didn't play the game till about 2 years ago.

My playthrough was based on 100 percenting each level as one single kong then switching to the next kong and so on. Rather than switching kongs constantly

Interesting stuff glad to see the tag barrel get more respect. This game as a whole has been greatly underrated in recent years

This makes me both excited and scared to stream DK 64 someday. Scare-cited as it were.

Hello! I was surprised by the results of this challenge!

When you first entered Crystal Caves, you then switched to Diddy before going to Creepy Castle. Couldn't you have gone to Castle ewith Chunky first? Are there any benefits for that? Maybe a tag less for the boss door.

This challenge with glitches seems like the most interesting thing ever, since a lot can be skipped with clipping including ALL COLORED BANANAS! Ballaam or someone could make a video on that

This defo needs more attention 👍

I love this idea. I’d like to see this be done with any switch that isn’t forced (forced switches being what you mentioned in some specific boss fights), so restarting the game to be on DK isn’t a way to “cheat” the switch number getting lower. Either way, though, this video is awesome.

I was shocked I guessed right on the money with 25. I was way off for 101% though guessing 70. I'm shocked you can do a ton with the first 3 kongs that early.

Wonder if it's been tried before. Considering how much of a complaint the tagging is, you'd think this would be a common kongmunnity challenge

A backtrackingrun could be a pretty funny speedrun category. The timer only goes up whenever you're going back to switch characters. Instead of optimizing for total time played, you're optimizing for total time wasted.

If id known all this I'd have definitely played more often

2 gbs, 68 cbs, blueprint number 8 and ladies and gentlemen mambo no 5

At 5:24, instead of going straight to tiny, couldn’t you have reset to get back to Donkey for free and opened the Llama Temple first? Seems like that would be more efficient

Watching this only a week out of playing a 101% run of DK64, I'm extremely curious to know how many more tags are required to complete the rest of the game.

This just goes to show that people are unnecessarily harsh on how “bloated” this game really s and how “much backtracking” is necessary. I played this game not unlocking Tiny at all until Castle and if you beat the boss with her, she is technically a ghost character until you jump into the tag barrel, in which case the game treats her as being unlocked. But you can still collect her coins and bananas, you just cannot see them on the world map. This game is awesome and I feel people are so down on this game.

CBs nuts.

This may be a late comment, but I'd like to say, as somebody who already loves DK64, Tagging Anywhere makes the experience a LOT better. Once you try out a Tag Anywhere mod (whether on its own or for the Randomizer,) it's hard to go back to Tag Barrels.

That was interessting 😁 is it faster though? I have a feeling that this causes a whole lot of extra walking, when you could just switch real quick. I'd be interested in where the min/max point is here.

I knew it! The next time someone complains about the tag barrel, I can tell them that no true gamer would ever need it more than 50 times to complete the game.

Ngl theirs already a "mod" to be able to swap kongs without tag barrels. Theirs an whole channel about randomizer for DK64 speedruns and the ability to swap kongs without the tag barrel is in there. So just having thato ne feature is possible.

I swear, if the entire game was designed like Creepy Castle, it wouldn’t have been so malignes

A better optimized route after forest. Chunky clears all he can from caves and switch to diddy Diddy clears all he can from caves and clears castle, ending with the ballroom. Switch to Tiny. Tiny clears the ballroom and the rest of castle, and cleans up everything else she hasnt gotten up to this point, and goes up onto the ship and gets her saxophone pad and banana fairy up there.s Reset for DK DK cleans up everything he hasnt gotten up to this point. Fight the caves boss and switch back to Chunky Chunky cleans up his forest, caves, and castle bananas he was locked out of. End with moving the rock on dk isles that's blocking lanky's instrument pad. Switch to Lanky, Play the trombone to summon diddy's barrel by the forest 😢 clean up all of his bananas up to this point. Go into the kutout fight and use the free switch to tiny to make it back up to the top of the ship. Hideout helm as normal Since diddy finished hideout helm, he can get his blueprint from caves and the 2 bananas from his jetpack barrel by lobby. Doing it this way significantly reduces the overall number of tags you nees to do when you go to cleanup after K. Rool. If my math is right, youll have 198 GBs, 3500 CBs, 20 fairies, 39 blueprints, 40 banana medals and 9 crowns.

I think making the collectables a list to one side, so that the gameplay footage is larger would be better, as it is - I feel that the gameplay footage seems rather small. I'm here for the gameplay, not the list of collectables aquired (which is still interesting). Nonetheless, interesting video.

Just played through the game 101% first time as an adult and first time without a strategy guide. Simply having to tag out is not a big deal when the barrel is super close by, such as in Hideout Helm, or in the Fungi Forest lobby. The issue is when the game puts multiple items in the same room that is somewhat far away from a tag barrel and multiple kongs have to enter the room and grab some different thing. In this situation, there's no challenge or anything interesting about walking back to the barrel and coming back over and over. They may as well have put a tag barrel in that room. The other issue is when there are random colored bananas sitting on a path that does not lead to anything. Gloomy Galleon, Fungi Forest, and Crystal Caves had this. Basically, you have to switch characters just so you can collect only 5 colored bananas because the bananas themselves did not lead into an event that the kong was needed for. This felt annoying.

This was basically a Professor Oak Challenge

I'm currently going through this, and i don't even know if it's any fun... I'm thinking it's not

Maybe I’m missing something, but you collected far more collectibles than you needed for minimum completion. I can’t say if that altered the outcome-you understand this game and challenge better than I-but it felt like more work than necessary to me. Hearing the 101% tag number was pretty satisfying, though, so fair enough.

Great video! What about trying this challenge, but without backtracking? Can it be done?

I don't know if this helps but you should be able to damage boost to the #5 banana teleporter in Aztec as Diddy. This'll give you all the colored bananas you said you needed. This should remove at least one tag barrel

After all these years, im still deciding if I love or hate DK64 or something in the middle. If I could remake the game I'd change so many things, just to start off, I'd definitely cut out the five Kongs, letting only DK and Diddy and for god's sake resize the enemies so they could look proporcional.

I've never been able to beat this game because I've never been good at the Original DK games.

this was of playing seems to be a more efficient way of playing. Just play the game with a specific Kong until you can't collect more items instead of swapping back and forth a bunch. Though, I'd do everything I can regardless of number of swaps just to clear the Factory as early as possible. I hate that level.

There is actually a mod for tag anywhere. And It makes the game so much better, oh my god 🤣. If you can dumo your cartridge ROM on your pc to apply the patch, i recommend it

You scare me sometimes

I'm not convinced that going all the way back to the starting area of the game is actually a superior option to using a tag barrel in the level. If anything, it seems more tedious and unfun. This feels more like malicious compliance with your own rules than anything else.

Joke's on all of you. This is how I always played this game. 40-50 tags sounds just about right.

Just beating the game with 25 was a lot lower than I expected. 101% with 40 was something i figured could probably happen. Still hate that beetle and rabbit

Has DK64 been ported to the NSO? I really want to play this!! Along with Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie!!

How much Tags are possible if you use Glitches like the Lanky Kong Glitch where you can enter all Levels?

i still dont think dk64 should let you swap characters on the fly you might as well not have seperate characters at that point id rather the game not have character specific collectibles the fun part of collectathons is collecting stuff and the games sheer amount of stuff would be far less daunting if you didnt have to run through every area at least 5 times with each kong

I Never understood the argument about the d-pad character switch, if you can switch characters at any time, what the point of having collectibles specifics to them, Rare drove themselfs on a corner with the character specific collectibles since going back to a tag barrel is annoying and switching with the d-pad is boring.

Virtually none in it ? 😮

Ha, Cb

Funny story I was really into the periodic table as a kid and mixing elements so I was like what if you combined Potassium and Gold…. This 😂

No backtracking ? You can’t even fully complete level 1 & 2 because you don’t have all the kongs.

You know. I would argue running through the same level 5 times with a different Kong...kinda is backtracking lol But i can see why its not as bad, cause you get so new parts of the level at the end of the day. So yeah. But it can be annoying as a new player who doesnt always know where to go.

I like this game. But also Fuck this game.

Saving and quitting to change into ddk should count as a tag. The question is what is the fewest times you can switch characters before beating the game. So if you have to quit the game you're still changing characters so it still counts. It doesn't matter if you're going into the tag Barrel to change characters or if you're quitting the game to change characters if you have to change characters it counts

2:59 I’m guessing you’re uaing an emulator then

Good video, but the overlay that puts the actual gameplay in the corner the whole video was really distracting. Reccommend removing things like that in future videos.

Second

Hearing Cb's and Gb's about 50 times in 2 minutes drove me insane, didn't finish this garbage

This really do be a 5GBs, 100CBs, blueprint N°X, and medal N°X-2

I swear I just watched all your videos like 3 months ago and here I am running back the hits 🫡