For centuries people bashed each other with their butts, called 'clubbing' the musket. This was almost a necessity before bayonets, but it was still done when people did have bayonets.
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@carltonbauheimer4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we've all clubbed the musket from time to time.
@robgoodsight62164 жыл бұрын
Last time I had a bit of a trouble to get in from the bouncer!😏
@borg-borg-20152 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and I hit people with my butt, from the bottom up.
@RainbowDevourer4 жыл бұрын
I never forget my musket when I go clubbing.
@joanignasi914 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to have a tight grip on your butt when you go clubbing with your musket
@eljanrimsa58434 жыл бұрын
@@joanignasi91 you don't need a grip on the butt. haven't you paid attention? it's much better to grab your barrel and swing the butt
@logan42154 жыл бұрын
This looks like "a tutorial video on how we should have won wars"
@jamesoneill39224 жыл бұрын
Helps with banging tunes
@Philistine474 жыл бұрын
"Clubbing the musket" is the euphemism I didn't know I needed.
@alexandersarchives96154 жыл бұрын
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@zlcoolboy4 жыл бұрын
Tod has access to his channel again :)
@alexandersarchives96154 жыл бұрын
Totavo thank God!
@dreadthemadsmith4 жыл бұрын
A lot of the early flintlock pistols where designed to be used as bludgeons once they fired their single shot.
@Stigstigster4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely and I would imagine in very close fighting they would be a half decent weapon. A very effective shortish club. Shaped a bit like a knobkerrie it would certainly deliver a very harsh blow, especially to a skull. Powerful strikes from other directions could probably be effective too I imagine.
@raics1014 жыл бұрын
Even something significantly more recent, like mosin-nagant, did a hell of a job as a club. You could club to death a panther tank and it would still fire afterwards :)
@firestorm1654 жыл бұрын
The Scottish Highlander pistol in particular was very nasty in the melee
@ksztyrix4 жыл бұрын
I tried my cap and ball revolver that way. It's really handy an I would not like to be clubbed with it. I think you can easly fracture a skull using this technique or at least knock someone out
@LutzDerLurch4 жыл бұрын
@@firestorm165 They are usually rather small, so I don't see how.
@hiltonian_12604 жыл бұрын
In the matchlock era a lot of muskets had “fishtail” buttstocks. With a steel plate on them it made for something akin to a poll axe; two reinforced points to concentrate the force of a blow. I don’t think this was accidental, as the points didn’t add any functionality as a firearm.
@pa1adin1114 жыл бұрын
A bayonet on a rifle isn't as long as a spear. Mosin nagant, "hold my beer."
@Paladinbr4 жыл бұрын
"Hold my vodka..."
@tiihtu25074 жыл бұрын
The idea was that they could dig defensive positions near Vladivostok and fight off the Germans outside Russian borders in Eastern Europe. That's why the rifle is so long.
@jamesharvey39934 жыл бұрын
Martini Henry wants to know your location
@Russo-Delenda-Est4 жыл бұрын
You have the carbine or the sniper? (I'm guessing the sniper, that thing is ridiculously long) Man I love a good mosin, the carbine sounds like you're firing an artillery piece.
@Quincy_Morris4 жыл бұрын
Bayonets were actually rarely put on rifles. I think due to rules increased fragility iirc.
@Valkanna.Nublet4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a lot of guys like to 'club their musket'.
@guybucknell44814 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Matt: T H E B U T T
@LS-sp5hr4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing someone on youtube stating that a muzzle loading gun, once fired, became a very expensive club. Granted, they were talking about pommels on pistols
@falfires4 жыл бұрын
First you're out looking for hose, now you're going clubbing and talk about the butt for ten whole minutes... Should we be worried, Matt?
@AB85114 жыл бұрын
As a long time subscriber to this channel, I assure you - here we call it Tuesday
@franciscodanconia35514 жыл бұрын
@@AB8511 but... It's Friday...
@RainerLP4 жыл бұрын
@@franciscodanconia3551 Doesn't matter. we call it Tuesday.
@johnladuke64754 жыл бұрын
@@RainerLP The name of the day is dependent on context.
@bBlaF4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a cool enough guy to have trained on the stuff, but barrel strikes are an official part of modern breach team tactics for military and SWAT. If the idea I've cobbled together from a few interactions with the cool guys is correct, it's mainly thrusts with the muzzle at upper chest-head level with the aim to subdue by melee or establish enough distance to shoot.
@stocktonjoans4 жыл бұрын
Bernard Cornwell describes this practice being used throughout the nepolionic wars
@CAP1984624 жыл бұрын
ben Jovi I forget the book or episode but, Sharpe suggests it’s effective at giving a cavalryman a bad day.
@rolfs21654 жыл бұрын
*Napoleonic ;)
@buzzkrieger39134 жыл бұрын
Did a lot of English Civil War Sealed Knot, clubbing muskets put a fair few of us in hospital and we were actively trying not to hurt each other.
@kenibnanak55544 жыл бұрын
Clubbing with your musket is very much a last ditch defense. On the US Western frontier, trappers and settlers muskets were often civilian arms without bayonet capability. History records several times such weapons broke in two at the wrist when used as a club.
@Max_Flashheart4 жыл бұрын
"Stop Musket Time" Was voted the best song to club someone to in 1729
@HoJu19894 жыл бұрын
If the musket has a sling, it could be used to protect the hands somewhat. It's a thick strap of leather after all. A reason to club the musket other than blind fear/anger could be maybe to fell a horse striking it in the head, because a simple jab with the butt probably won't be enough. Or to finish off an opponent who's on the ground, where defence and nimbleness may not be that much of a concern but maximizing the force may be, especially if the opponent is armoured.
@buzzkrieger39134 жыл бұрын
Musketmen shouldn't be in melee, but it did happen, frequently against other musket units as they march fired into each other due to the terrible accuracy. Having had experience in C16th staged battles you'd be surprised at the amount of broken bones inflicted whilst actively trying not to hurt each other. The battles weren't to the death, but to the submission or rout and badly beaten is enough. Nobody was armoured past breast/back plate and helmet and that would be limited to pike and cavalry. Broken hands and arms are enough to disable an opponent and that's all you really need. Especially true if you're only holding up the front ranks so your own rear ranks can reload for the next volley or hold tight for an adjacent formation to fire into your opponents. Bayonets are better, but that's because spear handily beats club when in formation.
@steveno31414 жыл бұрын
You can also jab with the barrel or the butt, one of the technics they teach in basic is jab with the barrel hook with the butt, then jab with the butt into a down stroke with the barrel/bayonet.
@thegangvault24 жыл бұрын
I imagine using the rifle or musket as a club was a bit of a last resort in the age of bayonets, like maybe you got ambushed or something and didn't have time to affix bayonets.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
Bayonets ofren break. Sticking someone with a bayonet will ultimately kill them, it may not how ever stop them from trying to kill you back in that exact moment. A brass butt plate in the face puts your man down. Then you can safely stick them to make sure they stay down.
@miked85454 жыл бұрын
Now I'm just imagining my DS screaming "Clunk them in the nuts with your butt! " during pugil fights.
@robgoodsight62164 жыл бұрын
One video in which: swinging, clubbing, trusting and butt go extremely well together.... And Matt is still carrying a straight face! Superbly done!!!
@muninrob4 жыл бұрын
The bayonette's all edgy, while striking with the back end is the butt of many jokes. Wouldn't putting the same energy into a thrust be a harder hit due to a lower area of impact? Wouldn't blocking a clubbed musket with the bottom of your muket barrel bend your ram-rod making it hard to remove & use? P.S. Please do an episode on the strange "hybrid" weapons of the early firearm period.
@typorad4 жыл бұрын
If you jabbed with the barrel, that would decrease surface area and increase pressure, so you are more likely to break the skin. Swinging gives more power because of angular momentum.
@richard61334 жыл бұрын
Striking with the muzzle is still a valid move in modern use of firearms at point-blank range. You have to stop thinking about it like a gun, and start thinking about it like a martial arts weapon that has the ability to fire a projectile. However, handguns that use the Browning style of delayed blowback action come out of battery when significant pressure is applied to the muzzle. That takes some of the energy back out of the hit, and momentarily makes the handgun unable to fire. Try to fire while out of battery, and you'll have a stoppage that needs to be cleared. A major consideration with muzzle strikes, is damaging the crown of the barrel at the muzzle. In ages past, when steel wasn't as great as it is now, it wouldn't have taken so much force to start deforming the crown or the barrel itself. In turn, the deformity could very easily become an obstruction, and the obstruction can cause a catastrophic detonation of the barrel during firing. Even if the deformity does not cause an obstruction, the accuracy of fire will be degraded. Deforming the crown or the barrel required a skilled gunsmith to repair, whereas a competent carpenter could make a functioning replacement stock. There were a lot more of the latter back then than the former, on top of military quality firearms being expensive in the first place. If you're going to risk damaging something on your musket or rifle, the stock is more expendable than the barrel. Even today, modifying or repairing the crown of a firearm needs to be done by an actual gunsmith. That's one advantage of a threaded barrel, nearly anyone can unscrew a damaged muzzle cap or device, and screw on a new one or a different kind altogether.
@MrPanos20004 жыл бұрын
@@richard6133 You know what you are talking about mate. While everyone else is doing Larp speculations you highlighted an important weakness of a firearm. As a collector of antique firearms I see so many damaged barrel crowns that it makes me sad no joke. We use special ramrods to protect older muzzleloaders from wear or damage in that area
@richard61334 жыл бұрын
@@MrPanos2000 The Revolutionary War and the US Civil War greatly affected (and divided) the people who lived here, but very little battle was done here. Since there are houses and other buildings from both eras here that were preserved or have been restored, they attract the re-enactors of all kinds. They bring their fully functional replicas for demonstrations, and occasionally a family heirloom or other genuine artifact is brought to show people. Though I am not a re-enactor, I do enjoy going to see the history come alive, and to honor those who fought and fell from both sides in both wars. On the modern note, my first encounter with damaged firearms was in the Air Force towards the beginning of the GWOT. The Air Force has a maintenance philosophy of repairing equipment however possible to get it back up to the point of being at least serviceable, until it is absolutely impossible to repair it again. Our rifles in boot camp were M-16/A2's from the 1980s with the auto sears removed, and they had been beaten to Hell-and-gone over the decades. Among the damage, many of them had A2 birdcage flash hiders on them that had definitely been thrown muzzle-first into the ground at some point. _A lot._ I was lucky enough to have one that didn't have damaged sights. And some of the M9s I saw personnel actually carrying on duty had to be Desert Storm leftovers. Allegedly, one of the original AR-601 lower receivers from the rifles purchased by the Air Force in the late 1950s was reportedly seen _on duty_ in Iraq in 2004! They didn't say whether it was on a M-16 or a M-4, but the lower is the one part that is more or less unchanged after all this time. I actually do have an old rifle that is going to have to have its barrel cut down and threaded. It is a 1956 Mosin Nagant M44 out of the Budapest factory. It does not have matching serial numbers, and has already been sporterized. I picked it up many years ago for $75, I think. It is not accurate and the bullets are keyholing. The last several inches of rifling are definitely worn out, so I'm going to get it cut all the way down to the legal limit of 16 inches. Hopefully, that will correct it enough to stop the keyholing, so that it will be at least recreationally accurate and safe to put a muzzle device on it.
@silentdrew76364 жыл бұрын
Do Henry VIII's Mace gun.
@generalbismark71634 жыл бұрын
Who knew butts and hose would be such scholarly topics. Sounds better than it reads.
@adampark99794 жыл бұрын
"You can clunk them in the nuts..." The best thing I've heard on the internet all month.
@BucketPukes19694 жыл бұрын
I love that there’s a few hundred people around the world that wait for scholagladiatoria to put out a video so they can listen through it for innuendos... proud to be a part of this great community 😢
@RyllenKriel4 жыл бұрын
I can hear the British drill sergeants of the 18th century. "Cut to the guts and butt to the nuts gentlemen! Properly now!"
@Throndl4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Tod Cutler's channel was hacked :-(
@flamencoprof4 жыл бұрын
I've never done any more than punch someone, so it is a revelation to me how many creative uses people have found for weapons which they were not designed for, yet which seem very clever and practical.
@dontknow31634 жыл бұрын
"Muzzle thumping" is still a less than lethal option. A flash hider coming into your chest is quite the behavioral modifier.
@elkudos62624 жыл бұрын
"As a club use your musket, o, soldier of fortune, oh, soldier of fortune, ohohoho..."
@carloparisi99454 жыл бұрын
I really like the new context room, it gives the videos a swordy context.
@AdarisTempest4 жыл бұрын
Another major potential problem, especially as firearm actions progressed in size and complexity from muzzle loading, to trapdoors, to levers and bolt actions, is the fragility of the wood furniture around the reciever. Since the wood furniture is hollowed out to account for the receiver and the fire control group right ahead of the shoulder stock, and that would be a natural stress point when handling it as a club. I can see breaks and cracks being common there from clubbing with it. We already see this happen just from the shock and recoil of regular firearms usage, and that's with a relatively linear force travelling along the length of the wood; the orientation that it's strongest. A load perpendicular to the wood from a swing would exacerbate that weakness. Thus, I have to imagine that most soldiers would only club their muskets if they had very little other recourse at hand. But if it comes between your musket or your life, it's naturally an easy choice.
@hart-of-gold4 жыл бұрын
Did some WW1 Australian bayonet last year and this was still in the system in the case of a broken bayonet. And we practiced it turning the "rifle" on the follow through of a downward cut. As for sabre/broadsword vs bayonet on rifle, it is very hard to block or parry either weapon with the other. The rifle is too heavy to knock aside and the sword is too quick too parry easily. The extra reach of the bayoneted rifle especially if throwing the point usually won.
@Schwarzvogel14 жыл бұрын
I've heard that one issue (especially during WWI) with "throwing the point" was that if you missed, you were good as dead since the recovery would be too slow for you to get a second strike.
@hart-of-gold4 жыл бұрын
@@Schwarzvogel1 The point drops to the ground and the butt is lifted and the rifle is able to be used to parry. Against a sword this isn't great but isn't useless either. Also if you or they are on the attack, someone is moving forward and you have one strike, maybe two, during the pass in either case.
@DjDolHaus864 жыл бұрын
Butts to the nuts - A treatise on musket combat by Alfred Hutton
@fgjfjdfghjsfghjsfj4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever questioned it being used in this way? It's an intuitive and instinctive way to wield something the shape of a club..
@paulpeterson42164 жыл бұрын
Clubbing your musket is all well and good, but the Nobel Prize goes to the guy that figures out how to Musket your club.
@Greenmick69824 жыл бұрын
"Clunk them in the nuts with your butt...." LOLOL I had a great laugh at that one. Thanks!
@ManansaPatra4 жыл бұрын
Half swording is ridiculous enough & now we have musket clubbing... can't wait for the next one
@DeliveryMcGee4 жыл бұрын
Point of order: most modern bayonets (and by "modern" I mean after 1800) are more a glaive than a spear. You can cut with them. Looking at the P1907 for the SMLE I have at hand and pictures of current-issue "excuse to give everybody a knife" versions.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
Matt has done a video on that subject. It's a Japanese practice that was borrowed. Effing big sword bayonet to give you a nagata.
@scootergsp4 жыл бұрын
Another potential problem that I could see would be that the impact of a blow could damage the musket. Not only the trigger/ hammer / strike plate mechanism, but also the possibility of bending the barrel.
@milat92874 жыл бұрын
Weapon-hoarding Englishman violently talks about Butts, whilst waving a gun around for 10 minutes straight.
@matthewbirdsall95184 жыл бұрын
The American Civil War featured instances of musket butt clubbing. The Irish Regiment that stopped Pickett's Charge is illustrated with a gentleman swinging a musket over head two-handed. There is another painting I cannot find that shows Confederate and Union battle lines charging each other with muskets "butt first".
@martinhg984 жыл бұрын
tods workshop youtube channel has been hijacked
@anthonycrayne28354 жыл бұрын
I got a super dry shirt in work today and I thought of you Matt. And now here's a video
@123elnat4 жыл бұрын
If you read first-hand accounts of combat along the Transappalachian Frontier, 1775 up through the 1790s, you will run across numerous instances of people hitting each other with a gun, in lieu of a tomahawk or club. I think a large part of that is just that combat happens fast and they already had the gun in their hand. Also, even when at bad breath range they often seem to have preferred to reload and shoot rather than go mano a mano, in my rather limited reading.
@yowza2344 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear, went to club with musket
@freddymcfred174 жыл бұрын
Ten minutes of Matt talking about his butt. I dig it.
@kelleren48404 жыл бұрын
Idk why but the butt jokes here from one grown man completely made this one lose it. I was laughing like a school kid.
@ZemplinTemplar4 жыл бұрын
Some of the mods for Mount & Blade that are set in the pre-bayonet era of firearms allow the players to use their long arms as clubs for melee. Given that reloading is realistically slow, it does come in handy quite a lot.
@MrAtoz-jq5ry4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for modeling good behavior with your trigger discipline. Not only do you understand pokey/cuttey things you know shoot-y/bang-y things!
@TyZaTube4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel
@No0dz4 жыл бұрын
Matt, I would love to hear more about battles where bayonets (or the lack thereof) were THE decisive factor. I'm no expert, but a an example I like: I've read a few texts that in Huamachuco, the final battle of the War of the Pacific (where Chile invaded and occupied Peru), the Peruvians held the advantage until their commander made the poor decision to relocate their artillery. The Chilean commander exploited this with a full bayonet charge. With little ammo left, no bayonets and no artillery to counter the charge, the Peruvians ended up defeated.
@bobmilaplace38164 жыл бұрын
There is a WWII Garand rifle training video where it was practically boxing. WIth thrusts similar to jabs(to gauge the distance and open up) and round house punch analogue was hitting them with the Garands butt.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
Japanes bayonet fighting was exactly that. Purposely taught. IIRC by the same man who developed Judo.
@thelazyreconnoiter5834 жыл бұрын
One of the statues at Gettysburg is a of a soldier with his rifle turned around and taking an “over the top” swing at someone.
@MrSoundSeeker4 жыл бұрын
Yep Matt. Butt is a very versatile object.
@beaconoflove4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, will you ever make a video about the Maori war club you've got on the wall? It looks like a beatiful piece and there's a lot to their history. Thank you for all the years of amazing content.
@MrMorgan584 жыл бұрын
Clubbing with muskets was quite often used in the American Civil War as not all soldiers were issued bayonets (especially the Confederates) and only the officers had swords.
@paulw65504 жыл бұрын
While I totally agree that they were used this way, I have owned 4 replica muskets up through the Brown Bess. I bought them all cheap as the stock was broken near the trigger area as they are fairly thin at that point. Not sure what the people had done to break them there, but I benefited by being able to buy them.
@itsapittie4 жыл бұрын
Like a lot of things military, I suspect everyone knew using the musket as a club was less than ideal but that it was going to happen at times. After all, in the press of battle a soldier is going to use whatever he has at hand to save his life, and as Matt points out, swinging a club is an instinctive human behavior. It was officially recognized enough that sometimes a potential military long arm was rejected because the stock was seen as too fragile for clubbing. Like pouring kerosene down the barrel jacket of a Chauchat machine gun to keep it cool enough and lubricated enough to keep fighting, it was not the absolute best of ideas but it was a matter of life or death. Not surprisingly, most soldiers will choose life.
@nathanielkidd28404 жыл бұрын
It was done a lot, and often enough that it became discouraged. You disrupt your formation, and you run the very real risk of your rifle breaking at the lock. The wood is relatively thin around the lock/trigger area.
@paulflaherty85314 жыл бұрын
In Kipling’s soldier stories, Mulvaney, Learoyd and Ortheris discuss the advantages of the bayonet versus the butt in close combat using the Martini breech loading rifle so the practice continued long after muskets were retired. The bayonet, and the butt, were probably last commonly used in the Korean War especially when the rifles failed due to freezing. The M1 and its successor in the US military, the M14, were the last rifles issued that could be used this way in close combat by US forces. The M 16 was too flimsy, and misshapen, and its successor, the M4, while more solid is too short, especially with the 10 inch barrel. Other armies still issue rifles that provide a usable platform for the bayonet and butt style of fighting. It is certainly not the preferred way of fighting with a rifle, but probably pretty handy when one runs out of bullets or the firing mechanism fails.
@Schwarzvogel14 жыл бұрын
It isn't as handy as you would think. The armies that issue rifles that "provide a usable platform for the bayonet and butt style of fighting" tend to be those which are too poor to afford more modern, compact, and lightweight rifles, or are beaten by armies with more modern and lightweight rifles. Also, the standard barrel length on the M4 Carbine is 14.5". The 10" barrels are on more compact models like the Mk 18 typically issued to special forces, not general infantry. Also consider that a large number of countries issue bullpup rifles like the L85A1, which are even shorter in overall length than an M4 Carbine. And yet, there was a case of a British soldier in Afghanistan successfully using his issued bayonet to repel the enemy. A bigger concern with using modern rifles like these as clubs is that their stocks contain essential components for the functioning of the firearm. In the case of AR-pattern rifles, this would include the buffer tube and recoil springs. With a bullpup like the L85, the entire firing mechanism is in the stock.
@jamesfrankiewicz57684 жыл бұрын
There are accounts of certain individual U.S. troops swinging their rifles like clubs (usually accounted something to the effect of "using his rifle like a baseball bat") up through the Vietnam War (i.e. with M-14's and prior rifles, M-16's and later issue rifles aren't suited to being swung as clubs).
@johnhill95954 жыл бұрын
Most depictions of the final assault of the Alamo, in various forms of media, show Davy Crockett swinging Old Betsy in this fashion.
@nilpuranik70754 жыл бұрын
6.52 that sound 👌
@EldarKinSlayer4 жыл бұрын
Lasted up until the Present day. Hand to Hand in Vietnam by US Troops proved the M16A! buttstock was too fragile. M1 Garand in WWII, Marine friend of my father said the steel butt plate on the Garand made a truly sickening sound smashing a Japanese Soldiers Head in.
@Yimyimyimyim2774 жыл бұрын
I love how Matt just leans into the innuendo
@nathanaelsmith35534 жыл бұрын
It's all bollocks daggers, butts and penetration with this guy
@mmestari4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, I hope you can read this. Someone has stolen Tod's Workshop channel. Please inform Tod about it, if you can. If someone has contact to either Tod or Matt, send them message to inform them that the channel has been stolen.
@evilcyborgpup4 жыл бұрын
Another reason for using muskets as clubs was probably psychological. It is less traumatic for soldiers to club enemies than to stab them with a bayonet. This has essentially been argued by Army Doctor Lt. Col. Grossman in his book 'On Killing'. As a result, this is probably another reason why you see soldiers using weapons as clubs even if they have bayonets/swords available.
@ftdefiance14 жыл бұрын
Ft.Benning G.A. cold February mornings a life time ago! Thank you Clubbing isn't so much a thing with fiberglass stocks
@benjaminodonnell2584 жыл бұрын
The human instinct to "go caveman" and swing heavy objects under stress is why I think the ideal battlefield sidearm sword would be a straight or nearly straight cut-and-thrust compromise blade, with a long and beefy ricasso, on a heavy, highly protective developed hilt. Such a weapon is good at blocking and parrying (because of the ricasso and the hand protection), can thrust if the soldier keeps his head, but will still be effective if the user panics and goes full caveman. The weight of the thing in the hand is also likely to give the user the confidence to use it. Of course, this is all for a very basically trained swordsman. For an expert swordsman, you'd probably want a much more refined blade.
@leehilton96694 жыл бұрын
Strikes with forearm are a part of both American school of the Bayonet during the American civil war . Though clubbing the musket wasn't a part of the training program. Lol Though of course there are aplenty account of men using their muskets as club's.
@AdlerMow4 жыл бұрын
Matt, you don't need to overswing it. Just like swords, you can thrust and swing with small, fast and accurate movements. You can thrust with the barrel into any part of the body and it will stun the enemy. Imagine a thrust to the face or the neck for one!
@benjaminodonnell2584 жыл бұрын
I infer that the the musket was turned around when clubbed is that the centre of balance in a musket is near the trigger, so most of the weight is in the butt.
@gflex35054 жыл бұрын
I always thought those fish tail stocks on early matchlocks looked like they were optimized for hitting someone in the head with the butt
@Sokolo434 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know how the early Americans / Colonials dealt with that topic. I have read about the French and Indian war that the Colonial militias often did not have enough military grade muskets and were forced to used civilian hunting muskets without bayonet lugs instead. So using your musket as a club could have been a valid alternative to the hatchets or large knives they often used as melee weapons.
@animalxINSTINCT894 жыл бұрын
IIRC I believe it was remarked on by foreign military observers that in the American Civil War it was very common for soldiers of both sides to use their guns as clubs almost to the exclusion of the bayonet. I wonder if it was due to a relative lack of training or some psychological resistance soldiers had to killing their own countryman, or anything else for that matter
@nathanaelsmith35534 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video - novel and intriguing. Please do a video on the significance and details of the duel between Jarnac & Châtaigneraye in France in 1547 - or don't.
@Ragesauce4 жыл бұрын
First it was hose, now it's the butt.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
Last Of The Mohicans. No one is sure if the war club started out looking like a musket or if the musket just happened to look like a war club.
@kevinjbonetguadalupe17294 жыл бұрын
Thats a pretty good euphemism
@bofoenss83934 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Just curious - to me it looks like a Brown Bess musket but what pattern is it? I can't remember any Brown Bess's with a semi pistol grip on the extended brass trigger guard as seen on the Baker Rifle. I am intrigued.
@scottyoung13224 жыл бұрын
I’ve often heard that because humans often aren’t inclined to cut or stab their fellow man soldiers often instinctually clubbed their rifles when the bayonet was available.
@jim80454 жыл бұрын
Great trigger discipline while swinging that. Kudos
@MegasTeque4 жыл бұрын
Great vid.
@davidosirisk4 жыл бұрын
hey just so you know, the todds workshop channel has been hacked.
@MarshallBanananana4 жыл бұрын
Not related to this video, but Tod's Stuff channel got hijacked. Better let Tod know asap. Sorry for the OT.
@kallumslack42564 жыл бұрын
I've definitely seen a picture of a Maori holding a Lee Enfield like a club during a haka.
@leppeppel4 жыл бұрын
Will the tale of the soldier clubbing his enemy with the barrel be a future storytime with Uncle Matt?
@garethlloyd14454 жыл бұрын
I think tod's workshop channel has been hacked. It's showing a live stream about bitcoin and the channel name has changed to something like 'biance English' I know KZfaq channels have been hacked recently by pretending to offer sponsorship then they take your channel
@PSquared-oo7vq4 жыл бұрын
I would never have imagined that it took until the 17th century for the bayonet to be invented and used.
@Schwarzvogel14 жыл бұрын
It makes sense, if you think about it. No one thought of sticking blades on the prods of crossbows during the medieval period either, for good reason--the crossbowmen had other troops armed with melee weapons to protect them. Morevoer, prior to the 17th century, pike and shot was the way to go. The firearms of that era were not quite accurate or reliable enough to completely displace melee weapons, and if you have folks with 5 m. spears in the ranks with you, why would you want a bayonet? Anything that can get past those pikes is probably not something you'd want to be facing in melee with your ersatz spear!
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
Until then musketeers were very much skirmishers. Close in fighting was not their job, they were forced into on that day which then proved to a game changer.
@ReisskIaue4 жыл бұрын
I can remember one film where a musket is used as a club while a (quite famous) bayonette-charge: Gettysburg.
@Slash-XVI4 жыл бұрын
So in short when you go clubbing with your musket, you generally make use of the butt end!
@jamesfrankiewicz57684 жыл бұрын
You missed a non-buttstroke rifle-butt attack: the overhead thrust (usually called "the overhead smash" in U.S. Army terminology). It's more of a finishing blow: step in on your dominate side while raising your rifle above your head so that the butt is forward, then inflict great damage to the enemy's head/face by thrusting the butt down and forward with your whole body weight. Obviously, this leaves you pretty open to a counter attack, so this wouldn't be a choice attack unless the enemy is already reeling from a previous strike.
@cuteshadow4 жыл бұрын
fiancee used "clunk them in the nuts with your butt" - its very effective!
@leoscheibelhut9404 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear you mention the danger to the firing mechanism--the most expensive and vulnerable part of the musket. I'm sure that soldiers were discouraged from clubbing their government issued muskets and militiamen from risking their personal property. I'm also sure that in emergency conditions few hesitated to club their musket if it meant a chance to save one's life.
@StutleyConstable4 жыл бұрын
Well, guess I'm watching John Wayne's 'The Alamo' tonight.
@MrChopstsicks4 жыл бұрын
StutleyConstable I haven’t watch that. Only the 2004 version.
@StutleyConstable4 жыл бұрын
The 2004 movie is very good but John Wayne's is a classic. It's almost a swashbuckler with the humor and action combination.
@demonprinces174 жыл бұрын
Prefer the one with Fess Parker
4 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel like a clubbed seal
@exploatores4 жыл бұрын
then you are doing it wrong. you should feel like a seal clubbing Norweigan :)
@johnladuke64754 жыл бұрын
@@exploatores Nah clubbing seals is Canada's thing. On an unrelated note, would you like to buy a soft fur lining for your parka hood? Sustainably and humanely harvested from overpopulated animals, swearsy realsies.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz4 жыл бұрын
A bayoneted rifle is obviously a poor substitute for a proper polearm.....but it is still a substitute :)
@DominusCypher4 жыл бұрын
This might not be the correct place to raise attention to this, but Tod Cutler's youtube channel Todsworkshop has been hijacked by what seems to be a chinese bitcoin scammer that has renamed the channel Binance English. Please help raise attention so that Google might notice and help return it to him.
@Arkie804 жыл бұрын
It's not the correct place and this has been posted about 5 times. It's starting to reek of spam. If you have a problem report it to KZfaq.
@henrybrown86244 жыл бұрын
One point, and a big one, that is overlooked is that a musket barrel, after 5 or six shots, gets hot. Keep firing and it can get uncomfortable to the point that at "recover" you are only touching the wood under the barrel with your finger tips.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
A British soldier of the Napoleonic era would have had hands like sandpaper.