CN 2284 GEVO locomotive 8th notch load test

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Eggrollfaceass

Eggrollfaceass

12 жыл бұрын

Running some checks on the GE evolution in load test, you can see how sophisticated these engines are. Through the screen you can monitor just about anything on the locomotive. I run the engine up to 8th notch and during the process you can watch the HP increase along with various other parameters

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@anthonybush3134
@anthonybush3134 5 жыл бұрын
That engine sounds amazing. You can hear it scream
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
The scream isn't the engine. It sounds like it's the DB fans.
@formidable38
@formidable38 10 жыл бұрын
Im not normally a GE man but that was fucking impressive!!!
@steelcityrailfan4808
@steelcityrailfan4808 3 жыл бұрын
Your in luck! That was a GE
@bw7505
@bw7505 9 ай бұрын
Indeed it was.
@alexmathis8505
@alexmathis8505 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm not "old school" so this kinda stuff is fascinating and I love how GE took locomotive technology into the 21st century. People say it's crazy loud which is indeed cool, but when you watch the gross HP numbers on that display, it's pretty staggering how much HP you can get given the noise level (obv windows were open etc). I can't even comprehend how many sensors and shunts must be installed all over every inch of that thing... and the way it's able to calculate aux loads from all the fans, compressor, etc is really cool. I wish someone would do a video on all of the fan and shutter operation and how they work, what their power sources are, which fans are for the dynamic grids vs oil, water, etc.. maybe just show them cycling on / off too. And how the ducting works / looks INSIDE the loco. To me that's part of the "power" you feel when a loco passes by, you know there's something big in there with fans that loud. I don't think I've seen a single video even remotely like this though.
@formidable38
@formidable38 10 жыл бұрын
22,408 pounds feet of torque incase anyone was interested!
@velocityturbosuzuki
@velocityturbosuzuki 8 жыл бұрын
wow impressive wondering for a while what kind of torque one of these produced.
@formidable38
@formidable38 7 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show how much you know about engines then= fuck all. By your logic you could pull a 10'000 ton unit coal train with a couple of 2000 HP 'blown' big block chevy's developing all of 3'000 pounds feet between them, it aint gona work. You need torque at the crank to turn that big alternator to produce the amps needed for the motors. Horsepower is nothing without the torque, especially on a locomotive.
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 7 жыл бұрын
Horsepower is Horsepower. The blown big block Chevies could be fitted with 8:1 reduction gearboxes to drive the generator, and there would be sufficient torque. 3000 ft*lbs x 8:1 torque multiplication = 24,000 ft*lbs. But the blown Chevies would go BOOM in about 3 minutes.
@formidable38
@formidable38 7 жыл бұрын
Andy Harman indeed. reduction gear Box would be torque multiplication but As you say, they wouldnt last to long not to mention the massive fuel consumption!
@Philios2Glory1
@Philios2Glory1 7 жыл бұрын
How did you get torque conversion from the Traction motors? Or is this just from the crank,
@kae4466
@kae4466 5 жыл бұрын
some people say that something sounds like a freight train locomotive have no idea what they are talking about. now that is the sound of power.
@richardpike1387
@richardpike1387 2 жыл бұрын
Those GE machine's certainly make your chest thump, nearest things we have over in the UK are Paxmans in class 56 and English Electric engines in class 37, 40 and 50s
@Trainaholic2946
@Trainaholic2946 12 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! That sounded absolutely epic!
@slamdvw
@slamdvw 11 жыл бұрын
Holy diagnostic information, BatMan! I would've never guessed there was that much information displayed. Thanks for sharing!
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
That's all through the maintenance menu. Train crews don't see all that.
@Vanakatherock
@Vanakatherock 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for posting!
@METX210
@METX210 10 жыл бұрын
Who in the world would dislike this video? I could listen to the sweet beautiful sounds of that engine revving up all night long.
@wyatte1990
@wyatte1990 10 жыл бұрын
maybe it was the glare?
@METX210
@METX210 10 жыл бұрын
Wyatt E Lol Probably.
@Blackscorpion1963
@Blackscorpion1963 8 жыл бұрын
What happened to the burnout at notch 8? You forgot to drop the clutch....
@steelcityrailfan4808
@steelcityrailfan4808 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's correct. during load tests the electrical output is around 2500 amps even though when motoring you can easily reach 4800-6000 amps on a 4-axle or 7200-9000 amps for a 6-axle. The current shown on the load gauge when moving an engine is just one motor.
@thegeforce6625
@thegeforce6625 5 жыл бұрын
Eggrollfaceass at what voltage?
@zachary5573
@zachary5573 Жыл бұрын
@@thegeforce6625 my best guess would be 600 V
@Primal67060
@Primal67060 10 жыл бұрын
God damn I know they are loud but wasn't expecting to blow my surround sound out. Holy shit. I swear on my mother I just had a locomotive sitting in my living room!
@easyamp123
@easyamp123 6 жыл бұрын
very interesting. thank you for posting.
@IAIS96
@IAIS96 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing locomotive!!!! GEVO!! sound!!!!
@nomon95
@nomon95 5 жыл бұрын
the power delivered applies the formula (approx) P=1,73 xU xI xcos phi where p is in kw U the voltage I the total intensity and the cos pHi is the power factor,generally 0,8...0,85. here the power is in hp but the formula virtually applies to this case. the screens have a great lot of data.
@tarmac2001
@tarmac2001 7 жыл бұрын
Nice sound recording there, I had to turn the volume down right at the beginning so that my cheap PC speakers along with my eardrums wouldn't get damaged.
@demetriospappas1112
@demetriospappas1112 7 ай бұрын
Wow!!!!! That’s some kick ass power!!!!!
@UnionCountyPhotography
@UnionCountyPhotography Жыл бұрын
I LOVE those ES44DCs with those cabs
@talusranch990
@talusranch990 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bad ass !!! Thank you
@hoofkantoor5532
@hoofkantoor5532 6 жыл бұрын
We also use the smart screen displays on our 43 and 44 ge locos the self test swich is also in control aria no 1 in the cab next to the auto stop and start cut out
@easternroutemainlinevideos6823
@easternroutemainlinevideos6823 10 жыл бұрын
nice sound
@d2sfavs
@d2sfavs 10 жыл бұрын
please do a EMD.love these
@Browningarchery93
@Browningarchery93 9 жыл бұрын
I'm a locomotive mechanic and I just blew up CN 2244 during my load test 8 hours ago lol
@DigitalLonestarX4600
@DigitalLonestarX4600 6 жыл бұрын
oh your the fucker I have to thank, I blew that bastards piston last week lmao
@thomasgrosse3406
@thomasgrosse3406 5 жыл бұрын
Atleast your a mechanic and can repair it😂😂lol
@LegoWormNoah101
@LegoWormNoah101 5 жыл бұрын
Oops!
@TCGProductions03
@TCGProductions03 3 жыл бұрын
What was the cause of failure?
@ameerdanial9060
@ameerdanial9060 3 жыл бұрын
impressive.. detail information given by the ifd..
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 12 жыл бұрын
@Trainaholic2946 I left the rear cab door open hoping to hear more engine, but the whining sound you hear is the DB blowers which are right behind the cab.
@dieseltrainfreek
@dieseltrainfreek 10 жыл бұрын
Like the sign near throttle ( SAVE FUEL ) LOL
@catpurrson3651
@catpurrson3651 2 жыл бұрын
Pure joy!
@TheArchDemon729
@TheArchDemon729 11 жыл бұрын
A BEAST
@chessplayerelite669
@chessplayerelite669 9 жыл бұрын
It almost peaked at 5,000 hp fucking sweet!!
@am2261
@am2261 2 жыл бұрын
So this is how the other half live.... Very cool! 😎
@Locomotive450
@Locomotive450 12 жыл бұрын
So, is the purpose of the dynamic brake running during the load test to have something to put a load on the engine?
@cnman234
@cnman234 11 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhh all the beautiful 4400 HP.
@JishyFishy4106
@JishyFishy4106 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds literally like the GE90 Family !
@yomyovi
@yomyovi 9 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to look up pictures of this particular beast what locomotive would I select? I am an airline pilot and yes it does show more system information than the MD-11.
@josephjoestar3275
@josephjoestar3275 9 жыл бұрын
GE ES44DC
@yomyovi
@yomyovi 9 жыл бұрын
Thank Alex.
@yomyovi
@yomyovi 9 жыл бұрын
I meant Thanks
@TemplarKnight1177
@TemplarKnight1177 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! But I wonder, would not the onboard computer find any faults during normal operation, without a dedicated load test? It seems unlikely that a problem would occur in the yard. Maybe a reason is that a load test is testing the dynamic brakes cooling system also?
@anasaltawil5234
@anasaltawil5234 Жыл бұрын
Onboard computer would detect faults, but the load test would allow you to validate repairs or just the general operation of the engine, alternator, and auxillary systems at full force without having to move. Better that than setting a locomotive on a train for it to fail on the road :)
@dinosaurcomplaints2359
@dinosaurcomplaints2359 2 жыл бұрын
I’d positively hate to get a short circuit in that thang!
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA 9 жыл бұрын
Any vids of the load? (or whatever it's dumping the 3MW of power into)
@Locokam6
@Locokam6 9 жыл бұрын
It's dumping in the dynamic resistor brake grids, you can hear the dynamic blowers sound when he is notching the first notch at 0:32 and 0:38, you can hear the increasing speed of the blowers first then the diesel engine increasing.
@McCracken_9
@McCracken_9 8 жыл бұрын
What is the Aux HP? Is that the parasitic HP loss from the other components that are not the main altenator?
@EdmontonRails
@EdmontonRails 8 жыл бұрын
just looks like power going to components like fans and air compressors instead of the traction motors
@daveburton2194
@daveburton2194 10 жыл бұрын
That's some sort of hp
@MrTREKMYER
@MrTREKMYER 11 жыл бұрын
WOW.
@TankCrusher210
@TankCrusher210 12 жыл бұрын
I want one of those screens. Now. lol
@DH4Hobbies
@DH4Hobbies 8 жыл бұрын
explain how multiple engines are interlinked to receive commands from the front engine to match throttle and speed etc.
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 8 жыл бұрын
all the traction motors are connected parallel to the alternator through large rectifiers. they aren't on individual drives or anything. Unless a traction motor is cutout, if the alternator is putting out, then all 6 traction motors are getting power divided amongst them. Like if you monitor traction motor and alternator output, loading the engine to first notch will result in 1500 amps from the alternator split into 225 amps across each traction motor.
@DH4Hobbies
@DH4Hobbies 8 жыл бұрын
+Eggrollfaceass Sorry, I meant to say "multiple locomotives" larger trains will almost always have multiple locomotives pulling, explain the communication of the throttling and braking between locomotives. Thanks!
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 8 жыл бұрын
+DH4Hobbies After re-reading your original I realize what you meant... I'm an idiot. the most common way is a standardized 27 pin receptacle at the front and back of each engine. it's referred to as the MU receptacle and 27 conductor cables are plugged in connecting each engine. the 27 pins are connected through the engine to the required functions of the locomotive for basic operation. things like directional selection (forward or reverse) governor valves, sand, wheelslip indication, dynamic braking engaging, dynamic braking field excitation, generator field enable, generator field excitation, alarm bell, etc. When selecting first notch in forward the controller basically closes some switches by manipulating levers. when those switches are closed not only does it control the locomotive that the actual switches are in, but it carries the corresponding signals through the receptacles to other engines if they are plugged in. the forward and reverse pins are swapped from one end of the cable to the other and from the front of the locomotive to the back which enables trailing units to be oriented in either direction. also I know I said governor valves were a function... fuel injected engines are standardized to the same ABCD throttle configuration in their computers to give similar engine rpm behavior as if it were actually energizing solenoids in a governor on an old school engine. the brakes are connected through 7 hoses coming out of the front and rear of each engine. the "train brakes" are controlled via the big one in the middle referred to as the trainline. the other six are just two sets of the same 3 hoses that basically link the braking systems between engines so they can all be controlled from the lead engine. when you see locomotives in the middle or at the rear of an engine, they're controlled through Distributed power. it's basically like the MU receptacle I mentioned earlier but the signals are covered to radio signals and sent to the other units via radio waves.
@jklbubbublkj7939
@jklbubbublkj7939 6 жыл бұрын
if they are controlled by radio, what happens if you travel through a high interference zone, (train yard, town, ect.)?
@IFreakingEatPeople
@IFreakingEatPeople 6 жыл бұрын
4500 hp holy shit
@BNSFREVIVAL1
@BNSFREVIVAL1 10 жыл бұрын
Only GE!
@SkyhawkACE123
@SkyhawkACE123 12 жыл бұрын
Please do this with an EMD!!
@skullcrusher301
@skullcrusher301 12 жыл бұрын
You don't need a train sim, you have the real thing.
@MrShenron89
@MrShenron89 2 ай бұрын
Notch 1-5 there was a significant increase in RPM but from 5-8 (went from 995ish to 1058ish between 5 and 8) not much, interesting
@alanharvey15
@alanharvey15 11 жыл бұрын
the 1.2 mega watt Power house is a live :)
@dfk4500
@dfk4500 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@V0latyleUSMC
@V0latyleUSMC 11 жыл бұрын
Then, all of a sudden...blue screen.
@slv777darshan
@slv777darshan 4 жыл бұрын
Sound *Jet Engine* !!!!! The BEST Music after EMD-710 !!!!
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
The whine you're hearing is not the engine.
@JishyFishy4106
@JishyFishy4106 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like *Mesabi Zephyr's* video !!
@peckerneck79
@peckerneck79 11 жыл бұрын
Are these screens only accessible in Level 3?
@onyxpartitian
@onyxpartitian 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly yes
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
@@onyxpartitian Lowly train crews are not given the password to access that level unless they REALLY need it.
@onyxpartitian
@onyxpartitian 4 жыл бұрын
@@GEES44DC I understand that, I believe it's basic engine HP and rpm that are shown to the crews.
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed that it's so easy to dissipate all that power in the onboard load banks. I have new respect for the power of electrical resistance heating. But I like the sound of EMD 2-strokes better.
4 жыл бұрын
Can't we just design it for pulling a cable out from the loco and put it into a battery (bank), the power line -- itself -- etc. or anything else on self-load??!
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 12 жыл бұрын
I haven't played a train sim since microsoft train simulator. Mostly because I don't have a computer that will handle it.
@realulli
@realulli 10 жыл бұрын
That was not 1.2 MW, that was almost 3 MW... (about 1200V at about 2450A...)
@diegomayan
@diegomayan 10 жыл бұрын
In line with the almost 4000hp reported by the monitor
@nomon95
@nomon95 5 жыл бұрын
yoy may multiply by 1,73 and then by 0,8 you obtain 4400kw approx.the alternator is three phase.
7 жыл бұрын
At full throttle, what is the auxiliary horsepower of the engine?
@thefr8train
@thefr8train 6 жыл бұрын
4500-4600 horsepower but remember the engine is powering a generator which powers the traction motors so you could consider it "electric horsepower"
4 жыл бұрын
But there's an auxiliary companion alternator! I wanna know how much THIS ONE draws...☺
@user-hm9om4yb3d
@user-hm9om4yb3d 6 жыл бұрын
TE33A-9999
@slv777darshan
@slv777darshan 4 жыл бұрын
GEVO also sounds like a Jet Engine !!
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
That's the DB fans.
@deadeyedickification
@deadeyedickification 8 жыл бұрын
Are you an Electrician or diesel mechanic?
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 8 жыл бұрын
electrician
@deadeyedickification
@deadeyedickification 8 жыл бұрын
+Eggrollfaceass awesome. Fellow electrician here. I have my application in at NS in Chattanooga, TN waiting to hear something. How do you like railroad work?
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 8 жыл бұрын
+deadeyedickification man I left after 3 years for better pay and a better schedule. I thought I would retire there. but after the non-stop stupidity and ridiculous management I ended up looking elsewhere and came out better. I miss it, and still have friends down there, but my quality of life is better now.
@deadeyedickification
@deadeyedickification 8 жыл бұрын
+Eggrollfaceass Yeah I've heard you start out on a rough schedule. That's why I put in for a Signal Maintainer job as well in another yard. I'd like to have that highly coveted railroad retirement, because I won't get much of anything at an industrial plant. I'm already used to working off shifts being I'm the youngest in our crew. If I'm going to be stuck on a shit shift, I'd like to at least get better benefits for it.
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 8 жыл бұрын
+deadeyedickification actually where I worked, signal crews didn't start out too bad schedule-wise, they just traveled a lot. usually in a hotel for 4 days a week but they had three day weekends too. electricians in our shop had to have 30 plus years to work a day shift with at least one day per weekend off. I know the retirement is badass because I thought long and hard about leaving it behind. that's literally the only thing they had that was better than this plant I'm at now. and even still this place matches your 401k dollar for dollar. really it wasn't the schedule or pay that turned me away from the railroad... I loved that shit since I was a kid. but when I saw how poorly managed and how poorly ran it was, and learning that it's not just company-wide but industry-wide, I was pretty disappointed. one guy who used to work there briefly before he left told me "there's better jobs out there, these fuckers just don't know it because their fathers got them hired right out of high school" and he's right. it's a good place to work, but it doesn't live up to the hype. not In my experience anyway. and that's one thing I always wanted to do since I was a kid was work in the railroad industry. they shattered my childhood dreams man. sucked the enjoyment right out of it.
@traingp7
@traingp7 7 жыл бұрын
Net horsepower is horsepower at the rails correct?
@nomon95
@nomon95 5 жыл бұрын
yeap,the net horsepower is less,you may considerate the generator efficiency,the control panel efficiency and the traction motors efficiency.. the total efficiency is approx 80%. But in this case use the resistors grid,not the electric motors
@markantony3875
@markantony3875 Жыл бұрын
@@nomon95 Efficiency in an ES44 is around 92% to 93%. The old first generation diesel-electrics which used DC traction motors and an DC generator were around 80% to 82%. The technology has come a long way since the 1950s.
@jontheguy595
@jontheguy595 9 жыл бұрын
Looks a little complicated I don't think I would know how to work that thing
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
Train crews don't see all that info.
@mj0820
@mj0820 10 жыл бұрын
100th like!
@davidkierzkowski
@davidkierzkowski 10 жыл бұрын
3MW?
7 жыл бұрын
Almost 3,3 MW, to be exact!
@davidkierzkowski
@davidkierzkowski 6 жыл бұрын
João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva unbelievable the power in these engines. Would love to hear it in person!
@DrRichtoffen1
@DrRichtoffen1 9 жыл бұрын
Used to love doing this :) love raping my ears with such beauty
@bw7505
@bw7505 9 ай бұрын
Almost sound v8ish starting out
@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER
@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER 11 жыл бұрын
God i wish we didnt muffle our GE's in Australia!!
@slv777darshan
@slv777darshan 4 жыл бұрын
Is it an AC-44-CW ??
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 4 жыл бұрын
No.
@irasthewarrior
@irasthewarrior 6 жыл бұрын
1:42 2544*1224=3.11 MW The maximum power the engine can develop.
@nomon95
@nomon95 5 жыл бұрын
if is three phase multiply to 1,73 (sqrt 3) i calculated and the reult was rhe same as your,but i forgot the three phase. with three phase P=1,73x Ux I x cos phi. 1,73x1224x2544x 0,80=4379kw the apparent power is bigger,dont considerate the power factor(0,80) and the unit is KVA.
@atsf929
@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
you keep replying....whos controlling who? keep it up, im having fun. like i said before, what you think means nothing to me.
@ansaransar3680
@ansaransar3680 11 жыл бұрын
Malayalammove
@douro20
@douro20 10 жыл бұрын
Too sophisticated...more like a modern jet aircraft than a locomotive...there are literally thousands of sensors in these things, more than half of them being connected to the power plant itself!
@DrRichtoffen1
@DrRichtoffen1 9 жыл бұрын
GEs are too much to remember, EMD all the way. They're mechanical why do I need a censor to tell me the shitters clogged eh?
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 Жыл бұрын
@@DrRichtoffen1 🤣
@atsf929
@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
Bye troll!
@atsf929
@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
no.....just, no
@AllanLoveJr
@AllanLoveJr 6 жыл бұрын
God those units sound like shit.
@johnpapp92
@johnpapp92 7 жыл бұрын
you loaded that thing up too fast. you are lucky you didn't blow up the grid.
@Eggrollfaceass
@Eggrollfaceass 7 жыл бұрын
Nah. These locomotives are pretty sophisticated. There's all kinds of self limiting logic and circuitry to keep it from overloading itself. You can slam it straight to 8th notch while load testing and it wouldn't make a difference. Plus the grids are just resistors, so if they "blow up" from loading them too fast, they already have a problem and would "blow up" no matter how you loaded them.
@johnpapp92
@johnpapp92 7 жыл бұрын
well i know the p42's i test if you load them to quickly you will sen too much voltage into the grid too fast and blow it.
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 7 жыл бұрын
PingasTheFourth Lol you're the same person who bad mouthed a UP employee because you don't think red zones and 4 point contact exist.
@32SQUID
@32SQUID 7 жыл бұрын
Does anybody else think this is fake?
@linof.6494
@linof.6494 7 жыл бұрын
Why would it be a fake ?
@smitty31560
@smitty31560 7 жыл бұрын
Dax Marshall They are to saggy to be fake.
@beautifulkiller6012
@beautifulkiller6012 5 жыл бұрын
Pack Wave no it's not fake... has ur goofy and even been on a locomotive... this is a load test... that sound is 4400 horse power sounding off... why in the fuckin fuck would you think FAKE?
@catpurrson3651
@catpurrson3651 2 жыл бұрын
Pure joy!
@atsf929
@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
Bye troll!
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@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
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@atsf929 11 жыл бұрын
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