CNC machining a cabriole table leg with DeskProto (4-axis CNC)
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Күн бұрынMachining a curved table leg (also called "cabriole leg") on a 4-axis CNC machine is more complicated than most other jobs, as the cutter needs to move below zero (below the rotation axis). This video explains how this can be done using the DeskProto CAM software, and how to deal with some typical problems that will arise. The reward will be a beautifully curved wooden table leg.
@ngmajid 5 жыл бұрын
very good. that's very helpfully in machining in XYZA Axises in same time.
@cncmachine1409 4 жыл бұрын
sory i forget somme thing can i use XYZA in same time in mach3
@barneyrebel0123 4 жыл бұрын
What EXACT machine do I need to buy to do the carving. I understand this is the software I need to purchase, but I'm looking for a machine, that can do the work hand and hand with the sorftware. Thank you.
@Deskproto 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Barney, You can use any CNC milling machine with a fourth axis. Three axis machines move X, Y and Z (translation movements), the fourth axis is a rotation axis that rotates the part (like meat on a spit). DeskProto can work with any brand of machine, see kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8CoeKRenc-wpps.html
@shubhamindoliya4503 3 жыл бұрын
Sir can you please help me to calculate pulse equivalent for rotary axis
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
Calculating pulses is a machine issue. We do not have know-how in that area: we are software makers. So we cannot help you, sorry.
@KofiOwusu-Acheaw-ny7xr 4 ай бұрын
Do have this use whole geometry in vectric aspire
@Deskproto 4 ай бұрын
I have no clue, sorry: this channel is about DeskProto, not about Aspire.
@cncmachine1409 4 жыл бұрын
hi interesting vidéo. i have the same problème to résolve but with aspire vectric and mach3 can you help me
@Deskproto 4 жыл бұрын
We do not have Aspire so cannot help you out. As far as I know in Aspire rotation axis machining is only possible by wrapping an XYZ design round a cylinder. As you can see DeskProto has a different approach.
@AvinashsonawaneArtCam 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto It is interesting Video I have same problem We have XYZ wrapping Kind of CNC with NK 105G2 (manual Rotary On/Off) Can you Configure a post processor that is Compatible with this kind of CNC machine Eager to Hear from you kindly Reply
@Deskproto 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvinashsonawaneArtCam Via a Google search I found that the NK 105G2 is a 3-axis DSP Controller, so I assume that you switch the Y-axis to A. That should work with DeskProto, as in rotary toolpaths the Y-axis is not used. For information about configuring a postprocessor see kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8CoeKRenc-wpps.html
@jirij 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto Thanks, I was trying to find if DeskProto can utilize Y (in this video example) moving simultaneously with A as I need to machine "overhangs" over 90 degrees, but it seems to be a very rare feature in any CAM package (currently using scripts to generate gcode).
@Deskproto 4 жыл бұрын
@@jirij Moving all four axes (XYZA) simultaneously is not possible with DeskProto. Still it is possible to deal with undercut areas that cannot be reached without moving the Y. After finishing the rotary machining (XZA) you can rotate to a certain A angle and then use XYZ tooolpaths - for only that area. You can see this in our Nefertiti video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o56Ris5n1LrNdmQ.html
@LuisLopez-gd9hu Жыл бұрын
I have thought to buy powermill, but in Internet I have not found much info about it, or info so detailed like in your videos about rotary machining. Deskproto sell books or manuals about the use of the whole software? If so, I am considering to buy it. Thanks for the great videos.
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
Hi Luis, We have created two books about DeskProto, that can be downloaded as PDF from our website: a Tutorial book (nine lessons) and a reference manual. The tutorial book also is available in printed form, as "Box with backup CD and printed manual". Happy to hear that you like our videos !
@LuisLopez-gd9hu Жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto it's possible to get support or help at working with rotary machining if occurring problems? Model master 3 axis flat(*. Mmg) extension files is supported by deskproto? Or .Cn files?
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
@@LuisLopez-gd9hu In case of any questions you are welcome to email us. Though for the hobby license support is limited: some hobby users expected a complete training in how to use their CNC machine, which for this low price simply is not possible. DeskProto has a postprocessor for Modelmaster, which indeed creates .mmg files. I do not know about the "3-axis flat" though, as that does not seem like rotary machining. About machines that are not listed please read www.deskproto.com/support-tips-tricks/dp-tips-machine-not-listed.php
@LuisLopez-gd9hu Жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto I understand, I will research more about the machine which is pretended to be used with deskproto, maybe you know it (camel ca1530 turning lathe 4 axis "Chinese")
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
@@LuisLopez-gd9hu I do not know this machine, however I do not expect any problems when connecting to a China-made milling machine. Note the difference though between a lathe (cutter does not rotate) and a milling machine. DeskProto is meant for CNC milling machines with a rotation axis, not for lathe machines.
@ananthn84 5 жыл бұрын
which software your using
@Deskproto 5 жыл бұрын
The CAM software that is shown in the video is called DeskProto, see www.deskproto.com
@sandeepgahlay3298 2 жыл бұрын
Will it work on square gemotry?
@Deskproto 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this same process will also work for square geometries. Though in case really square it might be more efficient to machine from four sides (indexed machining: XYZ paths from each side, with 90 degree rotations in-between).
@bijayfurniture6550 Жыл бұрын
Anyone have cruve sofa or chair leg desgine in stl ?
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
Many 3D model sites offer such STL files, both free and paid. See www.deskproto.com/links/3dmodels.php
@bijayfurniture6550 Жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto thankyou so much sir 🥰
@bijayfurniture6550 Жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto any more desginne free download link sir ?
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
@@bijayfurniture6550 The link that I gave shows all download links that we know.
@user-dg4up5xn8u 3 жыл бұрын
so it doesn't finish the problem area?
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
It is not clear to me what you mention with "the problem area". Anyway: the total leg will be finished, including the area below the rotation axis.
@user-dg4up5xn8u 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto at 9:15 video when the operation is ready there seems to be not clearly cutted the area which is below the center.
@user-dg4up5xn8u 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto can your do some video to show how to cut such a leg from 4 sides?
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dg4up5xn8u You are very right, my apologies. Indeed at that location some of the STL surface cannot be reached by the cutter. The cutter remains at Y=0 (exactly above the rotation axis), and so it simply cannot reach the concave surfaces at that location. This is an undercut area.
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dg4up5xn8u This is on our to-do list. However, creating a tutorial video takes a lot of time, and I have no idea when we will be able to do this. What you need to do is use the wizard called "Two or more sides, automatic rotation" and set the number of sides to 4.
@craftskerala7653 4 жыл бұрын
This softwear name. I am art cam designer
@Deskproto 4 жыл бұрын
The name of this software is DeskProto
@region-sw 3 жыл бұрын
Перевод где?
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
Google translates "where is the translation". We do not have a translation for the video. The Russian version of DeskProto can be downloaded from our website.
@region-sw 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto Thank you!
@raghulila 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, actually we are the manufacturer of 3,4,5 and multi axis CNC machines, if I send you a STL file of leg can you send me the toolpath for the same. But the condition is toolpath should consists of XYZ & A axis movement as I dont want to simply wrap the model. I have NK105G3 4 Axis controller. Because in you above video there is movement of only 3 axis. If you can do the same then we have lots of business to do ahead as I can directly recommend your software to my clients to purchase. Please revert me back ASAP with contact details
@Deskproto 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Raghulila, Rotary toolpaths in DeskProto only use X, Z and A, so they do not move all four axes simultaneously. What you can do is combine rotary toolpaths with XYZ toolpaths, as shown in our Nefertiti video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o56Ris5n1LrNdmQ.html. When you want to evaluate DeskProto you can do so using the Free edition of DeskProto: that allows to start each paid edition in trial mode.
@raghulila 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mL2dqcumyavYo40.html see this I want like this in this video it is for 5 axis i.e XYZ A&B but I want for 4 axis XYZ and A
@raghulila 3 жыл бұрын
@deskproto kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7mefdd1rsuugoE.html this person has made the toolpath from deskproto where all 4 axis are working together
@MattJonesYT 2 жыл бұрын
Audio too quiet
@Deskproto 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Including the noise of the machining would not have any added value.
@MattJonesYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deskproto The narration would be improved by adding a compressor to the audio channel to even the levels then normalizing it to bring the volume up and make the quiet parts evened out.
@Deskproto 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattJonesYT Thanks for the suggestion. I am not sure though how I can do so: my video editing software (Camtasia) has an option called "Volume leveling", and for this video that option has been applied. Note that we are no video professionals, so we have no experience with audio compressors or other advanced tools.
@uzprizm Жыл бұрын
Хороший урок. Пожалуйста, скажите сколько времени занимает обработка?
@Deskproto Жыл бұрын
Google translates this as "Good lesson. Please tell me how long does processing take?" That will depend on your machine: on our lowcost machine this took about 4 hours, on a powerful machine it can be done much quicker.
@KofiOwusu-Acheaw-ny7xr 4 ай бұрын
Do have this use whole geometry in vectric aspire
@Deskproto 4 ай бұрын
I have no clue, sorry: this channel is about DeskProto, not about Aspire.
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