Exactly

Shamzillas Hot Seat Boxing Because the deal was just signed and did not go into effect yet you genius...Keep watching CNN. Let them think for you.

Or you know, use the money for something more productive like the health system or on infrastructure o.o

@@AB-jz9ns , the trade deal doesn't work that way. Only involvement with the the treasury is with companies paying taxes. Mexico doesn't send a check into the treasury.

So right! Omg! People ARE SO STUPID! IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH! A CRIMINAL!

Last time I checked, Mexicans make awesome Pyramids - the wall might be awesome too! Lol

Christopher Duran LOL 😂

Give the 1.5 Billion to Mexico to build the wall. Everybody wins. Lol

That could actually happen...lol

Christopher Duran...made me laugh

EXACTELY! 🙌🏻

CRACK COATED LIME WITH 1 PEANUT ON TOP

As child of immigrants, who has parents that was fortunate to come into America. I believe border must be secured. Wall must be built. And legal immigration to be less expensive and less time consuming tedious process. And put a cap on how many immigrants can come per year depending on a country such as Indian and China.

Thank you @F4h4d1 for this comment. LISTEN UP PEOPLE: a legal immigrant himself supporting the border wall. May God (Jesus) bless those who love truth: Jesus. : )

Amen. The US already lets in over 1 million LEGAL immigrants yearly! Most generous country on the planet! Trump 2024!

Huh?

@@davidgunn4316 His family made a luxury immigration and he thinks that's no different from a poverty migration.

We must think this is a powerful metaphor or quite literally to the t bone.

No you are not..I have a pain in my side with laughing 😃 he reminded me of a little kid trying to explain something.

@@christinawatson5214 exactly, like kid trying explain something they just learned and don't know that well😂

Because Americans now talk too much that you need to explain too much! Talking too much has taken Africa nowhere

He's a fuckin IDIOT! Trump that is.Thank you very much! Lol

Doesn't it tell you Mexico told him take a hike Donald Duck

To keep us out of mexico

Rite

why should American pay billions to take care of Mexicos citizens? When Mexico opens its borders and lets Americans ransack their country, then you and the rest of the demagogues on this post will have an argument. #noonewaybridges

Who knows. People were really stupid enough to vote for him believing that

Bro I don't care about the wall but your dumb. He doesn't mean you can see through solid concrete like magic. He means a concrete wall built and designed so you can peer through it.

@Watch World Burn lol your kidding right??

HE FKN BUILT WHAT BORDER PATROL WANTED

@@beaugoss4833sure he did. A wall that can be dismantled by locals for scrap!

A see through wall as in it has small holes you dingus.

Offcourse not. Tax payer is,ergo all of us. But stupid Trump supporters believe every BS coming out of his mouth.

@Cliff Hanley Yes it's real debt. $4.1 trillion (27%) of Americas debt comes in the form of treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. For instance, as of May 2019 America owed China $1.11 trillion dollars, making China one of Americas biggest bankers. Japan comes in second, being owed $1.1 trillion by america. There are others ,but they are the top two.The rest of the $22 trillion national debt is owed by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself. (Governments borrow money from the world banks)

@Cliff Hanley World economics is very complex and i don't pretend to be an expert but here is my understanding of it. The debt America owes China ,Japan and others is in treasury securities. You can look at it this way....on the world stage, countries are run like businesses and they often invest in each other by way of treasury bills,notes and bonds.America is heavily invested in China, japan and others with these sorts of treasury securities and visa versa. ( they are heavily invested in america also) . This is done on a sort of buy now pay later deal. If the US refuse to pay china, then china has the option of dumping these securities onto the open market (for others to buy). This would send the american economy into a tail spin because they would lose their total investment.but it would also hurt china as they would also lose a lot of money because the price of the treasury securities would drop drastically. This in turn would cause panic sales from other countries and the worlds economy would be in danger of collapsing. (and that's no good for anyone) So imagine you had a business and i brought $1000000 worth of shares in it. This would drive your share prices up, making your company worth more money. But then if i sold them all in one go, your share prices would drop drastically, making your other investors nervous and start to "panic sell" because they would fear losing ALL their money. This would make your company worth less money. The other thing is, americas credibility as a "business" would be shot and other countries wouldn't want to invest in america or american owned companies and they would be wary of america investing in their countries or companies owned by them. (put simply, nobody would want to do business with america). So all countries (including america) have to operate under the rules in order to maintain the world economy. With regards to your last question. The debt of the public forms part of a countries total debt and just like foreign countries, citizens can also buy bonds issued by their own government. Which is in effect lending their own government money. Governments can also borrow money from the world bank which is owned by 187 different countries. (most of the world countries are members of this). So when america borrows from the world bank, it is in fact borrowing from a bank in which it has part ownership of. so put simply, it's borrowing money from itself as well as other countries because they all own the bank together. I hope this helps answer your question.

@Cliff Hanley The world banks financial reserves (money) comes from several sources and raises funds in much the same way a normal bank does. So things like ,interest and fees on loans it's made to different countries, investments, and also contributions made by it's members (particularly the wealthier ones.) who are essentially investing (buying shares) in the bank. So that means the richer countries have a larger share in the bank and therefore make more money out of the banks profits.

@Cliff HanleyWell Cliff this is where it gets a bit complicated. America is one of the biggest shareholders in the world bank. If America was to start selling off it's own shares, their shares in the bank could become worth less than they paid for them. Also they would miss out on a large portion of the banks profits. It's worth mentioning that the world bank was set up just after world war two, in order to help the poorer countries, by lending them money to build infrastructure. So if a major investor like the US was to start selling off it's shares it could upset the world economy which would ultimately hurt America. Also, being a major share holder in the world bank, gives a country a position of power, and america doesn't want to lose that.

If you think that was the worst think clinton ever did then you have been misinformed for a very long time.

Right,😂😂😂😂😂 and this idiot talking about building a wall, that may even work, and we haven't even completely recovered from Katrina and the disaster in Texas yet

@@ozzgerr and I'm 100% certain that you don't have a point.

@@spidersense589 In case you had not noticed we've had plenty of disasters with criminal illegals crossing our border and causing us more problems with crimes, drugs and even human trafficking. All the other presidents talked about better border security but that's where it ended and none of them were attacked for not keeping their word.

Clinton Cartel did sooo much more than that. "I did not have sexual relations" Clinton ALSO said this about illegals "We are a nation of immigrants and we should all be proud of that. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, there is too much of it and we must do much more to stop it." -- President Bill Clinton, 1995

Exactly, no wonder Trump university closed down. My 13 year old kid has a better understanding of economics than this fool.

thank you.

Exactly. He does not understand what he is trying to talk about. A tariff is a charge, one that is inevitably passed on to the BUYER, drum roll all you dumb fuckers that support Drumpf, that is a charge paid by YOU and all other people in the US, on ANY Chinese made product, or any product that is made using materials or ingredients that currently have tariffs placed upon them, and that you purchase. You know like you Iphone, tv, microwave, sound system, computer, food, the list is endless.

He still doesn't understand😳

Actually, he's hoping his minions won't understand or question.

"Its going to be made out of Anerican steel. More jobs for us"

Exactly 😂😂😂

very funny...

I mean.. I'm against the wall but i'm not going to pretend he didn't address the question, lol.

You stupid? He said that in response to her saying that he said that it would be made out of concrete. Guess you must have actually blanked out for a few moments, but not like I'm really surprised...

Very loose problem tight with screw

"Very nice question so beautifully asked, even though I just answered it." Is what he said.

@@gatolibero8329 Lied, then. Still lying now.

What’s your favorite ice cream flavor?

I died

I literally read your comment and within a second of him saying it word for word

😂😂😂😂😂

MERICA!

I'm either really high or our president actually said that. Bruh.... 😂

SupaDupaFli79 funny stuff

You r the MVP lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Facts

😂😂😂😂😂😂

LOL

IT'S AWESOME I LOVE HOW STUPID HE IS. COULD YOU IMAGINE IF HE EVER TOLD THE TRUTH HE MIGHT HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND DIE. PLEASE DEVIL TAKE HIM NOW PLEASE.

😆😆😆

If this is true why do they build bridges and buildings with concrete?

@@fukhue8226a steel bridge would be impractically expensive

​@@ike5276Mexico is not paying a cent for this wall.

The Racist got beat out of their evil money

Only trump 👍👍👍

Did Mexico pay?

@@chivala7189 no bro

@Watch World Burn yeah I thought it was very unlikely but hey Trump insulted his way to presidency so I thought he might have found a way to make the president of Mexico pay :') I heard that Mexico did actually paid something like 2 billion in regard to immigration under Biden administration, is that correct? Might that be a fruit of what Trump was trying to do? I heard him defend himself saying that even though Mexico didn't pay they will refund America. Another time he said mexico is "paying the wall" through the income from the trade deal Trump made... I really think Trump was very good for America but this, to me, made him look not very trustworthy even though the good he did. What's your take on that? (I'm not an American I just have America at heart)

They aren’t paying for the wall.

Because dems

Lol useless waste of money.

greenpooh24 Trump has something up his sleeve- to tax on Western Union US Dollars to Mexico..Doesn’t that sound like Mexico paying for the Wall. I’ll be back when he announces it.

@Alice Green Why is it in the US's interest to build a wall?

He can't, he knows he lied to his supporters.

Mike Manuel: Me either! I'm gonna switch to another video. I wanted to hear CNN, not this condescending man!

Incoherent incompetent ignorant lying Adderall taking buffoon

My penis is stronger and more beautiful than trumps Don't you miss G W Bush and his silly ways of trying to say nuclear after this shit. I really do wish trump could be a great president but that hope dims by Billions & Billions each time he opens his mouth Peace Love Happiness RRR David

@hikster I'm sorry, did you say something?

Bruh she got owned🤣🤣

@@lithaericsson3069 he mopped the floor with her

@@Costarluv007 you retards say that about everything he says lmao all he did was mop the floor with the country and the 'sheep' who blindly followed him

😂😂😂😂

He slakkin he stalling time you never know he could be illumanati and he could already have it planed out and they could have everything planned idfk lmfao I really thing Trump's a little bit stupid he thinks the seller pays for terrifs

Cause he knows who the tax payers

@NICHOLAS VAUPEL right just like he said Mexico was paying for it.

The trade deal struck with Mexico provides funding for the wall, if you listened you would understand that.

Trump just seems like a feisty baby that wants to get what he wants all the time if not everyone else will suffer the consequences. Billions and billions for a wall and probably all it takes is 100$ ladder to climb over it.. what is he thinking 🤔

Lmao!

@@guitartube77 its probably going to have an overhang to prevent ladders

@@guitartube77you know what barb wire is and barb walls

@@guitartube77 "billiens and billiens"

Destroyed by Biden lol how is it not obvious to you

Challenge air strike problem

The next guy or women going be able to say or tweet any thing I don't want here a dam thing from republicans about respect ever from a potus

Gary Johnson please, go back to school!

James Marcus worst* How can be the worst with one of the best economies?

Dirty Red really you concern about my spelling 😃

1000 words= bullshit

Devil trump

You watch too much CNN.

Trump lives America and you don't enough said

Why is this racist organization still on u tube???

He didn't even answer Kaitlans question! What an ass clown

no, he totally took it another direction, no follow up is the killer. She asked 2 questions, he answered the easier one and moved on. They need to be extremely specific

wait, you mean that Mexico ISN'T paying for Trump's wall?... I'd be honored if some fellow concerned Americans who enjoy 80s music would take a listen to my acoustic piano & vocal performances of PURPLE RAIN by Prince and PRAYING FOR TIME by George Michael on my YT channel in tribute to 2 of the greatest vocalist-songwriters in music history. Live acoustic with no autotune. Thanks and peace.

pictures would be helpful for him

No, does anyone every knows WTH he’s talking about?

atleast not like Hillary who gets all the questions one day before the interview and comes all prepared

Yeah, never show up for a job prepared. That’s the worst thing you can do.

He can't answer a question. You have such high expectations of a flatulent old fool that has been a bully his whole life and hasn't even passed a cycling proficiency exam!

@@jayjohnx there was a report that she got one question beforehand at a debate. And look what you turned that into.

Pretty sure he answered all of them

A Trump supporter.

But sales drop charging more. Means an emerging US company can grab that market share

Well you want the I phone that's on you. He gonna make them bring those factories back but hey Chinese slave labor is ok with though right.

Communist China has been bleeding us dry, our economy much stronger than theirs.. democrat leaders silently agree with his tough stance on China

You dumb shit just got used to cheap low grade Chinese products.

Such an embarrassment 🤦🏻‍♂️

That money is in trade will go to our treasury We the people own the treasury, he says that to blow smoke up the red hat illiterates asses and they believe everything he says.

Best comment ever

@@CaptKeo lmao that is not what he meant. He knows nothing about nothing 🤣🤣

American citizens!!!

@@whoknowsthis1 Democrats are morons.. They dont see the game were running on them.

@@whoknowsthis1 oh its a game.. Hes driving the left into extinction

whoknowsthis1 man you are beating a dead horse if you really think they know the difference. Just read their comments. They are ignorant. It’s not their fault they are dumb.

Build a wall against China. 🤔

Did you expect anything else? When you try to defend the undefendable, you always just up up talking in vague, veering circles

You have no likes lol lol

@@Carlos-qn8gi I just liked his comment. :)

You left out the beautiful, new tremendous U.S. steel industry.

@@Carlos-qn8gi oh fr?

Pat Sal LMAO!!! I read this before he said it. But it’s funny because it’s so stupid I knew it was true

@@vilenationgaming hahahaha

@ Pat Sal You salty bro?

@@patsal3307 it's called stupidity lol

trumpism - talks talks talks and doesn't say anything

Charles Ndung'u He thinks he's brainwashing us. LOL! LMAO!

He is in serious cognitive decline.

Because his core supporters only have a 5-10 word vocabulary that they can actually understand without getting lost.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and...

They can just make tunnels xD so retarded this administration

@@sukalemon44 cheaper to blow tunnels then have illegal immigrants in the country

Sorry, mefit1, but you didn't seem to understand that a Trump Wall made with Trump Concrete is absolutely maintenance free and will never crack or degrade. Even if water is pouring onto it all the time, it will still stand and never have a problem at all. I don't know about his Trump Steel Fence, but I have to figure if it's made by Trump it too will last forever and never need a touch of work to keep it strong.

@@jenniferloftus2363 lol

That’s a good solid point. No wonder the Trumpettes are ignoring it. Reality BAD!

Yeah he's not Carl Sagan

Gyna...gyna!!😂

and billions and billions

That tax payers are paying....for a steel or concrete wall?

mac1bc fence

Exactly my thoughts if the trade deal is gonna pay for the wall, then why is he asking Congress for 5 point something billion dollars to fund the wall. And why is the government shut down over it.

Because its a distraction. Government shutdown for months = no income tax refunds or food stamps. Shits about to get real

Because the money coming in from Mexico is not going into Trump's bank account. The money still has to be approved by congress. Was that a serious question?

Because we haven't got enough tax money from Mexico from the deal

shannon allen They really don’t think when they type these comments they probably feel so smart right now

He said it doesn’t matter what it’s called it’s just a strong border

@@theinternetisaseriesoftube5107 Build a 30ft fence and the Mexicans will continue to walk through many tunnels that already reach into California, New Mexico, etc. Five billion is a waste of tax payers money. The President is full of shit as always!

We love our President! Build high and build it strong!!! 💪

Time Sensitive you obviously are brain dead. Trump is going to have a wall and enhanced technology and drones to prevent intruders. Obviously you didn’t watch the video or you just have selective listening

Clearly someone wasn't listening.

When your nice to police they'll give you an extra smoke before taking you in. Trump treats smug reporters like that

Shut it you pathetic slob..

Only uneducated people with no business understanding do not understand that Mexico is paying for the wall. The President is too smart to waste his time on foolish questions by antagonists who are trying to promote them self.

@@AILMinistries -from someone with an educated comment! Thank you! I honestly was beginning to believe there was zero hope from reading thus comment section. I think I must stay away from MSM comment sections!

How can you people not understand the trade deal with Mexico will make billions.

Carl Dixon Billy Madison quote😂😂😂

😁😁😁

lolzzzzzz

Carl Dickbreath how do u figure u buffoon? He answered it perfectly!!!

Is the other Dave actually serious? Or satirical? Tough call.

He never does

The new Mexico trade deal will pay for the wall didn’t you listen

Sure didn't.

YEP....he didn't -_- #straightassclown

confined into the new trade deal, did you not listen, check the facts that cnn wont tell you

Terry G cuz the money from trade take times

alejandro diaz how not building the wall? Illegal immigrants will take the education, infrastructure, medical from American taxpayers? How not building the wall???? Thats just a low critical thinking

@@Felix-wh8pz You are living proof that the money would be better spent on education

alejandro diaz in a perfect world that will happen lol but I’m Trump case his saying if the wall is built it will be less money on border officers and lesss criminals in jails and less things

Really Terry? Please tell me either you are beyond stupid or a third grader.

*Kaitlan

She's a hump-cattle fleshwagon, anyway.

@@dilbertdoe601he’s too fuckin stupid to figure that out. Probably hasn’t gotten past 1st grade. just let him live in his delusional fantasy.

Or behind a metal see through cage like structure

Nah, you're just gonna have to sick on it for 6 more years haha

Should be sent in a down hole all the way to the core of EARTH

Yes he should. I live in the Netherlands, but the day Trump is found guilty in court, we'll pop a bottle of champagne and celebrate it as if it was New Year's day.

Priceless 😅😅😅😅💯

Trump is a fekkin IDIOT.

@@scottlochans4180 so is Biden

@@siddharthpandey548 Trump was, and is MAD AS A BRUSH. Biden oozes common sense.

and more see through than a concrete wall.

Zarr 😂😂😂 I like this

Or my personal favorite "Crooked Hillary"

Billions of billions of dollars of money...that's the part I enjoyed

Zarr lmao billions and billions 😂😂

You spelled “China” wrong 😂

Addams it simply means 'FAILURE"!

Why didn’t he do this 2 years ago? “Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility.” DJT 2012 mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/250975772083380226?s=21

And his love of extortion!!! And he's holding America hostage!!!!

Nahhh. Not in this case. The amount for the wall is so miniscule, this falls on a liberal left Pelosi trying to do anything to stop Trump on anything he does. All along she could be a hero for immigration if she would just damn work with Trump on removing wedge issues.

@@moalester1154 Trump allready done more in two years than any other president.

Indeed. Sad time to be an American.

CNN is the colossal embarrassment !! get it straight ....he talks like a child and you still can’t understand ...what does that tell everyone?!? Dems continue to dig their own graves please keep up the good work please?!?

@bryanatwku Yeah trump is a moron.

Scott Douglass a

Ironically Trump is the socialist.

Larry Luster, I'd listen him to all day, way better than two minutes of Floyd Maywhether Junior

So did Carl Sagan.

Damn you're delicate 😂

More like ready to pour billions of dollars in his pocket because he’s broke his wealth is based on equity that’s why he does not want to show his taxes and trump stop sniffing cocaine

👐🏼Billions👐🏼And billions🙌🏽🙌🏼👉🏼✋🏼👋🏼👌🏼Of dollars

Stupid Californians

Lmao....a steel wall that is see through.

Do you even know what you're saying dumbass? Does your tiny low IQ brain understand what see through means? Steel beams so border patrol agents can see the other side.

Mumble Rap that’s not a wall it’s a fence!!

Kimberley Morris ...put you on the other side and you can call it what you want

You can explain it to Trump but you can't understand it for him. It's frightening he is the leader of the free world. America, what have you done?

Frenchkisssss proof?

Do you like how he thinks it’s great that Jina has the death penalty for what we consider white collar crimes? 🤪🙀

No Medicines for this Idiot 🖕💣🖕💣🖕

Truth Seeker what proof do you need?? It’s how it works, the buyer ( US companies) pay a tariff to import Chinese made products. It’s literally how it works and then the US company passes on the increased cost of making/importing the goods onto the customer

Vee King got that right man.. “Billions and Billions” this guy is no Carl Sagan.. lmao 😂

You nailed it. I'm having a tough time watching this...

Yes, But the Magabillies think they are "winning"

Los You can pass it thru tunnels private planes boats mail etc.He needs the money so he can pay off his base(Putin).or puts in in his pocket when he leaves government. Come to BIg Bend, Texas Marvella There are mountains that are split by the Rio Grand one side Texas a One side Mexico. He can keep the government closed till dooms day. No body can build a wall there. They cant cross because they would be jumping to there death. And no body, no body is going to try to build a wall because they will be dead the next day. He wants to build a wall thru history. These people will fight for each other because they need each other. He keeps saying hes going to build a wall now a fence. WHY THE HELL DOESNT HE TAKE A PLANE OVER IT TO SEE INSTEAD OF FOOLING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVENT LEFT THERE BACK YARD.AND NOT UNDERSTAND GEOGRAPHY. IF I HAD THE MONEY I WOULD GIVE IT TO HIM PROVIDING HE GOT THE HELL OUT OF DODGE. He must be the stupidest of man, to make up this shit and think we cant see thru him. You can fool some of the people sometime; but not all the people all the times. FOLKS PULL OUT A MAP. LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET BEFORE YOU FOLLOW BSPULLEY. Now he talking about what's stronger steel or concrete , telling the reporter in case you didnt know. GOD FORBID WE HAVE ANOTHER SOCIALPATH IN THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. ITS BEEN A Disaster. .

Who cares you judgmental bitch

And nobody even counterpunched on that! 😂😂😂

A f***ing dotard.

Dodged the hell out of the question!

he said the trade deal from Mexico is going to be the form of payment. pay attention and you'll learn.

Uuuuu, no that is not what happened. You seem to have selective hearing and not hear a larhe part of his answer, or perhaps u just have a hearing problem....i am sorry for your issue.

Thank you! He never really answered the question he just rambles .

Yes it does

@@nunyabizznas9051 nope. we pay the tarrifs.

Anyone that actually thinks Mexico was going to pay cash for the wall is insane. Paying for it through other ways was always the game. Don’t be silly people. Also the hinderance of US cash money going back to Mexico through illegal immigrant workers is being halted by cutting the amount of illegal immigrants down. Get along people. These are common issues of security, less drugs, less criminals, less illegals working and sending cash home etc. We are the most generous nation in the world and allow in a million immigrants a year legally. Stop the hate and complain common goals for America and Americans first. If we have a recession or worse we are no help to anyone.

Obviously mexico is paying indirectly/ by toll tax/goods tax/..... Its not american tax payer money/ this is business legally/

Because is a lie

Because he wants to pocket the rest

Exactly... Exactly.

@@gritNglitter301 That's the real truth!

And "Chy-na"

“Bellions and Bellions”

Gerry Svnchez seriously!!!

I totally agree with you.

#MAGA Fuck your complaints lol

give paddy McGuire a call he put a wall for me in the back garden for a few quid and i am sure he could save you some dosh if you ask him nicely

@@peteranthony7115 So it wasn't billions and billions and billions? 😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Jajajaja

@SANDMAN as if he earned it. Small loan of a few million from Daddy right? 🤣😂

2019: they got money for walls but can't feed the poor

They do feed poor! Nobody is poor here in the US. Only the ones hat want to be poor..

@@haroldfrets1268 you're right the problem is simple, Poor is just an Estate of mind Everything starts in the brain, It's hard just to make understand someone that just take 2pac as a reference

Maybe that's why he's dead.

Amen

That’s because you watch some bias media and not the whole press conference like the other retards.

No you don't, Trump does.

Brian H ...if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Fuck off

No one is talking about Obama he’s not president. So why are you bringing him up?

He'll claim the tape is doctored. Can't win with him.

Chris Conger - and thanks to the Texas ruling, now no one can afford a doctor.

Yes. I'm certain he said it was concrete. Of course, maybe he just listened to the bulldogs he had behind him the other day and now he wants just a fence. A steel fence. With beautiful slats. I mean a wall, with steel slats. Or a concrete wall topped with steel slats. It will be pricey. Steel has tariffs now, as we know, because of the Tariff Man.

Ahh shit, here we go again .. 😂😂

Lmao

He did promised that tho

@@gargola1887 he lied

yeah..."here we go again"...trump just trying to chill and have a good time...and then those "up to no good,party pooper" FACTS come in....