wow, all the links and sponsoring and then you forget to link the "amazing" book of this video´s author....you always suck with linking mentioned stuff like other vids and such, but this time is even special for your standards 🤣👍

Yep, seems like this happens a lot on KZfaq. It's a surprise when something other than a sponsor that is mentioned to be linked is actually in the description. I checked audible, but it didn't show up, but on Amazon it did have a link to get it on Audible after all. I spent a credit on it and now it's in the backlog.

Where's the link for the book? I wanna buy it

New Clear Power comes form the Movement of Water. The Radiation Symbol is an image of THE WATER TURBINE obviously. That why the power stations are all by the sea or on Tidal rivers. Cooling water obviously has no need to be tidal.. & Cooling Water = CW = 33.

Are they made from cobalt 60?

😂

Never thought I could look at a terribly deadly substance and say "Yeah, mood."

Dude imagine being older and feelings even more worthless Shout out to all my working adults out there, our time was short

Shit... Based on that fact I'll be dead next year. 38, here I come!

Hahahaha

Did it make the owners lose hair and fatigue?

@@kaibotski4939 That comes standard on a Chevy. Eventually you lose enough hair and get fatigued enough to buy a Corvette.

Friends: "NEEEEEERRRRD!"

​@@jblyon2and for some reason, the urge to place your feet inside of shoes with New Balance branding.

Your friends should be my friends, just sayin'. That's friggin' hilarious.

Meh could be but most likely nothing will happen to them unless it’s every day exposure for years did they do it everyday??

​@@GRIM_MOD even if it might not straight up kill, its probably not wise to take the gamble and win either the cancer or impotency roulette

Unrelated field, but related experience: I sometimes have to do chainsaw work near pedestrian-accessible areas. We always put up signs warning people not to walk through, and yet, someone always does. They always seem surprised that there actually IS dangerous work taking place, despite the signs and the sound of machinery. Our safety measures include checking around us, especially within our danger zones, before we start a fell, or make a felling cut, or even start our machines, since more than once curious members of the public have decided to wander through an area of freshly cut brash so that they can walk right up to someone holding a RUNNING CHAINSAW and ask us what we're doing . TLDR: Nobody pays attention to warning signs, and some people seem to have such terrible self-preservation instincts that they would probably try to fistfight an angry hippo, even if you told them it was a bad idea.

​@@GRIM_MODthe longterm results from radiation exposure show that less is best. Our environments are already full of carcinogens, toxins and microplastics. Avoiding radiation should be a no-brainer for everyone.

@@andiward7068 Yes long term that is 100 percent true, but the human body is very resilient to it still. obviously not saying go get an x ray every week lol but once every few years "if needed" isnt going to raise your risk by much considering what you stated other things that are much worse in our every day life i agree with you.

Mr. Ballen has made an Episode about such a Situation in his Medical Mysterie Podcast. The shit that happend there was Gutt twisting 🤢

That is scarily true. Orphaned sources are no joke.

I'm surprised that Brazil still lets that happen, after the Goiania Incident. At the very least, you'd hope that they were maybe taking slightly more stringent security measures for abandoned radiological disasters in the making.

Check out Plainly Difficult. Lots of great stories about tossed radioactive materials 🎉

That should be a damn slogan -- "Radioactivity means responsibility" aka "if you have something radioactive you're damn well responsible for it. You, your company, your landowner, and your government"

oh the irony...

death by radiation has got to be one of the nastiest ways to go 😕

​@@JackFrost008Oh absolutely. In terms of ways to die I think I'd say it's probably the worst. Definitely one of the most prolonged. Absolutely horrific. No symbol in the world can properly convey the appropriate fear people should have of the materials. When everything is fine, it's golden, but humans are so stupid

It should be frightening!! It’s a terrible way to go

​@@Aryasvitkona that it is... no symbol would show how bad it is... still no way to get rid of radiation :/

Because your life will be very short after you eat it.

Yeah it's probably better measured in joules.

You could eat, but it doesn't do much because your digestive system has died and you starve.

Calories is not really correct, its the equivalent amount of energy not literal calories

@@sauce4137 Calories is correct, calorie is just a measure of energy whether it be food or explosives or a radioactive source

as a Canadian i gotta say, i'm pretty disappointed in NORDION for refusing to remove the old hazard. guess they already had their hands full with all that cash.

@@GertrudeFilthbasketthey may not have been allowed to due to regulatory rules. Sometimes the culprits are the regulators, which, in this case, was one of the root causes.

Canada also puts out a lot of car engines, and has some of the finest engineers and builders working on that stuff. The legendary Hellcat engine comes out of Canada, and despite putting out over 700 horsepower, has never been known to have any problems whatsoever. It's one of Chrysler's best engines. Meanwhile, their 5.7L Hemi V8, a regular naturally aspirated V8 engine, HAS had problems in the past and that one was built in Mexico.

Its because you need a nuclear reactor to make Co-60 by absorbing neutrons. In the US, we tend to use any extra nuclear reactor output for the manufacture of weapons grade Plutonium through enrichment

But no thanks to the guy who actually researched and wrote the episode? Great.

Actually, not always, depending on the element and how far it's decayed. If all the people involved in this incident had dropped it and ran and reported it, they more than likely would have all survived with very little damage.

I was wondering how effective that “warning” actually was

Has a similar vibe as those videos about how to survive a nuclear blast

"Lay down and die" doesn't mesh well our survival instincts. I don't need cognitive dissonance along with my radiation poisoning.

@@Tea_laBlue A nuclear blast can be very survivable though on a number of factors

more like being blasted by fire while wearing a firefighters jacket. (and only the jacket)

Is that fucking challenge?

It's like slowly lowering your balls into a pot of candle wax at 100°C While wearing sunglasses to prevent eye injury due to possible splattering of wax. There is no challenge only stupidity.

Hold my beer

Or protecting yourself from a barret 50 cal with a piece of toilet paper

What is the friggin range on that stuff? Seems like hundreds of meters? Damned scary.

Can you make ridge rings from it tho?

​@@fett713akamandodragon5gamma rays have an infinite range, it all depends on the size of the source. If it's a handful of atoms you can swallow them and nothing's going to happen, if it's an exploding star everything within light-years is toast.

Right. Don't need another Daglian

Dear god, what do you do for a living?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Except 10 years of English studies is mandatory in Thailand since 96... But I get the joke. Poor Grandpa I guess.

Almost like our global approach to healthcare needs a rework.

people who work at nuclear plants have longer than average life spans probably due to better healthcare than average population.

When finish the comment in your head only to finish reading it and end up with a feeling of deja vu Its like the old saying "Great minds stole it from someone else they just don't know it yet" 😂

​@@ex-navyspookthat's terrifying.

In the Soviet Union a capsule of Cesium-137 went missing and became embedded inside the concrete wall of an apartment building... Took them 9 years and seeral dead people before they managed to figure out why the residents of that apartment died of leukemia 😆 This incident is known as Kramatorsk radiological accident.

Depends how radioactive it is, you can just drive around with a Geiger counter til it starts clicking. And Australian highways are very straight, they don't branch off anywhere cos there's nowhere to go to. What did they use it for, "X-raying" rock in the ground, to image it?

@@greenaum If I recall correctly it was used for blasting materials with it like in spectrogram-readings (that's at least what the newspaper article here mentioned about it, but well, they've gotten some things wrong in the past :P )

to be fair I think there was like a 12m radius with a Geiger counter? still hilarious in a horrifying way tho (oh well I guess everyone forgot about Rio blowing up the caves for a little while)

​@@greenaumyeah that's what they did and they found it on the road. But the thing was only about the size of a pea, so it could quite easily have been picked up in someone's tyre treads or otherwise moved off the road. Luckily, it wasn't. But the whole thing boggles my mind. I have handled radiation sources on a minesite in the same region, and the precautions and paperwork were extensive. This one was in a poorly-sealed container on the back of an open trailer, and simply fell out through a hole. In the end, no charges were laid and I have to think the Govt didn't want too much attention on the issue (perhaps because industry practices were substandard across the board). I sincerely hope they're applying serious pressure behind the scenes though, to make sure proper standards are followed in future. Oh and the most common use is for gauges that can detect flow of material through steel pipes or chutes.

reminds me of that Jackie Chan movie (not rush hour, Who Am I?) that had a very reactive element go missing in South Africa.

Hundreds of People from Juarez come to El Paso every day to dig into our dumpsters and collect trash to bring back. Idiots.

Los Alamos was where the Manhattan Project to develop the Atom Bomb was based at. The irony.

The sensors would have picked it up.

That one wasn't cobalt 60 , I think it was cesium something, and it was a powder instead of a metal rod (cesium chloride). And it had a half life of 30 years, compared to cobalt 60 at 5 years

@@MuhmmedNadeem-cy2tj That's actually why they had a radiation detector in the road. They didn't want nuclear material leaving the lab without their knowledge.

yeah I have the feeling that the kind of people who go around 'finding' scrap that they try and crack open with a chisel (despite having no clue what it is) aren't thinking that hard.

I actually frequent a rare and antique electronic components shop and the owner keeps a Geiger counter handy for just this reason. He had an occasion where someone brought a similar piece of medical equipment from this story into his shop that set off his detector. It wasn't emitting at an immediately dangerous level but enough to warrant informing the proper authorities to dispose of it properly. I bought a Geiger counter off of him a few years ago as a novelty item but with the way things are going today it might just end up coming in handy...

Right, in Bangcock.

@@talkingmudcrab718there are old smoke detectors that contain americium and disposal is regulated by one of the nuclear agencies. These aren’t the smoke detectors in you house. If I remember correctly they run off 250V dc.

They usually do, as well as a dangerous gas meter.

Tools for recovering radioactive sources will be destroyed in the process and are thus appropriate to be made from lightweight low cost materials such as bamboo . I know a research institution that protected its most radioactive experiments by a wall of loosely stacked lead bricks .

​@@johndododoe1411i think he meant more the usage of the lead shield to help get workers closer and stuff which came across as an "oh shit we need a plan" arrangement as opposed to normal procedure

I imagine they don't have an experience with this kind of thing either.

@@robbie_ It was their job, though they likely weren't used to it in such an... uncomfortable place. Like collecting and making safe orphaned radioactive sources is a part of their job. But in a field of scrap and no one knows where it is is just a worst case scenario, they were legit needle in a haystacking

Why impressed? Thailand is a developed nation. The scrap metal yard didn't even have a geiger counter handy as employees were losing their hair. And even after the gov atomic regulatory agency got involved the best they had was dental aprons and a lead shield. It was definitely an "oh shit we need a plan" scenario- they have laws in place to prevent this, yet no one bothers to figure one out for when the law is broken?

They probably had a the hell moment when it first went off.

That's good they have detectors. I've known scrappers who don't care. They bust apart anythg & everythg just for a little money. Crazy 😮

The nerve cells, yeah.

@@captainstabbin1230 the yeah cells, nerve.

​@@captainstabbin1230cell, the yeah nerve

@@captainstabbin1230cells yeah nerve, the

​@@captainstabbin1230the nerve, yeah cells

Yeah, they don’t malfunction high. 🤦‍♂️

Why do they always think the Geiger counter is broken in these situations

Im not sure, but I would quess most cases are just malfunctions. The cases when real radioactive material is found is super rare, most people dont encounter a true emergency of this sort through their entire lives. Meanwhile geiger counters having broken parts or low batteriers or something falsifying reading could be much more common. Just a guess tho.

​@@hunternovak4187most people are not prepared to face their own mortality. They don't think anything could happen to them

​@@hunternovak4187because it's the only explanation that doesn't involve them about to die. That and just the sheer unlikeliness of an orphaned radiation source, it's reasonable imo to assume it's impossible. The moment the second geiger counter confirms similar readings, evacuate everyone in the immediate vicinity and call the appropriate people. Any hesitation at that point is negligence

Uhh...it takes decades to develop asbestosis you're probably gonna die in 10 years bro.

It takes 10 to 40 years to develop asbestosis after the exposure.

What was a chunk of asbestos doing in a school playground in the first place?

@@justicedemocrat9357 do we know how old they are now or when they were a child? if their over 40 now then they probably are in the clear. But, yeah, if they are only in their 20s then good chance it just hasn't developed yet

Asbestos occurs naturally in the environment. It’s all over the place in some cities in the Southwest.

It doesn't detect all the threats. Most can't detect alpha radiation and neutrons.

​@@edi9892 Many instruments do detect alpha rays. Alpha rays are unable to penetrate the skin (or clothes), so they mainly become a threat when a source is ingested or placed next to/inside an open wound. Neutron sources tend to release gamma rays and can thereby be indirectly detected by Geiger counters.

@@VVayVVard I looked for detectors to buy and struggled to get one that detects alpha radiation. Food is exactly why I wanted this feature.

​@@edi9892 GQ GMC600 and DT-9501 are claimed to be able to detect alpha radiation. The latter seems to be equivalent to the "PCE-RAM 10" offered by PCE Instruments.

Man that thing would be going off all the time. Radiation literally bombards us every day.

And that hazardous biology can be much deadlier in that case, since it's basically "grey goo lite"

The "moral" of the story is: slapping warning signs on something, does not mean it's safe! You need to prevent illiterates, idiots, or just hungry, desperate people that look for something valuable to sell, from accessing it, for as long as it is potentially dangerous. Give or take a couple hundred years...🤯

damn just like relationships

It's like the risk is squared. Exponentially more dangerous if mistreated, and exponentially safe if treated properly

Hmmm, reminds me of 'Communism isn't bad - it just hasn't been done right yet'.

sounds like Cherenkov radiation

I'd love to repeat that experience. Being able to observe phenomena that are fundamentally lethal to our ability to live would be wonderful... Provided it was in such a way that I would not be irradiated. Observing Co60 in a safety pond would do it.

​@@Aryasvitkona this is my favourite part of my job. Going into the cell to do maintenance work while the source rack is at the bottom of the pool. it's a strange blue glow that seems unreal but it's rather comforting.

I would have the constant urge to jump in. Just like the urge to touch a running fan...

@@albinklein7680 so pretty much moth -> flame?

You just say “if you can read this, you’re dead. Sorry.”

@@scoliosys8311 "If you can read this: Sit down where you are & give up."

I never thought of that. I use a laundrymat that anyone can use, and someone before me could put pesticides dirty cloths in the wash there.

That must be a garbage washing machine and dryer lol.

Used to get wives who did husbands washing would get asbestos off the clothes in their lungs

It gets in the build up on the washer.

Pests have mothers too.

As I recall, the medical staff who handled him were pretty traumatized from that whole ordeal, based on the written statements from them.

Wendigoon’s video on this is heart wrenching.

​@@CaesarSaladin7 and all you need to watch on the subject. Why the fuck do people want to hear different people regurgitate the same story?

​@@GENXJOPLINautism

Im pretty sure they already did one on him on one of his channels

Well, if they stopped working with Cobalt60, I'd figure any forms to allow it's usage no longer need upkeep. Did they still have the permission to even work with it?

Possibly the Goiania Incident. That was a radiotherapy machine, but one that used caesium chloride, not cobalt 60. The whole story contains a spectacularly lax response from the Brazilian courts, a heist straight out of a Buster Keaton film, and a cascade of stupidity and poor decisions so monumental it's a wonder we didn't name the whole affair "The week the species got stronger".

Yup, the Goiânia accident

@@zoutewand Ah, thanks.

@@BrianG61UK the youtuber wendigoon has a video on that incident that is really good :)

​@@zoutewandKyle Hill too

I find that the seeming absence of any intelligence here by those involved more mindboggling.

Look up Kyle Hill, and his "Half-life History" series, or Plainly Difficult's "Sources In the Wild" series; the latter one talks about a similar episode in Cuidad Juarez that affected people on both sides of the Mexican-US border.

@@PlasmaOne You can only apply intelligence to things you know. If you don't have the privilege of having much of an education there's going to be a lot that you are not aware of.

Notice this was in a poor country and clear wanting of money as a byproduct.

@@PlasmaOne It's not lack of intelligence, it's lack of education about radiation. If you had never been taught about radiotherapy machines, or seen a ☢, are you sure you would do better? I agree with OP, the people who located the Cobalt60 rod deserve serious praise. Not registering the radiotherapy machine with the authorities though, that's a major fuckup.

"former" tumor... woo-hoo!

Ayyyy cancer free! Congrats!

guessing it didnt stand a chance

Industrial radiography is heavy, dangerous, and idiots will absolutely cut across the yellow and magenta ropes to get to their lunchbox faster...

​@@MrSplic3r😂 The irresistible force of stupid...

Alara

I worked as a radiographer as well , but with Iridium 192 ......cobalt 60 ...???....probably turn an exposure time of a couple of minutes into a couple of milli seconds !???....lol.........Erik☢️

@@BluesBoy-ij2rb I've worked mostly with ir-192 as well. The good ol delta 880 cameras are my favorite lol.

When the russians last year captured the Chernobyl power plant, one russian serviceman was seen running off with a bar of "something" in his bare hands, that the story claimed turned out to be Cobalt-60. What would the consequences be for such an action?

​@@larsrons7937Dude got Super Cancer

@@jenniferanderson7304 I'm quite sure it was super stupid - and jubilant optimistic.

@@larsrons7937 He's Russian and Russian DNA consists of nuclear energy, communism and vodka. He will be fine. 😁

Notions of 'survival of the fittest' pre-date Darwin... People who believe in Neo- 'Darwinian' evolution, underpinned by random mutation, are none too bright themselves... @@HadenBlake

More entertaining news... they have resumed production of the RTGs, as their not very wealthy nation still has a lot of these nearly inaccessable points that need just a little electricity.

... So a random person was able to shoplift radioactive material from a hospital? I am very curious about that place's security protocols or lack thereof.

@@elliotnolte8298 If you are looking for nuclear material, for whatever reason, a hospital is the best and easiest place to find it.

​@@elliotnolte8298have you walked around hospitals much? Usually no-one stops you

​@@dielaughing73well that's fucking concerning isn't it. this is how you get disasters like that. we should name and shame when it comes to neglectful hospitals, our health can be in danger.

Thank you for insisting to get that situation sorted out. The world needs more people with your mind set!

I don't know man. judging by this guy's highly affected upper class British accent, he must know everything.

⁠@@BrothersCinco@spaceismetal6762 is right, atomic number of cobalt is 27, so it means numbers of protons in nucleus.

WOW nothing gets past you huh?

I'm not intelligent enough to understand that

@@leewightman8619 It's not so hard, it's literally just reading numbers off an internationally accepted table.

Cs-137 is more dangerous since decay with beta particles, meaning contamination risk, and also the decay lifespan is higher than of Co-60

I thought I was going crazy knowing that this happened in Brazil

It is eerily identical and just as tragic, they uncovered the radioactive material that was reminiscent of "blue glowing powder" and the brother of the junkyard owner even allowed his own 6 year old daughter to play with it, she smeared the stuff all over her body. It did not end well for her.

That was the incident that I thought he would be discussing in this video. I've seen several biopics about the Brazilian accident. It was so durned tragic. I seem to remember that some the "blue glowing stuff" got on the guys sandwich but he ate it anyway. Also, the toddler that played with it. It was horrible. I had never even heard of the Bangkok incident. Eerily similar and just as tragic.

@@W0lfenstrike That is the incident I saw a video of here on KZfaq as well. so tragic and sad. that's why you need to have strict rules for anything that contains radioactive material.

Jesus I was long winded there. Sorry for the rambling.

@@bradheath4200it was awsome rambling, thank you. You can ramble some more, I’ll gladly listen

It's weird, corpos can kill dozens of people via chemical releases and no one cares but a source kills a couple people who badly mishandled it and we get a Simon video on it

To be blunt: You've stopped getting microwaved but your DNA is pulverized, and your cells will die. Except your neurons. Those don't die. Ever.

At that point, enjoy the latent stage as much as one can and get one’s affairs in order before the end. When the second stage begins, best to end it sooner than later in a painless way

The walking goat phase sounds scary

Like the poor firefighters at Chernobyl.

​@@prof.scheere6933it should. It's accurate.

the weird thing is they stopped using skull and crossbones as a symbol of poisonous food or medicines because kids would associate the symbol with pirates not poisonous things and eat the medicine thinking it was pirate food.

​@@ranger178ahaa no way

@@ranger178 I request further elaborations. Thank you in advance.

Jolly Roger 🏴‍☠️

things that were poisonous used to have skull and crossbones but they stopped using it as a symbol for poison because kids would see pirate movies like peter pan and think it was for pirates @@ultimaxkom8728

I feel Simon used the wrong word. It's activity was reduced by 92%. 1 Curie of Co60 will still have the same energy level of 100 Curies. 100 Curies will just kill you a lot faster.

Also it was 19 years old. They're meant to be replaced every 5. In a situation where the hospital wasn't skimping on replacing them, it would have been literally 4 times as bad. We'd probably be looking at hundreds dead or nearly dead.

​@Aryasvitkona maybe I'm being dumb, but wouldn't it be 8x as bad due to the 5 year halflife of cobalt?

​@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967I think it would actually be 16/32x as bad, since it's divided by two every 5 years

I had a brain tumor and they used cyberknife with Cobalt 60. The source was moved in a way where only the tumor got a major dose of radiation. Everything else didn’t get hit hard. Pretty ingenious how they do it.

Orphaned? What happened to his parents?

@@zwenkwiel816decaying as we speak 😞

And depending on how hot it is, it may not matter. You're dead before you can get away.

You be surprised at how little material you need to shield from ionizing radiation. Probably the only reason the junk yard owner lived to see the next month.

or had a gieger counter on them

x-rays? I don't think Cobalt 60 emits x-rays. It emits beta particles and gamma rays.

...adds to the horror of hospitals currently being bombed in one of the most populated places on earth. Very bad

@@poonoi1968 Not sure if these ones are actually a threat - Israel has pretty strict control over what can and can't get imported into Gaza... Hamas digs out water pipes to make rockets out of them - I imagine Israeli officials wouldn't be eager to see how long a cobalt-60 rod remains used strictly for medical purposes if allowed to enter the strip.

And this is relatively small container, but instead public was scared with the image of nuclear cask being stolen. You know, casually drive your jeep to NPP, avoid security with rifles and load that 100 ton cask onto it. Nuts

Though they'd need a way to safely remove the material and store it, which Sounds Like an increadible hussle even for experts.

@@kathi9026 Safely? What for? Terrorists have thousands of indoctrinated people willing to sacrifice their lives for their cause. They wouldn't be bothered with safety.

unfortunately, living things aren't equipped to detect radiation.

​@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 yeah it's weird because we are looking at particles smaller than atoms, so I don't think there's any nerve capable of processing that, even though there are fungi that uses radiation to grow

Humans 10,000 years ago: "Guys, if we chip down the flint just right, it cuts more efficiently!" Humans 80 years ago: "So it turns out if you shoot invisible shit at a lump of poisonous metal, it could end the world!"

@@sayori3939 Technically our eyes could be altered to see it as it is "just" another wavelength of light (as whole "visible light" terms just point to wavelengths our limited eyes can see), however considering how rare radiation danger was in past and even how it still is, developing something like that naturally is unlikely. For me radiation is scary, but not much considering how rare its sources are (thanks to our regulations and policies and how hard its to make), things like poisons, viruses, bacteria, asbestos etc. are much more common and some of them dont decay over time so will be as deadly in million years as they are now.

Oh we can sometimes... it's just at that point you've just been blasted with tens of siverts in a second and well. Your dead​@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967

I think the scariest part is that it's completely silent. When you do notice something is wrong, it's already too late.

those imaginary horrors probably had some basis in real life horror, like fear of the unknown.

Yup this happens a lot unfortunately 😢

So unfortunate for those thieves. Real bummer.

@@ivancorey7389And for the scrapyard workers, the neighbourhood around the scrapyard, and the kids who were playing in the car park.

​@@ivancorey7389It's not about the thieve's misfortune... It's about neglecting to protect hundreds & thousands of people who could be exposed to the stolen property. Refusing to pay disposal costs that will save lives.

@@ZijnShayatanica Absolutely. Not to mention, death by radiation poisoning is not a proportional punishment for theft. There's always some jackwagon in the comments who considers any shred of lawbreaking to be a forfeit of the right to live. I don't know how someone gets so calloused.

+1 to that, and adding: Well There's Your Problem as well as Kyle Hill's Half-Life Histories series.

@@apeacebone6499 "Bullocks!" "Sounds like we need to suit up again huh?" "Why is it always us?" I love the small British jokes in Plainly Difficult's drawn people :P .

I'd add the "Citation Needed" podcast, which is largely about reading a Wikipedia article and making jokes about it, but generally covers topics of major disasters that involve incredible cases of human stupidity (it turns out that's pretty much every single one). They actually covered the Goiania Incident, a similar occurrence in Brazil, where a radioactive source from a radiotherapy unit was stolen, and four people died of radiation poisoning.

@@Dutch3DMasterBalls

Somewhere along the line when I was in this topic, I found someone make the point that while a skull is associated with death to us and currently, people in an unforeseeable future time and culture may associate the human skull with life, health, or something else positive. It's a recognized problem for long term nuclear waste storage as we can't reliably say that what warns us will still be seen as hostile in 50,000 years.

@@BaronVonQuiply Nuclear waste is not cobalt 60 though and is only unsafe for 300 years. The longer something decays for the safer it is, an isotope that needs 50,000 years to decay is no more harmful that many places on earth that have a high background radiation like Guarapari, Brazil.

@@instanoodles You may want to double check some of that. Particularly look up high and low level waste.

Seems like a good idea to learn the language in the country you’re moving to with your entire family

I'm a first generation child of Polish immigrants on my mom's side so I understand, language barriers definitely pose a challenge and I think signs that people universally understand as "danger! Bad!" Regardless of the language you speak would definitely help in some degree, if not at least a good bit

They are called dirty bombs because they only spread Nuclear Fallout... without actually going nuclear.

I feel like I need a fully fleshed-out telling of this one, because that’s wild as hell if he really did that shit right there a public school lol. What kind of radioactive material was it & where in the shit did a school janitor manage to obtain it? At any rate that’s a remarkable Darwin Award win right there.

@@johnblood10 it was the 90's and he was cleaning while we were in science class and the teacher was telling us about minerals that are somewhat radioactive but as long as you don't touch it with your bare skin you are alright and it was in a closed case but the Janitor heard the teacher say that and mocked the teacher and open the case and held it in his hand nonchalantly. He didn't die fortunately but lost an arm in the process. As i grew up and think about it now how the hell was thoes minerals in a school with little to none supervision at times.

​@@Bu-AljooryEspecially around high school kids. I'm surprised it was the janitor that did that and not some high schooler trying to be cool or pull a dumb joke

Any material that radioactive would cause damage to you even without skin contact. Unless the container in question was solid lead the entire room would be dosed.

@@MyLibertyTVAlpha and beta sources can be stopped with relatively little shielding. A strong beta source might fit the story - however I’m a bit skeptical that such a dangerous thing would be kept at a school…

You might enjoy reading about the Goiânia accident. Similar situation, only with caesium chloride. The source contained a glow-in-the-dark salt with a deep blue hue. Those who opened it thought it's magical.

I knew about Mexico and Brazil. But Ireland? Gonna have to read up on this

One would think lead containers would be a warning sign. A reason also to embed the radiation symbol in everything.

Wasnt this the incident where they found a "funny blue glowing powder" (being Caesium) sharing it with friends, childrend and neighbours, putting it on their body just before dying or suffering horrible injuries and death?

​@zephiask1758 yes, that's the one that happened in Goiania, Brazil

There have been cases of radiation poisoning from abandoned radio-thermal power supplies, also. Mostly in former soviet union areas? Most people seem to be more fearful of radiation than is warranted, but these cases are defiantly a run for your life situation.

The exposure it took was more than what the control badge had by a significantly large amount. She by no means took that much from the sun.

Yeah, they don’t work like that. Lol

Hay bales will set off radiation monitors at border control, because they're loaded with gamma radiation! 😂

That doesn’t make sense. It would a huge headache to have false positives from the sun….when you work outdoors.

@@DrDeuteron They likely had very strict radiation limits in place. The nuclear power plants I work in issue OLSDs, (Optically Stimulated Luminescent Dosimetry), for exposure calculations and they are quite particular about what you do with them. They always reiterate one of the do nots of storing them is leaving it hung on your rear view mirror in your vehicle while not at work. Exposure to sunlight is an issue when it comes to these types of devices.

A similar incident in mexico is why every junkyard and trash heap in the US is suppose to have them.

The casing cause an immediate reaction. Had they seen the rod and held it they MOST definitely would have had immediate burns on their hands.

Oddly enough, I can't remember the one episode where it actually was Lupus.

House was a great programme. Loved every episode and watch re-runs whenever I can.

Probably so. The dad owned a junkyard and gave his son a plumb-bob not knowing it had been used in radioactive wells and was highly contaminated. The moment when House and one of the fellows scan the dresser with a geiger counter and it goes wild, House tells the fellow to leave immediately and call hazmat -- that was a terrifying moment.

The other big things? It's completely invisible, and there's absolutely nothing you can do. Being hit with a lethal dose of radiation has to be such a surreal experience, assuming you understand what's in store. You're dead. You know you're dead. As dead as if someone put a gun to your head. And yet you'll live for a few more weeks. And there is nothing you can do. No treatment you can receive. You just are dead.

I hear what you're saying. I think part of the issue is that something that's still very dangerous to humans may not necessarily be radioactive enough to accomplish said given task efficiently anymore. Once it's "spent enough" that it takes a significantly longer time held near medical equipment to sanitize it, for instance, they could have sanitized a lot more product in that space of time, or treated more cancer patients, if only they'd used a source that was newer and therefore emitting more per second (more emissions in a short space of time vs fewer emissions for a much longer timespan exposed. It gets exponentially less task-effective as time passes due to the half-life). So at a certain point it becomes a waiting game for enough half-lifes to pass for a thing we could replace and accomplish tasks more efficiently, to no longer be human-dangerous though. Humans are really squishy when it comes to Radiation. It doesn't take all that much to be a big problem for our bodies, that's not a good measure for how effective it would be in the execution of tasks radiation is effective for. I guess we could try repackaging it, but it would take more "pencils" of mostly-decayed radioactive matter to achieve an intended dose, and machines aren't really designed with the intention we'll pack them with many more active pencils to achieve an equivalent effect. There are spacers, but it’s still not what they're designed around. So in a way it seems like you're suggesting we find more uses for low doses of radiation. I could agree with that. Progress is good. In the meantime, whatever electricity is spent containing radiation is electricity worth its generation, because of the value of human lives. If we get to a point where solar etc is used to manage all unspent radiation, great. I am of course not an expert, just a nerd who watches a lot of stuff about radiation excursions and incidents, but I don't think I'm going to be that far off the truth regardless. Maybe we'll be lucky and get an expert weighing in in a reply someday :) I do agree in principle that it's important to be a good steward of radiation, and not generate more radioactive material than we have a use for. Happy new year

If only it worked like in fiction. e.g. Fallout series.

or develop super powers like in marvel universe, maybe you will turn into the hulk?

I thought it was "if out during the weird tri-moon, be prepared to run from pirates"

There's an entire video about the problem of finding a way to label radioactive stuff for the extreme far future .

@@johndododoe1411 people will do dumb stuff even in the future.. nothing is idiot proof and i mean it literately

Yeah that doesn't pass my sniff test either

Soviet, not Russian. Soviets we’re not Russians. The reactor workers and the reactor itself was in Soviet Ukraine. Although of course that’s not taught as much as ‘Russians are Soviets and nobody else, not even the Kazakhs or the Mongolians!’

Kyle & Plainly Difficult both produce amazing informative content that absolutely scares me, lmaoooo

I find him weird because he is so pro nuclear power despite these incidents

@@washingmachine4993 The way I think he sees it is that pretty much all of those incidents are preventable with proper management and education regarding radioactive material, and so by educating people, he is directly helping prevent future incidents. It's also really worth remembering that far, far more incidents happen because of other forms of power generation, mostly fossil fuel ones like coal than happen with nuclear material, so even though it seems scarier, it is just less dangerous anyway

Here’s the link to the Half-Life Histories playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PLNg1m3Od-GgNmXngCCJaJBqqm-7wQqGAW&si=86eNdwZAFzfzoWT0

Kyle is trash

If you think this is bad, look up the Union Carbide incident. They nearly killed an entire city with toxic chemicals.

They're trained and liscensed for source retrievals. If any of them got close to death they failed miserably at their jobs. I've been a part of two Ir-192 retrievals. Far less dangerous, but if you follow the procedures you share the dose and stop if you get close to dangerous amounts

Being Trained and licensed is one thing. Being Equipped is quite another

@@N7-WAR-HOUND Being untrained, unlicensed, unequipped, and unaware is much worse though. If you know you're dealing with highly radioactive elements you'll at least know to limit your exposure.

They could at least used some robot??