Instead of judging girls like Tana who are young and might party a lot and be hanging out with guys was too old for them. I wish instead ppl were more protective of those girls. Treat them like they're your little sister honestly. A lot of them need that

To me, this is not just about Tana and Cody but how our society does not take statutory rape seriously. The way we respond to this has the power to set a precedent.

It's inane that kind of effect D'Angelo has. He can very seriously change internet discourse, now that H3, D'Angelo, Cr1TiKaL, and Philip Defranco are all talking about it, it's pretty much over for CodyKo, he can't ignore it anymore

His lawyers are 100% involved

When I was in high school, I was jealous that my 15/16 year old friends were getting attention and hooking up with guys in their 20’s. we didn’t know any better. It’s the adult man’s responsibility to know better. I’m so sick of that argument. I’m sick of people victim blaming Tana just because she’s hooked up with other older guys, etc.

As a 24 year old, the thought of having sex with a 17 makes me feel physically ill. Hell, having sex with a 19 year old feels sick.

It's disgusting that anyone would ignore this because "it's Tana" Big up D'Angelo

I hate the hate Tana is getting, victims should never get hate for being assaulted. When you’re young you don’t think anything is wrong with dating or sleeping with adults but when you get older you realize how fucked up it is and would never think to do that with a CHILD.

I just want to point out that Adam McIntyre reported on this TWO WEEKS AGO! He’s always so ahead of the curve including with calling out Colleen Ballinger when nobody believed him.

People arguing the semantics of age of consent makes me feel soooo icky. A number in a law should not be the only thing stopping you from going after a child

The "17 is almost an adult" argument is so idiotic bc im turning 24 in a couple of weeks and I'm only JUST NOW confident that I can make rational decisions for myself and my wellbeing. 17 is still a teenager and super vulnerable to manipulation from older ppl like Cody

It's Kover.

You brain isnt fully developed until 25 too which is when most women realise how predatory men was towards you in your teenage years

I hate how people always involve the law when it comes to these things. Slavery was once legal. What matter is he was 25 and she was 17 and a fan of his. That's a power/maturity imbalance. That's bad.

“Tiny Meat Gang” Tana didn’t out him; he did that himself. 😂

Shoutout to gabby Hannah for *checks notes* doing the correct and responsible thing

I think NOW people are talking about it, is because D’Angelo called out the commentary community. Sure maybe some of these people didn’t know since Cody hid it so well, but I just can’t help think that now, a very respected commentary KZfaqr like D’Angelo who calls people out is actually calling out the people in the same space so NOW all of the commentary KZfaqrs are posting his link and speaking up about. Would they have done it if D’Angelo didn’t call out the community? Idk

I have to dispel some of the legal myths people spread to defend Cody, just since I'm a former prosecutor and current defense attorney. It is true that the age of consent is below 18 in more than half of the states (16 or 17) including here in North Carolina (while the age of consent in Florida where this allegedly happened is 18). But there is always an "age separation" set for criminality (so someone cannot be prosecuted, for example, for having sex with someone one week younger than them just because it was their birthday yesterday). So if someone is 4 years older it is criminal, or in some states >6 years older. In some places, there are degrees set by age separation so 3 or 4 years older could be 2nd degree rape and 5 or 6 years older would be 1st degree. Summary: what Cody was alleged to have done is a crime and would have been a crime in almost every state. What NOBODY is talking about is there is an 8-year reporting deadline in Florida for statutory rape (must be reported within 8 years of the victim's 18th birthday), which effectively acts as a statute of limitations. And while that time would have just passed on her recent June birthday, there are exceptions to that time limit (I don't know them all because I don't practice in Florida)...so it is likely Cody has gotten legal advice to stay silent. What srikes me in this case is the consistency of the victim's statements over the past years and also the corroboration of the witness (highlighted so well by D'Angelo Wallace in his video). While there is a presumption of innocence in court, we are not in court, and as a former fan of his, it disgusts me. Great work as always being ahead of the curve on an important issue, H3.

Y'all, Kelsey has known for years. When tana first mentioned she said she talked to Kelsey about it. She also allowed cody to invite his rapist friend to their wedding.

Remember: Cody is also (still) a Canadian citizen, and a felony could immediately send him back there.

I hate when people blame young girls for being into older guys… it’s literally normal for a teen, or even a child, to be attracted to an adult, a fully sexually developed human. What’s not normal is that a fully developed human feels attracted to a minor. That’s the weird part.

I think being around a girl Tanas age at the time really puts this into perspective. My daughter is 16..it would not be okay sleeping with a 24 year old. And when she turns 17..a 25 year old would be unacceptable. People can talk about the age of consent all they want and how it differs state to state. But when you truly see the mentality of a 17 year old vs a 25 year old..you can see how problematic this is. Cody can not hide forever. Really sucks because I've been a big fan for a lot of years. Kelsey isn't at fault but she is complicit. Unfortunately..that's the truth.

Ethan sticking up for Tana was the shred of hope I needed today. Thanks, seriously.

D'Angelo the kinda guy that shows up when we need him most.

Honestly so surprised that 18 is age of consent in Florida.

36:20 When your teacher is scolding the entire class and she says "I'm not talking about group C though, you guys have been good, the rest of you need to get it together"

i was one of cody and noel’s biggest fans, i’ve supported TMG for almost 50 months on their website, and even longer on patreon. i hadn’t heard about this till d’angelo wallace’s video and man. i’m fucking sick. canceled my sub to them. i’m very crushed

call me annoying but it pisses me off that people are more happy about penguinz0 talking about this rather than deangelo’s video that made him do it, us charlie fans have been waiting for this mf to talk about this for SO LONG. but he just never listened until recently

I disagree that Kelsey is totally innocent, she's friends with the rapist Colby and went to his fiancé's bachelorette party (and seems to know that people would not be cool with that as she did not share any content of her at it)

I'd be curious to see how many women in these comments can also say they were taken advantage of by an older man when they were under 18 🙋‍♀️ The world is not a safe place for young women.

As nice as it is that everybody’s rallying around Tana/denouncing Cody now, he’s still not gonna say anything. From a legal standpoint, he’s opening himself up to litigation. Plus, by staying silent and hoping that this all blows over once again, he’s protecting his cash flow aka sponsors, podcast money, etc. So sad. I wish it mattered to him that he’s losing the core of his integral audience, but keeping everyone who either doesn’t care or is a raging misogynist.

Cody had always given me lil b1tch energy

I hate people disgustingly justifying this situation saying shit like, "Well, in a year she would be legal," and "in my country/other states/EU/etc that is legal." I'm Australian, and here the age of consent is 16, but never in my life have I seen that as morally okay for someone with an age gap of that distance, as okay, regardless of the what the law says. We have all been 17 and 18 at one point, so in WHAT WORLD would a 25 year old be looking at someone that age as someone to sleep with. We all know that someone who is 17/18 is emotionally immature, and what is more unacceptable is the obvious power dynamic. Tana has stated she doesn't want to take legal action. This isn't a discussion about a legal issue, this is a moral issue. Wake the hell up.

i can’t believe people are blaming tana. objectively disgusting

But Tana is the one that's too controversial for Brittany Broski 🙄🙄

If 17 is practically 18 then 17 is also practically 16

People act like age of constant and statutory rape laws are dating/sex guides. The aren’t meant to establish the line at which it’s okay for an older person to sleep with a younger person, they establish the line at which not only isn’t it okay, it’s illegal. A 25+ year old who sleeps with a just turned 18 year old is creepy, if the person is below the age of consent in the state it happens it’s creepy and illegal. I can’t go to jail for it shouldn’t be a dating metric.

What ppl don't understand about the age of consent being 16 in some places is that it does NOT mean you can legally have sex with a 16 y/o no matter your age. For example, in Indiana, the age of consent is 16. In Indiana this means that a 16 y/o can legally have sex, but only if 4 years or less older than them. There are even states where the Romeo and Juliet law that allows the 4 year age difference does not exist and the age of consent is 16, meaning that a 16 y/o can have sex, but only with people 2 years or less older than them. This context is so vital! These Twitter creeps think that they can solicit sex with a 16 y/o as someone in their 30s if they just go to a different state. No matter where you are in the US, if you are 21 or over, you can not legally have sex with a 16 y/o! And Cody was 25. 9 years older than her, instead of 4. A massive difference.

A point I don't see anyone talking about, is that Tana likely isn't the only 17 year old he slept with, because if you're comfortable enough to be that brazen about it, you're definitely comfortable to do it multiple times, and who knows how much younger it could possibly be. Now, do I say that to imply he diddled kids back in the day? No, I can't see him being a straight up pedophile, but I can totally see him sleeping with a 16 year old or even potentially a 15 year old. Another thing too, we pretty much know it was at a party, so there's a pretty good chance Tana was drunk, I don't wanna hear 'Cody could've been drunk too' because Gabbie literally told him Tana was underage, there is no excuse, but if Tana was at all intoxicated that makes it another level of messed up. Severely disappointed in him after D'Angelo's video, knew about the Tana stuff before it, but didn't know he was openly friends with a rapist, and I'm disgusted.

The imallexx thing dropping was such a stroke of good luck for Cody lol. I’m glad it’s getting brought back up.

This is so crazy to me that this is coming up again. A year or so after Tana and Cody originally collabed, it was rumored that Tana and Cody had slept together at that point of the video. Then you never heard of it again, completely forgotten, swept under the rug. I can’t believe now that it’s blown to this proportion. I wish it would’ve gained traction when it happened/when the rumor was originally going around

No one’s talking about it because they know deep down they have probably done similar things. This sounds cynical, but having been a female my entire life and having been a high school girl that tried to act way older than I was, I can tell you this was a regular occurrence in my life. I remember going to a taking back Sunday concert (I know. I’m that old) at 16 with braces, and a few of the members asked if we wanted to party with them after. They all proceeded to try and hook up with my friends and I and they admitted to us they were 27 after we told them our age. I have countless stories like this. Don’t even get me started on my sorority years. The amount of roofies I was given or watched other girls stumble around after clearly being given some, is horrifying. I remember sitting back one night watching these frat guys and how they operate. They would huddle up and pinpoint the drunkest girl, then surround her, then one would drag her upstairs. This would continue until all the girls had left or were upstairs in their rooms. Sickening. Sadly though, this is so many other women’s experiences. Like these stories are by no means taboo. It’s the fact that men feel so comfortable being shitty when they think no one is watching. Well we are now. I truly believe a lot of men out there can’t judge Cody because they know deep down they have or would have done the same.

I’m sobbing laughing at the celebration to D’Angelo mentioning yall hahahaha the fireworks 👌👌❤️

Cody has activated the Streisand effect, there’s no going back. He thinks hiding behind his moderators, wife and kid will help… Frat soy thinks this will all go away, disappear???

i feel bad for d’angelo. the moment he brought up people not talking of it i thought of charlie. then immediately charlie jumps on it giving a bs excuse as to why he hadn’t and everyone cheered

I find it interesting that so many people try to say that Kelsey is blameless throughout all the allegations towards her husband, but the more and more information that comes out about Cody’s past the more it seems like she knew about all of it ???? And if for whatever reason she had no idea that Cody is friends with a alleged r*pst (Colby L. who was recently invited and attended their wedding) and that Cody slept with a minor (Tana) …. Idk it just feels highly unlikely that she can play the dumb card and claim she didn’t know any of this information. I’m not saying Kelsey needs to be completely held accountable for Cody’s actions, but it does speak volumes about her character that she would choose to not only marry but decide to have a child with someone like that. That being said, it’s absolutely disgusting the allegations that are coming forward. It’s time for Cody to speak up. No more hiding

His lawyers are definitely involved. And most probably advising him not to say anything at this moment

People are normalizing talking to minors, that's how this stuff like 17 is like 18 and then 16 is like 17 and so on, people shouldn't be normalizing this because this is how bad things start

I’m a therapist who works with a lot of adolescents and transition age young adults. If you legitimately cannot understand how different the maturity level is between 17 and 25, I’m concerned. She was a child who’d been extensively traumatized and idolized him. He took advantage of her. Period. That’s not even about the law it’s about him being gross at an age he really should have had the awareness to know better.

“Finally 25” by Tana Mongeau

the amount of ppl in hasan chat today trying to blame tana time and time again AS A PROGRESSIVE CHAT really really shocked me bc how would this ever be her fault??? to try to blame her because shes rich and was underage at a club is MADNESS like this doesn’t happen all the time in the media world this is so sad and terrible to watch i don’t care for tana much but that should NEVER matter in this situation

25:20 This is so correct. When I was 17-19, I dated/hooked up with a ton of older guys. I'm 25 now, and when I look back at it, I'm just like 'wtf....'. I'm not mad at myself, but I just can't believe that so many people in their late 20s to late 30s would be comfortable with being with a literal teenager because I certainly would never. I think I just started putting myself in there shoes once I got a few years older.

Looove D’Angelo, the way he words his videos is just soooo satisfying and he covers such important topics

I wish frenemies was still together for this story omfg

My dog was named Cody and he behaved better

If someone is not old enough to vote, they are not old enough to consent to anything. There’s a reason why 17 year olds can’t drink or vote or sign contracts, they are not an adult yet. And if a 25 year old has no problem with “seeing” a 17 year old it’s a real issue. I’m 21 and I can’t even fathom the idea of seeing a 17 year old as anything but a child. That is a kid, and Codyco is disgusting for not caring about that. Also the people defending him by saying that Tana, at 17, was an adult would definitely turn around and say that a 20+ year old college student who r-worded someone is “just a kid”.

as a current 28yo there’s no way or reason to excuse this behavior. he was old enough to be her TEACHER. i’ve followed and watched cody since vine. he knew what he was doing & likely justified it to himself at the time bc of how much more “mature” tana presented herself at the time. she also made videos online & was a public social figure. SHE WAS STILL 17. when EYE was 25, i was already looking at 18-21yos as worlds apart & neutral people. no sexual interest at all bc they seem SO much younger.

allegedly one of the subreddit mods is cameo co-founder who also was in the same frat... cody was the first influencer to do cameos when the site started out because his frat bro asked him to help out there are interviews from 2019 where the guy tells the story

I want Cody to rap in his apology video.

I got into an argument on Cody’s reddit about tana. The person was legitimately trying to say that bc she did coke with adults in hotel rooms at a young age, the Cody thing isn’t a big deal. I told them that just bc a child is being taken advantage of or abused by other adults doesn’t make it okay! Thats literally how predators think. They target kids who are already neglected or abused. Also, it was extremely triggering for me bc that type of talk is precisely the reason it took me a decade to tell another person about my experience. I was also 17, also irresponsible, I was drunk and high with adults…still does not make it right or okay. My situation isn’t exactly the same as hers but as a 17 yr old girl I 100% thought nobody would believe me or I would have to answer to why I was there in the first place (like it was my fault) it wasn’t even until I told my husband one night that I realized how bad it actually was. And I was around 25 at that time. I honestly have let myself believe that society is getting better and this whole thing reminded me that those parts of society never go away, they just go quiet at times…they’re always there. I genuinely thought this was becoming a world where girls like me would feel safe talking about their experiences but apparently only if those girls are perfect and have never made mistakes. It’s really upsetting and a great reminder that we as women can never stop fighting, if not for us then at least for the younger generations.

Agree with Dan. It's fair to talk about tanas scandals in the past. It gives context as to why people dismissed her claims/allegations. To ignore it and not mention it wouldn't make sense.

I feel so bad for Kelsey. Imagine being her and finding all these details out (if she didn’t know already). The rumors of him proposing a week after Tana’s video, him asking her is she’s good after the wave started, and now, letting hate comments flood her comment section months after having a baby. So she is probably not feeling the best emotionally.

Weird thing Kelsey did, back when she was a Teacher, she gave Emma chamberlain (who was 16 at the time) her first vape (on video). Which is really sad knowing Emma struggled with a vape addiction.

I honestly wouldn’t assume Kelsey is fully innocent either… what’s the chance she knew about LITERALLY NONE of this? Also, she had a say in who the best man was, too, and picking him is a reallyyyy bad look. I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t care about any of these allegations. Yes she SEEMS like such a sweet person, but ya know who else did too? Cody….

I might be the weird one, but a law shouldn't be telling YOU how to be a decent human being. We all have been 17, we remember the mental state we were in at the time, the vulnerability and naivety that we had. If you, as a 25 year old would never hang out as friends with 17 year old teens, why would you be getting in the pants of a teenage girl??? Common sense and basic decency is not something the legal system should reinforce by applying a punishment, those are values that you should have in the first place. Sorry for the rant...

I’ve seen a lot of people wondering why Tana is bringing this up NOW of all times. If I recall correctly, Tana is 25 or 26 now, and I imagine hitting the age that Cody was then has made her reflect more on just how young she was then and how messed up it was, even if she thought she was mature enough for it to not be a problem at the time. Similar to Demi’s “17-29” song.

What's funny is that Alex Silverstein looks like a big shot with his verified badge, but as we all know, that's just $8 per month and he's actually a nobody. 😆

HOW MANY MINORS HAS CODY ASSAULTED WHO ARENT FAMOUS????⚠️⚠️⚠️

Honestly I first heard about THE ALLEGATIONS from H3H3 Podcast!

he covered it up so well, I watch his videos daily, like literally, every day, and i had no idea until now😭💔💔 what the hell man

To be fair, Tana was doing biz scams as an adult, within the last few years. That's a valid criticism as to why people do not like her.

As a 23 year old i feel like even flirting with someone under 20 is wrong. At this age you mature so quickly you’re different each year. 17 is taking advantage of someone.. I was a huge fan of Cody Ko and this has me fucked up.

Look as someone who is from a country where our age of consent is 15. We put this there simply because teenagers in similar ages can continue dating and exploring their sexualities. If a couple ends up with larger age gaps it falls on the parents to monitor if its a healthy relationship because they' need to prioritise Their child. Its not because we approve of children and adults hooking up! Even as teenagers if we hear about large age gaps we get taken aback and investigate it from our peers perspective. "Are you okay? Have you talked to your parents? Do you need us to do something?" We hear them out, and listen. There are situations that are more clear and some that aren't. Some are clearly are not because they are being used and manipulated. And some are just buddig relationship or courtship that arent sexual yet and need to be monitored by parents.

Shout out to rachel oates who was fighting to get heard on this topic, dangelo used her video as a reference

Not the standing ovation 😂🎉

I love when D'Angelo said tana hasn't even put your name in a video title. Meanwhile, Cody's name is in D'Angelo's title lolol

Im curious why no one is speaking about JC Caylen tho? He would have been 22 at the time. And she said she hooked up with him and cody ko. I guess I just find it interesting that he's being ignored just cuz he's not as popular as Cody.

I haven’t seen many people mention this, but the ages are 17 and 25. And those can be the ages of a high school senior and their teacher. I had a student teacher who was 22 when I was 17. So it makes me think, how would people feel about it then; if Tana was a student and Cody was her teacher. Would the conversation be the same? Would people still say “oh it was Tana what did she say/do/wear?”. To me I think it’s very telling how many people claim that because Tana was a “party girl” it wasn’t that bad. But to me it can feel worse in this case. Why is a 25 year old hanging around younger “party girls”. I know many kids start their partying era around 17/18 especially in Canada. But idk it feels very gross to me to have a grown adult encourage a teenager to begin their party era of life at such a vulnerable age. Anyways just my 2 cents on this.

Olivia when you (and a lot of the public) say “he had sex with a 17 year old” you need to reconsider your wording. Call it what it is, it’s a crime, it’s statutory r word, not sex

The lack of punctuation in the notes app paywalled apology was also insulting.

Public outcry of Sketch being gay was louder than these stories...

People are bringing it up on Noel Miller's account and there audience are largely shared so they're bound to find out,I don't think silence is an option for him

I do not support Cody's crime but Ethan saying "I don't hold TanaCon against her because it was a long time ago" is a poor defense and just the wrong thing to say.

But if this came out a year a go surely kelsey was aware and still decided to marry and have a baby with him

Yall NEED to look up the video of Kelsey hand feeding a vape to an underage emma chamberlen

Feel like yall are hard on Charlie either for no reason or just to be contrarians. Charlie can say anything and you’ll have a problem with it. Like how Charlie gave context that Tana isn’t liked online you gave him shit for it but Dangelo literally opened up with the same exact thing.

At 16, I had multiple guys at 19-24 telling me I was mature and finding ways to put me in situations that weren’t legal. I also had a ton of other childhood trauma and literally forget these events and worse because so much has happened, when you break it down though it’s an awful feeling, so like Tana I usually minimize the impact to move forward or avoid it. I can’t believe there are so many that don’t understand this concept when the human experience is suffering and so many have trauma, ridiculous and apathetic.

This is really good coverage... but Ethan missed Charlie's point... he's saying that the people SAYING that... are wrong...

I feeel like he’s not gonna say anything so he doesn’t incriminate himself

Lmao that standing O when DeAngelo calls out H3 is SO GOOD proud of u

Extremly valid criticisms for critikal, he's basically watch mojo and keemstar

There’s a tik tok video showing an old emma chamberlain video where she is with Cody and Kelsey and they make her vape when she was 16. And they’re all hanging out like they’re not in their twenties so idk about Kelsey being all innocent….

The “17 is almost 18” argument is a slippery slope. Say society agrees and we lower the age of consent to 17… well then it becomes “16 is almost 17”. So forth and so on. Hard boundaries are incredibly important in law. Besides, as a 23 year old, even the thought of sleeping with someone under 21 makes my skin crawl.

Just noticed he hasn’t uploaded his normal Tuesday video 😬🫣

Zack always gets me screaming with the sound bite 🤣

allegedly Kelsey and Kody had Emma chamberlain when she was also very much underage on their podcast and was shown handing her a juul vape. This all seems shady af!!

I'm from Germany, so I'm not that deep into American KZfaq and their creators but I know the basic history and people. I started watching Cody Ko in 2022 maybe? and at first I was like "damn he's such a nice, humble and good human, he treats his wife as he should (from what I've seen in the videos) and he's just a good guy" . Then I remember watching a random video from his 2 Channels where he started talking about a past event where he did standup or smth in a hotel with another KZfaqr blablabla. The point of the story was that he drank really expensive alcohol and thought it was for free just because he performed hours before in the hotel... But not in the bar or smth in the hotel where they're drinking - it was separate he explained. And he got really mad about the fact, that he had to pay for the alcohol in the end... instead of getting it for free. Because he's Cody ko. He said, yeah they must have known me and they never said a price... But common...How entitled do you have to be to get paid THOUSANDS (that's what he said) for one evening and then rly think everyone knows him and everything is free for him just because of a job there... This really gave me the ick. Since this Video and his honest entitlement I always thought he must have a big ass ego. Just really suits this situation now.

The celebration for reporting the news so funny. You guys rule

When gabby Hannah is telling you you are fucking up, you should listen to

I may dislike Tana and many people do, but it doesn't matter when it comes to something like this which is also backed up by others, she was 17 and he was in his mid-20's, no excuse