"Please dont shoot my kids" EPIC MUSIC STARTS

Im surprised about the Orson Scott Card reference to various types of aliens, as the terms, not counting "ramen", are all swedish. "Utlänning" means foreigner , "Främling" means stranger, "Ramen" would mean "frame" in swedish so Im assuming this is a different thing. "Varelse" means creature or being, and "Djur" means animal. Where are these found in his book series and does he explain them and their meaning?

*leans into hsi chair, enjoying the audio.... **14:18** comes by* Gah I'm awake I'm awake!!!

No worries, tyvm for the video Isaac!

Hope they gave you some good drugs.

Can I ask you why he needed surgery? And where is his accent from?

@@victoriagonzalez5774rhotacism perhaps? Although do know that I don’t actually know

I'll admit that half the reason I'm subscribed is because of his unusual accent. It caught my attention when I stumbled across this channel while on a sci-fi worldbuilding kick.

Stop trying so hard to be ironic.

Lmao

​@@ASpaceOstrich to make peace with it all i had to tell myself that Isaac comes from the future and thats why he sounds like that. I bet in the future all of them do.

god bless you Isaac, as he said your voice is iconic and we can see/hear that you try your best to soud as good as you can, we apreaciate that and honestly as obvious as the surgical intervention seems now it is an amazing sacrifice youve done for our sake. I hope it delivers as much as you deliver us, with your intelligence and now unlocked(literally) tongue youll be the best. Many thanks, you have become nearly an institution on your own, thank you and hopefully, youll live long enough to get in on all the life extension tech you wish.

One day we'll achieve post-scarcity communism and all information will be free. Until then we must suffer under the capitalist yolk and the chains it places on the free exchange of knowledge.

Isaac should be ambassador representing the humans at the galactic council

Other Earthling: I'm late enough but fine, hop in. Toss on this robe. OE: We love the leader. Alien: oh so your leader is loved that's good. OE: Oh, yes! He'll help us free our minds. Alien: Sounds good to be open minded, is that why you're ok with me being here. OE: Yup. well kinda, you see we each had a quota to bring in, I mean I made it but I think the Leader wants as many as possible. Alien: Ah, yes. As many to be open minded. OE: here we are. Every One: We love the leader! LEADER: As we drink to free ourselves lettuce embrace each other in peace. Every One: Sips/Chug/Glup Later: Ugh. *THUD* Still later: (in a sealed room) Alien where am I and what happened. Normal Human: Hi, um, how long have you been on Earth? Alien: a few hours... I think how long have I been out? Normal Human: Only a few hours and you already joined a cult!?

ABSOLUTELY MY FRIEND ❣️❣️❣️

I worry more about how our cat overlords coexist with each other

​@@DeadInside-ew8qb they dont, and gopro videos of cats on walkabouts demonstrate this.

Also Warhammer 40k...or Halo... 😂

Also Stellaris. The one game that has genocide and slavery as genuine gameplay

@@therealspeedwagon1451As a xenophobic and authoritarian void-dweller main, this is my bread and butter in a literal sense.

That places a interesting path for interaction. Since we have no such limitation, some humans may at first exploit the false sense of security your crow fellows have when we start speaking. What eventually would give them the equally false impression that no humans is safe to be around or can be honest. Not ever. Because we are natural liars and unnatural traitors. Because some of us violated something that is that basic to their perception of reality. Therefore making obvious that we all CAN violate that basic moral principle (what, going in full circle, is correct. We all can talk and be violent at the same time). This sort of hiper-generalization is very common in fiction, both fantasy and scifi. Often using cannibalism (or, more recently racism) as the label that proves a given sort of alien to be "Evil" and totally beyond the possibility of peaceful interaction. However, neither cannibalism nor racism are a base as solid for hiper-generalization as the one you propose. Because both things are possible for humans (and in fact those who speak more loudly against "racism" in current days are wildly racist themselves. They just have elected black as supreme race instead of white, and in their books that does not count as racism). I suppose a very philosophical crow-person, strongly inclined to abstract thinking and Ethical contemplation (over moral contemplation) could understand why their taboo isn't "natural" to us. But even such a fellow would still "feel" we are monsters. Until he manage to overcome that physical aversion.

... they would build a voice activated gun

Same here!!!!!

Thanks Lucas!

That was loosely the idea originally, but then I switched over to doing extended editions for a while and KZfaq doens't let you replace them so it got shelved.. I've mostly switched back to doing bonus episodes on Nebula so I suspect I'll bring those over after a reasonable time, maybe a year, or bring over an expanded version.

probably not all. some are made nebula exclusive because even though they are great, they would hurt the channel by the youtube algorithm

@@isaacarthurSFIA sounds like a solid plan.

@@7lllll Yeah, I can think of a few that would be true of or even a couple it was true of. Paperclip Maximizer was my first exclusive, first exclsuive by anyone on Nebula for that matter, and did well when I brought it over, but 2 and 3 were Butterfly Effect and our cloning episode, me, myself, and I, and both, even 3 years later, have less total views than what an episode would get in Week 1 after release and still be considered a flop, yet have very high like ratios, they just didn't appeal to a wider audience :)

@@isaacarthurSFIA or didn't get the approval of the YT paperclip maximizer algorithm that manages vid suggestions to non-subscribers, yeah. KZfaq can be rough even tho we do appreciate the content. ("Thanks multiverse for nebula" spoken under breath to avoid the context warning bots attention). do be well soon, much to be doing's. B)

On the other hand, the folks at the pointy end of contact aren't likely to be the ones making the decisions that matter. Those will be made by folks who answer to the whims of domestic politics.

I have no idea what you’re trying to say 🤷‍♂️😏

It would really depend on experience of such aliens. Assuming they are far more advanced and the ones finding us, they might have experience meeting all sort of intelligent life before us. If that is the case, they would probably first study us without revealing themselves and categorize us a type, just like we do with animals. Their approach would be tailored by prior experience.

also, they might be explorers but for which purpose? If they identified our planet as a potential colonization site, and assuming that the speed of light is still a limit for them, they might arrive here ready to colonize our planet based on some probes they sent ten or twenty thousand years ago.. and surprise! find that in that time, a civilization has developed here on its own. That would be a very awkward encounter ... especially if they were on a one-way trip

Nothing says that they think like we do. I highly doubt it.

There's still the question of where those beings all are. If they've discovered some exotic technology that provides them with so much cheap, abundant, easily accessible energy that the very stars are no longer of use to them, then they are a powerful race indeed whose capabilities would be nearly boundless. This makes the Fermi Paradox that much worse. If such aliens exist they should be everywhere. The whole universe would be their playground.

That's a cool story, but merely positing the scenario doesn't actually "show" anything, any more than my own depiction of a civilization made of pizza shows that such a thing is possible.

Four*. There's always violence.

The 48:27 animation, with a couple of nonterrestrials raising a fine glass of highly-desirable Earthly (Terran) beer... I see you, Issac, I see you! This film will age extremely well :)

​@@yapflipthegrunt4687 amen. Diplomacy through other means.

​@@yapflipthegrunt4687 Well, thankfully or not, all of those American tax dollars usurped into covert programs over the years have the aspect of planetary protection covered fairly well, hopefully :)

I will

There's a difference between 'limited war' and 'total war.' Or 'regional war' and 'world war.' Sure, you still see some of the former of those pairs, but rather little of the latter. That more than satisfies 'modern conflicts are less frequent/destructive/limited than earlier times.' Nobody claimed there was no war.

1. The logistics of what you suggest are a lot more complicated then you think. To do that as you think would require huge jumps in data transfer and storage to keep up with the volume of data a constantly learning and reincarnating need AI would need. 2. Umm YES, they ARE saner and smaller in scale. Compared to the, as Sacred Cow Shipyards would call them, our "Not Quite World Wars" that engulfed huge swaths of multiple continents where millions died and entire cities were completely demolished, we are doing quiet well. While still brutal, we have become much more precise in our application of wanton murder. Also, it's hard to see dictatorial powers as a threat in the future when they've been a constant somewhere in the world since at least the 80's and very few of them last for any length of time. Autocracies tend to have a life expectancy that mirrors the autocrat...

T D S it's in the brain...

A Wind in the Door?

@@youdontgettoknow139 Book Two of Madeleine L'Engle's Time Quintet?. yes, I read it (🤔 gosh, two-three times, most recently) like fifteen years ago; wasn't consciously aware when I commented but 🎯, precisely. - My pleasure to make your e-cquaintance, good sir, err person; I'll leave a token of my appreciation (due to nexus non grata rumors circling KZfaq) in the following reply.. here's wishing you a wonderful day/night/week/whatever. ☺️

@@youdontgettoknow139 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9CDgrRzyOCdmJc.html

Yes honoured Ethereal, this post right here

That's what I'm thinking will happen. I think there's a good chance there are already aliens in the solar system, in the form of a Von Neumann probe that arrived here long ago. Whether it'll be a machine programmed to deal with us in one way or another, a true AI, a collection of uploaded intelligences in cold storage, or a machine set up to grow biological bodies for it's intelligences, I have no idea. But my money is them already being here, if they exist. I also think it's very likely we're the first on the scene too, and that we'll be the ones sending out the probes. Perhaps we're the aliens, sent by some long-ago civilization that detected a useful world in this system and sent a seed ship here to plant life and guide it's development to a civilization like where we came from.

which one is that, the tentacle faced guy?

@@isaacarthurSFIA I actually like tentacle faced guy, he looks so intensely interested in that sealed container.

@@Reddotzebra Yeah its a werid effect of working with them so much, i find myself imagining detailed stories about certain bits of stock footage, that's deifneitly one of them

@@isaacarthurSFIA yes, it's that one and the android/robots that are like a pulp sci-fi movie 😊

@@dfgdfg_ Yeah, I've mentally nicknamed him "Bert", with the internal mental joke that Ernie is the facehugger looking thing in some of the clips with or of that lab :)

I bet the entire substrate of reality is one big solid-state AI.

Probably a lot like in middle school

@@johnassal5838 nuh uh

There’s always one in every group

@@DeadInside-ew8qb true :)

I'm pessamistic about the continued existance of pesamistic people who don't bother looking up real data but get their entire world view from news companies literally owned by political parties and shit some politician tweeted. One day soon, there may not be anyone left who thinks everything sucks always because somone's got hooks in their brain for political power.

Well if the aliens contact us first they would be far more powerful than us so we would at least pretend to be far nicer to them.

I see examples of how we’ve interacted with each other as how we very likely will interact with aliens. In all likelihood aliens will be enslaved or massacred. Or at the very least, seen as filthy and not human by the common man.

​​​@@MrNote-lz7lhThe only big problem is how to NOT let them think we are just grovelling xenophobes worthy of a planet cracker at least. Imagine they saw a bunch of W4K/Stellaris/TBP "purge the xeno" comments and posted this right in front of the UN delegation asking like "Are you guys nuts?!"

Great episode though has some big plotholes too

Not quite how the Vex in Destiny work, but the Vex are a great example of a really weird intelligence similar to something like intelligent algae. They're tiny radiolaria that form patterns which can simulate the world around them. The Vex do not have concepts of things, they have simulations of them. They often seem like a hive mind but they aren't, its just that all Vex share the same pattern so they're all identical. Yet this does not manifest in a species that all do exactly the same thing. They divvy up tasks into frames and different Vex collectives do sometimes end up disagreeing, though the latter pretty much only occurs when something they cannot simulate shows up (magic).

You get to see sci-fi diplomacy in the Star Trek series.

If everyone's living in fully-automated luxury space communism, there's no real reason for polities to come to blows over... anything. When your society is already built on sharing all production to provide for the needs of all, it would be trivial to extend that generosity to alien polities. So conflicts over resources wouldn't exist, outside of purely bureaucratic squabbles. That just leaves ideological conflicts, which... wouldn't really exist if everyone's a communist with access to all the same scientific knowledge. At most you might see disagreements over unfalsifiable things, like the existence of God or life after death. But with everyone's material needs provided for, so much of the tribalist tension of the past would simply evaporate. The only way for space polities to end up coming into conflict would be if they weren't fully-automated communists. If there were elites in one of the polities, looking to protect or expand their personal wealth or power, then that polity would end up butting heads with any other polity it came into contact with. Because the elites would use their power to influence the polity's government to act in their interests, regardless of what the powerless masses wanted. The elitist polity might attack another, because the elites wanted access to the victim's resources (to sell for profit, to parcel out among their supporters, or to fuel further conquests). Or the elitist polity might attack another, because the elites were bigots and wanted the aliens to be destroyed. And/or because the elites had whipped the masses into a xenophobic frenzy (to distract them from all the problems the elites themselves were causing), and the government needed to follow through on that hatred or risk losing legitimacy. Or the elitist polity might attack another just to protect the interests of their own elites, either because alien elites wanted their stuff (or wanted them dead), or because space-communists wanted to reform their society. And that's just warfare. Space polities might try to influence each other in subtler ways. Like trying to win over alien hearts and minds, so that an alien polity's citizens develop divided loyalties. Or giving resources and support to fringe political groups in alien polities, to polarize and divide their internal politics. Or giving resources to a polity's enemies, to create additional threats that the polity needs to worry about. Or creating military, economic or ideological alliances, that can collectively pressure outside polities. But if all the aliens are living in the lap of robotic luxury, there is no reason for anyone to start throwing hands (or other dextrous gripping appendages).