Should we make a petition for an improved steel Kalita? 🤔 Sign up here 👇
@brentroman4 жыл бұрын
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@shawnsgear4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@igalk4743 жыл бұрын
what about comparing the fixed edition , with Kalita Wave Tsubame 185 Copper? kurasu.kyoto/products/kalita-tsubame-185-copper and kalita wave sagan 185?
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
@@igalk474 Maybe in the future but as I mentioned in the video, I'm taking a well-deserved break from Kalita videos :D
@meaningfullife99373 жыл бұрын
Yes, petition them! :P
@tokyomaj23 жыл бұрын
I have Kalita Wave 185 and so far I have no problem I don't need to drill holes for my Kalita 👍
@user-hr9zl3hv9l7 ай бұрын
As I just recently added a kalita for pour over in addition to my v60, I found this video as well as the one with the kalita recipe helpful to optimize the described issues. However, as the Flair dispersion screen is hardly to get within Europe and puck screens don’t go below 48.5mm max, I coincidentally came across a perfect alternative I wanted to share with the community. The Bialetti 1-2 cups stainless steel filter plate only costs around €4 and fits perfectly into the kalita. On top it’s very easy to get
@StarboardOar872 жыл бұрын
The stainless steel Kalita is my only pour over device. I never really understood why it took so long to drain: I thought I was doing everything right. Thanks for pointing out these issues. I gave up on it and use an aeropress, but now I might try this mod or give another version a try. Also, thanks to one of your other videos, I have a new K Max grinder. Great content!
@westwoodmanorfilms77793 жыл бұрын
You have confirmed what I have long suspected. I did a comparison of my ceramic and metal Kalita, found the same results and preceded with the hack straight away. Thank you!
@robertporter27464 жыл бұрын
I'm clumsy myself and would have been very tempted to buy the stainless steel version. But I'm glad you've hammered home the problems. I started my pour over journey with the ceramic V60 and have stuck with it. I've dropped and broken a couple of them. So last time I bought 2 at once. When, not if, I break these I'll check out the Wave. Might even go with the plastic version!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Kalita will put out a proper "updated" steel version before that day comes :) At the moment there aren't many good flat bottom options for us clumsy people, unfortunately.
@thediamondfield4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I didn't know that the drain times between the Kalita models were so different! Also, I've been curious of Törnqvist's mod, thanks for sharing what the mod actually is. Will try it on my 185.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Hi Johan, thanks for the kind words. It was also surprising to me! One should think that they have a QC department in Kalita's office, but it seems that isn't the case. The mod is definitely worth trying.
@BatPotatoes4 жыл бұрын
You delivered on that promise to fix the stainless Kalita!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Yup, now we just need to get the executives in Japan to fix this issue for good :D
@kaheldan3 жыл бұрын
Blue Bottle dripper is still my go to, no mods necessary
@12vers3 жыл бұрын
I used a pre-drill metal punch(slightly larger than the hole) and push the holes out just like the glass dripper. It is now flowing just like the glass dripper.
@gww-y3y Жыл бұрын
After drilling the 3 holes a bit larger it flows so much better remember to grind or file the rough edges to make smooth the holes opposite of drilling
@CaveyMoth Жыл бұрын
I recommend using a titanium stepped drill bit. I widened my Hario Buono's center steam vent hole to fit a thermometer inside, and the bit made the job super easy and flawless, like it came that way from the factory.
@LilyWillow22 Жыл бұрын
What size drill bit?
@thrift243 жыл бұрын
Kalita wave is the best tools of manual brewing coffee☕
@cbgbcb2 жыл бұрын
I have what I think is a simple solution to the stalling issue.........try double filter...it seems to give the bottom of the filter a little more support above the holes.
@DJaquithFL3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights and information it's greatly appreciated. 👍😎 My reasoning for considering the stainless steel version, I haven't purchased anything yet, is if it gets dropped on the floor by mistake you're not left with something that ends up in a trash or worst cutting someone. I'm one of those guys that drilling is no big deal, but I don't understand why the manufacturer has such a different flow rate with these it seems pretty obvious and doesn't correct it if needed? I'm just now starting to consider and research pour overs. Again thank you.
@coffeewithcarl17794 жыл бұрын
They should come like that in the box!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@shawnsgear4 жыл бұрын
The Coffee Chronicler would you still use The Flair dispersion screen after drilling bigger holes?
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnsgear Don't have a conclusive answer yet. My brews have been quite solid and consistent without the screen. I will say that both mods are efficient, however they work on different issues. So you can do the one that's easier/cheaper for you at first and then decide if it makes sense to proceed to the next step.
@shawnsgear4 жыл бұрын
The Coffee Chronicler thank you!
@redderpom4 жыл бұрын
I would love to find an original version of the SS Kalita. I wonder if they ever pop up on eBay.
@JayPFrancis3 жыл бұрын
I have a gut feeling that a standard hole widening reamer, hand held would work too.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Never tried that tool, but I think that would work as well 👍
@B.A.Bassangler2 жыл бұрын
Place thin sheet metal on a hardwood (sacrificial) block to drill a cleaner hole. Yes sharper bit helps, but also need high sppd and don't push hard. Acone shaped grinder or appropriately shaped file can clean up the backside if needed,
@Jbaggy83 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful, I have been having tons of issues with my draw downs! Would you do the hole resizing and the dispersion plate or just one or the other?
@jm0000018978 ай бұрын
This video saved my coffee. New to pour over drippers, I thought the Kalita was perfect for me, but the different problems with it have been giving me over extracted brews. That, and I was learning to use my new Encore grinder. I'll be drilling my stainless Kalita and also my copper Kalita. Did you use a 4 mm drill bit? Maybe I'll try a 3 mm.
@kayiversen5653 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea! I have not ordered one yet, but wondered if those minuscule holes might not benefit from a quiz zap of the drill. 'Cause after all, you ARE using a paper filter too. But, question: Do you think that drilling can possibly compromise the safety of the stainless steel (the non-toxicity of which is the main reason I like this product, versus plastic, aluminum, plutonium, etc)?
@mindybaum93104 ай бұрын
Yes please change the dripper
@cyclopsamurai3 жыл бұрын
Does that dispersion screen fit the Wave 155 stainless as well?
@daget347 ай бұрын
What are the dimensions of the flair dispersion screen?
@daviddyer67512 жыл бұрын
I definitely vote for Kalita resuming production of their original stainless model. It's actually a little hard to believe that Kaslita has let this stand! Such a huge difference, and such a bad one! I've been using a December Dripper, with its holes that can be opened enough to give a flow rate that's decent. I don't see the December Dripper online anymore. Has it stopped being made? I like to close the holes for the bloom, then open them before starting the rest of the pouring..
@nindythelittlebarista4 жыл бұрын
very useful tip for kalita!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nindy!
@hankrickett70953 жыл бұрын
I have used the glass one for a few years and it has less definition than the V 60 but is still not bad.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
The glass one is quite good! You should be able to make some clear cups with it if you follow my Kalita recipe in another video :)
@xPorsum2 жыл бұрын
If the issue is the filter sticking to the bottom of the wave and preventing water from dripping out at a faster rate, could this problem similarly be solved by say, breaking some wooden chopsticks and placing them into the bottom of the kalita wave so that doesn't happen?
@LilyWillow22 Жыл бұрын
My kalita wave dripper is 12 years old. Never stalls. Maybe they changed?
@billpiotter81904 жыл бұрын
How about a new mod? Try inserting raised ridges near the holes. Maybe use tooth picks or pieces of skewer sticks or stir sticks . . .
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
I like mods and hacks to be replicable at home, so for that reason I have focused on the one with the Flair dispersion screen and this drill one here. I think small sticks might be unpredictable. And of course could have minty or woody flavors :)
@tonymac53163 жыл бұрын
Why not grind coarser or when you still run into the same issue?
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's unrelated to grind size
@blackjak88 Жыл бұрын
It’s could the same if i would use the screen drainer of the moka? Tnxx
@harrisonp71183 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner who recently got a SS Kalita 185 to start my pour-over journey. I noticed the clogging issue almost immediately. My question is: can you get good pour-over out of the SS Kalita 185 with the dispersion screen fix, or should I just buy a ceramic model, or a V60?
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
With the the drill fix or the dispersion screen, you can get good coffee. The flow rate becomes a lot more predictable. But if money is no concern, then I'd probably get the ceramic one.
@Abrikosmanden4 жыл бұрын
I have the "welded ribs" version, and it's not significantly better. It's also very prone to clogging. As said before; Blue Bottle Flat Bottom dripper FTW!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
The BB dripper just arrived! It's a beauty. So far it seems very consistent in its drawdown. A shame with the welded version. Surprised to hear that it's not much better.
@Abrikosmanden4 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler Sweet! How did you get hold of one? I had to have an american member of a coffee group on Facebook send me one, as they do not ship outside of the US.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
@@Abrikosmanden Yeah, I also had to find a creative solution :)
@-----REDACTED-----4 жыл бұрын
Dang, I would have probably tried to drive out those spacing ribs on the ground to gain a few Millimeters in height...(and likely failed at that😂). Also I think it’s worth the effort to try to file those holes clean as that should reduce possible surfaces for gunk to gather.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Good point! I need to channel my inner handy man and sand them down :)
@merrickkingston78723 жыл бұрын
Hej Asser, To confirm... did you use a 4mm drill bit? If not, what size did you use? Takker :)
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 4mm should be about right. I used a nail :)
@user-rz2nm3lt2b3 жыл бұрын
Will it be even better if you make it 6-holed?
@stnvs4 жыл бұрын
The mod you do can increase the maximum flow rate of the dripper, but it can't fix the consistent problem of this dripper. The consistency of a dripper is related to the effective area of filter. The larger the effective area is, the less the possibility of clogging is. When paper filter sticks to the dripper, there is no room for water passing through. That's why we need ribs in drippers to create some passages of water. A good rib design example is blue bottle dripper. Even there is only one small hole at the bottom of blue bottle dripper, it's really hard to clog this dripper. Because there are so many ribs to support the filter, that means there are larger effective filter area and can tolerate more fines without clogging. So the problem of steel kalita is not just shallow ribs, but also short ribs. Compared to ceramics kalita, the steel one gets shorter ribs, the outer part of filter is more easy to stick to the bottom of the dripper. The effective filter area of steel kalita is less than ceramics one, that means less consistency of brewing and higher clogging possibility. imo, the ribs pattern providing full-range filter support like blue bottle dripper is better.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better! I just started experimenting with the BB dripper and it seems extremely consistent in spite of only having one hole.
@mannshambles700611 ай бұрын
Curious. Never had any of these problems. Works great. Flow rate fine. This system is known to be slower when compared to other pour over systems. Clogging is most likely caused by too fine of a grind. If all these things are an issue I would suggest using a different product.
@adrianlie943 жыл бұрын
The simplest solution for faster flow rate is to buy a v60, if you really love wave filter, buy april dripper or use 155 filter on 02 v60.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
From what I have heard the April dripper also has a rather slow flow rate. I think Blue Bottle and Espro are among the fastes right now.
@educatebo3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a dispersion filter from stainless wire mesh. The goal is to keep the paper filter from clogging the Kalita drain holes AND it should hold it's flat shape. It looks like #10 or # 20 mesh should work. What mesh do you recommend. Buying an espresso dispersion filter is rediculously expensive.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the mesh solution. But the dispersion screen is only $12, fits perfectly without any cutting and will last for a lifetime, so I wouldn't say it's ridiculous when compared to coffee gadgets in general.
@LudwigClemens Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, I saw a video from Scott Rao where he showed he was using a mesh screen in the steel Kalita, too, to reduce clogging.
@misalographicdesign2 жыл бұрын
The link you have to the dispersion screen goes to the entire espresso machine part (Second Shot Plus - Flow Control Portafilter) and is $73.00. Any idea where to get just the dispersion screen?
@coffeechronicler2 жыл бұрын
The link is actually the correct one, but for some reason Flair's website is redirecting to that page. You can just copy/paste this in your browser: flairespresso.com/product/pro-dispersion-screen/
@bl8sk82 жыл бұрын
Question: does the dispersion screen sits perfectly level ? or can it also sit unenvely due to the ridges.
@coffeechronicler2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's level. Haven't noticed it being uneven
@bl8sk82 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler cool, might try the trick soon 👍🏻
@Julumon.3 жыл бұрын
What Grinder are you using? Kalita dont like many fines do to his nature of the smal holes. I dont have a problem with my 155 and i dont get the problem with the paper creating a seal ? never happend to me ones.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
I have been using it with many good grinders. Wilfa Uniform, Jx, Helor 101, etc. The issue is more pronounced with Kalita 185 so maybe that's why you haven't experienced it.
@westwoodmanorfilms77793 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler What are your thoughts on the new Fellow Ode Grinder? Just discovered and enjoying your channel by the way.
@doxman133 жыл бұрын
have you tried April Brewer ? I think it's a perfect version of Kalita wave. I havn't tried it myself, Its quite expensive for dripper and not easy to find.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it yet. I have heard that it acts a bit weird sometimes.
@doxman133 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler how about kalita paper on origami dripper? will that solve the flow rate issue?
@ElecBrane3 жыл бұрын
If you have an Aeropress funnel, just put a Kalita filter inside
@serginaru3 жыл бұрын
Is this trollling?
@687Kalita3 жыл бұрын
I have had better success maintaining flowrate by using a cloth filter.
@scootervalentine3 жыл бұрын
Does that dispersion screen fit the Wave 155 stainless as well?
@cyclopsamurai3 жыл бұрын
I just re-asked this question... Did you ever determine this? Thanks!