College Degrees With The HIGHEST Dropout Rates!

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Shane Hummus

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Which college degrees have the highest dropout rates? That is going to be the topic of today’s video. College dropout rates are a topic that aren’t discussed enough in my opinion as it’s a great indicator that something is wrong with either the major itself, or the university that you’re getting the degree from.
So what percent of people drop out of university? About 40%, probably much higher than you expected. Now some of them dropout because they wanted to switch universities or other miscellaneous random life reasons that have nothing to do with the school or the degree. But a significant amount of them end up quitting because they’re taking one of the hardest college degrees and they’re stressed, or because the expectation that they had in their head of what the major was going to be like was totally different than the reality, or because they realize (after spending a lot of money on college tuition usually) that the degree isn’t going to lead them to getting a job in that field, and they’re essentially getting paid to learn things they could study for free online (No seriously, you can take the same classes from the best universities in the world online for free with the same lectures, textbooks, and tests, you just don’t get the degree at the end.)
So how many people drop out of college every year? Over a million. And one thing that can be really tough about dropping out is if you don’t finish your college degree, unfortunately, you still have to pay the student loans you took out.
And what degree has the highest dropout rate? Well, you’ll have to watch the video to see, but go ahead and guess below!
Enjoy :)
~Shane
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Sources and further readings for jobs and college degrees:
bls.gov(bureau of labor statistics)
nces.ed.gov(national center for educational statistics)
payscale(provides information on jobs and degrees)

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@nathanfisher4452
@nathanfisher4452 Жыл бұрын
Quick comment on career choice. I was a welder, went to college for business/software, ended up being an entrepreneur for 20 years. Then went into STEM for 6, now I work on process water for life science. Point is this. Interest changes, life changes, you meet people, opportunities arise. His advice is right on this however, shadow people and get an idea. But the truth is, change is inevitable, growth is optional. And to all the 20 something’s out there, enjoy the journey guys, it’s super fun. Don’t sweat it, your degree is the first step on a really long staircase; as you rise the view gets better.
@tracy_cakkes
@tracy_cakkes Жыл бұрын
This was so well said. Thanks. 22 year old here and I think I’ve been overthinking what to study
@nathanfisher4452
@nathanfisher4452 Жыл бұрын
@@tracy_cakkes I have a son studying to be a mechanical engineer, it’s very hard, and I watch him struggle. But when it’s over, and the demands are met, then more choices and adventure begin. Don’t worry, and I wish you the best in your endeavors. Just always, always, always, do the best you can, and your going to be ok.
@donutoffendme_1119
@donutoffendme_1119 Жыл бұрын
hey man, freshman here who’s been overthinking getting into the exact same degree as well (business/software). It’s been driving me nuts. Thanks I really needed this.
@nilufaliza6749
@nilufaliza6749 Жыл бұрын
There is no great profession in this world, only a great mind.
@gabegutierrez21
@gabegutierrez21 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@tsanderson4154
@tsanderson4154 Жыл бұрын
In my aerospace engineering major my class started with 110 people. I'm in my senior year and we have about 40 left
@brybry865
@brybry865 4 ай бұрын
Sheesh
@BlessingsfromBridget
@BlessingsfromBridget Жыл бұрын
I’m 36 and just starting my first semester in computer science. I have a bachelor’s degree already. It was in speech pathology. A master’s degree is needed to work in it. I got a 4.0 in all my master’s classes but I failed my internship, so I didn’t get my degree. I worked several poverty level jobs after grad school. The stress of poverty led to me becoming disabled. But because I am disabled, I was able to get all my student loans forgiven (I had 105K in loans) and I got a full scholarship to go back to school for a second degree. I chose to go for computer science. It is very hard but I love it.
@takuyamatsuda7214
@takuyamatsuda7214 Жыл бұрын
How do you fail an internship Edit: not to mock you, more curious about what the requirements were in the internship that allowed you to pass or fail
@ForTheOmnissiah
@ForTheOmnissiah Жыл бұрын
Fight the good fight and get that degree. CS is hard but very rewarding. CS will make you think in a way you haven't ever thought before. Go for it and work hard! All the best.
@ForTheOmnissiah
@ForTheOmnissiah Жыл бұрын
I just got my degree in Computer Science, and what I will say, is the dropout rate I believe is a combination of people who see it as good money, people who know a bit about programming and want to prove it with a degree, and a combination of the two. There are more factors, but those are the major ones. I went into CS because I already had been programming some things and thought I was pretty good at it. I was mildly decent at best, looking back, and considering no formal training. I wasn't great like I thought I was. Computer Science is more than just being a code monkey, and that is a big pitfall people fall into if they know how to code and want to do it professionally. Being a computer scientist isn't writing code, it's being a problem solver that can break down ANY problem into fundamental parts, construct a solution for these parts of the problem, and in the end, find a solution for the problem as a whole. It is very complicated and requires intense critical thinking. I had to take courses I didn't even know what they meant going it. Formal Languages in particular is VERY complicated and demands intense study, critical thinking, and seriously turning your gears to make sense of it all. TL:DR - Computer Science =/= code monkey. Computer Scientists are some of the most skilled problem solvers on the planet, and THAT is what you are earning. Programming is just a tool, that's it. Computer Science is FAR beyond writing some code to make a computer do stuff. Anyone could do that.
@wolfworks7339
@wolfworks7339 11 ай бұрын
I agree with that. I'd be willing to bet that most of the dropouts take place in the second year too, once people get past the basic programming classes and have to start learning how to be software engineers instead of just coders.
@invisisolation
@invisisolation Ай бұрын
Figured. Realized that this is the kind of mindset I needed long ago, and I'll be taking four years of CS very soon. Still learning a language with moderate success but I find myself to be pretty good at breaking down problems to solve them.
@theedwardstewart
@theedwardstewart Жыл бұрын
For Agriculture degrees, I think it may have a higher dropout rate because many of the people pursuing those degrees go to work at cannabis growing operations rather than finish their degrees.
@nooneinparticular3816
@nooneinparticular3816 Жыл бұрын
Unconventional pharmaceutical start-up
@ShaneHummus
@ShaneHummus Жыл бұрын
Great point, could be!
@sachinjha6333
@sachinjha6333 Жыл бұрын
Like what walter white done , he was a chemistry professor as we know
@scholarlyanalyst7700
@scholarlyanalyst7700 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaneHummus What sounds harder to your "ears"? 1. Masters Degree in Economics or 2. Masters Degree in Statistics.
@c0r5e
@c0r5e 8 ай бұрын
@@sachinjha6333but he did graduate tho
@_AMD24
@_AMD24 Жыл бұрын
Shane you should also make a vid on college degrees with the lowest dropout rate.
@gageT.
@gageT. Жыл бұрын
I started college as a computer science major. My first semester, I took an intro to programming course, the professor goes “If you don’t know how to program pretty well you aren’t going to pass this class.” By the end of the semester there were four of us in the class still and I changed my major. (The class was also only a one hour class once a week)
@robertsworld5057
@robertsworld5057 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so you had to know how to program prior to entering the class?
@gageT.
@gageT. Жыл бұрын
@@robertsworld5057 Yes. An introduction to programming course required prior programming knowledge. I don’t get it either.
@takuyamatsuda7214
@takuyamatsuda7214 Жыл бұрын
@@gageT. some professors love to be hard asses for the sake of it. Seems to feed their ego
@Megrim3
@Megrim3 Жыл бұрын
I teach Comp Sci, I knew what #1 was before I started the video 😂
@Dan-os1rg
@Dan-os1rg Жыл бұрын
yeah its absurdly boring
@avy1
@avy1 Жыл бұрын
@@Dan-os1rg ?!
@laurahill4566
@laurahill4566 Жыл бұрын
I had to drop out because I worked 50+ hours a week and just couldn't handle school and work at the same time. I had bills to pay, so unfortunately I had to quit school. Now I have a mortgage and daycare bill so it seems impossible to graduate with my bachelors anytime soon. For now I'm taking 2 online classes per semester. I'll get there one day.
@UnboxTheSocks
@UnboxTheSocks Жыл бұрын
I'm a computer science major currently and it makes a lot of sense that it is #1 on the list. The amount of students that are in the first few cs classes is a lot and there is much fewer students as you get to the higher up classes. Also, at the university I go to there are a few classes that have gained a notoriety for being extremely hard so I imagine a lot of people switch degrees at the early stages and also drop out when they get to those harder to pass classes.
@naughti_penguin2340
@naughti_penguin2340 Жыл бұрын
i believe they make intro cs classes artificially harder due to the sheer volume of students entering the degree just for money.
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
As a cs graduate i always felt really good about myself whenever i would catch up with people and find out they had to get an IT degree instead. Also watching class size get smaller and smaller in higher math or cryptography classes as the semester went on. Well worth the struggle imo. My degree only got me in the door where i work though. They only cared about what i actually did at my old job and internship.
@Vuden13
@Vuden13 Жыл бұрын
Cs is not hard lil bro
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
@@Vuden13 lol you're objectively wrong. It's about on the level with most upper level stem bachelor degrees and has significant overlap with EE. Ofcourse it might still be easy for you since you're infact, the smartest man who ever lived and I might tell my grandchildren that you graced me with your presence some day.
@Vuden13
@Vuden13 Жыл бұрын
@@kylesizemore2751 🤣
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@ShaneHummus 2 ай бұрын
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@TheRiverNyle
@TheRiverNyle Жыл бұрын
I’m majoring in CS and doing a minor in Math. I, like everyone else, had the expectation that CS is mostly applied, but I was extremely wrong. From my entire first year in CS, I can strongly say that Computer Science does not equal Computer Programming. Something I like to say is: Programming is a tool in Computer Science like Math is a tool in Physics. What CS truly is is (in a nutshell) is Mathematical Theory of Computation (which is made up of countless sub-subjects that gradually increase in intensity amongst the 4 years in Uni). Unless you know for a fact that you have a strong interest in Algorithms, Discrete Math, AI… I would strongly suggest you don’t go for this path and opt for other alternatives
@h3nry_t122
@h3nry_t122 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion maths is the coolest part of computer science.
@TheRiverNyle
@TheRiverNyle Жыл бұрын
@@h3nry_t122 Same here man, which is why I’m still in it. I was just speaking for the majority who think otherwise
@bahenbihen
@bahenbihen Жыл бұрын
Very well said. I'm interested in coding and it would be a nice part-time source of income, but I don't see myself studying all of this, especially now that I'm working already.
@TheRiverNyle
@TheRiverNyle Жыл бұрын
@@bahenbihen Thank you! That’s not an issue, if you have interest in programming, but don’t see yourself studying these courses or have time to study all of these courses, then you can always opt for the alternatives, i.e, coding bootcamp or self-teaching 👍🏼
@JV3Player
@JV3Player Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this is what computer science encompasses in a nutshell, but now I hear it from the horses mouth, thank you.
@sherlan1886
@sherlan1886 Жыл бұрын
My 2 cents: I pursued an Associate degree in architecture and dropped out. All the reasons listed here are the very reasons why I personally didn’t continue. You are spot on there.
@kinhinder2992
@kinhinder2992 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure the reason why bio has such a high dropout rate is because they realize premed is no longer a viable option for them
@willnill7946
@willnill7946 Жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@shaniatubana1113
@shaniatubana1113 Жыл бұрын
@@willnill7946 could be a number of reasons, Difficulty is for sure the dominant reason though. people may only major in biological sciences because it lines up perfectly with the pre med classes but they don’t actually enjoy the major so their GPA is too low. Another reason can be people realizing that they don’t want to go to med school anymore.
@mgminthantaung1363
@mgminthantaung1363 Жыл бұрын
That's video really surprised for me, bro. Good one 🌟❤️
@christianbolt5761
@christianbolt5761 Жыл бұрын
I expected computer science to be high as many attempt it given the job prospects, and discover it is not for them, same goes for engineering. These statistics must be formally declared majors, because many enter college thinking their going to be an engineer, than take a few classes in these areas and choose another major to declare. In physics we had around 20+ students coming in saying they were going to major in it, but we graduated 5 per year.
@ryanbrownley
@ryanbrownley Жыл бұрын
I studied a business administration degree, currently busy with a post grad. I am working and studying simultaneously. The subject matter isn't difficult. It helped me get a corporate job as a senior administrator at an investment firm. Anyone wanting to do a business related degree must not expect to get management job soon, I would recommend choosing a major that is in demand. So marketing, management information systems, accounting or finance.
@kira-lm6yy
@kira-lm6yy Жыл бұрын
out of the degree list you mentioned, which do you think are the most useful?
@darkmankind
@darkmankind 8 ай бұрын
I am four courses away from receiving my MBA in Business Administration with a concentration in Operational Management with a Six Sigma Greenbelt Certification. You are correct; I have had entrepreneurship classes, but the focus was on corporate matters. You are also correct concerning the monotony. I chose this course during my Bachelor's. I was in my junior year when COVID-19 hit, and I saw how difficult it was for people to get their stuff. So, why not help out? I found that if you have a direction or purpose, having that in mind as you complete each milestone makes the journey more bearable.
@BlackMusicRecordProd
@BlackMusicRecordProd Жыл бұрын
Cooool nice video, I love all your content and it help me a lot
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
At #10, I’ve actually argued that biology is one of the worst majors one can go into. The job prospects are fairly terrible, often requiring more education to get in to what amounts to an entry level job. And unlike other fields like this (example: education), this one is actually hard. So you’re doing all the work of a hard science major with none of the career payoff. Bad combo. I’m just surprised the dropout rate isn’t higher.
@garrettsterling6724
@garrettsterling6724 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more 👏
@DSS-jj2cw
@DSS-jj2cw Жыл бұрын
I realize my experience is a bit dated having graduated with an agriculture degree in the 90s but agriculture is not a growing field and there were more candidates than positions. The jobs often went to those who knew someone .
@DSS-jj2cw
@DSS-jj2cw Жыл бұрын
@@shyjy6241usually. It is . I was competing with more candidates than jobs and there was no incentive to provide decent pay or treat you well when there are two dozen applicants they can replace you with .
@lukehall3486
@lukehall3486 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see you do pre med AND go to the Hospital twice a week as part of the curriculum. Nursing is way more difficult than any generic Bio pre med degree, coming from some one that was once pre med. Nursing is difficult for more reasons than just the content. 1. Either get an 80 average or fail the class 2. Go to the hospital for 8-12 hours twice a week 3. Subjective questioning on exams I could go on and on. If you’re talking about a respected and renowned BSN degree, expect the difficultly to be high for more than one reason.
@lrgdaman8698
@lrgdaman8698 Жыл бұрын
Yes, not only do you not have to know the ins and outs of pathophysiology, but you also have to be able to apply it to a subjective situation on a test. There are other classes where its the same story, like pharmacology.
@BlessingsfromBridget
@BlessingsfromBridget Жыл бұрын
I am a first semester computer science student and I know a few people in my classes who I think won’t make it. I just hope I’m not one of them. CS is very hard but I do love it
@frordondanksey1822
@frordondanksey1822 Жыл бұрын
1:48 second year of bio, and there is A LOT to memorize.
@Elkompamando
@Elkompamando Жыл бұрын
Do a top 10 difficult engineering degrees💪
@danny.golcman6846
@danny.golcman6846 Жыл бұрын
About the computer sci degree tho, if you wanna work at faang, alot of the software dev jobs require a comp sci degree. Maybe not googlr but from what i have seen the others do like meta.
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
An engineering degree or specialized ITSEC are also sufficient. If your work speaks for itself you can eek on by but a cs degree definitely greases the wheels.
@gcruz1388
@gcruz1388 Жыл бұрын
Hi Shane what are your thoughts on an MPA with a specialization in public policy? Thanks
@dagduesund5175
@dagduesund5175 5 ай бұрын
I think the dropout rate for Business is high for a couple additional reasons. First, it seems to be a major that if you don't know what major you want to do you default to a business major because it is useful. So, while not the most difficult major, there are a lot of math classes, statistics classes as well as classes such as econ where you are using applied math and a lot of reports and presentations that need to be done. So it ends up being a bit more difficult than the "I don't know what I want to do crowd" thinks and there is little motivation to put in the work.
@tracy_cakkes
@tracy_cakkes Жыл бұрын
This is interesting. Do you think you could do a video on Fintech as a major?
@babitapandhare1889
@babitapandhare1889 Жыл бұрын
As i already graduated and its been 3 years working in traditional finance industry . I would suggest take accounting or statistics with computer science . It will help you a lot .
@tracy_cakkes
@tracy_cakkes Жыл бұрын
@@babitapandhare1889 okay, can I ask why that would help more?
@katydid5088
@katydid5088 Жыл бұрын
@@tracy_cakkes You need to understand what the programs do, what statistical data already exists using established financial services which rely on compiled statistics, AI, integral calculus, algorithms, and machine learning. In other words, you need to talk numbers first AND know what's going on in the technology sector. If you don't have work experience, you're college will be educating you with information that is a year or more out of date. (And if you're at a good school with a professor in demand, a T.A PhD. Student will be teaching classes who may or may not actually have teaching experience OR relevant knowledge in their feild.) While this is not always the case, getting schooled by the perpetual student who couldn't find a job and thinks more schooling is marketable will leave you well behind being taught by someone who genuinely made good connections and good grades to back up their understanding of the subject. On top of everything else, they're also likely to be a better teacher because they've been in dozens of meetings more dangerous and socially applicable than academia on its own.
@What_Makes_Climate_Tick
@What_Makes_Climate_Tick 3 ай бұрын
My undergraduate experience was at a small liberal arts college. Based on that experience, most of these numbers seem low, except for business. What was typical was people leaving computer science, physics, biology, etc., usually because of the rigor, and moving to business administration. Engineering was offered only through a cooperative arrangement with the nearby state university, which didn't make much sense to me. Many also transferred to the state university whose campus was literally two blocks away, usually because of cost. I made it through with a physics degree, and got into a Ph.D. program at a high-prestige private university. One of the professors there told me that they tend to accept more students with better outcomes who have succeeded at a smaller school like that than even from the Ivy+ schools.
@AthamAldecua
@AthamAldecua Жыл бұрын
I don't know, man. I'm going for engineering (4th year), and I can tell you that we lost at least 30% of our original classmates. Maybe my school sucks xD
@noahcarter3868
@noahcarter3868 Жыл бұрын
This is dropout not fail rate. The stats here if they are even correct don't include people who flunk out.
@yume8666
@yume8666 Жыл бұрын
@@noahcarter3868 True, it also might not include students who switch majors. A lot of engineering students are probably determined/smart but are overwhelmed and choose to switch to an easier major
@AthamAldecua
@AthamAldecua Жыл бұрын
We can split hairs if you want, I guess. Call it what you want then, but I have noticed that a lot of people are not around anymore.
@ABEL-cd2sp
@ABEL-cd2sp Жыл бұрын
@@yume8666 that's fair in some ways honestly, a lot of mechatronics students leave because they can't handle the stress and become Industrial engineering students. We call them administrators with a hardhat. Needless to say they LOVE being called that and definitely don't get mad about it.
@ABEL-cd2sp
@ABEL-cd2sp Жыл бұрын
@@AthamAldecua Yep in mechatronics out of 100 maybe 40-60 end up graduating in my University. Though we've had some generations that genuinely 20-30 out of 100 actually graduated. It's the first couple semesters that always act like the filters.
@zweiwing4435
@zweiwing4435 Жыл бұрын
Among reason are natural disasters, financial problem, hard to find stable job , family problems, multi-linguistic, and etc.
@marcusrosales3344
@marcusrosales3344 Жыл бұрын
I should note that a PhD works against individuals in industry sometimes because they are TOO specialized! Having a broad set of skills is good in many ways, and safer probably. It of course matters what your speciality is. It isn't exactly black and white. Also I've heard of companies highering people only because that individual speaks 3 languages. It just shows general ability. I at least hope my dual major in Math and Physics with a 4.0, and me getting a masters in computer while completing a condensed matter PhD is worth it, to the very least, in that sense...
@CountChokcula
@CountChokcula Жыл бұрын
sums up a PhD in engineering
@blackswan7568
@blackswan7568 Жыл бұрын
I figured CS would be on the list, but I didn't think it'd be No. 1🤦‍♂
@jack-py3oc
@jack-py3oc Жыл бұрын
Have you ever talked about a linguistics degree here? I'm thinking of majoring in linguistics but don't know if it's worth it :/
@ladislau2635
@ladislau2635 Жыл бұрын
Its not
@ronkethewriter
@ronkethewriter Жыл бұрын
Definitely not worth it.
@l.m8358
@l.m8358 Жыл бұрын
Linguistic like modern languages?
@apollomedia7210
@apollomedia7210 Жыл бұрын
I know 3 languages like an expert. Did not use any of them except talking to family and friends and such.
@macska92
@macska92 Жыл бұрын
@@apollomedia7210 This really depends on where you live and what you do, here in Europe many companies expect you to speak English + at least another European language
@chicanomendez5936
@chicanomendez5936 Жыл бұрын
Construction management degree, land surveying, and civil engineering technology
@cloudboysmusic5223
@cloudboysmusic5223 11 ай бұрын
Had an interview about a year ago where the I was the first computer science major to get interviewed after about 30. The senior dev was like "finally someone who knows how to do a binary search, all the interviews i've done in the past couple of weeks have been boot campers. You would assume they'd know how to fking solve a simple agorithm when they're coding like 60 hrs a week." He went into like a 10 min rant lmao I ended up getting an offer but pay to low so rejected it
@spiderbyte407
@spiderbyte407 Жыл бұрын
Great!
@JustSomeCanadianGuy
@JustSomeCanadianGuy Жыл бұрын
They need a Futurama destiny machine where you just find out what available career you can get with your mental abilities that you’d be happiest at. And if college is necessary that can be in the machine results. 😆 But the best job I got I didn’t even need any education to get!
@archangeldeltius1511
@archangeldeltius1511 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm surprised the drop out rates are not higher. I remember doing my Bach in crim & crimjust and like 80% of the students dropped
@AthamAldecua
@AthamAldecua Жыл бұрын
I need to start investing on my education very wisely 🤑
@AdmiralofU2
@AdmiralofU2 Жыл бұрын
I think we need to focus more on job training than studying degrees. People need life experience more than education. They don't really know what a job is like until they practise it
@bimrebeats
@bimrebeats Жыл бұрын
Job training IS education. No less than institutional education.
@AdmiralofU2
@AdmiralofU2 Жыл бұрын
@@bimrebeats point taken. Not all education is job training. Lets be more specific. People go to uni and study degrees. But, not all degrees train people with real skills, eg, a Bachelor of Philosophy doesn't give people a lot of skills useful for the workforce. Going to technical college, however, trains people in skills useful for jobs, sometimes even everyday life. Even working in low skills and menial jobs can make people more prepared for the workforce. Despite that, people think mostly about what they'll study post high school, yet don't always consider how they'll prepare themselves for life and their career.
@Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is.
@Svetlana-says-it-as-it-is. 3 ай бұрын
Combine subjects is an ok degree if you have different interests and are not looking for a specific job.
@ReemAlshaher
@ReemAlshaher Жыл бұрын
I literally started college at 24 because I STILL do not know what to major in. I am now 28 an about to have my General AA degree. I want your advice on what is the most guaranteed career that will make me at least 75k a year that is not extremely difficult and an entry level position that is going to pay at least 50k base. Any advice? Literally, I have watched so many of your videos which is helpful. I currently bartend, and just don't want to go to continue to only make how much I currently do ya know? Thanks Shane!
@ForTheOmnissiah
@ForTheOmnissiah Жыл бұрын
Being realistic, if you want 75k a year, you have to earn it. CS majors don't get their "cushy" job easily. You have to, as a bare minimum, get a CS degree. And as stated in the video, it has the highest dropout rate in the U.S. If getting a job that is high pay is easy, then the competition is extreme. Getting a degree in a field that isn't exactly common makes you immediately stand out from the crowd as someone who actually cares about what they want to do as a living. Landing a 75k salary job isn't going to fall in your lap. It takes time and dedication, and in my case, sweat and tears to finish a degree and prove my worth. Work hard and prove yourself as being above the crowd. EVERYONE has the capability to do it, but it's only those who actually do it that end on the high ground.
@Nique3900
@Nique3900 Ай бұрын
Do high school subjects really determine which career path I should take. I did Tourism, Hospitality, history and maths literacy in grade 12 but I want to get a degree that can get me a lot of money and those high school subjects are not related to any careers with a high pay
@davidsoto4394
@davidsoto4394 Жыл бұрын
Engineering, Premed, pure math, applied math, and physics.
@AnthonyYang0211
@AnthonyYang0211 Жыл бұрын
mathematics and economics double major, is that a good choice? I might become an actuary if I can survive this combo.
@avy1
@avy1 Жыл бұрын
great choice but if you can, add some programming courses and if you can switch out math for applied math do it, that tends to translate better to the real world. Make sure you dont mind programming though, because you're going to be working a lot with it if you end up making economic/mathematical models.
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
A mathematics degree with coding background knowledge is effectively equivalent to a cs degree. You can basically do whatever you want. 99% of what you learn in school for any degree will be worthless and most jobs will require you to learn their specific set of tools so getting a generalist problem solver degree says you can quickly learn and be productive in no time. You also have the options of going into academics later if you want to get a mathematics or CS grad.
@AnthonyYang0211
@AnthonyYang0211 Жыл бұрын
@@avy1 ok, so what coding language is recommended?
@avy1
@avy1 Жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyYang0211 python is a good and easy start, learning the python basics tends to not be enough though, I recommend watching some videos by Clément Mihailescu on youtube, he was a math undergraduate who moved into computer science. You wont need to do everything he did if you dont want to be a software engineer of course but it can give a good guideline of where to start. You'll need to decide for yourself what you need to know.
@natgenesis5038
@natgenesis5038 Жыл бұрын
1 and 2 totally facts
@Blakekolb
@Blakekolb Жыл бұрын
I just got my bachelors in industrial engineering technology in May and I'm doing a masters in industry engineering and I'm switching to a mba next semester due to the difficulty of engineering.
@progamerzach1
@progamerzach1 Жыл бұрын
I tried computer science for 2 years but considered switching since it's way too hard. Originally wanted to go in for game development but I hate programming, fortunately I'm better at math. I read online industrial engineering is one of the easiest engineering degrees, any advice I should know before going in it?
@mathematicaleconomist4943
@mathematicaleconomist4943 Жыл бұрын
​@@progamerzach1 Ask the university counselor to test for mechanical reasoning. If you have low aptitude in mechanical reasoning, it's not advisable to go into engineering in ANY capacity. You can possess a very high aptitude in math while simultaneously possessing a low aptitude in mechanical reasoning. So, be careful!
@mathematicaleconomist4943
@mathematicaleconomist4943 Жыл бұрын
​@@progamerzach1 Now maybe you can help me out? What sounds harder to your ears? 1. Certified Public Accountant or 2. Masters Degree in Statistics?
@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods
@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods Жыл бұрын
As someone who is just the capstone away from graduating in CS it's interesting to me to see it at the top of this list.
@Skitlless
@Skitlless Жыл бұрын
Fellow WGU student, what’s up!
@reigndrops4090
@reigndrops4090 Жыл бұрын
I knew my major (engineering) would be on here, I just wanted to see where he put it.
@growithashim
@growithashim Жыл бұрын
I am a fully non-tech, non IT people, I don't know anything about this but however seeing the world going in IT, tech and AI. I don't want to remain backward. I also want to gain some tech knowledge.And my interest in on Entrepreneurship and business. My thoughts till now ;; ( Cpa, finance, little in tech , MIS , Business major ) 1. Major in finance and minor in tech 2. Bachelor in any business as major(not decided yet) and doing cpa later 3. MIS as major But. I am really confused on what to choose, what to pursue !! I just completed high school(+2) Please suggest me , what should i do ?
@jddonmoyer2489
@jddonmoyer2489 Жыл бұрын
Was Economics included in the business dropout rate?
@WarloyJenkins
@WarloyJenkins Жыл бұрын
probably partially because its different from school to school, you can even get an economics degree from the business school, or from the arts and sciences school at my university.
@user-li7gm7gv3v
@user-li7gm7gv3v Жыл бұрын
It can actually be very difficult to find someone to shadow in the medical field but okay
@katydid5088
@katydid5088 Жыл бұрын
Call the hospital and put in a volunteer form. They need to see you first and there are HUGE c.y.a issues that they need to cover before you are allowed to be in the room with a patient. Doubly so if you shadow someone inside an O.R. An E.R is also not likely or Psyche is not going to let you hang around but urgent care might. Family Medicine or Sonography/Radiology/and Dentistry are easier, as is Fire and Rescue with EMT services.
@mathematicaleconomist4943
@mathematicaleconomist4943 Жыл бұрын
​@@katydid5088 What sounds harder to your ears? 1. Certified Public Accountant or 2. Masters Degree in Statistics?
@okeinsamuels4042
@okeinsamuels4042 Жыл бұрын
Where were you like 4 years ago before i started college ? sighs.
@truthserum1271
@truthserum1271 Жыл бұрын
Lol at the K. Hart clip
@Thatguy-mo8jd
@Thatguy-mo8jd Жыл бұрын
Are you counting switching majors?? Cause engineering is definitely higher than 7%
@MasterPandaBearChannel
@MasterPandaBearChannel Жыл бұрын
i'm studying finance in a third rate college, What shall I do to improve my chances , I'm living in a developing country. There's not much org and companies here. Thanks alot
@Rudenbehr
@Rudenbehr Жыл бұрын
move to another country
@MasterPandaBearChannel
@MasterPandaBearChannel Жыл бұрын
@@Rudenbehr I actually want to study in other country although that didn't go through because of extreme resistance of my family. Thank you , which country can you suggest
@kevinkruger6233
@kevinkruger6233 6 ай бұрын
So ya. I'm a Biological and Agricultural Engineer. Do I combine all the percentages for my major.
@daviddixon6408
@daviddixon6408 Жыл бұрын
I know someone who has a degree in 17th century French poetry. Needless to say they can't find a job.
@nataliafreitas4637
@nataliafreitas4637 Жыл бұрын
Is Interesting that math or physics are not in this list. They are so rigorous you would think there are many people dropping out
@tammyque1506
@tammyque1506 8 ай бұрын
Only a genius would major in physics.
@willnill7946
@willnill7946 Жыл бұрын
Most people don’t work in their major, so your specialist argument is silly. You need to learn one of two things in school, writing skills or math. Everything else can be learned in a week if you have one of those skills
@Prodigy10044
@Prodigy10044 Жыл бұрын
So if hiring a boot camper is better than hiring a cs grad. Why are we cs majors wasting our time then? Why shouldn't we drop out and just go a few month bootcamp?
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
A cs degree will get you in the door for an interview basically anywhere and with higher pay. The problem is most of what you're learning is useless. It's basically a problem solver's specialist degree kindof like mathematics but with coding sprinkled in for flavor. Ultimately companies will need to teach you how to use their specific work environment tools regardless of where you came from. Bootcamps will quickly teach you how to use specific tools and environments which makes you competitive for lower level positions and maybe even more desirable than a CS major who only knows C and java or python from their classes. Only the best of the best bootcampers will outpace a CS major as they lack the rigorous problem solving skill set and they are less likely to get interviewed in the first place by certain businesses. (I have a CS degree and I'm one of 2 CS majors at my current company. I make more than most of the technical graduates despite doing similar work and I was promoted to mid level in just a year as apposed to 5)
@Vuden13
@Vuden13 Жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to kyle he works at a start up and is coping by saying cs is hard and all this other stuff
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
@@Vuden13 oof he got me. My stock options didn't vest and i have to type this from free wifi behind a wendys. Avoid CS or you'll end up like me. Everyone knows the hardest degree is actually telecommunications and i should have known better.
@user-no6fm1oh7n
@user-no6fm1oh7n 4 ай бұрын
I question the validity of this video. Where are these statistics coming from? At my school, engineering has >50% dropout rate.
@jordenflamigen9590
@jordenflamigen9590 4 ай бұрын
Those are all insane low dropout rates. In Germany, physics for Example has a drop out rate of over 50%. Iguess its partly because there are now tuition fees.
@jeremymoore145
@jeremymoore145 Ай бұрын
It’s funny that biological sciences is on this list. Working in the lab is not boring if you have a passion for it. I have a degree as a medical lab scientist and I will always have a job.
@sumtingwong8768
@sumtingwong8768 Жыл бұрын
Aviation piloting these aren't really degrees but you can get a degree in it they have like a 50% dropout rate
@Qwasieee_P
@Qwasieee_P Жыл бұрын
Why is CS harder than than engineering courses when almost all you learn in CS is in EE ??
@LucinaMeow
@LucinaMeow Жыл бұрын
Dropout ≠ how hard it is. Engineering is for the most part more difficult (expect some Engineering fields I think)
@wolvie8921
@wolvie8921 Жыл бұрын
You do not learn the CS degree material in EE. EE here
@LucinaMeow
@LucinaMeow Жыл бұрын
@@wolvie8921 that's true CPE on the other hand have quite a lot of CS classes (Computer engineering here)
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
I'd say CS and EE are on the same difficulty level, they are just different skill sets. I know a ton of EE's when i was getting my cs degree who really struggled with coding for some reason despite acing all their math and physics courses. The compiler grammar and complex data structures are difficult for some and easy for others to visualize.
@Vuden13
@Vuden13 Жыл бұрын
@@kylesizemore2751 you did not just say ee and cs are equal in levels of difficulty lil bro
@avy1
@avy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad to see you believe in the right-brain left-brain myth, it's been disproven many many times.
@danielmonarrez6029
@danielmonarrez6029 Жыл бұрын
I know some who doesnt have a degree extreme college drop outs wasting time and others should do their work even that the college might have hobbies clubs lets give dance schools learn the human body skeletal system general education is verry as long its alot of hard work for those with academic probation that we know are payying out of pocket my friends they have to retake or take summer school graduate early like a bachlors of arts pick hobbies bachlors of science i went to barrington high school class some of them have jobs with their bachlors a high school but for most college alumnis they go back some of them got their masters in education a phd an associates degree half of them wasted money went to pay all their college tuition my friends sister she is working with a college freak drop out he yells jenna dude what is his problem he yells jenna puts his privates on the windows
@baamall6059
@baamall6059 Жыл бұрын
Actually architecture don't have the highest hours of study , in france the students of CPGE study between 35-40 h per week 💀
@Eva2310blabla
@Eva2310blabla Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the individuals as well and uni. The uni where I studied architecture was more than 40 hours. But that was for the bachelors degree. Masters was less hours.
@sneha5940
@sneha5940 Жыл бұрын
It's 22 hours per week beside college hours If you add up college time it becomes 62 hours per week
@towlatrip6529
@towlatrip6529 8 ай бұрын
Hey, Shane, what was your major in College?
@jonmorgan-wilson9960
@jonmorgan-wilson9960 Жыл бұрын
Go to community college first. Find what classes you enjoy most and get good grades in…THAT IS YOUR NATURAL MAJOR! From that you can minor in something similar. And it doesn’t matter when you graduate just be a lifelong learner and you will make it. Lack of maturity, misconceptions about “majors” are the biggest causes of dropping out. Steve Jobs dropped out… there’s a lot to be said about hands on real world experience
@user-th4rf8yl9v
@user-th4rf8yl9v 11 ай бұрын
id did my undergrad in political science and human rights and did my master sin international human rights law I work for the International criminal Court i taught myself arabic chinese english french russian spanish portuguese afrikaans xhosa nad zulu i am apublished writer state winner of new jersey in geography bee in 2004
@MikeFuller-ok6ok
@MikeFuller-ok6ok 4 ай бұрын
Just think how intelligent Goethe was, having no scientific training but making notable contributions to botany, zoology, geology, and optics. Phew!!
@davidbrothers8615
@davidbrothers8615 Жыл бұрын
I'm double majoring and both my degrees are # 1 and # 2
@josiahademiluyi4677
@josiahademiluyi4677 10 ай бұрын
How is it for you
@davidbrothers8615
@davidbrothers8615 10 ай бұрын
@josiahademiluyi4677 busy but manageable
@Aaron_R
@Aaron_R Жыл бұрын
with computer science, your skills are obsolete by the time you graduate
@rocknation7065
@rocknation7065 Жыл бұрын
Are language degrees worth it video
@rocknation7065
@rocknation7065 Жыл бұрын
*that could be a video idea
@Polutioner
@Polutioner Жыл бұрын
I like your t Shirt
@mdavis3262
@mdavis3262 Жыл бұрын
I think nursing is harder….it is def more competitive…you have to get accepted into the nursing program..many schools all you have to do is apply to CS and engineering programs
@kylesizemore2751
@kylesizemore2751 Жыл бұрын
Just because a college hungry for your money will let you sign up for a bunch of CS and EE courses doesn't mean you will actually pass them. At my college the two big filters were intro coding courses for babies where class would start with 100 people and end with 30-50 and then 3 years in with a test that was basically "if you can't pass this, you're an IT major now" which 50% of people failed (you get 3 tries). Not to say nursing isn't demanding and difficult in its own way but most people will never be capable of completing a cs or ee degree.
@lukehall3486
@lukehall3486 Жыл бұрын
@@kylesizemore2751 I have absolutely no doubts what you’re saying is true. But you’d be shocked at how many people leave Nursing as well. I’m a senior Bachelor Nursing student, we started with 80. Down to 35 now!
@vonatrixcrusader6604
@vonatrixcrusader6604 Жыл бұрын
being a medical doctor with a speciality degree and now getting accepted to a subspecialty/fellow degree let me tell you the career is very difficult. from 120 freshman when I enter to medschool, only 12 got strait to finish it, and 3 years later other 14 people, that means that only 21% got graduate from MD. Plus, if you get to enter from a medical specialty from those 26, only 9 we applied and got accepted to course a medical specialty, that means that onky 34% made a medical specialty, and from those 9 specialist only 2 (that include myself) to a medical subspecialty/fellow , only 22% would got to the top of a the field in this proffession. And I didnt include all the filters and constant evaluation that are made throught the career. That all, greetings from Hispanic America.
@Franky566
@Franky566 Жыл бұрын
6:20 being a generalist helps when you are trying to be a manager.
@truthserum1271
@truthserum1271 Жыл бұрын
Lol as Build a bear 👷🐻
@laangelsfan
@laangelsfan Жыл бұрын
Thank God, Criminal Justice Isn’t on the list 😅
@johndoe-wv3nu
@johndoe-wv3nu Жыл бұрын
Good luck getting a job with criminal justice.
@orpix34
@orpix34 Жыл бұрын
hey man google aint hirin me from a bootcamp. what do i do :(
@frordondanksey1822
@frordondanksey1822 Жыл бұрын
Fell for the bootcamp meme. Go to a CC, and get a tech associate then transfer to finish a bachelors. Bachelors are a necessity for any job
@jacksoncope2996
@jacksoncope2996 Жыл бұрын
First
@BlessingsfromBridget
@BlessingsfromBridget Жыл бұрын
I’m 36 and just starting my first semester in computer science. I have a bachelor’s degree already. It was in speech pathology. A master’s degree is needed to work in it. I got a 4.0 in all my master’s classes but I failed my internship, so I didn’t get my degree. I worked several poverty level jobs after grad school. The stress of poverty led to me becoming disabled. But because I am disabled, I was able to get all my student loans forgiven (I had 105K in loans) and I got a full scholarship to go back to school for a second degree. I chose to go for computer science. It is very hard but I love it.
@josiahademiluyi4677
@josiahademiluyi4677 10 ай бұрын
That’s good to hear man, I wish the best for you
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