I would watch a documentary about the production of this film.

What a dream team I miss these days R.I.P Schnepp

One scene in particular that worked for me is when they got their powers and I felt like there was legitimate fear. But overall this movie just didn't feel finished. I would give it a 3/10.

Oh man Campea's impression of Torches dad has got me rolling!

"If Dr. Doom has the ability to fry people's faces' then why the hell was he having fisty cuffs with Mr. fantastic." That was hilarious 😂😂😂

Wait Wait Wait.....Sue got her powers cause she was close to them? WTF

Someone put Mark Ellis' analogies on the back of the Blu-Ray box. "OJ Simpson had a better third act in his career than this movie" "It's like a dog I hit in the street and just want it out of it's misery" "A fat baby wrecking sand castles on the beach"

The last 2 Fantastic Fours are at least bearable, unlike this piece of crap. So I'd say Fant4stic is worse than the last 2.

Jon Schnepp's next movie: Fan-four-stick 4: WHAT HAPPENED!?!

Best part of this movie was when it was over and I lift the theater came home and watch four grown men just rip it apart, best film experience ever

The first 2000s Fantastic Fours were the Dark Knight compared to this

Wow u ruined the whole movie for me.. Major spoilers 😡

The thing that makes the Fantastic Four distinct from every other super hero team is the family dynamic. That was completely non existent in this movie. None of them had any chemistry. Hell, when Sue met Reed and Ben, she had more of a spark with Ben.

I could take a poop and look at it for 100 minutes and that would still be better than this moive

It seems Fantastic Four will be the biggest comic book movie financial flop since Green Lantern.

I've read and watched a bunch of reviews and I'm dying to see this!

The first half of the movie is Ok. I think the last half of the movie is sooooooo bad that it makes the first half SEEM good.

Great review guys I really felt like you guys gave a really fair review to a movie that can be very frustrating but had some good things at least in the first half.

wow Dennis is still alive.

Agree with the reviews and scores, but HOW can you rate this one over the original and Silver Surfer? Yes, they were disappointing because they were mediocre and played too silly. But this movie is utterly BROKEN after Reed Richards leaves the secret base. In the first half, the only real problem was Ben Grimm utterly disappearing while Reed is at the Baxter. In the second half, NOTHING WORKS. I'll take Jessica Alba, CPT 'Merica, The Play-doh Thing, and Mr. Welsh vs Electro Doom over this POS any day.

The shit has hit the fan... ...tastic four. That's all I've got.

Stuckmann said there was nothing to be spoiled. lol

I haven't seen the film but by hearing you guys talk about it, I kinda want to see what the fuss is all about. Very informative you guys, thanks.

Dennis!!! I missed you. Also, watching this video with no desire of seeing the movie - couldn't care less about these spoilers - but interested in hearing these guys' opinions.

Thanks guys, I was looking for a fleshed out full spoiler. = )

I actually liked the first two acts and also thinking to myself, am I the only one who's liking this? But that third act was just so rushed and forced, didn't feel that Josh Trank directed that. And I actually liked Doom, but he was so wasted as a character. The final battle was so anticlimactic and just felt so angry leaving the theater, thinking about the potential being so wasted. Nice review you guys!

I'm more in Mark's camp. I didn't hate the movie(although that is only because I read a LOT of reviews so I knew exactly what I was getting into), but there is NOTHING for me to recommend here. I'll give you that the first half is decent, but the problem is that the first half is setup, and that depends on the payoff, which was horrible in this film. The first half doesn't have much going on other than setup and basic introduction, so it's hard to for me to recommend seeing this film at all. You know a film is bad when they can make very talented actors look like amateurs. Seriously there were scenes where you can tell that the cast(Particularly Jordan and Teller) didn't care and were just there for the paycheck, but admittedly that pretty much comes from the second half, especially the last 10 or so minutes. There was no chemistry between the 4 leads, and a lot of that is because most of the time the 4 characters aren't even sharing screen time. By the time you get to the end and they become the "Fantastic Four" you can't help but feel incredibly awkward at their character interaction since it feels so forced. I'll actually say that the first 2 Fox FF movies are better for the sole reason that things actually happened in those movies and at least had a light, fun tone which made them semi-enjoyable even if they were bad movies. Sorry Schnepp, but I have to say Green Lantern is better than this garbage. A big nitpick for me is the fact that The Thing isn't wearing pants(I know that sounds like an exaggerated fanboy reaction, but hear me out a little bit). It made me question certain parts of his physiology and psychology. He's clearly naked, but yet we see nothing to indicate that he's a male or that he is able to go to the restroom, so is that an intentional statement by the filmmakers that he doesn't need to go to the restroom? If that's so does he not need to eat? Does he even have the necessary equipment to procreate or just have sex in general? If that's the case how does he feel about that incapability? Sex is an important part of life(especially for young adults), so how does he feel about possibly not even having genitalia?What's the situation here? The brilliance of The Thing having pants is that it humanizes the character. The fact that he wears clothes shows that underneath that rocky exterior he's still the kind, loyal, blue-eyed Ben Grimm(plus it eliminates the physiological questions since we can assume that he's got genitalia), and the film missed out on that. Furthermore, since he's clearly naked does he not have a problem with walking around naked everywhere? It would be nice to explore his characterization to know these things, but we never get that chance. We have a guy who was just a normal kid who is being forced to be a weapon for the government, and that is something he didn't prepare or train for, so what are the psychological ramifications of those events. You can't just randomly take an 18 year old kid and tell them to go fight in wars without that having a serious effect on the kid. Especially when they're not allowed to socialize or just be a normal human being. So many missed opportunities with all of these characters, but especially with Ben.

Totally agree with you guys. The first half showed potential and was pretty good then it became a COMPLETELY different movie. What you talked about on movie talk earlier regarding Fox was extremely evident.

I don't care what you do with the Fantastic 4. Just pull Dr. Doom away from Fox and make him a major villain in the MCU. Doom is one of the greatest Marvel villians of all time. He should be treated as such.

7:50 gotta love those moments when John drops the restraints and goes full sweaty.

In his review, Chris Stuckmann said there is nothing to spoiler about this movie, and he was right, there were little to no spoilers for this movie, and I haven't even seen it!!! I just for came here to here it was garbage.

Just going to watch this instead of going to see the movie, who cares. Would rather support you guys.

This is the first spoiler review that I watched before I saw the film and now I want to see it even more. I'm so curious about how I personally will feel about it. I feel I'm gonna come out loving it

I so agree with John and Dennis about the first act of the film. By the 2nd act of the film, I started noticing the cracks in the film. And then the 3rd act came out of nowhere.

It's 9% on rottentomatoes... a lot of people were guessing that this movie would be bad, but I don't think ANYONE thought it was going to be Catwoman bad...

Hopefully the rights go back to MCU soon, then Marvel will make a Future Foundation movie.

Great to see Dennis again. I haven't seen the movie because I will wait for cable or VOD. Just wasn't digging anything but how The Thing looked from the trailers.

Thank you Mark Ellis for being unbiased in your review, looking out for us movie goers and our hard earned cash. These lack luster films continue to get made as John has stated in the past because we keep on seeing them (not sure why he would want us see this one and support something that has obviously gone for a cash grab and not a quality film that we fans would see numerous times).

Watching this since I'm not going to be watching the movie anytime soon >_>

I've missed Dennis. Good to see ya, buddy!

Haven't seen the movie and really don't plan on doing so, was just eager to see the discussion you had on it! Can't believe Fox has dropped the ball again, what a shame.

Great review guys.i am so not bothered about this movie i watched anyway.i had my doubts about this reboot ever since the announcement.the premise sounded bad and the trailers just confirmed it for me.i will see it just to say ive seen it.

Fant4stic was terrrrrrrrrrrrible

Over the weekend, HitFix’s Donna Dickenssuggested an awesome idea where the Fantastic Four were alive and active in the 1960s of the MCU, giving them the opportunity to interact with folks like Hank Pym, Howard Stark and Peggy Carter. A mission gone wrong saw them lost in space, only to return in the modern MCU without missing a beat. It’s an interesting way of staying true to the idea of Marvel’s FIRST Family, while also explaining why we haven’t seen them yet in the MCU. Plus, it connects the team with Iron Man and Cap in an immediate way, given their established relationship with Howard Stark and Peggy Carter.

me and Jon Schnepp are perfectly in sync on how we feel with this movie....I liked it until that one year later part....to add...I feel like Doom shouldnt have even been in this movie...not Victor...but Doom....I feel like the government should have been the enemy of the film....instead of Reed running away ...have him free everyone else and they all disappear ....then have the scene with Reed trying to build the new pod and the government using some other brainy nerd track him and they fight the entire 4 in the woods and then have Dr Storm stop the fight and ask them for help against a terroist plot or something and then they get left alone by the government and they take over the Baxter Building ...then show Doom like in a mid credits scene say ...Doom is coming ....I mean...let Doom be the 2nd movie villain...thats just my take....but maybe we all need to come to the conclusion that F4 may just not need to be a live action movie EVER

Great review you guys! I'd have to agree that the first act is great! It builds and hints at some great things to look forward to but then it falls flat on its face and struggles to get back up. I give it a 4.5/10 and 2/5 Stars

I'm on the same side as Dennis where he said it all got downhill after '1 Year Later'

I would love to be "The Thing" because...well because he rocks O_O what?

Love the reference to OJ! :)

I am planning to be part of this experience. I will spend money on this sometime at the local redbox.

I'm going to see it next weekend.

This is the first time I'm watching a SPOILERS movie review before watching the movie cause I have no interest in seeing Fantastic 4. Now let's get on to the video :D

Great spoilers review. Loved it.

Reed Richards saying the Sinister Six and then holding up two tiny people lololol

Dr.Doom has the potential to be the greatest cinematic comic-book super villain. All they have to do is make him like he is in the comics.

It's funny because this is the only spoilers review I've ever watched before watching the movie. This totally shows my level of enthusiasm I have for this movie.

You know, I know the Nostaglia Critic just did a review on the first Fantastic 4 movie, oh man I hope he does this one

I think this was good in the sense that this puts FOX on the spot light, before the "1 year after" you see Trank's Fantastic 4, after that is what FOX did to ruin what could've been a great movie. FOX must know they need to let directors do their job and stop imposing their terms once the prodution has begun, after this they shouldn't dare touch "Deadpool" or "X-Men" otherwise they'll begin drive away writers, actors, and directors for being impossible to work with, and follow the path of studios like "MgM" and go utterly bankrupt! and if they think that can't happen then they are the stubborn naïve fools everyone takes them for. Now if FOX wants to rescue something out of this; not lose a great property, their image and risking their very capital for any future projects, they should bring back Josh Trank, Simon Kinberg and Jeremy Slater and let them have that “Directors Cut of the Fantastic 4” in the way they wanted the movie to be, for FOX now generates doubt and questionable capabilities as a major film studio. Let the audience (who they live from and are conscious of what they like and deserve) have that one vision for these characters. That if they want to be the ones to continue this franchise and make it profitable, the studio must discus with the director and screen-writers what they would like in a sequel, agree on the terms and let Josh Trank do his thing, the opportunity is far too precious financially and artistically to let it pass, the smart thing to do is make amends and move for something better if not all they look forward as a studio are losses and be a shame for the industry because for the only one this is playing against is them.

According to the latest print issue of Entertainment Weekly (via Comic Book Movie), things were incredibly tense. Trank reportedly had issues forming a coherent vision for the film, producer Simon Kinberg was brought in to help, but Trank wasn’t happy with the changes they made and wrote another draft, which caused delays. Then the studio cut the budget by $30 million, down to $120 million, which Trank didn’t think was enough to fulfill his vision, scenes were removed, and decisions were taken out of his hands. All of this and more bubbled over during production. According to the article:

Needed a training Montage!

I actually work at a movie theater, so they screened it for us, I got to see it, and yah, I probably agree the most with Mark, you guys said it all, it just completely derails after the middle where we dont get to see any character, any team forming, or any villain being developed. To chime in on your sequel talk, I worked opening night, usually the busiest show time for a superhero summer blockbuster, not even half the theater was full for the 730 show, and almost every member of the audience expressed some form of hate towards this movie. When the general audience that usually accepts a Transformers or Pixels says that about your movie, I don't think you're getting a sequel, especially after they revealed the box office for Friday night tracking at just half of the initial projections

10:54 "Oj Simpson has had a better 3rd act of his career than the 3rd act of Fantastic Four"... WOW! I have never heard a review that.. WOW!

I don't think that the movie is as bad as many people say. Obviously, that third act ruined the good things the movie was doing. However, I think it's acceptable.

Isn"t Dr doom motivation about getting his mother Bck.?? Why they NVR seem to achieve that ？

I don't think you can judge this Fantastic Four movie compared to the previous FF movies. Roger Corman's FF movie was made only because they had to in order to keep the rights to the franchise. The two other films were created right as the tone of comic book movies was being changed by Christopher Nolan's dark and gritty, hyper-realistic approach.

I liked the movie and would happily watch it again. I wish that you guys would've discussed the fact that Fox took 3 major fight scenes out of the final cut. I really do hope that they release a directors cut of the movie so I can see what Tranks vision was in full. I hear what you guys are saying about it, there are some things that I cannot argue but I will say I do like the film. My score would be 6/10

I completely agree with everything Dennis said, and I'd go 5/10

Seen the movie yesterday, I agreed with John, it has good setup but the 3rd act is just... by the time it ended, I was asking myself what just happened? This is better than the other 2 F4.

I will just give it a 2.5/10.

To Campea's point about the line from Dr Storm, "my son can build anything" then first scene we see is him ruin the car well in the trailer you see Johnny work on a car so clearly it was one of the scenes that got scrapped

I could of seen this movie tonight but instead I saw mission impossible... I think I made the better choice.

Dennis said it best. I didn't care one bit about it being just another fun or funny superhero movie. I wanted it to do something different. The sci-fi/horror tone in the first half was pretty solid (the reactions to the powers and the Doom hallway scene were definitely the highlights), but then the movie suddenly became a generic superhero movie with an incoherently messy, awful finale. That last scene was cringe-worthy beyond belief too.

They had a good idea with the government using the, but nothing happened with that. It seems like Trank just got fired halfway through

they should of had a montage over the year they skipped, and even showed what doom was doing back on the other dimension, it would of been cool if Doom built a transporter and found a way back, so he could seek revenge on "those who left him behind". Plus the should of worked on the action and character relations. I haven't seen a superhero film this short in a long time.

I also really liked the movie up until that time jump ahead one year. The tone and horror elements really intrigued me. The moment when they returned from Planet Zero after Victor had been trapped was really well done. The shot of Johnny's body laying motionless and burning really stuck out to me. I also liked Doom for what we got but he was underused so badly and it was unfortunate. I would love to see a sequel because I love the idea of the Fantastic Four and the cast is so talented. Bring in a new director and maybe a new writer (I'm not off on Kinberg quite yet) and we could get something really cool.

It's nice to see you guys give a negative review on a movie during its opening weekend. I hope to see more of them.

I agree with yall about the beginning and yeah the whole one year later I was like "why?" and that's where it was failing for me and I've never read Fantastic Four comics but I know what Doom's powers are but his powers in the movie was just ugh like this is your villain? Doom was good till he got his powers and I liked his look but what a waste of a character. I thought it was ok I give it a 5 out of 10 and if they do make a sequel they better up their game.

Don't agree with the views on the beginning. To me, it was a mash-up of Jimmy Neutron and Meet the Robinsons. And the relationship between Reed and Ben felt like it was ripped off from a Wildcards novel, where the wimpy guy has a friendship with a tough dude whose dad owns a junkyard. The science was ridiculous and the notion that Doctor Storm was recruiting scientists at a high school science fair felt like it was ripped off from an Atomic Robo comic. And it got worse from there!

Damn Mark that was awesome.

I just came from watching it a couple of hours ago and I thought the 1st half was good for what it was. It resembled the Ultimate versions of the team with some tweaks here and there. I personally needed clarification if it was worse than Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance and I can say its better than that. The tone shifted after the 1 year later part and that's when it went down hill. I didn't mind the darker tone of the movie since we got the fun campy versions from the other 2 films. I would say if you like comic book films in general see it just to say you saw it. If not then that's ok to.

Mark was right about us not wanting to spend money watching this movie.

Great review guys! I'm sorry, but I'm just not the type of guy that goes and watches a movie that everyone says is bad. Maybe I'll rent it when the time comes, but I'm not wasting time and money on something that I know I won't enjoy. I can't stand incomplete things.

The worst part is that people had faith. I HAD FAITH.

I'll be honest. I liked the beginning too. Had the entire movie had a good pacing, maybe it would've been good. Or maybe if Fox just let Trank do his Job instead of taking over the editing and reshooting everything. What killed it for me were the following: - Reed is disqualified from the competition for no good reason - Reed doesn't request that Ben be allowed to stay with him for that Baxter building thing, despite Ben having helped him get that far - It's out of character for Reed or Victor to get drunk. Pretty sure they only did that to explain why they would do something as stupid as going to that other dimension - They just completely let Ben into the building with the only justification being Reed says to them "He's with me" - Reed leaves for a year and with all his intelligence, can't find some way to send a message to his friends saying "hey, I'm trying to fix this. Try and keep the army off my back." Or at least, something along the lines of that. And don't say there was no way to do that. This asshole built a functioning teleportation device while he was in primary school. I'm certain he could do that. - Like stated in the video, Reed gives no explanation to Ben about what he's been doing the past year, even if it wouldn't have worked, he didn't even try - When they bring Reed back to the place, he and Johnny are supposedly bros because they got drunk together that one time. - Why did Doom want to destroy the Earth again? Out of character. Plus, if he just wanted to stay in that dimension, why did he let them take him back? Surely he had enough power to stop them from bringing him back - When Doom's fighting the Four, aside from apparently all tension being resolved in the group, Doom seems to be able to control their powers. 1. How the f*ck is he doing that? 2. Why didn't he immobilize them like that, then blow up their faces? - How did Doom survive in the other dimension? No food, no water or anything. Or is that just a part of his extremely vague powerset of: ~ Controlling other people's abilities ~ Blowing up people's faces ~ Opening Black Holes ~ Creating capes out of.. nothing ~ And apparently, being able to live without food, water, or breathable air Damn. That was just me having a rough run-down of the movie based off the poor quality version I watched online a few days ago. I should work with CinemaSins.

When I saw the movie today it was just me and a father with his son. That was the audience.

I'm gonna go see it tonight

I disagree telling people to see this film just so you can say you saw it. Terrible reason. People can see this movie for far less money than a theater ticket if you have a Netflix account and wait a few months. Going to sub-par films encourages studios to make sub-par films. The only way for Fox to treat this franchise with respect is NOT support this film with your money. Once you pay for a ticket -you've supported a terrible movie. Your enjoyment is not a condition for Fox. They get your money either way. So this excuse to go just to be part of the experience is a terrible reason to go. It sounds like something Fox is hoping you do and a waste of money.

Man its a damn good day when Dennis is on! We need more Dennis!

Up to Reed escaping Area 57 I was all one board on this movie

I actually liked the idea of a slow build and waiting till the very end to bring them together. That 1 year later hurt. There should of been some sort of training and scientific research montage between them 3 and Reed. Also the ending needed to be a longer. I can't believe this movie was only and hour and a 1/2. In todays world you'd think it'd be illegal for a superhero movie to be less than 2 hours. This movie reminded me alot of the maze runner and mocking jay part 1. You just tell this beginning story and don't really finish it. I want more. I want to see what's next. Also there's rumors that a sequel is pushed back but isn't there already somewhat of a confirmation like Terminator Genisys that no matter what, bad or good, this movies getting a sequel just due to rights and all. Also thank you for saying at the end don't just say its crap if you didnt see it. The movies getting more negative reviews than total people who bought tix. If all those people actually went and saw the film it'd grossed 100 mill

I recommend people to go see it in the theater cause it is not what everyone says it is. It's actually pretty fantastic (no pun intended).

Does anyone remember when Reeds powers were meant to be that he could bend space around his body - not that he was made of literal superhuman rubber?

Thanks for saving me the time and money. I'll wait till it shows up in my local redbox and I receive an email for a free movie.

ColliderVideos do you think switching the origins of Reed and Doom would have made for better characters? They should have made Reed be the failed scientist who started the project and then left and made Doom the newcomer. That way they could have built chemistry between Doom and Susan which would have changed once Reed came back and set up a real rivalry and given a reason for Doom to want revenge.

I like the reason why they went to the negative zone

Ellis got it. 10:50 - "you're going to be so upset you won't know what to do with yourself." That was exactly my reaction.

I haven't seen it yet but I can't not click on this video. I'm weak.

Fantastic Four taught me an important life lesson. Don't drink and science.

i agree with most of this except i liked the part when they came up with the name. thought it was funny ans seemed like the ff

I agree with most of the points. And this have got to be the funniest spoiler review i ever seen. Good luck fantastic four