Lizardmen make me cry. Love the aesthetic, basically no real mechanics. I do think Oxyotle is the best lord in the game for learning how to play skirmish style.

Next ranked legendary lords.

As someone who used to play tabletop WH, it's crazy to think that Skaven aren't balanced out by the randomness to their mechanics/roster/lore that is present in the army books. Oh, your doomclaw went bonkers and wheeled into your clan rats because you rolled a 1? Woops... Without the quirky (but somehow fun and lore appropriate) balancing measures, they are just OP.

While boring, I will say the ABSENCE of a mechanic makes Daniel a little bit better, which is of course the lack of his need to appease the various gods to field an army of their units. He can use whatever he wants, and often gets bonuses just for free. It feels like the gods are courting you and I think that’s a lot of fun, and I hope that’s how they improve on the faction and justify excluding Belakor from it.

Snitkch and throt have extremely powerful faction mechanics as well, I don't know why queek is my favorite but he is.

Slaanesh is one of the most inventive race. It's the only race who can win the game using mostly a completely different way to win than all the other races. This is Total War, and yet, Slaanesh has the extreme luxury of being the only race which can win without waging much war. It's all about the agents invasion and vassalizing. At least it works awesomely in lower difficulties. Maybe it's not the same feeling at all in harder difficulties, and that would explain the rating here. In any case, with how I play, it works perfecly and is super unique, corrupting half the map instead of conquering it like all the others is super original and so extatic.

No way, ogres are way worse than dark elves and vampires. Very different list than I expected

Im super new to RTS games and Warhammer on top and so far Im super impressed by the amount of races and the unique ideas with most of them. Customizing your Daemon based on which gods you earn favors with, destroying and pillaging and then leaving the ruins to dust with Skarbrand or becoming the Oppenheimer of Warhammer with the Skaven are such fun and original things that even if any of the races becomes my least favorite or personally not the best, I'll find a way to enjoy them all.

Brettonia is hard to get the ball rolling but once you get the economy going and unlock grail knights nothing can stop you especially with the new update. Doing a louen campaign atm and full stack of grail guardians and hippogriph knights destroy multiple stacks of anything.

Vampire Counts on 21. You sir, are drunk.

I dont know why i keep watching these because i dont have a pc and everytime i see one of these i want to play tww3 even more

CATHAY turn 50-70 very hard and you have entire Cathay under you and can spam armies because you can just keep them in the great bastion with its 75% upkeep reduction bonus. They are way better then the Empire or Kislev. Terracotta sentinels are one of the most cost efficient large units loosing pretty much only too arachnarok spiders not even speaking about celestial crossbows which are one of the best ranged units in the game. and they have good garrisons which empire does not, nor kislev. Great bastion is super op mechanic for leveling your charachters in turn 100 you can have at least 6 lvl 50 lords. And for the Emperors grace Nurgle should be the last spot.

Been waiting for this video from you, thx Colonel

Dark elves is one of the strongest race in the campaign you can have unlimited money and so many armies

Dark Elves lower than Dwarves or Empire is kinda crazy to me ngl Also both Dwarfs and Empire being top 10 is crazy

I always wanted a strong Norscan faction. I know it is not (even close) the same, but Archaon to me has a Norscan feel to it. He is what Norsca would be it they were over powered.

Rev crystal bastilodons alone make lizardmen top 5. You need at least 2 in every army they are just so essential and so powerful. Lord Kroak's Deliverance of Itza III is also one of my favourite spells in the game. In a campaign as Kroq-Gar I was hiring level 49 heroes by the end of the game and my cap was in the 30s. Super powerful and fun armies. Is their Geomantic web a boring mechanic? Absolutely! But stomping opponents to death with giant dinosaurs just scratches that primitive itch in my brain.

After 3.1 Dark Elves slaves got a massive boost. Charfs should hide in shame for how good DE is with "volunteer" workers. ATM this video come 6h ago while update like a day or more. Probably Colonel didn't have time to check things. Dark Elves slaves are so OP i didn't even think about saving them, not only i have positive income of "workers", but any larger battle will give me slaves for at least 10 turns.

I played Norsca recently and TBH you did them pretty dirty haha. I loved how quickly I became a monster in my campaign; they snowball early very easily and then you get so many fun quest battles that most factions only have one or two of. The hunts are so much fun and I think they're worth being in the middle just for those!

I love so many factions. My ranking also changes all the time. At the moment I just love the Warriors of chaos... Valkya, Archeon etc Also, pretty much on the same level is Cathay. Then I put Vampire Coast, Dark Elves, Vampires, Kislev - Kata specifically and N'kari.

The beastman are literly the strongest faction in game, by a mile and a half, 1: they get stronger with more battles, so harder difficulty jsut buffs them 2. They can win the game and burn half the world by turn 60 3. There encampments are hidden making them near impossible to destroy

I remember playing as the dwarfs in warhammer 2 for the first time the scaven conquered basically the entire southern part of the map. They would not stop ambushing my army’s and dwarfs don’t do well in an ambush. So I gave up in disgust and switched to the vampires. The scaven don’t like fell bats or Vargheist’s 😎 also “what’s that? you have ambushed me. Why thank you for starting so close to me “.

Daniel at 19 seems extremely lenient, considering how slowly he gains access to those demon units and what little mechanics they provide. He essentially carries the campaign for the first dozen turns or so.

Great stuff my man...thanks...

That’s actually crazy to me that you have the vampire counts at 21…they have to be top 3 for me, by far…

I have to strongly disagree on Bretonnia, the lack of supply lines even when other factions get it at 4% is such a massive bonus. They also get spell casting lords which again is a massive bonus over factions that don't. They also have a very effective army, the peasant economy can be ignored if you go industrial and even then they have so much more money then other factions.

Ironically, in my Dark Elf campaign, the Norsca are nearly all that’s left besides the Lizardmen and the Chaos Dwarves. They own everything to the North. No Empire, High Elves, Vampire Counts, or other Dark Elves left.

I genuinely recommend any new player avoid tier lists, especially this one as it’s not a fair representation of which factions are genuinely good or not. Take kislev for example.

Sad to see my Lizard Mans only barely breaking the 50th percentile. Oxylotl is really fun once you crush Tzeench.

You young whippersnappers have no idea how long the skaven have been a nightmare in Warhammer. I still have the occasional nightmare about "Shadow of the Horned Rat".

thanks for this video! Legenoftotalwar led me here and I couldnt be more pleased.

This is one of the more unique rankings out there. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're definitely not right.

Beastmen can also buy items from the dread shop, meaning that you can buy good items and combine them into powerful items early on. Troll hide, blue armor, gives strait up .2% regen for any lord or hero as an example

This list made me realize how dynamic this game is, even a weaker faction like brettonia can be viable and very fun to play.

Ogres should have a meat mechanic that works like Skarbrand blood host. You can use it in a pinch to get 25% extra movement range after the battle. Or use meat to fill your movement bar before end turn. Bretonnia need a hedge knight Lord so they have a way of getting trophies for killing large monsters. Specific monster trophies can be used to buy banners or turn limited buffs for your army. That would be a lot of fun. Good for Alberic especially. Norsca need Fimir legendary Lord if there is one. Dark Elves need a mechanic that gives them a massive buff to slave output when they take over high elf territory. Bum rush the high elves then take over the world.

Cathey, Kislev are about to get launched into top 10 when the next dlc comes out and will probably fix a lot of what you mentioned. Great Video!

Skaven are still ok in the early game just buy 4 plagueclaw catapults. They are your key early on and can hold their own quite long allowing you to focus on sorting out your economy and development.

I'm not sold on the Chaos Dwarves yet. I didn't really enjoy having to manage the Dark Elves secondary currency, so you can imagine how I feel about managing 4 of them.

Norsca should have a mechanic that protect the razed settlements from being colonized again so that you actually accomplish nothing in your war (beside building some totem lasting less then a cat in a highway)

There are books to retrieve as tomb kings if i'm right... It pushes u out of desert, also some tomb kings spawn east, and north west of map

With Drycha, she’s basically wood elves for people who don’t like micro - since she uses tree spirits a lot and less the elf units

I like how you confuse Factions with Races. It should be titled every Race in Immortal Empires Ranked....

Been trying to start a Vampire campaign (Mannfred) recently but even on standard difficulty its just impossible. Within the first 5 rounds at least three neighbour factions declare war for no reason and immediately send full stacks at me which I cant beat by any chance. The early units you have, skellies etc, have absolutely no skills and even though I can replenish my armies kinda fast after a battle the enemies, including non-undead factions do it at the same speed. When I send out a hero to discover the map pretty much each new faction I find declares war. The dunekings in the north kill the other vampire faction with one single battle and take my first city one round later with a full army. When I attack them with my faction leader I lose so many troops that I barely do any damage to them. Meanwhile the empire in the west attacks me as well with a full stack full of armored knights which beat me affordlessly even on vampire corrupted territory. It pretty much goes like this: full stack enemy attacks - I lose because only weak units - enemy still has full stack - next city lost - enemy keeps marching - capital lost - end of campaign.

10:15 I died lmao 😂

Oh, I’ve got some problems with this list. Imma have to do my own

Very good-excellent ranking, yes-yes !

Nakai is probably my favorite campaign in the game. His army is strong which is nice, but I like that the horde and vassal mechanics he gets just means all I have to focus on is having a good time purging the map of the more evil factions

Very good video

Very nice! However, not sure if you are aware 😅, but there is a typo in your text. For Vamp Lords, there is an unnecessary “2” before the “1” in the number. 😅

From watching other KZfaqrs play I’ve been trying to figure out how you all did that control icon at 24:27 I know it was a group but that + sign looking icon how?

Wood elves: number one, they're friends with the Lorax (real lore I swear) and they speak to the trees, as well as for the trees

High Elves are particularly fun with Intrigues at Court if you're into incorporating allied units. It's easy to gain solid defense alliance/vassals from many different cultural types, and mix their units into your ranks. I've got armies with Empire, Cathay, Kislev, Lizardman, Bret, and even Dwarf (though that was a good trick) units padding out the monstrous, artillery, and gunpowder deficits in High Elf (plus, it's just crazy fun mixing in some infantry and cavalry for variety, even if they don't benefit from your red line skills - all my armies are pretty unique). Most of them hate each other and even me, but between Influence points and being a gold-giver, it's not that hard to hold things together and become a global hegemon.

Might be a tad biased but i don't agree on slaanesh, at least on the part about their seductive influence mechanic being a gimmick, being able to subjugate a really strong faction means you get a massive income and a meat shield, meaning you don't have to care about defending that area. And since n'kari gets a massive buff to his vassal income it's very viable to rely on vassals for income

I remember in a vampire count playthrough I had one unit of about 13 skeletons that were literally the ONLY unit that survived the first 10 turns in my army from the start, so I called that specific unit the damned 13th and they were the mascot of my army... Until Franz completely annihilated them from existence with two steam tanks, some cav charges, and quite a bit of clashing with swordsmen.

Kislev, Dwarves, and Empire making it into the top 10 is nuts

I mean, with brettonia Repanse de lyonesse spawns between Settra, Arkhan and Arinessa, so survival on that end is a matter of how many questing knights you can stuff into your main army within 10 turns before Arkhan gets hungry or Settra is done with Volkihar's shit

There is a mod that turns the Tomb Kings into an A-tier faction. With rune like mechanics. They've always been a favourite of mine because I like the idea of a morally grey army of the dead. Khalida much prefers killing vampires to killing the living.

Dark elves got massive buff right after this upload. Maybe not the best idea to release this right before a patch lol.

Can you exchange units with one of ur chaos dwarf caravans when u play their campaign?

A trend that seems to be popping up is that CA may be a hit or miss when they release a new race (either in base games or dlc) but man do they know how to do a rework.

Slaanesh is really fun in battle, once you figure out the flanking tactics. But their campaign is super frustrating.

Tomb Kings have the best economy in the game. Money number just goes up.

The ONLY thing that keeps Imryk from being top 3 is probably just his location. Late game I don't think any other lord can really touch him and he'll literally steamroll with a doomstack army. The limitation is that there are a lot of cheap army enemies around him, so you end up playing a lot of whack-a-mole for a long while. Get an alliance with dwarves and add Iron Drakes to his roster and it's flat-out sick what he and his army can do given that the enemy is all going to be flammable.

First time looking one of your videos. I feel like I know your voice. Are you the voice in Total War campain showcases ? Nice tierlist

Cant believe you put dwarves higher than VC.

Love the reference with the loud greenskin intro lmao

I’ve played Total War since Rome 1, including the whole Warhammer series. I bought all the DLC for WH1 and 3-4 pieces for WH2 (e.g. I did get Tomb Kings, but not Vampire Coast). The nickel-and-diming definitely started to wear on me, but I haven’t been tuned in to the shitshow at all in the past year. I passed on WH3 at launch and I haven’t touched any of the saga games, so no Pharaoh. So, I guess I was on a Total War hiatus for a couple years there, but purely out of circumstance and not because I was actively involved in drama. Anyway, I finally grabbed WH3 like 5 months ago when there was a big sale, and I’m just now getting around to consider playing it. So I’m watching a few videos to get input on what faction I want to play first. I got to your top 3 and they’re all interesting and cool. I’m not spending $25 on Chaos Dwarfs before even playing my first campaign. That leaves Grom and Ikit, and I’m like, “I better go check if those are DLC lords/factions.” You can tell where this is going, they both are and I have neither. And I’m just like… could there be a more perfect encapsulation of what’s going on with CA and Total War right now. I just want to play the fucking game and try a faction that I saw looked cool in a video. 🤦‍♂️

What about new path and DarkElves changes? Gamplay is with slaves cap so before the patch 😊😊

Gonna have to agree with Skaven at #1, but definitely not because of Ikit Claw. Yeah, he's strong. Yeah, his faction mechanic is op. But rattling gunners function perfectly well without infinite ammo. The real rat at the top of the food chain is Deathmaster Snikch. His recruit cost increase is a non factor after a small time and the positives... well. First of all, not having to worry about loyalty is already so good. But the shadow deals are just busted and the ability to delete any faction every 100 turns (basically twice in any decently long campaign) is the single most broken thing ever.

Lokhir has an awesome campaign imo, all those rivers to sail up to take cathay

I would argue Dark elves are S tier races right now with 3.1, fixed a lot of your slave drain problems and you can insta build building like the chaos dwarfs.

Me waiting to Norsca to get a rework so I can play as them. I love Chaos Factions

Tbh I love dark elves now, I used to think they were trash but now im loving them, the slave system works better now and you dont have any control issues, really fun to play at least for me

The problem with the Empire is... I had games without enough Imperial authority gaining situations, while I was bound up in wars for survival, preventing me to gain by doing missions and fighting against enemies who take territory of the electors

Have any of these lower ranked factions gotten any buffs / better since this video , like vampire counts or dark elves

Dark elves with the buff to slave are now utterly broken lmao, im just instant building walls in every damn city I conquer in a turn, I can recruit shades T2 as Malekith and just steam roll early and mid game thats outrageous

I thought vampire coast would be a bit higher i once found a build that let me made necrofexes upkeep like 85% so it would be more expensive to upkeep corpses than literal gun titans And also Crabs

14:50 OMG YOU KILT THEM 😱😱😱

I’d love to see some type of new bretonnia vs Norsca DLC that overhauls and buffs both factions. They are both fun to play but very limited options compared to newer factions.

5:00: 'half-baked' It's called 'Tartare'.

Playing empire right now and I really enjoy blowing armies to kingdom come with hellstorm batteries

Norsca has amazing units and not weak at all what are you on about, we got stuff like the mammoth units on rank 1, and the mammoth units on rank 2, the mammoth units on rank 3, the mammoth units on rank 4, the mammoth units on rank 5, the mammoth units on rank 6, the mammoth units on rank 7, the mammoth units on rank 8, the mammoth units on rank 9 or if you feel brave, The Great Mawherd of Bloodfjord Mammoth RoR or if you feel extra spicy there is the Soulcrusher Mammoth RoR.

Cathay did trading first, kind of a misrepresentation to say they don't have anything interesting just because chaos dwarfs stole it later...

I'd love it if the ogre kingdoms got a good boost and got their best units. I'd love to see the bruiser as a melee hero varriant and maybe a maneater captain as a customizable lord variant. Thunder tusks and yeethees would be awesome and a new legendary lord like golflag maneater would be awesome too. I'm convinced Bragg the gutsman would be a better legendary hero than a lord so I'd settle for that. Some units from gnoblar country would be cool too.

How did Nurgle not rate last on the list, let alone higher than the Tomb Kings?

Haha, i got to number 2 and had to think "who is left to be number one?" Of course, I'd forgotten about the Skaven, just as they wanted-planned.

Ikit claw can kill many man-things with warp stone nuke-nuke yes-yes!

I just started a campaign as Hellebron to see the fixes to her mechanic as well as the new slave updates and I think the biggest struggle is their lack of magical damage early on now that it’s such a necessity vs demons, and starting next to Valkia makes you have to really kiss her ass and pray she focuses someone else until you can build up.

Didn’t the dark elves just get a big buff?

Also, Imrik is still the strongest LL in the game at max level. He is literally unkillable after a certain point. He doesn't even need late game units In his army. He will kill any other LL so fast it's basically like they weren't in the battle.

For me, my top 3 is Dwarfs (The Slayers…all of’em.), Chaos Dwarfs (Versatile Ranged Inf, Armored Wolves, and Arms Dealing), and Empire (Volkmar’s Free Company Militia doomstack with 360 degree shooting mod).

Wood Elves are way too low. Easily top 5. Id also easily put High elves above Kislev and the Empire. And I do feel you let Ikit carry the skaven a bit much. But i also have a grudge against them bigger then any Dawi. Legit forgot they were a playable race till halfway through. They will always be the enemy to me.

On what difficulty does he play?

What exactly did you rank?

I hope CA will release a Dark Elves DLC or at least give us some additional units and a reworked slave mechanic

Norsca honestly need a rework and a full, large roster update. Just a rework won't cut it. They need at least 2 new legendary lords, 2 or 3 new generic lords, more heroes including legendary ones, a full mechanic update, new unit variants, more Fimir units (and maybe a Meargh lord or LL) and Throgg needs access to every other troll variant in the game (maybe even some new ones, like boulder throwers). The faction is so cool but is one fifth the size it should be.

A weakness of the skaven seems to be the autoresolve. Apearantly the AI underestimates how strong masses of cheap troups are. So as long as your army has a lot of clanrats or slaves you have to fight all the battles yourself. Wich is okay for my but should be mentioned.

Woah very different to my order, haha :D

I will ALWAYS be loyal to my boy Grimgor.

I dont know if this was just a bug i experianced when i first played the Kislev intro campaign but i could never use the unit stats screen to determine how powerful a unit was becouse the stats shown cant possable have been correct. First time i tried i got stomped by the Khorne story battle as i just did it to early. But after building up the army the stats was out of control for some units especially the more dedicated ranged units. Even though i almost exclusivly put points into the yellow skill line for the lord my basic ranged bow Kossars hade a melee attack of 95 for some reson. By the end of the campaign every basic bow Kossars outclassed even the Tzar guards in every single stat for some reson except armore.