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Columbia Re-Entry Analysis

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This video combines video taken across the USA during the fateful Columbia re-entry with data from NASA regarding the shuttle's sensors, communications, etc. Details the entire re-entry event from start to finish. Extremely interesting and sad.
Please visit the website in the end credits for more information.

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@venorahare8213
@venorahare8213 Жыл бұрын
I live in Amarillo, Tx. I can see Rick Husband's childhood home from my back yard. The family lived on the next street. The Amarillo International Airport was named after Astronaut Rick Husband and has a huge statue of him. He was a wonderful man, so sad.
@afghanvet2009
@afghanvet2009 3 жыл бұрын
I had the honor to work for Captain Brown early in my Navy career when we were based in Fallon, NV. He was a commander at the time working as a flight surgeon and in conjunction was also working on a classified program. I was a young sailor at the time, fresh out of Intelligence Specialist tech school. Captain Brown made an immediate impression on me. Not only was Captain Brown the most intelligent person I’d have ever met, he was also one of the nicest, polite, humble officers I had ever met. Captain Brown took me under his wing and taught me so much in such a small amount of time. I worked for him for a year and half or so. I vividly recall watching him work on his application for NASA. I asked him about it one day and I remember he was hopefully optimistic about his chances. He was an amazing human being who had a tremendous impact on this world. He is truly missed. God Bless
@mikedineen7857
@mikedineen7857 Жыл бұрын
I was a young NAVY corpsman way back in the day and had wonderful mentors.
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@herdsire90210
@herdsire90210 8 жыл бұрын
Ignoring the corporate factor for a second: Space is never without risks. And this crew knew this. But they still dared to endeavour, and for that I take my hat off to them. Dare mighty things.
@ogrebattle22763
@ogrebattle22763 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely put comment...
@OffTheBeatenPath_
@OffTheBeatenPath_ 6 жыл бұрын
The shuttle program was a total fail
@pjneslo8979
@pjneslo8979 6 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't...How the hell do you figure that? It did everything it was intended to do with the exception of losing two shuttles!
@vanlitespeed693
@vanlitespeed693 6 жыл бұрын
John Smith cheezie
@plenkman
@plenkman 6 жыл бұрын
you could say they *dared to columbia* haha.... ha.... oh
@chrisjoosten9819
@chrisjoosten9819 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible syncing and editing of the footage here. THANK YOU for enlightening and educating the general public on this tragic event. At least we can learn from it, as we will undoubtedly continue to fulfill our natural desire to explore and evolve.
@WillArtie
@WillArtie 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting although it hurts me too watch. Got a story about this. Not much of a story, but anyways.. I was living in Melbourne, Australia at the time and watched them go overhead as a beautiful bright constant-motion star a few days, or the day before(?), prior to the re-entry. I had a few friends with me, and I told them that I could take them outside to see the shuttle, and they thought I was crazy, and that I couldn't. (They weren't really 'spacey' people...), but of course I had the heavens-above website to tell me exactly where and when, and my friends were so impressed and excited when I told them to look to a place in the sky, then I did a count-down, and there it was!! Kind of dim at first then getting very bright as it arced overhead. We were waving and calling at it (which was silly of course, but we couldn't help ourselves...), but it was so fascinating and magical thinking there were people in that star!! A day or two later a was crying in my bedroom when I heard the news. Looking back on it I didn't think that it would affect me that much, but I found myself being very upset. I went and visited my mum and told her that I was upset, and why, and starting tearing up again, and seeing me cry she started crying too! The only other time that has happened was when my father died suddenly - so it was kinda weird that we were crying over this astronaut tragedy. I think if I hadn't have seen them going over that night, I wouldn't have been so upset - but somehow I had manifested some sort of emotional investment in the whole thing. In a weird way I felt like one of the last people on earth to see them, and wave to them, and be excited about their adventure, although I know this wasn't, and isn't, true. Many, many people would have done similar things all across the globe. I am a little apprehensive now when it comes to hearing about plans for more adventurous manned spaceflight. I know we go up to ISS regularly with crew swaps, but bigger things are on the horizon - I still hope! God/Universe speed and protect all those brave people putting themselves on top of so much fuel and enormous controlled releases of fire, thrust and energy, to be hurtled through the atmosphere and space at speeds, pressures and temperatures no human body was remotely designed to endure without a cloaking layer of technology from the brightest minds our race can conjure. Anyway, sorry for rambling, just that this vid brought that all back & I hadn't really looked back on that episode for a while in such detail, so I thought I would share. Cheers & love to all.
@timpren
@timpren 6 жыл бұрын
Really emotional reading your account. Thank you for putting into words what so many felt that week.
@danix454
@danix454 6 жыл бұрын
It's very sad, and I feel for these brave men and women who died doing what basically no one else will. The thing is, unless we have these accidents, we can't learn... it's how humanity has achieved the greatness it has. Thank the brave for their role they play... they were put here for a reason.
@P1nkR
@P1nkR 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good story bro, tell it with pride. Just a couple of days ago I was out with the missus and we waved at the ISS passing above us on a beautiful star filled night. Only when you feel like you can see them with your own eyes do you actually realize those people are just men and women like you and me.
@jannipper66
@jannipper66 6 жыл бұрын
I understand. It hit me hard when the Challenger exploded on live tv. Felt helpless.
@willythewave
@willythewave 6 жыл бұрын
Andre Gulbis That was so beautiful and thoughtful man. Such an honest and heartfelt comment. Thank you for sharing brother. "In a weird way I felt like one of the last people on earth to see them, and wave to them, and be excited about their adventure, although I know this wasn't, and isn't, true. Many, many people would have done similar things all across the globe." I beg to differ Andre...You WERE one of the last people on earth to see them, and they are in your memory and had an impact on your life such as your story has on mine. They live on in your memory as well as the rest of us that know, or care to remember. I wish you nothing but happiness, peace prosperity and good health Andre. God bless you my friend.
@jfloresmac
@jfloresmac 5 жыл бұрын
Today is 2019. This is the first time I get emotional about it. I guess this new perspective changes everything. This is so in-your-face. It is unstoppable and unavoidable. This brings you right there...
@Addy-745
@Addy-745 4 жыл бұрын
@roger peet I know right! Roger I think what is more sad is his writing, he should get emotional about that.
@chrischristian5288
@chrischristian5288 6 жыл бұрын
All the debris gave off sonic booms.. it shook me out of bed and rattled the windows. I'll never forget it.
@sgleaso
@sgleaso 5 жыл бұрын
Heard it, too.
@Akeldama9
@Akeldama9 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a bit of physics that people don't really think about. When you have a single object moving faster than the speed of sound & it becomes multiple pieces, each piece is still blasting through the air at incredible speeds.
@dks13827
@dks13827 4 жыл бұрын
Where were you ?
@ronnieholt3863
@ronnieholt3863 4 жыл бұрын
I could feel it deep into my chest from 52,000
@paulaward6764
@paulaward6764 4 жыл бұрын
My family and I live in Tyler, Texas about 100 miles east of Dallas. My dad CLAIMED he heard the shuttle explode over his house.
@SleepyTimePuppy
@SleepyTimePuppy 5 жыл бұрын
For those interested, there is a museum in Hemphill, Tx. It is about what the searchers found and compiled on the ground, and how the community came together and helped. It also has info on the shuttle and the astronauts.
@paulaward6764
@paulaward6764 4 жыл бұрын
My family and I live in Tyler, Texas about 100 miles east of Dallas. My dad CLAIMED he heard the shuttle explode over his house.
@inex4431
@inex4431 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulaward6764 HE probably did alot of people did so im 99% sure, He Did...
@simonbone
@simonbone 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulaward6764 There was a sonic boom for sure, as there was on every re-entry.
@deadlysquirrel5560
@deadlysquirrel5560 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, we had a lake house on Toledo Bend. We were in Shreveport when this happened but as I understand it they recovered some of the debris in and around Toledo Bend, both on TX and LA side. And that's like 170 miles east of Dallas.
@burdburd2787
@burdburd2787 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Dallas and fully remember hearing the LOUDEST noise I've ever heard in my life. I had one large window with a crack from corner to corner after the sound.
@Ralph2
@Ralph2 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know why I even watched this except to salute those poor brave astronauts who perished on this fateful mission. God rest their souls. I remember it like yesterday,
@turnthepaigebrooklyn2951
@turnthepaigebrooklyn2951 4 жыл бұрын
Why people insist on volunteering for the government and their twisted experiments is beyond me. If those who decide going up in space is such a science boon and enrichment for mankind then send them up...They can’t or won’t perfect the fine details then nobody should need to suffer for it.
@kurtbilinski1723
@kurtbilinski1723 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing "no commonality" in multiple failures must have given the engineers chills, because it means that something seriously bad is happening.
@potatofuryy
@potatofuryy 3 жыл бұрын
Well they knew what was happening, they knew a piece of foam hit the left wing.
@TheWholeGrainBread_Real
@TheWholeGrainBread_Real 3 жыл бұрын
@@potatofuryy they didn't worry about it because it happened multiple times before. It wasn't until they did the investigation that they found out the foam caused a 7 to 10in hole in the left wing.
@rikvermar7583
@rikvermar7583 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWholeGrainBread_Real They knew, the foam strike was spotted days after the launch - NASA bosses even said NO to a fly bye satellite which could of took pictures, and worse kept the suspected damage a secret from the astronauts so not to worry them
@dare-er7sw
@dare-er7sw 2 жыл бұрын
@@rikvermar7583 Even if they knew a rescue in time wouldn't have been possible. To repair the tile on the wing the astronauts would have to build a human chain holding hands and probably the legs of the astronaut near the wing who would repair the damage on the wing and probably put heat resistant fabric in the gap with some glue or other items to hold it into place. It would have been very very risky. Maybe they could then have safely returned home. Could they go to the space station, did they have enough fuel? I think it dumped its fuel in low earth orbit as it was not needed.
@rikvermar7583
@rikvermar7583 2 жыл бұрын
@@dare-er7sw the photos they took using the Canada arm couldn't quite reach the damaged area - literally 2 or 3 tiles more and it would of seen the damage but (with hindsight) there is 1 photo where u can see a slight discoloring near where the damage was - if only they could of seen just that little bit further or even got one of the astronauts to do a space walk just for a visual but NASA already decided not to tell them so either way they were doomed
@JMChladek
@JMChladek 12 жыл бұрын
That also jives with what I heard from some residents in Sabine County where elements of the crew cabin ended up. It all kind of merged into a prolonged roar. It is still amazing that no debris killed anybody on the ground. I heard of one screw that got pulled from a house as recent as 2008. It drilled through the roof and a box of papers in an attic before lodging in the floor of the attic. The damage wasn't found until the house was getting a leaky roof fixed.
@jamesarmstrong6008
@jamesarmstrong6008 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Amarillo, Texas. I wasn’t working that day and I remember being outside and seeing the debris trail as the shuttle passed overhead. I knew that wasn’t normal. I made it back inside, in time, to see the report on television, that the shuttle had been lost.
@mike89128
@mike89128 4 жыл бұрын
In 1977 At Kirkland AFB, New Mexico, I took an aviation safety course. The instructor was a Col. Stevens, recently retired. He reported to Chuck Yeager at the Air Force Safety Office while on active duty. Many times the colonel would talk about the shortcuts being taken on crew safety as the Shuttle was being developed. I remember him telling us there were going to be lives lost in the program. When Challenger went down, his words echoed in my mind, and were confirmed again by Columbia.
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 4 жыл бұрын
Well it's commonsense that lives will be lost. Lives are always lost in exploration. Yeager said as much on TV in 1986 in response to being asked about the Challenger. He wasn't interviewed again. It's not something the American public wanted to hear.
@notNajimi
@notNajimi 5 ай бұрын
@@druidriley3163I think there’s a difference between expected losses in the course of exploration and accidental losses due to poor craftsmanship
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 5 ай бұрын
@@notNajimi Challenger wasn't lost due to poor craftsmanship, however.
@RickyPisano
@RickyPisano Жыл бұрын
The tire pressure was the clincher.
@josephastier7421
@josephastier7421 5 жыл бұрын
This is well put together, and is still a good watch many years later.
@mtlassen1992
@mtlassen1992 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure by the time the astronauts realized how bad it was, it was over in a flash. I doubt there was time for pain or panic at all. I think about each one of them every time I see a photo or video of their smiling faces. Each one was a person, with families, friends.
@sammencia7945
@sammencia7945 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Some of the debris trails are astronauts ejected into the Mach 15 slipstream. It would be instantaneous loss of consciousness followed by cremation.
@pepinillosazucarados6743
@pepinillosazucarados6743 3 жыл бұрын
@@sammencia7945 😆
@ministrydrummer
@ministrydrummer 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammencia7945 the debris trails are from parts of the shuttle.
@karenparikh4045
@karenparikh4045 Жыл бұрын
How beautifully written
@ww2planes_810
@ww2planes_810 Жыл бұрын
@@sammencia7945 Either fortunately or unfortunately on your view, it wasn't a complete destruction of the human body. Multiple people who participated in the search reported they found human remains, the largest being 2.5 feet in length.
@rainbowwriter672
@rainbowwriter672 4 жыл бұрын
When he says: Where is that instrumentation located? You can almost hear him thinking: Don’t say left wing
@bubwal23xifan
@bubwal23xifan 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he knew about the foam strike and that worry was in the back of his mind. I could just imagine that he got a pit in his stomach when they said it was on the left wing. All he could do was hope for a miracle
@brenantube5802
@brenantube5802 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Newman is the communication we are listening to about the temp sensors between mission control and the shuttle crew? I can’t tell who is communicating what. Is the shuttle telling mission control the different systems that are failing or is mission control telling the shuttle ?
@bubwal23xifan
@bubwal23xifan 4 жыл бұрын
@@brenantube5802 it's from the flight director to one of the guys in mission control on the MMACS (also known as max).
@almostfm
@almostfm 4 жыл бұрын
@@bubwal23xifan Especially when the flight controller said there was 'no commonality" between all the sensors. If there was, then the common piece would probably be the cause, and they would probably be OK. But no commonality means there's a larger problem.
@darreno1450
@darreno1450 4 жыл бұрын
Those 4 temp sensors going offline in succession was the first clue, and you can tell from the tone of his voice he knew the situation was not good.
@randywilliams324
@randywilliams324 3 жыл бұрын
Watched it from my back yard in North East Texas. I'll never forget the sadness I felt when i realized what i was seeing
@codyking4848
@codyking4848 3 жыл бұрын
DId you know before the news told you? I'd imagine so, seeing all the contrails and fireballs. That had to have been absolutely heartbreaking.
@christopherthorkon3997
@christopherthorkon3997 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Hurts to watch but very highly detailed and helps us to understand what happened on that tragic day.
@mjanovec
@mjanovec 18 жыл бұрын
There was expected to be a little communications problems with that portion of the re-entry. Also, the Shuttle crew does not transmit continuously. By the time the crew knew they were in trouble, they had no ability to communicate to the ground or, even if they did for a brief moment, they were probably too busy trying to get the Shuttle under control. Mission Control seems calm because they are trained to remain calm and watch the data on the screens.
@Jamesfoofighter
@Jamesfoofighter 3 жыл бұрын
This is it - NASA didn't know what was going on - they can only see data - not the actual re-entry, though I read somewhere that NASA has footage of the shuttle during the whole re-entry
@Finkletonian
@Finkletonian 12 жыл бұрын
dirac is right. Ever since challenger they had a ridiculous amount of cameras watching every launch. The cameras picked up the foam strike and the managers saw it. They ignored it because they assumed foam wouldn't be able to damage the carbon-carbon panels on the leading edge of the wing (the c-c panels were extremely durable).
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao Жыл бұрын
Not just they ignored it. There's nothing can be done. The pick the more optimistic option of give it a try than let the astronauts die in orbit ...
@scottparish
@scottparish 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done and explained. Thanks for posting this video along with audio timeline.
@budree4240
@budree4240 4 жыл бұрын
The despair in their voices. They knew immediately. You know the sounds of all the alarms that were triggered. And ground hasn’t been able to contact them since the beginning of the video
@johnn1del2
@johnn1del2 8 жыл бұрын
Very sad. Thanks for compiling this material.
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 5 жыл бұрын
NASA tested large portions of foam in the lab and couldn't find out how it could crack and wrongly suspected the technicians of having applied it improperly. Then when a shuttle launch was cancelled, they found that the foam when applied on the scale of the external tank and treated as a single gigantic piece, begins to crack when they loaded the cryogenic propellants into it, caused by the shrinkage of the tank itself. This was only possible to observe when an entire tank full of propellant was subject to the temperature changes. NASA then apologized to the technicians. NASA had come very close to a similar disaster in STS 27 when hundreds of tiles on Atlantis were damaged following impacts from pieces of SRB insulation at 85 seconds into the flight, similar to Columbia. One tile was broken off, and were it not for a solid steel plate at just that spot, Atlantis could have broken up. The Commander didn't think they could make it back with the damage. He was infuriated by NASA's attitude and planned to tell them what he thought in case his sensors began to fail and instruments indicated Atlantis was going to disintegrate. Looks like NASA didn't learn from the lesson (not that they could have done anything for Columbia, but it's just their dismissive attitude towards known problems). They forgot the high standards they set for Apollo. However till the end NASA never quite managed to resolve the problem of the foam shedding.
@christiansoto9755
@christiansoto9755 4 жыл бұрын
Some problems don't have solutions or have solutions that cause bigger problems. This could be one of them.
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 4 жыл бұрын
@@christiansoto9755 The Space Shuttle unlike all the capsule crafts that flew before it, was a huge spaceplane that had to be mounted on the side of the tank. The biggest weakness was that the crew cabin had no escape abort modes whatsoever and the complexity of it and other compromises to payload wasn't going to let that happen. Had the module been able to detach and reenter and parachute back to earth like all other rocket systems, at least the astronaut's lives could have been saved.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they (NASA) perished and was usurped by the private company SpaceX. Private companies are universally more competent than publicly-funded, because accountability is REAL in the private sector. This is why capitalism will always be better than socialism. Capitalism only rewards WINNERS, not losers like Larry Mulloy and his boss who killed 7 Challenger astronauts due to ego brought about by knowing public funds are gauranteed. At least they thought so.
@alexpearson8481
@alexpearson8481 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. 👌
@JohnnyAngel8
@JohnnyAngel8 2 жыл бұрын
@@robloxvids2233 That reasoning is flawed. Businesses are accountable to stockholders; government programs are accountable to voters. Time and again, the government outperforms private enterprise when it comes to safety, accountability, and regulation. Edit: the push for profit has caused more heartache than the push to save tax money.
@BethBlairCarmichael
@BethBlairCarmichael 8 жыл бұрын
Still gets me when I see this... such brave astronauts.
@turnthepaigebrooklyn2951
@turnthepaigebrooklyn2951 4 жыл бұрын
Blair Carmichael: More foolhardy then anything else. Sending anyone up when the correct process of getting there and back hasn’t been perfected in each and every way possible is totally moronic. Those running these programs are no smarter then your typical drug addict except their addiction is to throwing money away that they don’t have. Then refuse to use or have god given common sense. Like clueless children without supervision.
@scottfarner5100
@scottfarner5100 4 жыл бұрын
I remember turning on the tv and for first few seconds trying to understand what I was seeing.
@Dan-ih7jb
@Dan-ih7jb 8 жыл бұрын
Well put together. Great video analysis.
@ChrisJ-mf7cj
@ChrisJ-mf7cj 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I remember this day horribly. I was manning the AFN Radio News main boards in California. Our thing was to always break coverage and broadcast each shuttle launch and land. One of the tv techs was a huge space junkie and knew when the shuttle would be overhead and that I’d have 3 minutes to get to the board to do the switch. So we stepped out on the loading dock and sure enough there it was. Only the tech gasped and said “oh that shit isn’t right, this one’s bad bud. Get in there NOW!” We has been getting NASA beeps and suddenly it stopped. We held normal programming and several of us listened to the other feed forever it seemed until the off air signal was given and tv news popped up. Just broke us all. All being military and retired military. Just hurt.
@likka3823
@likka3823 Жыл бұрын
:(......seems like yesterday. As life does.....R.I.P.
@NeuroDeviant421
@NeuroDeviant421 3 жыл бұрын
.Flight Director Leroy Cain denies that he ever considered the possibility that the instrumentation drop out was in anyway related to the suspected damage to the orbiter's heat shielding. I don't believe him. He acknowledged being briefed on the issue but it wasn't considered a "safety of flight" issue as there was no direct evidence of damage and the team dismissed it, still, it would certainly have occured to me, I can't imagine that it did not occur to him.
@jameswillson8814
@jameswillson8814 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts are with the crew of Space Shuttle Columbia who forever will fly among the stars. Rest In Peace
@jennydow741
@jennydow741 11 жыл бұрын
Scotland the Brave was the wake-up call on the day of re-entry for Laurel and her Scottish heritage. I was watching the NASA channel live that morning. Laurel thanked mission control after the tune. It sounded like she was crying. The bagpipes of that tune sounded a little haunting. One usually associates them with formal events such as holidays and funerals.
@kimpritchard4322
@kimpritchard4322 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the McDonald's drive through when it happened above us in Texas. My hubby was at our Rent house painting when I went to grab breakfast. He heard the Boom and ran outside thinking I crashed his truck. Brings back memories of the 1986 space shuttle explosion. Bad memories. I feel for the families devastated by these losses.
@davidca96
@davidca96 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really good combo of the footage people had taken and timeline, still makes me real sad especially seeing the first debris, knowing whats happening and how no one knew for several minutes until they were already gone in an instant.
@JIMJAMSC
@JIMJAMSC 5 жыл бұрын
At approx 2:00 after receiving the first sensor problems and were on the left wing, the director knew they were dead. He was privy to the knowledge that it had taken the largest foam hit of any orbiter and this was both the location and the time at which if it were going to fail it would. He knew at that time it did.
@ShadowriverUB
@ShadowriverUB 3 жыл бұрын
No, anomaly is not proof vechicule is lost, infact he ask quastions about that anomaly, so no he dont know what was going at that point
@joemoment-o1275
@joemoment-o1275 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowriverUB so they can't just turn off the big rocket?
@levi4979
@levi4979 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true, the director later pointed out the second he realized that there might be a connection, which was during com checks.
@wallofrock6725
@wallofrock6725 Жыл бұрын
I think the FD was still somehow holding out hope for a miracle until the guy sitting behind him received reports of witnesses of the Columbia disintegrating. Once the FD was informed, it took the wind out of him literally. I probably would have had a heart attack.
@julieritt
@julieritt Жыл бұрын
@@joemoment-o1275 There was *no* "big rocket" - or any rocket - on reentry. The rocket got them into orbit. To get back, they slowed down a bit and dropped out of orbit. From there, the atmosphere slowed them down. All the fiery-ness is simply the ridiculous speed of the spacecraft running into more and more air molecules, and those molecules being smashed apart. In short, the Shuttle returned to Earth as a glider with no power. They had one shot to land - and *only* one shot.
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 8 жыл бұрын
In a book on the space shuttle, the last chapter that talks about the breakup says that in an interview with the engineers, they said that because the density of the air is so low up there, the crew would never realize it if the left wing was damaged, or even FELL OFF entirely for several minutes after reentry until the drag became significant and then it would all be over in seconds. The only clue would be a trail of sensor failures. And that was eerily the case till the end. Considering all that, the shuttle flew like a champ till the very end.
@rattiegirl5
@rattiegirl5 5 жыл бұрын
In fact, if the audio is in fact correctly matched up with video, the crew kept talking normally when they were breaking apart. The shuttle is in pieces when Husband calmly states that they lost the shuttle 's nose.
@rekunta
@rekunta 5 жыл бұрын
I’d like to believe their death came mercifully quick, but think they probably had enough time to realize what was happening. The shuttle was probably going bonkers and it’s instruments and alarms lit up like a Christmas tree long before it began breaking apart.
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 5 жыл бұрын
@@rattiegirl5 at what time exactly in the video does Husband say that? Thank you.
@rattiegirl5
@rattiegirl5 5 жыл бұрын
@@theresaakins2317 Yes. Correction, it was "nose gear".
@bldn10
@bldn10 4 жыл бұрын
At around 7:30 he reports loss of nose gear AND right main gear. What I don't understand is that that is AFTER the narrator says that Columbia was spinning out of control. Surely they would feel that. And at that point, even if it did not break up, they'd know that surviving a belly landing would be unlikely. But he is still cool as a cucumber.
@JMChladek
@JMChladek 17 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, multiple sonic booms were heard over Texas as the pieces descended low enough in the atmosphere to generate booms that could be heard. It apparently sounded like a crackle. Good video footage combining. I've seen similar, but this is the most elaborate.
@ionia23
@ionia23 11 жыл бұрын
Based on the g-forces present in the spin, their rate of travel, and so forth, they would have had at most a few milliseconds before being physically ripped apart. It was over virtually immediately for the astronauts. They didn't suffer, take some comfort in that.
@kristiansvendsen6906
@kristiansvendsen6906 4 жыл бұрын
And they probably got knocked out by the extreme g's beforehand
@malenatully
@malenatully 4 жыл бұрын
Horrible death, being ripped apart by the G force. You think the Astronauts knew that you as it for them? God bless their souls.
@sstevenson5014
@sstevenson5014 4 жыл бұрын
That's probably true, but it's also likely that at least the two astronauts that were at the controls knew for at least 60-90 seconds knew that there was something going terribly wrong with the shuttle and figured there was a good chance they were going to die.
@mickywanderer8276
@mickywanderer8276 4 жыл бұрын
@@sstevenson5014 Perhaps but they didn't panic. Just probably hoped it could stay together long enough for them to bail out.
@mickywanderer8276
@mickywanderer8276 4 жыл бұрын
@@malenatully No, Challenger's was bad. There is every possibility that the crew blackout from the loss of pressure but during the 2 minute fall they could've woken up and been aware of what was happening. Astronaut Mike Mullane is pretty sure that was the case.
@craigusselman546
@craigusselman546 5 жыл бұрын
The kirkland afb pic is incredibly creepy you can see the damage 3 minutes later gone.
@stevendaniel5649
@stevendaniel5649 5 жыл бұрын
All these years later, it still gives me chest pain to see............
@shawni321
@shawni321 5 жыл бұрын
From info provided, I hope and pray their deaths were quick and painless. The violence of the shuttle once it loses stability and starts to end-over-end is shocking when you think about the speed with which they were traveling. My guess is, the concussion itself would be enough.
@chrisstehlin5873
@chrisstehlin5873 5 жыл бұрын
It was early in the morning ( I believe on a Sunday). My roommate and I were heading to work in the Grand Canyon. He pointed out out and said “what is that?”. All that we could see is a orange flame. It went from west to east (skyline to skyline) in a minute or so. I’ve never seen anything that fast. I said it must be some sort of military aircraft. That thing is fast whatever it is! We got to work and he came out of his office a hour or so later. He said it was the space shuttle and everyone died! I wish we had cell phone cameras back then but it’s etched in my mind like a video.
@terryporche8745
@terryporche8745 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t a Sunday.
@travistaylor5000
@travistaylor5000 3 жыл бұрын
This tragedy happened on a Saturday.
@loriannkeele4328
@loriannkeele4328 Жыл бұрын
Saturday
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 4 жыл бұрын
This woke me up that morning. The whole Earth shook as she went over. Can't believe it's been this long.
@nickv4073
@nickv4073 6 жыл бұрын
5:40 sounds like Columbia radioed "feelin the heat". Chilling.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 5 жыл бұрын
No it's not normal, the crew is in climate controlled pressure suits. He was not referring to the actual crew feeling the heat. He was implying that the ship/structure was having an issue. The damage that the Kirkland AFB showed to the left wing makes it clear that an experienced Commander would know something very bad was happening. Most likely he was seeing the elevon trim starting to build up (in order to stay on course, the right had elevons would have some extra deflection to compensate for the damaged left wing) and also was probably noticing that the RCS jets were firing more than expected trying to stay on course (as the ship comes back into the atmosphere, the RCS jets become less and less effective) Some of this was seen by the FIDO (Flight Dynamics Officer). He mentioned that they were "processing drag". This was mostly due to drag from the rapidly deforming left wing.
@kpatcharette21582
@kpatcharette21582 4 жыл бұрын
I gave the the 5:40 thru 5:46 points a good listening too, someone indeed says rather quickly, “Feelin' the Heat,” the voice sounds more disembodied then it does Human. It reminds me of an EVP(Electronic VoicePhenomenæ).
@KrikZ32
@KrikZ32 4 жыл бұрын
@@kpatcharette21582 Nah it's a person, you're actually insane if you think this is spirits contacting nasa
@jnichols3
@jnichols3 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think that was literally what they meant at that point. I think it was just a comment on what they saw.
@ArchangelExile
@ArchangelExile 4 жыл бұрын
@@KrikZ32 lol
@catguta
@catguta 12 жыл бұрын
@JMChladek, I was in Alvarado, just south of Fort Worth. At that point, the multiple sonic booms were not crackling, but a prolonged,very loud, thundering and ground shaking, boom. It has to have been multiple pieces and probably traveling at multiples of the speed of sound. We thought it was an underground seismic test as we heard and felt many times before from a nearby Halliburton facility, but it lasted much longer-- and was a Saturday. Rattled the dishes and windows all the while, too.
@thesundog8833
@thesundog8833 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I couldn't remember what day that had happened.
@PassiveSmoking
@PassiveSmoking 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect that your timing might be a bit off at the moment of actual breakup as it wasn't quite that abrupt. According to the survivability report the vehicle remained largely for about a minute after loss of communication, whilst pitching up to about 90 degrees and entering a flat spin. Recording equipment aboard Columbia continued to operate for the entire period and there was an additional burst of telemetry data after about 40 seconds (this was not passed to the MCC due to checksum errors in the data but it was logged at the receiving station). The cockpit detached about a minute after the last communication and that was the point where the major breakup occurred. We know the crew were alive and concious for this period because some switches on a control panel were found in a non-normal configuration when the control panel was recovered. The crew had been trying to start hydraulic pumps to get control of the vehicle back.
@SpenserRoger
@SpenserRoger 4 жыл бұрын
Woah
@bobbarker3248
@bobbarker3248 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you're not reading about the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster? Sounds like the control panel information came from the Challenger disaster.
@wilkatis
@wilkatis 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that cockpit part is from Challenger. The G's Columbia would've been pulling there upon that spinning / disintegrating would at the very least immediately knock everyone out if not kill them outright.
@TigerWoodsDUIcrash
@TigerWoodsDUIcrash 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong space shuttle bro. You're speaking of the Challenger Disaster when they were in a free fall. This vehicle disintegrated and pretty much mangled their bodies. They didnt have the ability to do nothing but sit there and take it.
@TigerWoodsDUIcrash
@TigerWoodsDUIcrash 3 жыл бұрын
Downvote this guy
@HailAnts
@HailAnts 2 жыл бұрын
From the moment they first heard they'd lost those four sensors everyone in mission control knew why, and they were all thinking the same thing, "please let it last, please let it last..."
@jrockett73
@jrockett73 11 жыл бұрын
Information about the crew was kept quiet out of consideration for the families. The association of certain items was not published so people could not associate them with what went on in the crew module. The info about seat belt and suit performance was released mostly because it was a big surprise to those involved. Most people dont even know the crew module (what came back from it) was reconstructed in 3D behind the scenes for years after the accident.
@SleepyTimePuppy
@SleepyTimePuppy 5 жыл бұрын
There is a museum in Hemphill, Tx that has a lot of info. It was set up as a memorial in the community where so many civilians searched and salvaged pieces of the shuttle and astronauts. The community helped in so many ways. They tell there how what percent of the craft and the human remains were recovered. In a respectful way, of course. It dispels a lot of myths that surround this tragedy.
@JSFMD
@JSFMD 5 жыл бұрын
"Feeling the heat" at 05:44, then it's almost one minute before breakup. That must have been one minute of hell.
@pip12111
@pip12111 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt when the tires exploded it blew off the left wing
@bigmart932
@bigmart932 4 жыл бұрын
Although it probably wouldn't have been hell (because the Columbia explosion was abrupt) it definitely wasn't normal; shuttle temperatures were controlled by both climate control in the shuttle and in their spacesuits. They didn't normally feel the heat of reentry. Unless, of course, they were using it to express they were stressed.
@csababorbely3453
@csababorbely3453 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigmart932 im not sure they can feel via air heated, they can feel via the radiation (you can also experience this eg. when in the cold you feel a fire heat on your face, however you are meters from it). so they felt the radiation, not the air heated up...whatis interresting in the transcriiption this part is marked as "illegible text" which is nonsense...
@pup2000
@pup2000 4 жыл бұрын
probably over inside the aircraft in a few seconds ,...
@dks13827
@dks13827 4 жыл бұрын
No, I am sure their visors were not sealed, so the instant vacuum would have ended it in an instant.
@mrzorg
@mrzorg 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I am a grown man, and cried that day.
@kx8960
@kx8960 Жыл бұрын
I was working for NASA (the first time) at the Glenn Research Center near Cleveland then, we watched the launch in our breakroom, watching the NASA feed, seeing stuff the public doesn't. It was the first time I'd seen that and it was WAY cool. Little did we know what was to happen. I remember being outside washing my truck when my wife (now X) poked her hear out the door and said they'd lost the Columbia on radar. I said losing the shuttle on RADIO is normal during re-entry. She said no, she thought they said radar. I told her if they HAD lost it on radar, it was because it didn't exist anymore. I dropped the hose and ran inside, and to my dismay and great sadness, saw the fiery pieces re-entering the atmosphere. There were some VERY sad faces the next work day. I remember the Challenger disaster as well. I'd only been into my career 3 years, and as a contractor for the Navy we were all at our drafting boards, listening to the radio while it was launching....until it came apart. Another sad day, some of the girls started crying, everyone was stunned. These are 2 or many events I'll never forget. RIP to the brave men and women of these 2 spacecraft, and Godspeed to them. EDIT: Here's another thing: When I worked for NASA at Glenn, I spent some time working with the 1x1 (foot) supersonic windtunnel, and got to see a test at Mach 3+ I think it was via the Schleiren optics (allows you to see flow and shock waves - WAY cool!) and at even those airspeeds (nowhere close to 16,000mph), the instant there is any sort of major flaw in the aerodynamics, the airflow tears it apart instantly. When the superheated air got into the wing it tore apart the aluminum, which had already been severely weakened by the overtemps and it was all over but the pieces tumbling down to earth in a fiery halo. I remember in the test, seeing a tiny piece of the stainless steel tape that they use to cover the tiny gaps between the parts fluttering in the wind so fast it was just a blur. It was tiny and was getting a little bigger when one of the techs mentioned it. It still wasn't very big at all when it suddenly....just disappeared! I whipped my head around from left to right instinctively trying to follow it's path when the entire room erupted in laughter at me. They said: "First time, right?". The guy looked at me and chuckled and says everyone does that the first time that happens. Because you don't realize that, unlike, say tossing a piece of paper out of a car window, the airstream is moving so fast, the human eye can't detect its movement down the tunnel. Thus, it just appears to disappear. It was a humbling experience, but way cool.
@terry1919
@terry1919 18 жыл бұрын
that was indeed a very sad day for the space program... I was at work in Montgomery Al....and when a co worker told me of the tragedy... I did not Believe her... RIP Columbia crew
@jrockett73
@jrockett73 11 жыл бұрын
Of course it doesnt say it. You saw that on one of my other comments. All 7 helmets were recovered. The failure point on 6 of the helmets was below the ACES suit helmet ring. In other words 6 of the helmets still had the ACES helmet ring attached to it meaning it was on and locked. Mr. Browns did not because he was talking on what we call a hand held mic that should be stowed for landing. If he had his helmet on, he would not need the mic. He was video taping the middeck as an avid photographer
@ivymike3459
@ivymike3459 Жыл бұрын
That’s horrific. It’s difficult to comprehend that this may have been avoided if later inspection procedures were in place on this mission. In space, nothing should be taken for granted.
@drdrew3
@drdrew3 Жыл бұрын
The damage occurred at liftoff. Retrospective analysis determined there was no way to repair it in space given its location and the materials needed. Nor could they send another shuttle in time or reach the space station. They didn’t plan for this scenario because all the previous foam strikes were inconsequential. In hindsight everything seems obvious but when engineering in real time you often learn from your failures.
@gertieshaw90
@gertieshaw90 6 жыл бұрын
I always explain this accident to kids like this: So you cross a busy highway 106 times and you don't get hit by a car therefore it must be totally safe to cross a busy highway. That's the thinking behind foam hitting the shuttle. It caused no catastrophic incidents so it must not be a safety issue.
@julieritt
@julieritt Жыл бұрын
See also: "The faulty o-rings have issues we don't fully understand and their failure would cause the loss of shuttle and crew. But they've held for 24 missions - so it's all good!" For any space geek worth their salt, Challenger and Columbia were the same disaster. They were caused by the same issue, merely expressed in a different way.
@JWC-AirWalker
@JWC-AirWalker 10 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Thanks for putting all of these together.
@CC3GROUNDZERO
@CC3GROUNDZERO 7 жыл бұрын
He didn't. He stole the video.
@yxeaviationphotog
@yxeaviationphotog 4 жыл бұрын
7:14, there is a big puff, that has to be when the Columbia came apart. The single trail turns into multiple trails, just seconds later. Prior to that, there is a large piece of debris that comes off. That was probably the left wing.
@codyking4848
@codyking4848 3 жыл бұрын
Left wing is visible coming off just before that moment. supposedly the big flash was the engine/thrust assembly coming apart, as there would have been fuel and hydrazine in the lines that would have flashed off as the assembly came apart and the residual fuel in the lines came into the superheated stream.
@yxeaviationphotog
@yxeaviationphotog 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyking4848 Interesting observation. I'll have to re-watch it.
@195511SM
@195511SM 4 жыл бұрын
I was still in the process of moving from one apt. to another, and so hadn't moved any big furniture over yet. Had my TV though.....along with my sleeping bag, where I spent the night on the floor. When I woke up, I think the networks were replaying footage. This was in northern CA.....which I don't the shuttles typically cross over when landing. But a year or two earlier, there was a rare, early morning flyover. The original landing site was changed due to weather or something. I'd just arrived home after a late night shift....& heard the shuttle was scheduled to pass over at around 4am or close to that. So I waited around in my carport for a while.....but not really sure of what to expect. I was just about ready to give up....thinking I must've missed it. All of a sudden....there it was. As I recall....it looked like the orange glowing tip of a cigarette.....larger than what I expected & easy to see. What I thought was a contrail....I later heard was a plasma trail.....that never expanded outward, but just hung in place like a long while rope, expanding from horizon to horizon. As soon as the shuttle was out of sight to the east.....I ran upstairs & turned on the TV. That thing was already on final approach over Florida.
@paulsummers2640
@paulsummers2640 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's calmness is unbelievable.
@perfoodleschnitz
@perfoodleschnitz 18 жыл бұрын
seeing it fall apart, and have a piece fall on your roof, is grim.
@egyptson9428
@egyptson9428 6 жыл бұрын
listened to the radio break up many times with my eyes closed...pattern sounds just like an extended car crash.
@vampsith
@vampsith Жыл бұрын
Man, I remember being in the beach in Indialantic, Florida. They were super late and the thought of them not coming back didn’t even cross our minds
@jstoli996c4s
@jstoli996c4s Жыл бұрын
It’s Feb 2023, and I believe this is the oldest video on KZfaq I’ve ever seen 😳 RIP to the Columbia crew 🙏
@mickywanderer8276
@mickywanderer8276 6 жыл бұрын
I think the pilots at least knew there was something wrong. They were experienced enough to know that she wasn't handling 'right'. Nothing they could do about it though.
@bloodytears4you
@bloodytears4you 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the aircraft was compensating for the changing dynamics in the damaged wing, which is why the shuttle appeared normal, however the RCS thrusters soon reached their maximum do-all, and then the shuttle took a tumble, ripping everything to reeses pieces.
@glynnisclark639
@glynnisclark639 4 жыл бұрын
bloodytears4you - Also, at this point in the flight the computer is still on auto-pilot. The crew was /not/ controlling the shuttle at this stage. They were monitoring the computer systems, tracking it through the re-entry, but in terms of feeling the “handling” through the controls, as with an aircraft’s stick or a helo’s cyclic, no.
@rts100x5
@rts100x5 5 жыл бұрын
I was at home in Longview, Tx ....a very loud low frequency boom and the whole house shook - I thought 2 trains had collided at the rail yard nearby....
@ericf7063
@ericf7063 7 жыл бұрын
Something Richard Feynman said during Challenger's investigation. "When you engineer something to perform in a certain way and it does something that was unintended, such as O ring blow by or in this case, falling foam, you have a problem". Both of these issues were well known before anything happened.
@magicstix0r
@magicstix0r 5 жыл бұрын
The Shuttle was the deadliest spacecraft ever created and NASA never worked to fix that.
@larsonwells2656
@larsonwells2656 5 жыл бұрын
Feynman died in 1988
@magicstix0r
@magicstix0r 5 жыл бұрын
@@larsonwells2656 Your point? Challenger happened in 1986.
@jennydow741
@jennydow741 11 жыл бұрын
Page 1-19 of the SCSIIT report:. "The normal sequence for strap-in is to attach the lap belts to the crotch strap first, followed by the shoulder straps. Analysis of the seven recovered helmets indicated that this same crew member was the only one not wearing a helmet. Additionally, this crew member was tasked with post-deorbit burn duties. This suggests that this crew member was preparing to become seated and restrained when the LOC dynamics began."
@JMChladek
@JMChladek 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I've been to Alvarado a couple times, so I am a little familiar with the area. While I wasn't living in Texas when Columbia broke apart, I have a reasonably good idea what it may have been like seeing those contrails and hearing that rumble (not to mention the recovery efforts that took place in the weeks and months after that). I still take time to reflect about it on the anniversary dates.
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 5 жыл бұрын
It may sound a little off to some, and I'm not mitigating the tragedy whatsoever, but I can think of no way I'd rather go than a space travel-related incident. Space travel is one of the best things that our species has ever accomplished.
@kylebieth3678
@kylebieth3678 4 жыл бұрын
I can see your point...but 1 problem. At least with challenger when it went they were so high up they would have lost consciousness instantly and not been aware of the long fall into the sea, but these guys knew there ship was breaking up around them and had plenty of time to feel the terror of what was about to happen. I doubt any positve thoughts were going through their heads as the interior temp began to soar.
@JA-SF2TX
@JA-SF2TX 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylebieth3678 I never thought about it in those terms but inflight terror must have been unbearable. 😖
@jakobfeitzinger9587
@jakobfeitzinger9587 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylebieth3678 actually, some of the challenger crew stayed conscious after the breakup, for at least 10 or more seconds, as the cockpit was likely not rapidly, but slowly decompressed. 4 emergency air packs, which had to be manually activated, were found on the bottom of the ocean, one being unused and belonging to Scobee. Two of the three used packs could not be identified. The third belonged to Smith. Either Onizuka or Resnik, who sat behind Smith, must have switched on his emergency air supply for him. On Columbia, the orbiter broke apart almost right away and the cockpit was quite rapidly decompressed, making all crewmembers unconscious, they were then killed by their bodies being violently shaken with no restraint.
@kylebieth3678
@kylebieth3678 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakobfeitzinger9587 i was not aware of that emergency pack fact, thanks. And on Columbia, yes when it happened it was quick, but they knew it was going to happen. You can hear in recording that they mention temp increase. They had a few seconds at least to be aware of what was about to happen
@Redman680
@Redman680 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebieth3678 A temperature increase is quite normal, given the heat at re-entry. The likeliest scenario for that comment is the crew seeing the superheated gases outside the windows. Rick Husband's last msg "Roger, uh bu....." was calm & businesslike. The crew likely found out the severity of the problem right when the engines lost control of attitude & yaw. Mercifully, the end would have been very quick.
@jennydow741
@jennydow741 11 жыл бұрын
The report stated that none of the astronauts lowered the visors or turned on the emergency oxygen. They likely went unconscious quickly due to cabin depressurization. Even ten seconds would be enough time to lower a visor. Leading up to depressurization, the crew was still controlling switches with dexterity before they went unconscious, indicating that forces were probably a few G's or less. They probably weren't being seriously injured by high G's or gasping for breath during that time.
@dinogirl7466
@dinogirl7466 2 жыл бұрын
I was traveling south in New Mexico and saw it break up and fall to the earth. Very horrifying, I knew immediately what had happened. R.I.P.
@thesundog8833
@thesundog8833 3 жыл бұрын
"Roger, the...." Anyone that messes with Kerbal space pc can attest.
@noahdavidson8733
@noahdavidson8733 2 жыл бұрын
He said “Roger, uh, b-“, and the inflection of his voice seems like he was responding to Houston’s report on their tire sensors, probably saying “Roger, uh b[oth]•
@imapaine-diaz4451
@imapaine-diaz4451 5 жыл бұрын
They were doomed from the time of launch, and didn't know it. Even if the shuttle hadn't broken up, due to the damaged flight controls, as soon as aircraft flight mode was entered, they wouldn't have been able to control it and would have just spun in and crashed.
@codyking4848
@codyking4848 3 жыл бұрын
This is false, and was disproven via simulator many times. Had Columbia held together for just 20 more seconds past max heating, they would have survived, albeit with degraded control having lost the left inboard and outboard elevons.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 2 жыл бұрын
@@codyking4848 The shuttle was already in "aircraft flight mode". It had been doing aerodynamic S turns to bleed off speed since before it crossed the California coast. And they never said they lost the inboard and outboard elevons. They lost the hydraulic temperature sensors for the elevons because the cables for those sensors passed through the area near the leading edge of the wing where the burn through started.
@ebenclukey7293
@ebenclukey7293 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching. Once I saw multiple streaks I knew.
@MJLeger-yj1ww
@MJLeger-yj1ww 5 жыл бұрын
It is always sad when pioneers in any endeavor lose their lives, but most people who risk their lives, are well aware of the risk they are taking and they choose to do so. Many pioneers have lost before, from traveling in a wagon train to the West or on high mountains or in deep oceans. Let's just hope it doesn't happen again, but the odds are that it will. But they are very brave and deserve honor and our respect. I imagine it is very difficult for everyone who works on these projects to have something fail and lives are lost; they will remember it forever. But mankind owns the human mentality, so they keep pursuing the impossible. They probably always will.
@lastmanstanding2622
@lastmanstanding2622 5 жыл бұрын
M.J. You took the words right out of my mouth. You are absolutely correct.
@johnwyoder
@johnwyoder 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how often I watch one of these replays, I am filled with sadness for this mission and crew. They were doomed from Day #1.
@Vox-Populi
@Vox-Populi 4 жыл бұрын
I was driving from Charlotte to Atlanta that morning with my young children in the car, when the story broke on NPR. We all knew the gravity of the situation and listened and talked and prayed. We were held captive by the humanity of it for those four hours. Makes me sad to think about it.
@Vox-Populi
@Vox-Populi 2 жыл бұрын
@HAMMERHAND indeed. Today they would tie it to Trump somehow.
@rxw5520
@rxw5520 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to NASA Mission Management Team Chair *Linda Ham* for canceling the plan for imaging of the wing while in orbit without consulting the Debris Assessment Team. Had imaging been allowed, options could’ve potentially been explored. They had food for 30 days, which could’ve been stretched to double that in a life and death situation. Plenty of time to attempt a rescue with Atlantis. But we’ll never know cuz they lacked the balls to even try, in deep denial and fearing what they’d see. Had this been the NASA of the Apollo-era, back before they went completely flaccid, all possible information and imaging would’ve been gathered asap and every attempt would’ve been made to save the astronauts. But somehow we went from steely eyed missile men to hollow, self-preserving suits with empty briefcases and miles of red tape in only one generation. And it’s not me saying all this, it’s the analysts from the investigation. Columbia rescue would’ve been potentially the greatest moment in American space history, rivaled only by the first lunar landing.
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 7 жыл бұрын
What a lot of people dont' know is the foam did break apart from the shuttle and the shuttle was going so fast it slammed upwards into the foam..instead of the foam falling down into the shuttle wing.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 6 жыл бұрын
your wrong. The foam was blasted down by the wind into the leading edge had nothing to do with speed of the shuttle except for the windspeed. The foam came off and hit a few feet later--everything was moving at the same speed. The shuttle was not capable of instantly accelerating in a few feet to hit the foam-you have it backwards.
@BluntForceTrauma666
@BluntForceTrauma666 6 жыл бұрын
No, you're BOTH wrong. And right. Kinda. About different things. But this?: "the wind into the leading edge had nothing to do with speed of the shuttle except for the windspeed" - WHAT does that mean? The "windspeed" has EVERYTHING to do with the "speed" of the shuttle - they are the same, except in opposite directions. The piece of foam weighed nearly two pounds and detached from the tank near the front attachment strut. The distance from that area to the wing was something on the order of 40 feet. The instant that foam detached, it began to rapidly decelerate because of the wind drag (big irregular shape that no longer had five rocket engines pushing it) and it slowed down enough that the still accelerating shuttle impacted it with a closing speed of over 500 mi/hr. Gentlemen, _that_ is the proper way to discuss science. Using clear language, numbers and facts. Not by using words like "slammed" and "blasted". Don't do that...makes you look like dumbasses.
@hdtv00
@hdtv00 5 жыл бұрын
BluntForce you are 100% correct, and ya even have the impact speed correct when it hit the wing.
@grouperkng1
@grouperkng1 5 жыл бұрын
Standing ovation for Blunt force!
@johnrogers9481
@johnrogers9481 5 жыл бұрын
Eric. The foam piece didn't break off the shuttle and hit the shuttle.! As said, it came off the large fuel tank the shuttle was bolted to. That it was 40 feet higher, up on the tank, into the wind it impacted the shuttle wing at 500 mph. The brittle piece of insulation mostly shattered to dust but managed to break a hole into the leading edge of the left shuttle wing. I am amazed that shuttle components inside the wing were not damaged by this event. The crew went on with their work as normal for the whole mission and the shuttle functioned fine.!
@Universe198025
@Universe198025 5 жыл бұрын
I have no doubts that such possible tragic disaster was foreseeable by engineers at the early stages of project development. Of course I'm not an expert in building spaceships, but could it have been technically possible to construct within a spaceship a separate crew cabin in a shape of sphere also covered by a protected layer, for example like the re-entering Soyuz capsule? During the take-off and re-entering phases ( before the landing itself ) there's no any crucial need for crew to observe anything through the illuminator, so they could have been put safely into this sphere capsule and could have passed the most dangerous flight phases inside it. In a deadly case scenario like this such capsule could have been able to save the crew's members lives.
@almostfm
@almostfm 5 жыл бұрын
Was it _theoretically_ possible to design a totally separate "survival module"? Sure. But it would have been far more complex to engineer and weighed a metric crapton, and weight is always a critical thing with spacecraft. The shuttle wouldn't have been much use if it had been so heavy that it couldn't carry any payload.
@Universe198025
@Universe198025 5 жыл бұрын
@@almostfm Disagree!!! I'm sure that it was practically achievable if only NASA engineers were allowed to implement all safety mechanisms they had intended to realize in such project. There were probably as always in such big project some decisions from the top NASA managements, Congress and etc. who always search the easiest way to accomplish the project as soon as possible with minimum funding even at the expense of safety! Technically speaking, it's not so much more complex as you're trying to depict. And of course shuttle project might have existed with such safety separate crew capsule, there's no doubt about it!!! All technical difficulties that were necessary to be resolved were within the reach of engineers' capabilities even at that time! I guess there's no need to tell here how to solve the problem with an extra weight from such crew capsule!
@almostfm
@almostfm 5 жыл бұрын
@@Universe198025 " I'm sure that it was practically achievable if only NASA engineers were allowed to implement all safety mechanisms they had intended to realize in such project." Actually, they looked at this possibility after the Columbia accident. The engineers decided it would be too heavy and too complex without starting all over with a clean sheet of paper. You'd need some way to control a possibly tumbling survival capsule-the propellant tanks for the thrusters were in the rear of the orbiter, so you'd need a separate fuel supply for that. You'd need to add batteries to the survivable capsule, because the fuel cells that provided electrical power were back in the payload bay. You'd need to add additional heat shielding, because you couldn't be sure how it would be oriented before the thrusters took over. And you'd need to devise a parachute system for a capsule that would be twice the weight of the Apollo capsule. You'd need an uprighting system in case the thing came down in the water and some way for the crew to get out and survive in that situation-when it would be very unlikely there would be any recovery forces nearby. I'm not making this stuff up. Those were some of the issues the engineers looked at.
@Universe198025
@Universe198025 5 жыл бұрын
@@almostfm Of course I was talking about the implementation of such safety mechanisms at the early stages of the project development!!! I guess no one would ever have imagined that such drastic alterations could have been possible after the 2004 disaster when the destiny of the shuttle project had been already decided in the White House! But initially, from the blueprint stages, I have no doubts that if there had been enough time and resources for engineers they could have definetely come up with the technically reasonable solutions concerning such back-up safety mechanisms!!!
@mcdanielashley521
@mcdanielashley521 4 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, that’s exactly what the Apollo spacecrafts had and they even still had trouble (see, Apollo 13).
@TestTubeBabySpy
@TestTubeBabySpy 8 жыл бұрын
Ive worked for nasa during the apollo era. we spent billions making sure every weld was microscopically flawless, every screw, every impeller, every tube, every casing, every bulkhead crafted with surgical precision. our contractors reported the weights of every component down to the microgram. after apollo1 we redesigned the cm and reworked the lm and sm. every material was evaluated, procedures re-written, numerous cm's that were already in advanced production phases were scrapped, we changed everything from the switches down to the goddam interior paint coating. who would have thought we'd be brought down by foam...FOAM! the shuttle was an engineering disaster, hidden if front of the world. they barely had a test program. every hard lesson learned during apollos development was ignored. jk
@jnichols3
@jnichols3 6 жыл бұрын
I heard a story that in the early days when NASA was trying to get funding for the shuttle, Von Braun publicaly supported it, but privately felt very different. The story I heard is a reporter (I forget his name) who covered NASA and knew Von Braun well attended a bon fire at a beach party that Von Braun was at. He saw Von Braun down the beach alone staring out to sea with a drink in his hand. When the reporter walked up to him he noticed that it looked like Von Braun had some tears in his eyes. When asked what was wrong he said, "This thing (shuttle) going to kill someone". At that time the lunar program was over. We would not be going to Mars. There was Skylab, but we were only using up surplus Apollo/Saturn hardware and there was little chance for a second station. The shuttle was the only thing that we would have in the way of a manned program, so it was that or nothing. Do you have any insight into what the real feeling was in NASA about the shuttle? What I have gleaned from what little I have read about that time is that NASA did not want a large shuttle, but something smaller just to ferry astronauts to an advanced large station (more like we now have), and they wanted to leave large payloads, and satellite launches to expendable rockets. Instead of a car NASA had to use a dump truck, because congress would fund only one program that would also have to launch military payloads. Let us know your thoughts. Thanks.
@mudchair16
@mudchair16 6 жыл бұрын
I have no opinion on the matter. Regards.
@terrywaters6186
@terrywaters6186 5 жыл бұрын
@@jnichols3 Ironic the father of the V2 shed tears because the shuttle program was going to get someone killed.
@kyokogodai-ir6hy
@kyokogodai-ir6hy 5 жыл бұрын
@@terrywaters6186 Those V-2's were made during a war. The shuttle program was not (unless you include the Cold War).
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 5 жыл бұрын
Brought down by people at the top not the workers
@rawhydemusic8620
@rawhydemusic8620 Жыл бұрын
I lived an hour south of Dallas and I had been watching this on NASA TV. I heard several large booms that shook the windows of the house and then not too long after hearing on NASA TV about them losing all instrumentation and everything I immediately knew what those booms were... That was a very very sad day....
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 9 жыл бұрын
Also, Im gonna call "bullpoop" when the controller claimed there was "no trim showing up." There had to be elevon trim building up as the ship started having to fight all the excess drag from the left side of the vehicle. Commander Hoot Gibson mentions "elevon trim" when talking about STS-27. ATLANTIS took a hit down its right side from cork coming off of the right hand SRB nosecone. It did severe damage to the tiles. The crew saw this when looking over the bottom of the shuttle with the RMS. The ground did not get clear photos due to the encryption requirements of the DoD mission (just one more reason the military has no business being on a civilian agency spacecraft). The ground discounted the crews concern. Commander Hoot Gibson assumed they would not make it, and said that if he saw "elevon trim" starting to come in, he would know that the ship was fighting drag and probably going to break up, and would have used the last moments before death to tell the ground exactly what he thought of their engineering analysis. The Atlantis survived and NASA took precisely the wrong tact. Instead of being horrified by the tile damage, they saw the damage that the shuttle survived as a chance to loosen up the rules even more.
@bbigjohnson069
@bbigjohnson069 6 жыл бұрын
There probably was trim but the sensors that read it were malfunctioning just like the tire pressure sensors and the hydraulics.
@PassiveSmoking
@PassiveSmoking 6 жыл бұрын
The trim was probably still within expected parameters at that point, the data they got back from the salvaged MADS/OEX and the recovered telemetry that wasn't sent to MCC due to checksum errors indicate that the trim deflection only started to go wildly out of expectations a few seconds before hydraulics were lost and the elevons moved back to a neutral position. This happened after MCC stopped receiving telemetry.
@penroc3
@penroc3 6 жыл бұрын
the roll and pitch up apparently went to plan(with in limits) but i wonder if the long pauses are them talking on a different audio loop or something it was obvious as soon as the temp sensors went off line and them having no common links to fail like that other than a massive failure
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 6 жыл бұрын
And every controller in that room was thinking "foam hit the left wing and now the left wing is going bat shit crazy, can't be a coincidence"
@hdtv00
@hdtv00 5 жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that since the tech was 60's and 70's they weren't aware the computer was making corrections in flight fighting the bad wing. It wasn't modern at all and not capable of relaying that type of data. Things they only learned after the fact from data which they analyze after a flight. From wreckage and data stored on board. Something along those lines. The only reason the roll and pitch maneuvers went off correctly was computer was doing on the fly corrections we were unaware of totally at the time, at least on the ground. I'm not sure if the crew knew.
@jerrypolverino6025
@jerrypolverino6025 Жыл бұрын
I always felt the Space Shuttle was right on the edge of disaster every time it flew. It was oversold and it undelivered.
@corytc5095
@corytc5095 4 жыл бұрын
God bless their families still today 2019. Such brave people
@efraim_x
@efraim_x 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@benjamin_markus
@benjamin_markus 12 жыл бұрын
omg around 2:50 you can hear the interference caused by the separating debris in the radio transmission
@GeorgiaOverdrive
@GeorgiaOverdrive 4 жыл бұрын
And at 5:40 you can hear the crew on radio saying "feeling the heat".
@noahdavidson8733
@noahdavidson8733 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgiaOverdrive I think he’s saying “and uh, Hou-“
@wallofrock6725
@wallofrock6725 Жыл бұрын
Wow - good catch Ben.
@TralfazConstruction
@TralfazConstruction 5 жыл бұрын
"No commonality" except for the now-glaring commonality of it being the orbiter's portside wing. It's heartrending to think of it.
@sarabrown7689
@sarabrown7689 5 жыл бұрын
I always think the same thing when he says, "No commonality". Ummm, yes there is, just not in the way that the flight director meant.
@rcajavus8141
@rcajavus8141 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarabrown7689 he meant it "oh shit, these guys are fried, better start my act for the investigation" or am i the only paranoid one around here
@jeffbrooks8024
@jeffbrooks8024 4 жыл бұрын
That’s thinking on your feet at 12000 mph at 200,000 feet...the accepted speed and altitude at the time of breakup
@Ulfcytel
@Ulfcytel 4 жыл бұрын
He meant electrical commonality, i.e. was there a chance it was a circuit which had failed. Which was obviously not the case.
@TralfazConstruction
@TralfazConstruction 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ulfcytel Understood. I was commenting in the broader sense of what we now know.
@rnichol22
@rnichol22 4 жыл бұрын
When he asks were those actuators are, they know, they bloody know
@generalyellor8188
@generalyellor8188 3 жыл бұрын
English, please.
@TralfazConstruction
@TralfazConstruction 2 жыл бұрын
Masterfully assembled composite of that morning's events and the real-life, high stakes drama playing out just over everyone's heads. The degradation of Columbia's structural integrity was already beyond containment. No smartphones back then as we know them today. I had to wait until a brief break from work that Saturday morning to return a missed call from my father to learn that the Space Shuttle Columbia's mission had ended in tragedy. I told several work associates and we headed to the facility's cafeteria to watch what was being reported on TV (CNN, Miles O'Brien). Once that day's Duty Superintendent grasped the situation and the serious overtones of what had happened our planned early dismissal at 3 PM EST was changed to 12:30 PM EST. I don't believe that anything of any real importance was accomplished at work that day after, say, 11 AM EST that first day of February, 2003. I left an unfiled report regarding six high-value pieces of vehicle computers (BCMs) sitting on my desk which I saw first thing the following Monday.
@jamall3131
@jamall3131 12 жыл бұрын
Linda Ham was demoted after the Columbia accident. She definitely had an attitude problem with respect to her lack of willingness to listen to other people, especially below her. Such an attitude problem can create disasters in the future, even if a previous particular accident has been deemed as unavoidable and not a direct result of someone's attitude problem.
@davidconley3610
@davidconley3610 2 жыл бұрын
She should have been fired and held accountable!
@mikew3494
@mikew3494 5 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace....
@dereksterling2061
@dereksterling2061 4 жыл бұрын
My cousin, who lives in East Texas, found some of the debris in a field a couple of days later. She reported it and NASA did a sweep of that area collecting debris.
@paulaward6764
@paulaward6764 4 жыл бұрын
My family and I live in Tyler, Texas about 100 east of Dallas. My dad CLAIMED he heard the shuttle explode over his house.
@danaj9336
@danaj9336 6 жыл бұрын
"...Columbia goes into uncontrolled flight..." The animation show it tumbling and spinning around, but all the videos do not show such tumbling. What is more likely to have happened when the left wing broke off is that the shuttle flipped over so it was flying backwards and upside down. The upper body of the shuttle was not designed to take the stresses of reentry, and the cargo doors probably broke off in a few seconds , followed shortly thereafter by the breakup of the rest of the shuttle. This is why you also see the three main engines preceding the rest of the debris in the latter videos.
@darkarima
@darkarima 6 жыл бұрын
_flying backwards and upside down... This is why you also see the three main engines preceding the rest of the debris in the latter videos._ Jeez, even I know enough to call horse pucky on this reasoning. (>_
@noahdavidson8733
@noahdavidson8733 2 жыл бұрын
Analysis seems to show that the Orbiter entered a flat spin approximately 5 seconds after the communication cutoff, but that’s hard for me to visualize as you’d think the second the orbiter began to orient askew it would break up, but it held on for approximately thirty seconds post communication loss
@butterfly7530
@butterfly7530 2 жыл бұрын
I hope after 100-150 years and more time..people remember these astronauts, they should remember how much sacrifices had to make to get there. I really hope.
@michaelfitzgerald9502
@michaelfitzgerald9502 5 жыл бұрын
A very cool operational ground crew.. They knew when they lost the first three wing sensors.. Thermal tile damage.. All they could do is think.. Appolo 13 we can make it..
@jrockett73
@jrockett73 5 жыл бұрын
No tiles were damaged.
@michaelfitzgerald9502
@michaelfitzgerald9502 5 жыл бұрын
The heat from rentery destroyed the ship.. How did the heat enter the ship
@jrockett73
@jrockett73 5 жыл бұрын
Through the wing leading edge which is made of carbon-carbon and has no tiles on it.
@michaelfitzgerald9502
@michaelfitzgerald9502 5 жыл бұрын
@@jrockett73 we saw the ice hit that side off the area on lift-off.. From the major fuel tank. No space aliens here.. I never implied the leading edge was damaged.. I'm a nobody.. What is the nasa verdict..
@jrockett73
@jrockett73 5 жыл бұрын
Not ice but foam from the tank.
@jennydow741
@jennydow741 11 жыл бұрын
The depress likely happened in a matter of seconds and likely caused unconsciousness within seconds. The period leading up to depress probably did not cause a high degree of panic or anguish related to contemplation of death. If it had, at least some of crew would have been taking actions to try to avoid or delay death by lowering their visors or turned on oxygen, assuming no very high G's to prevent them from doing so.. Very high G's would have likely knocked the crew unconscious anyway.
@mcdanielashley521
@mcdanielashley521 4 жыл бұрын
Jenny they found some of the switches were engaged as to say that some of the crew was still alive and trying to right the craft.
@sstevenson5014
@sstevenson5014 4 жыл бұрын
The Columbia disaster was the result of NASA taking a chance - which they had done many times before,and hoping the shuttle wouldn't be fatally damaged by a falling piece of foam during the launch. There was several times that the Shuttle's was struck by foam and they never seriously tried to remedy that problem. They didn't learn the lesson of the Challenger disaster and once again became complacent. When Columbia was struck by that 1lb piece of foam during launch, the laws of probability had caught up with them.
@esphilee
@esphilee 2 жыл бұрын
Just like running red lights.
@shannonjaensch3705
@shannonjaensch3705 Жыл бұрын
I question NASAs narrative heavily.
@Marcinex22
@Marcinex22 2 ай бұрын
It's sad when they talk about losing more sensors and meanwhile the shuttle is already coming to Earth in pieces.
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