They helped me learn KOF XV and actually feel useful

I'm currently running through the Xrd combos and none of them have been too hard, finished ram, johnny, I-no, elphelt, Sin, venom and raven and for the most part they haven't been too hard... until I started pot trials, pot trial 10 eludes me, I just wanted to treat my local pot player and I find out the hard way good pot players have hands. GGs pot players Edit: I finished the trial, never again

And the best part of those trials is that they don't even give you a demonstration, if you click the demonstration button it just tells you to figure it out yourself

@@derpybreads2212 "Oh boy, took me a few hours but I figured out a way to get it don-" "Good job on clearing it, want to see a far easier way to pull that off?"

The final trials in Blazblue Chronophantasma are similar, with each character having their own unique requirements, like Ragna's "do a combo that will heal you for 5k", Jin's "do a combo that lasts over 20 seconds, Hazama's "use every Drive attack in a single combo" or Hakumen's "do a ToD".

That's in Xrds Mission mode

That’s in every single combo trial mode released in the last 10 years (not dbfz)

@@malvora really? I’ve played a decent amount and can’t think of any that, for example, have a safe jump as part of the combo trial. Edit: man can’t even keep his statement consistent.

@@absoul112 bro play a single anime fighter that isn’t dbfz and you will see it ROFL

I like how you can setup and share combos in strive but finding specific combos without a site like Dustloop looks damn near inmpossible

Depends on the game some still get a like 8 max but then you have fighterz

@@arandomguyontheinternet2308 faaaax. FighterZ be od with the hits

Bro never heard about KoF

What games are you talking about? lol.

@@rachetmarvel931 FighterZ

shhhhh, he plays Gio he doesn’t understand concepts beyond “damage large??”

Street Fighter 5 sort of got around this by adding in new trials after each major balance patch to show the new stuff the characters could do, and also doing trials from older patches will specifically give you that patch's version of the character, which has it's own issues (not only are the combos outdated but you're learning them with an outdated version of the character) but at least it ensures they'll always be possible to complete regardless of what changes

@@andrew9k424 I get it man, I just think having propperly updated Combo Trials (the first thing people will try out), makes the learning curve easier, rather than having to re-wire the muscle memory and solve the puzzle of "why this combo aint working?". If Strive did not have a text on the top saying Ver1.07 I would had never guessed why it worked on trial, but not on the lab/match. I can understand playing previous versions of the characters can be more fun for those who love to just do trials; but like stated in the video, new players want/need at least something bare basic that works to start with. I spend like 3-5 hours in missions, training and a bit of labbing, before even getting into my placement matches.

_And now... the end is near..._

I wish retrying and doing them for score was faster. The countdown and "Failed~" really breaks my flow.

its quite a low hanging fruit

I have no clue about playing fighting games. Because of THIIIIIIIIIIS. Everything is about making some massive combo to make monkey brain activate and make happy brain juice, but what would REALLY help is HOW TO OPEN THE FUCKING GUY UP FOR THEM. Teach me how to open a guy up in the corner, how to knock them down, how to meaty or okizeme or set up. No, I don't care how to do an air combo to make me look good to practice all day just to do it once. I need to actually learn about fighting game concepts. I need to learn how to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME AGAINST SOMEONE AND NOT A TRAINING DUMMY.

@@SirthOsiris Mortal Kombat and Injustice do that to some degrees of success (especially IJ interns of the zoning lol)

Unist and Type Lumina have in depth tutorials that teach theory, and even before that VF4 had some great tutorial content, but an actual trial mode isn't a feasible solution for a most games. Pressure and mixups can vary wildly from matchup to matchup, in some cases your character might be better off running away or building meter after a knockdown. And pressure depends on your opponents specific tendencies. Learning a dozen frame trap setups isn't going to help you if your opponent always reversals. As counterintuitive as it sounds I feel like this kind of mode would do more harm than good. It would be like a trial mode for RPS. Conditioning new players to use specific options is only going hurt them in the long run.

@@hijster479 I completely disagree with this. Just like there are BnB combos that work on everyone, there are also BnB pressure strings that work in every matchup, and I think teaching beginner players the basics of how to open people up would be a huge game-changer. Just teaching them to use their overheads and grabs, to frametrap if they think their opponent will mash, to end their pressure on safe-on-block moves and to watch out for DPs, in a fun hands-on way like what combo trials do, would do wonders for the learning process. Besides, as someone who was a complete beginner not long ago, I actually find that the lack of pressure tutorials conditions players to use far worse options than if they did exist, I used to do nothing but spam my unsafe optimal combo starter and then have no idea what to do if it got blocked, which I would never have done if the game taught me pressure properly. Of course this isn't a solution that would work for every game, but I think that more rushdown-oriented games like guilty gear, where pressure is super important, would benefit from them enormously and would make the games much more approachable.

To be fair combo trials are more about the challenge than as a pure teaching tool, but I completely agree that fighting games need to teach you this stuff.

And since I'm in a rambling mood. A bit of a shower thought: There's Mokujin, right? Imagine squishing every single character in every fighting game into his wooden head. You'd still recognize any number of particular characters by - their movement, by their neutrals, specials. Then you can do combos off of that. But - there's only so many ways to do pressure in a corner. Fairly, that is. Where I'm heading? Potemkin is different from Zangief, from Beowulf, idk. Even if they occupy the same space in their respective games. Shoto's are still their distinct selves. Possibilities are endless. And combo, If you strip it down to the core - it's more or less a big damage and an execution. (with variety of options to do) There's still, a finite number of potential combos.

I'm also a variety gamer too but, I have simply built up muscle memory for combos and, as for characters from different games they can simply share a similar gameplan. It's even possible to win on fundamentals especially Tekken where I've seen a number of times good players can lose to good movement. Just my thoughts as someone that's not good fighting games yet and is still growing. Though as per usual I'm totally wrong about trying to understand...