we all know this isnt real their just actors and the house in real life isnt up for sale LOLL

Yes 🥺. Poor Liam.

@@joeyweston9001 almost like that's the point of it being a tv show

@@user-uk8sx4ll9j lol exactly

Tammy will never allow liam into her house

exactly people saying it’s just a show but this happened in real life somewhere. being selfish isn’t ok

@Kyla Lambalot yeah! I think people either love or hate Fiona, but I think everyone agrees that that was really crappy to just abandon Liam. Like she left, didn't sign over guardianship to anyone, didn't give anyone instructions to watch him or anything. She literally abandoned her child. Like the responsibility of the other siblings fell on her, but she CHOSE to take care of Liam, just to abandon him like Monica did to the rest of them

Lip is the one responsible for him mostly, he's the oldest sibling there and took over Fiona's place. Im glad he finally realized but it took Debbie telling him

If this was real life or if Fiona stayed on until the final season she would of taken Liam with her.

@Kyla Lambalot Yeah, but she became their legal guardian to keep them safe and out of the system. People keep saying it was a choice, but what other choice did she have? Debbie was literally placed in a child sweatshop foster home. By the time that Fiona left, she had spent the last few decades raising them. I don't get why it was such a big deal to expect the other four adult/soon-to-be adult siblings to take over at that point.

and selling the house seems like a horrible decision for them and just added in for plot reasons.... like Lip turned down a free house to stay with his family and then decides to sell the house and split everyone up? so inconsistent

@@moodyangel5 I think it’s a great decision. The house that Lip and Tami were offered in the previous season was in another state. He still wanted to be near his family which is why they got that mini RV. That didn’t work out so they got a house. Now they’re losing the house. If they sell the house, each character will have their own space and privacy. This is also **huge** for character development considering they’ve been living in that house their whole entire lives. Also, think you forgot that Lip says to Debbie that every week they will have a family dinner at Lips house which means they’re still be together. This is could also be great for the series finale since that’s *the* Ghallagher house. The house we and the characters have been with since the beginning of the series. I feel like them selling it also symbolizes change. Them changing and growing as people. And that each character has their own lives now. It doesn’t always involves their siblings or Frank. Ian and Mickey have each other. Carl has his work. Lip has Tami and Fred. Debbie has Franny. And Liam is the exception to that because he still needs them. But all in all, it’s time for them to go their separate ways. May seem bad to you, but I know a lot of other people agree with me in saying it’s a good thing and I’m glad it’s happening. Edit: spelling errors lol

@@mimimarie44 the beautiful thing about opinions, we can have different ones! lol (especially over something low-stakes like a TV show)

@@moodyangel5 I never said you couldn’t have your own opinion 😐

@@mimimarie44 Okay, you tagged me and wrote a long explanation on why you think Im wrong/ trying to convince me your opinion is right, SO, seemed you didn't respect my opinion. BYE!

Shit I would be to tbh 😂

yes it made me so happy to see one of his siblings to really interact with him. because lately they’ve been treating him like a background character & that’s lowk f*cked up.

Periodt

Little Guy is a fantastic actor too.

He is a fantastic actor & he does deserve everything. Liam ftw

Really? Where else was he supposed to go? With Fiona gone I would think Lip is his guardian anyway. It should have been assumed that he was living with him

How about how Fiona has guardianship of him.. the story lines sometimes are blurry.

@@kikilopez215 it always bothered me that she fought for guardianship over him and then just left. Even when she was with Sean it didnt seem like she had intent on taking him with her.

@@friesxnxcoke that isn’t really a storyline or character thing, that’s just a way to accommodate an actor leaving the show. But if we were to make it a character thing, Lip was acting holier than though and like he ran shit, so she left and gave them the opportunity to do so. Too bad he fell in love with a middle class chick who’s trying to sell their family home

hes not a " supposed" deadbeat , he is literally an alcoholic deadbeat. Just because he thought about liam for once that doesn't make him a great ftaher or deserving of any praise. If anything he just started doing his minimal job.

i think Carl actually cares about Liam a lot. i wanted Liam to live with him

Cause they were all thinking about themselves

I think Carl would have but Carl was himself not sure about where would he live

Lowkey I thought either carl would keep the house since he saved it from being repossessed or lip since he's in sum cases the responsible 1 plus he has a family and the house aint all that bad it's just like every other house u fix it up yk?

exaxtly what i was thinking. when liam was a baby the whole family had eachother and they all lived together. carl and debbie were childs & ian and lip were in high school, fiona was still in her 20's and trying to support her family. now everyone's grown up and has things to do. poor liam never really got the experience that they had.

Liam should’ve went with Fiona

Only probably Carl was there for him at times Lip should have taken care of him but he got his own life and responsibilities too so he missed him out

@@yydd4954yeah carl fs

Actually....out of all the kids, Frank gave Liam the most fatherly, in a Frank way, attention and guidance.

foreshadowing lol

I'm only on ep 7 I think, excited to see how they finish it

Debbie was correct tho

I can understand where Debbie is coming from

Lip is annoying

Same

Exactly ! What did Lip plan for Liam when he decided that want to sell the house ? That Liam would just figure things out on this own ? And no one else in the family considered taking Liam in too, almost like he is forgotten in the family

Not touching at all. It's wild that Lip clearly gave zero thought to what would happen to Liam. They spent a whole episode shitting on Fiona for being bossy and messy, but she worked her ass off to take care of them, while Lip can't even get his shit together enough to consider where his baby brother would live.

@@lexi219 Exactly. I remember how when Liam got hurt in season 4, it almost ruined the entire family and relationship between Lip and Fiona. Fast-forward to today and Lip practically forgot Liam existed... Those siblings have all been through so much but I've never felt as sorry for any of them as Liam because he's basically been entirely alone in this situation.

Well in fairness did Fiona have any plans for Liam when she walked out on him

YES oh my god no one pays any attention to Liam and it’s been bothering me for the past few episodes. I agree, they should have immediately established that of course Liam was gonna live with one of them if they sold. Literally Frank is the one showing the most interest in Liam’s life and it’s so sad, like I know everyone has their own lives, but none of the people who are supposed to take care of him are doing a good job.

I don’t think none of them ever forgot about Liam. Really when you think about it, Liam was a very independent child. He was the youngest, intelligent and probably wouldn’t be so fucked up by upbringing like they were. When he was a baby Liam was always looked after, well loved and protected. That’s why Fiona was haunted by what happened to him with the coke. He was always special to all of them. I think because they were all older with real adult problems, that’s what made Liam be an afterthought, but not intentionally.

But when Lip was Liam's age he still had Fiona, so he didn't have to take care of himself alone (I think)

@@gemamba602 Even with Fiona, Lip was one of the older kids and he had to learn to be self-servient. Meanwhile, Liam has always had everyone, not just Fiona, making sure he has what he needs.

@tired &hungry I can agree that Lip has a lot on his plate, but I disagree that you can compare older season Lip to current Lip. The same Lip who would have dropped out of school for Liam would punch current Lip in the face for the shit his doing. It took Debbie reminding him that not all his sibling at adults for him to run over and talk to Liam

Lip is a piece of sh!*

@tired &hungry frrrrrr

@@paulmchugh4776 no

​@@flamingkitten1lip's life changed and the shoemakers portrayed very well how people develop Lip had his own life too,his own kid and partner. I agree he was wrong in forgetting liam and had responsibility to take care of him which he did accept himself too.

She will have an issue, and rightfully so, because once again lip made a major life decision without consulting her. And while obviously lip should be responsible for Liam taking on another child on top of their baby for the next 7 years is not gonna be a walk in the park

@@KittyKatTube agreed but she shouldn’t have an issue because like i said .. family is family . she can have an issue but she can’t tell him no & lip is to take care of liam not tami , lip has done it before & liam is growing , he’s doing things on his own .

I don’t know why she’s going to have an issue first of all because that’s his little brother and if they sell the house he’s going to be on the street so she better not even start anything that’s number one

@@KittyKatTube Honestly she shouldn’t have an issue that’s his little brother and he’s worried that he’s going to be homeless Liam isn’t like the other Gallaghers he’s not crazy he’s not in insane he’s perfectly stable and he’s only 10 so there’s no reason or no excuse why they wouldn’t take him in

@@ansutoure5583 agreed lol .. but yk tami .

it’s because the previous liam actors were too young/couldn’t act that well, so he didn’t really have his own storyline.

@@kaiya4713 I wonder why the people in charge didn’t find someone who could act or just aged him up with the other characters?? I haven’t been watching this continuously but it feels like Liam had no story, no lines and no point other than being the youngest sibling and just being there. Like we see everyone growing up including Debbie but Liam stayed the same

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@@torakunoichi i agree :( im glad they're acknowledging him now as a full blown character but it has taken a long time

@@kaiya4713 a bit too late if you ask me, like everyone’s got their own thing going on and he doesn’t really fit with any of it

the writers have pissed me off since season 7

For me even longer, but it’s hard to know when really lost their touch

I think the whole point of every characters progression is the realization their lifestyle isn't anything to brag about while Frank is the only notable one. They all actively seek change and I think them selling the home and moving on is a great way to end the series. Hopefully it ends with them all being better off than living in the dump

no it wouldn’t lol

That's part of the problem though, you can't really fight gentrification and they've shown them trying but ultimately failing every season years now. Besides, frank was the one who had the most pride in it because of his messy status. Sure, they all had a penchant for hating the middle or upper class stuff and people they couldn't have or be, and the snobbery especially. But you can see that the moment each kid including Fiona got to experience better things they started to expect or fight for more. Even Mickey who's more rugged than them understands its failings and trappings

Judging by the end of each episode clip or teaser clip fiona will make a return and will likely be more of a drunk than season 10

@@joshbot9010 what makes u think that

Fiona and Steve please

Sucks how Kev and V have essentially become a backstory. They use to be so close to the Gallaghers.

@@hellivioze3648 they lost connection because people stopped drinking. Their story lines became based at the Alibi. Apart from Franks, Mickey's story was the only one that played out much at the bar.

yah sure u did lol

@@joeyweston9001 i did😭 when lip and liam was talking not debbie and lip arguing

totally agree with you about Fiona there. As for the rest not caring about Liam, you have to acknowledge how they grew up. When Fiona was his age, she was looking after her siblings. When Debbie and Carl were his age, they were financially supporting the household.

True. But they were all looking out for Debby and Carl. They worked and had grown up responsibilities , but the older kids still made an effort to parent them as much as possible. They literally forget Liam exists half the time.

But he never had a talk with her

@@chonkthecatx6396 that’s what made it sad, he never had a talk with her and basically lied to liam and what if it doesn’t work out.

@@hobi143 ohh sorry, I get what you mean

I feel like Debbie always had a more positive attitude about all that than everyone else.

It was bad but they were together. There was alot of good too.

The characters are so real and generally behave in a real way. There is no (or very little) sugar coated fantasy. I think that is why Shameless is such an addiction. I am glad that the show and hindsight has enabled you to reframe your past.

Her and Frank share custody of the kids

Only of liam all of the are legal adults

They grown she has legal custody of liam

They’re all grown now expect Liam. He’s the only person she still has custody of

@@whosaprettykitty5076 shitty too. when she took responsibility for all of them the judge said. “you have a 2 year old brother that means 16 more years until he’s an adult”. she should of took liam or something. she was suppose to take care of him bc she agreed to be legal guardian. i dont think the writers were thinking when they had her leave lmfao

I think their time in jail makes it harder. Also, they don't have a place yet. I know plenty of people who secretly lived with someone as kids, but if they want it to be legal Lip is a better option. Although overall I wanted it to be Kevin and V.

She must have assumed that was a temporary thing.

That's what I'm saying

Writers got amnesia

But the thing is, leaving was one of the best interest because she was spiraling down from not caring about herself the whole time. Yes it was extremely irresponsible to leave liam like this but she couldn't take him either since she wasnt going to be visiting often or near the family

@@mavanachhakchhuak8198 Then why not transfer guardianship. She could've given him to kev and V or even filed for half custody with lip. There's so much fiona could have done but didn't.

Emmy was leaving the show, not the actor who was playing Liam. He wanted to be in the show. That's why Fiona left him with his siblings.

Have you ever thought of Lip was lying to him in this scene? Because it is clear as day he was.

i don’t really like who lip has become. he had so so so much potential and dropped out only to get tami pregnant and have a baby and work in a shop. no more school. no nice GOOD paying jobs. NOTHING. that irritated me so much. he could of gone so far in life with how smart he was. probably could of been fucking rich. own his own engineering company or something. but he never lived up to his potential.

@@cloroxbleach8661 he got kicked out of college long before Tami. He slept with this hot Prof he was clearly in love with and that Amanda chick who had feelings for him when he thought they just had a friends with benefits thing going leaked a topless photo of the prof out of pure jealousy which got the prof suspended or something and she stopped talking to Lip. Then Lip got drunk and cussed Prof Yuens in his class out of frustration with his relationship troubles and smashed his car then Yuens bailed him out of jail. Then he broke into the hot prof's house drunk but was so hammered like Frank he didn't realize where he was or what he was doing she told him he had to leave and get help and never called the cops on him. Then he joined AA and met Brad who is Tami's brother in law and they later hooked up and he got her pregnant this leads to the present. Yuens also went to jail for another DUI and died in prison and I think Lip named his own kid Fred after Yuens which i think was his first or middle name.

Ian and Mickey were happy to move to a new place. Carl fixed up the basement for himself. Debbie in 1 room, lip and Tami in another, Liam in the 3rd bedroom and I'm pretty sure that they could have turned the attic into a bedroom for Franny and lips kid. Then by the time Franny needed a room of her own Carl would probably have moved out so she could have the basement. Also, Carl's cop partner suggested turning the Alibi into a cop bar so maybe Carl could have moved into the flat upstairs with Ian and Mickey running it. Problem solved

Mmmmm yeah brotherlove...

I’d honestly be surprised if she did.

There is no reason for her to show up in a TV show which is gonna end like in a 3 next episodes. She may ask for a shittone of money for that but I bet showrunners will reject her.

@@SenoritasEverywhere she actually wanted to appear in the finale, but life happened

@@brainanchorstudios879 I know bud